Which will be superior overall?
Which will be superior overall?
Christopher Davis
Colton Long
Valkyrie
Landon Torres
Valkyrie
Oliver Hernandez
The valkyrie weighs 600 lbs less and has about 110 more HP whilst generating 4000 lbs of downforce with a top speed of 250 so there isn't really going to be a contest.
Joshua James
the one that looks like a ford gt clone.
oh that's both....
the top one I guess
Camden Parker
How many layers of bait are you GT posters up to?
Anthony Thomas
Absolute pleb tier taste
Justin Ross
like 0 my dude
Andrew Torres
Fucking retard
Austin Richardson
I did say overall, not specifying performance, so it is somewhat a matter of taste.
Aesthetics and comfort are important too.
Luke Hall
>comfort is important on 1000+ track only vehicles
How many digits is your IQ?
Jacob Moore
>1000+ hp
Aaron Phillips
about as many digits as there are comfy track only vehicles
Adam Thompson
Kayden Powell
Are you telling me the Ford GT looks like THAT?
Some people even in this context do weigh practicality more than raw performance.
Of course those people wouldn't buy one since they are already retarded.
Christopher Ross
>not having a racing recliner
Gavin Stewart
Mercedes
Joshua Robinson
>muh F1 engine
>muh AWD traction and low speed acceleration
>muh space
>muh thermal efficiency and fuel economy
On a track it will lose it's full potential pretty quickly, and then be exposed for only having a 750ish hp ICE.
Not to mention it being a good deal heavier and lacking downforce.
It also looks worse.
Brody Myers
Valkyrie.
The Mercedes looks ancient in comparison
Justin Hall
10k+ RPM 6.5L V12.
Do I need to say more? You will hear the thing in the next postcode.
Gavin Perry
>It also looks worse.
Everything you just said is true but that, I'm biased towards Mercedes so I can concede everything.
Also he said overall so I factored in Comfort, Fuel Economy and styling.
Eli Cooper
Fair enough.
I guess looks are pretty divisive on these, I think the Project One is too conservative personally without being stylish.
Matthew Green
FUCK SHOOT IT
IT'S GONNA KILL YOU
Adam Cook
CSL GTR was great.
It just looked like you gave a regular Merc some super steroids
Ayden Gutierrez
based ford shitposter kek
Jace Jackson
>Sobiet what's going on :DDD
>Did the Chick say yes? :DDDD
Based Chad V8 2006 GT breddy guuud :DDDDD
Kevin Flores
Evan Gutierrez
But the CSL GTR is a BMW.
Do I not follow?
Robert Hughes
>like maybe marginally superior to GM
>shat on by all major European makes
Funny how you run away whenever the slightest mention of Porsche is made.
>inb4 m-muh GTE
BoP it faggot.
Juan Scott
Shant reply further as you have no response to this.
Zachary Roberts
Soviet loves him some GT2 RS
>pepper your angus he's going in dry
Ayden Perry
CLK GTR sorry am drunk
Andrew Smith
sweet fuel efficient wheel covers, just like my hybrid!
Jose Bailey
Top with bottom's wheels.
Jonathan Lee
>mah small displacement ecooo-boootht
>good for the environment, says eco on it and has a leaf
>2.7L engine in a truck to appease the EPA isn't a total fucking joke
>veesix $400k safespace-sales-only car isn't a total joke at all
Elijah Price
rage at this image
Kayden Miller
no, she fucking ghosted me, still want to dick her tho
sup fonzie
I like poo-rsche, only their engines and the boxster spyder tho
Ethan Murphy
>Fugging biiitch missing out :DDD
>Was so glose to basedposter kids :DDDD
Zachary Jenkins
I really miss GT1.
Jacob Hughes
At least pick the better car.
Jacob Scott
Literally who cares
They are just marketing projects
Xavier Thompson
>he does not like the incumbent fastest road legal production cars ever around a circuit
The Valkyrie is the next McLaren F1, and the project is helping also creating 2 other mid-engined cars for AM.
Sure making these halo cars for most people is just marketing of how good we are and stuff like that, but hypercars are too impressive for me to not care about.
