/smtg/ - 真・女神転生/Shin Megami Tensei General

everyone loves strength through unity

Is this guy ever coming back?

It's like a solid 30% chance it'll be good. Guess we'll hear impressions when people try it at TGS.

>p5hero

You got the right idea.

It'll be a gacha game and the first UR will be yukata Jack.

Thanks, i swear neutralfags are getting stupider every day

Why did they scrap that idea anyways

I bet neutralfags think that neutral ending in SJ is totally happy and great

>none of my party members can make super pixie
Reeeeeeeeeeeee

There is no such thing as happy end.

One man's happy end is another man's bad end.

Better than the law or chaos endings.

because there are many Christians who played SMT

>humanity is left to degenerate and kill the planet more
it doesn't sound like it's better than Zelenin's Greatest Hits, World of STR and fucking Alex through the eternity

Which game has your favorite ost?
and why is it SMT IV

it's her birthday
say something nice to her

>Tips and tricks pastebin contains links to KMT, SMT1 and SMT2 ROMs
>Other downloads pastebin contains links to SMT1 and SMT2 ROMs but no KMT rom, making the KMT rom hard to find
Why? I thought we were a lawful general.

IV >= DDS > SMT1 > Everything else

Synth music is popular because of fascism

>DDS
my man.

>finish DDS1
>absolutely love Hunting
>start DDS2
>this battle music

It's not bad but I could literally listen to Hunting for another 3 games.

Ave Maria.

did the guy who do this also do the art for giten?

I like IV's the most because it does a terrific job at creating the setting of Tokyo.

MTII (Famicom) and DeSu 1. Reminder that DDS's OST is shit just like the rest of the game.

DDS > Nocturne > IV for me

hopefully not

>that fucking heartbeat intro for MTII
SMT1 kinda reprised it but it's not as good

my nigga , hunting is one of the best themes in all of smt

IV or DDS

SMT4 with Apoc ost beats them all, but MT2 is nice, SMT1 has nice ost but small number of tracks

i disagree with your stance on DDS but MT and MT2 are masterpieces
>infini
>bien
>omega
>ex convict
muh dick

almost every track in MT2 is a masterpiece, i don't know how masuko did it

>That sinister theme that plays in the famicom version when Lucifer asks you to join him in taking down YHVH
youtube.com/watch?v=YmpmyFfp-2Y

Good taste.

it also plays during the pretty neat cutscene you get after beating Devil Busters

it's some of the best atmosphere i've seen in a famicom game

also
>that fucking encounter theme as you talk down demons and even the heroine

Rotting in hell where chaosfags belong.

The second theme is much better though.

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Yet you still bow to me.

>expecting /smtg/ to have the strength to survive in a world of strength
We're few, and far between. It's not their fault they'd never make it.

Imagine if they made a modern SMT set on the internet where the Law rep is a /pol/ alt righter, the Chaos rep is a tumblr/twitter SJW and the Neutral rep is "I just want to play videogames" stick man.

>imagine if japs cared about the faggot western world

Imagine SMT game set in the /smtg/

Whos the protag then

If anything, Law would be tumblr and chaos would be pol.

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>tumblr being law
A bunch of fuckin' idiots all gathered in once place thinking they're right, and better than everyone else, and want to police everyone.
Yeah, it lines up a lot better than I thought it would.

Me :)

>Law is /pol/
>Chaos is /b/
>Neutral is /a/
I'd play it

>Chaos
>/pol/
/pol/ would hate chaos
>Law
>tumblr
Law would purge most of tumblr

>A bunch of fuckin' idiots all gathered in once place thinking they're right, and better than everyone else, and want to police everyone.
So every single community/site on the internet is Law?

Then explain Unless you want them to be Dark Law or something.

Nah.

They are Dark Law, SJW's are dark law too.
But user, the law routes that we play punish dark law

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>/pol/ would hate chaos

No they wouldn't. Chaos' like core doctrine is identified to be social darwinism in IV. Explicit call for the strong and superior to subjugate everyone else / kill them / or at best make them go away to stay out of their way. There's no actual rule in chaos against the strong forming into groups. Lucifer Is an actual king who clearly enforces power in a group dynamic. There's tons of kings associated with chaos. And gotou is an outright nationalist.

Besides. Have you never seen the anarcho capitalist / libertarian "subtle" use of thier ideology to more or less be crypto fascism, since they think it will form into a meritocracy that forces brown people to leave? Chaos more or less is pol.

>Law would purge most of tumblr

Yes, but we have two options of how to sort them and this is the closer one.

Is Yamato the king of /pol/?

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pol is cnrservative as hell dude, besides law isn't against the idea of a meritocracy, it's against the idea of endless greed. But i see what you're talking about

You're late

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He really would be

Also just to add to this, /pol/ hates degeneracy and foreign ideas, so it's a weird place between law and chaos

>le bad analogies with things I dislike as fascism/nazism
It's like I'm on gamefaqs

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Conservative people don't usually really praise a meme god "ironically".