Luis Jackson
It’s helping to create ONE mid engined car for AM. One of them will be a continuation of the red bull collab and essentially be a smaller toned down version of the project one, while one is already in production and will be a 488 competitor
Jaxon Green
*valkyrie
Jaxson Kelly
Surely Merc will make a track version too.
Or are they already too salty about getting destroyed by britbongs again?
Isaac Roberts
Nope.
autoblog.com
They are making a middle model which will probably be a tad more expensive than a Senna.
Jordan Campbell
blog.caranddriver.com
>Newey casually let slip that it could well end up bettering the extraordinary claimed figures. “The downforce we’re quoting is obviously early days,” he said. “We’re very early in the evolution of this car; the model you see now is effectively the ideas that stand behind it as a sketch given over to Marek’s team to interpret. It will of course change quite a lot from that.”
>I am growing stronger
Henry Young
holy fuck, that's the production car?
looks insane
Adrian Ward
95% ready.
Luke Hughes
i dont like slow overpriced fords or hypercars with wheel covers. what the fuck did that have to do with my post?
Christian Perez
Many high performance cars are moving to wheel covers for less drag.
I don't mind the look, as long as it makes it go faster.
Jacob Nelson
i am well aware of this and i do not care
>muh passion
why does eking out a %2 better drag coefficient or slightly better fuel efficiency or whatever matter if it looks retarded and youd never want to be seen in the damn thing?
James Walker
I dunno, the main thing with cars like this is you do not want to be seen getting in or out of it due to that looking retarded.
The wheel covers on the regular Valkyrie are optional by the way.
Luke Russell
A Tesla Roadster would smoke both of these dick-waiving mobiles. ;^)
Dylan Watson
Because super/hyper cars are for performance, not looks/muh feels.
There's a reason GT-Rs are auto only, the GT comes with a V6, Veyron has a cheap interior, and the LaFerrari is a hybrid.
Noah Morgan
Too bad that the Rimac C_2 is likely the third car of this holy trinity, then.
You obviously know that corners are more important in this case.
Thomas Evans
Time for interiors.
Cooper Murphy
And the other.
Julian Morales
That merc kind of looks like the old clks, does it have v12?
James Brooks
1.6L V6T
Well, it is a detuned F1 engine going over 10k rpm, so not all is lost.
Of course I would prefer a variant of the V12's they give to Pagani.
So I'll take a CLK-GTR.
Zachary Gray
You know, there is a system used to objectively determine how good a car is.
Blake Robinson
I don't know. The one made by the company that has decades of expertise in racing, or the one made by the company that has never broken any kind of notable record whatsoever. Tough choice.
The AMG will shit on the Valkyrie's lap times, and that's on top of being a much smoother looking car that can actually be driven on the road in a reasonable manner.
Ian Campbell
They proobably will, in a few years.
And unlike Brits and Italians, Germans will wait patiently and show what's what when the car is released on the track.
Adrian Ramirez
Mercedes haven't made a good car in 2 decades so Valkyrie
James Flores
>Mercedes haven't made a good car in 2 decades so Valkyrie
And Aston Martin has? All they do is make nice looking cars that are slow as shit on a track. Also obvious you haven't driven a recent AMG.
Charles Baker
>what's what
an unreliable shitheap that fades it's breaks on track and catches fire when on idle designed by czechs and built by turks?
Evan Hill
at least they made a good looking car
there has never been an AMG that was driveable
Nathaniel Carter
Let's ignore the fact that they have Adrian Newey, who has been dominating the F1 world with his car designs, and let's also forget
>pic related
Connor Johnson
*this triggers the turk*
Zachary Parker
That car looks so smol
Anthony Ward
The Valkyrie is mainly designed by Adrian Newey, and elements of his F1 team.
All AM has done is some non aero affecting aesthetic choices and the interior, fluff like that.
Look at the stats, the Valkyrie makes slightly more power, is 300kg lighter and makes at least 75% more downforce.
I doubt AMG has enough trickery to match that.
Aston Martin is actually pretty good at building race cars with Prodrive, and their AMR lineup is pretty unique out of current manufacturers outside of maybe Ferrari.
The Project One is the better DD with the more advanced powertrain, but the Valkyrie is the faster race car.
Mason Rivera
I think it is 39 inches high.
Robert Williams
The Valkyrie, how is this even a question?
David Martinez
The valkyrie is light as fuck and has a NA V12. Unlike most marketing projects this one is actually exciting.
David Sullivan
>There's a reason GT-Rs are auto only, the GT comes with a V6, Veyron has a cheap interior, and the LaFerrari is a hybrid.
I legitimately do not understand what you're getting at here.
Nathaniel Harris
The Project One is a halo car using F1 tech, similar to the Ferrari F50.
The Valkyrie is the desired road car of the best F1 designer of the time, with a V12, exactly like the McLaren F1.
The Project One is the bigger marketing project, the Valkyrie is done by AM as an OEM basically.
Aiden Baker
n-n-n-notice me senpai
Oliver Hill
They look like a couple of Silencerz rejects
Dominic Robinson
cgi rendering
Charles Mitchell
lol
Cooper Stewart
Jacob Butler
superlitecars.com
>Drive: LMP-inspired, single-seat, center position
>Overall Length: 170"
>Width: 74"
>Height: 40"
>Wheelbase: 105"
>Wheels: 18" x 9.5" front, 18" x 12" rear (aluminum alloy)
>Tires: Hoosier A7 or R7 recommended
>Brakes: StopTech ST6 (F) and ST4 (R)
>Weight: 1,800 lbs, in spec racer trim
>Weight Distribution: 48% front, 52% rear
>Ground Clearance: 2"
Jack Jackson
Logan Russell
aerodynamics sim
Oliver Howard
Robert Price
top one was clearly designed by people who know nothing about aerodynamics, bottom one wont look like that when it comes out
Robert Thomas
is this badboy gonna be road legal?
if you got ran over by that it would shred you up and spit you out the diffuser, i cant imagine this being allowed on a road
Cameron Bennett
that is one of the ugliest things i've ever seen.
it's the nissan juke of hypercars.
Cameron Jackson
yeah cause the drive axle on a druck wouldnt shred someone?
im offended you even posted that
Carter Fisher
>giving even half of a single fuck how it looks when it weighs as much as an early 90s honda civic and has a naturally aspirated v12
Gabriel Myers
oh i think its gonna be the better car. anything with a V12 is automatically a better can than its competitors.
but it's fucking atrocious looking.
Chase Sanders
The bottom one is a 95% final model, only changes will be aero refinements and engine cooling plus interior trim.
Yes.
Adam Wilson
>uses an LS3
>restricted to 380hp
Waste of space, otherwise pretty cool, but not road legal unlike the two main cars in the thread.
Jason Kelly
Also the amount of freedom you have with a single seat compared to two seats is massive.
Alexander Walker
what the actual fuck is that supposed to show?
That the rear wing can barely touch the downwash from the bodywork?
That the entire top surface of the car is one big low pressuze zone and will generate a fuckload of lift?
That the diffuser clearly isn't doing shit?
That there's a fuckhuge low pressure zone inboard the front pontoons?
Or that whoever ran that sim fucked up so many settings in both the simulation and display (entire car is dark blue, which means something's mapped to it, but it's been mapped so badly all the values are clamped off the end of the scale).
I think this image gave me cancer
Leo Lee
The baseline stats for reference.
Joshua Flores
*cough*
John Wood
>Or are they already too salty about getting destroyed by britbongs again?
come again?
Oliver Green
two world wars happened
Bentley Phillips
I guess you could look at this from a few angles.
Firstly, the Mercedes F1 team is the dominant team right now, but every key person in the terms of car development, along with the bases used to make and design them are British.
The F1 engine used in the Project One is a British engine, the chassis however has been developed by AMG back in Germany, along with the more extensive hybrid setup they are not capable of matching the chassis of the Valkyrie, which is a fully British car.
Also there were two world wars, that always hurts them.
In this case Daimler wanted a halo car which trumped all others, and the Valkyrie has completely destroyed them when it comes to going fast in a circle.
No matter which way you look at it, Germany loses.