Although /pol/ is an ideological mess.

Close, but yamato has too much self control, and not enough victim complex. Normally chaos is seen as the underdog, and law is seen as the one associated with being calm. desu 2 took the normal alignments and inverted it, making the chaos analogue be the one in charge, and the law analogue be the angry one. Pol no doubt wants to be seen as yamato, but they are more like regular chaos angrily ranting about how they are oppressed and punching shit.

>Dx2 Shin Megami Tensei: Liberation
>Liberation.
I have figured it out.
It's going to be a crossover with Mega Man Battle Network.

What the fuck does Dx2 even mean

digital devil, maybe? thats my bad guess

I feel like both /pol/ and tumblr could fit both law and chaos.

Last thread became so shitty I had to leave for a while.

Stupid Law and Stupid Chaos?

/pol/ does everything ironically, like /b/, as soon as you take anything seriously in one of those boards you lose. But if you check /pol/ once in a while you'll see a christian thread pop up where they act like actual chirstians plus a bit of extra autism ofc

fucking yamato hotspur

but which alignment tumblr would be?

>pol is cnrservative as hell dude,

None of the alignments are really conservative per say. However, conservatism is often associated (much to the denial of religious conservatives) with particular national identity and the right to preserve your own ways against foreign forces in a particularist way. Which leans chaos. Chaos is not just about individuals, but groups preserving group identity from the (((globalist))) forces that are trying to universalize everything.

> besides law isn't against the idea of a meritocracy, it's against the idea of endless greed

Nobody is against the idea of people being in whatever roles they are actually the most suited to perform. But chaos thinks that the strong should actively get the right to do what they want, and ignore everyone else, and its those people's fault for not being strong / or even that its actively good to wipe them out. That's nazi leaning ideology. Law's meritocracy is that if you are extremely skilled, you "get" a chance to be the messiah, who there's a good chance will end up sacrificing themself. Most people in actual law worlds are implied to have a degree of relative equality with eachother. You aren't really treated much better for being more skilled.

Dark law or light chaos, you decide

Bonds because of muh diversity maybe?

youtube.com/watch?v=hdlA6UifSo8
Will Deep Journey redeem Vending Machine

Dark law or dark neutral. Their ideology would resemble dark law, but how they act is chaotic enough that it might push them to neutral. They ant everyone else to act law, but believe that this is for more chaotic reasons.

I don't get honey select.

>None of the alignments are really conservative per say
And that's what fundumentally wrong with your post, in SMT IV a lot of law is protecting the status quo, law is really into leaving things as is if they're not broken, and defending your country against foreign forces is more law than chaos

>can't make YHVH smirk
I don't get it either

No. Read the info next time.

No, you just got confused about what was actually going on in IV. IV wanted to be based very subtly on hindu concepts of the polarity between preservation and change that vishnu and shiva represent. So they use language early in the game that reflects that. But the actual law ending has nothing to do with leaving things the same. Like in every other game, it involves heavily changing things. The idea of it being about preservation is mostly -after- the system is set up. But they stretched to try to crowbar the theme earlier into the game. Its not analogous to conservatism in the actual endings, so much as a hegelian end of history where once the ideal state is reached, certain parts of it will never need to change again. Trying to crowbar conservatism onto it when most of the law endings are closer to socialism was unique to IV, didn't even reflect the ending very well, and meant something much different than you are trying to get out of it. Its not really analogous to the ideology of conservatives as defined in the west. More like gradualists. Emphasizing patience and long term thinking over impulsive action.

>and defending your country against foreign forces is more law than chaos

Law is like, explicitly globalist. The idea of distinct countries is something its clearly against. If you look at the outfits of some law units early in the series they even have blatant eye of providences on them, and are referred to as the conspiracy. The NWO conspiracy is about undermining the sovereignty of distinct countries to usher in a one world government. Protecting your country for the sake of your country's interests is chaos. Before they were even represented with religions, the first arc of SMTI is a chaos figure trying to protect national interests versus law globalist figures trying to establish a foreign system as part of a universal globalist one.

not just fascism. any form of rigid hierarchy/chain of command and collectivist "people's" ideology. fascism has both. communism has both. religions have both. any form of nationalism has both.

so it's only natural why so many people are in various types of order-minded states, whether it's light order or dark order.

>Still no SMT game where the other heroes shift alignment in response to your decisions
>Can't act out an extreme version of one alignment to turn people off of it (ie hey you like chaos?? me too my dude check out these slaves I got)
>can't falseflag every other alignment so people all go neutral
>can't kill them all once neutral so you can finally ascend to True Neutral

This reminds me, was there any alignment stuff in Imagine?