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Not to mention Trifa is a much better character than Kirei, who is Saturday morning cartoon tier for all but one route (Heaven's Feel).
Leo White
WagaHigh or PE?
Ryder Taylor
Best girl
Owen Peterson
>still no Higurashi
Nicholas Williams
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Matthew Campbell
Why did she do this?
Blake Cooper
Is that little miss lonesome game any good?
Jose Flores
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Asher Baker
This setting is beyond deciphering because the intellect required to understand such scene is beyond human reach. Attempting to analyze such complex image may only bring madness to the person who does so
Xavier Kelly
FSN is locked progression doofus, each route is 1/3 of the overall story they aren't separate. Kirei is definitely a better character than most of his ripoffs including Trifa.
Tyler Rodriguez
they are a bit shorter but super cute side stories.
Not H scene dumps. 2 per girl.
Jaxon Taylor
It's funny because the main character is a loner, depressed, lazy piece of shit with social anxiety and no friends. But it's an otomege still and the dudes suck, one is a masochist fuckboy and the other is an asshole tsundere.
Carson Cooper
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Sebastian Wood
>one is a masochist fuckboy and the other is an asshole tsundere.
Yup, that's an otome alright
Kayden Anderson
Not really. Trifa's development across the whole VN is much more complex and in deep than Kirei, who can be summed in a single phrase (guy who can't fight satisfaction in anything else other than murder and dispair), while the former is much more complex.
Sebastian Young
>fight find*
Christopher Diaz
>I'm a nazi but I'm actually trying to fuck up the bad guy's plans in secret 'cuz they killed all my kids but I'm not smart enough to actually think about it and realize that this will require me to murder a bunch more kids in the future
Jace Smith
Jesus, did conjueror have to do the tl as stiff and boring as he could?
Ian Roberts
>but super cute side stories
Basically trash nonsense
Nathaniel Mitchell
>Still spamming the same shit.
Ian Nelson
>Divine Vessel >Not Holy Grail Autism
Jordan Wright
>people loved the shit out of Psycho-Pass and makishima shogo for quoting philosophy and literature. >People hated Subahibi even though it did it better Why are you guys so hypocrite
Aaron Carter
Yeah.
Liam Russell
Psycho-Pass is shit.
John Hernandez
Just no. Kirei's character explores themes about having the capacity to do evil and choosing to do good, or the inverse. It's a timeless and intriguing exploration into humanity's ability to act in ways that contradict their natural impulses. His presence and thematic relevance runs so deep that a scene where he rationalizes giving birth to All The World's Evil really conveyed its message to the viewer with sound arguments from both sides which was stunning in a sense.
Trifa is a ripoff from an overall uninspired VN and nothing more.
Eli Collins
>actually reading subameme >tfw sukisuki never SUKISUKI WHEN MANKOGRABBER!
Michael Collins
What do you expect from people who watch anime?
Benjamin Ward
I want Yuki to be my Nee-san!
Dominic Jackson
Quotes and references don't make anything better on their own, it's how they're used.
Subahibi has given me an interest in the poetry of Emily Dickenson as well as Cyrano de Bergerac, though.
Also Psycho-Pass is terrible.
Juan Rogers
You missed the point about his inner conflict on whether his feelings for Theresia are true or not because his body is now Reinhard's and doesn't know if that comes from him or from his own self (which parallels Ren's insecurities when he finds out that he was created for the sake of wielding Marie's to her full potential) which is the most interesting part of his character, aside from the fact that his weakness made him desire and covet something powerful enough to not lose anything ever again without realizing this would make him walk a path of self deprecation for the rest of eternity, which isn't what those he sacrificed for want for him.
Not like I expected a Fatecuck to understand anything more than what is said at a surface level.
Dominic Flores
Story open about it, but i can believe about it after all shit they was put through together. Real purpose of course is stupid otaku market...
John Gomez
user, you're dangerously close to going full retard.
Ayden Moore
What Kirei has to bring to the table has nothing to do with his actual character, that what he wants Angry Manjew to show him.
Go back to MAL, Fai.
Jack Bell
Sounds retarded. Are you sure you aren't an autistic guy who only shits on Fate because is "le cool"?
Isaiah Campbell
Nobody is hating on Subahibi except one shitposter though.
Jason Williams
No, they develop really nicely. If you like moege, you should read it.
Chase Williams
Make that two. It's honestly overrated.
Justin Nelson
>barely any hype for Lovely x Cation
James Morales
Cry more Diescuck, none of that is as engaging and personal Kirei's wish to know whether a man who can only enjoy the suffering of others has a right to exist, fulfilling his role in a way that he has no choice to in order to reassure that he deserved to be born.
Trifa is fucking shit, a glorified knockoff masquerading as a unique creation. YOU are going full retard.
Connor Foster
People like Subahibi, but it does go downhill after Invention unless you like the characters.
Jason Howard
How low is your IQ percentage?
Juan Bennett
You're both going full retard, it's a fucking porn game.
Daniel Robinson
>cuck irae is better than fate
Brody Smith
When did you start to feel Subahibi was a great game? For me it was probably in Insects, when all the philosophy started to make sense and I noticed how relevant it was for the game.
Ian White
What's the next hype release?
Blake Nelson
>fate is good yare yare
Nicholas Wright
I think H2O did everything subahibi does better, famalan.
Hudson Lewis
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Carson White
Rea's route is better than anything Fate has ever done though. This is fact.
Michael Wilson
All evil priests are overdone uninteresting shit. You can stop now.
Josiah Smith
How can you expect any hype from a VN that is still in translation and most likely won't be released this year.
Easton Ortiz
When I dropped it after reading the first minutes of it.
Robert Cooper
It never really gets genuinely good until Jabberwocky II. Invention is good relative to the game up to that point, but when everything comes together at the end of Jabberwocky II is the peak.
Cameron Clark
>Fate is not the best VN ever made
Christian Peterson
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Chase Allen
Jabberwocky II is shit though. Invention is the only good thing worth Reading.
Carter Diaz
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Asher Ward
Invention is just a bunch of random nonsense with terrible pacing.
Juan Reyes
The Kimika route in Invention. For some reason I love that part so much, I loved every minute of it. I wish Kimika survived
Owen Davis
There's so much to trim in these passages. Were they even trying?
Jaxson Robinson
Invention is a bunch of crap until the last five minutes.
Mason Evans
Subahibi is a shitty ripoff of Umineko.
Hunter Green
Oh God I am having trouble which girl i should pursue in chrono cock again. All of them are good girls except dumb ntr girl what do i do
Julian Hill
Drop that trash and read Subahibi
Jacob Miller
Jabberwocky II is a bunch of meaningless horseshit about a fucking cuck of a father and two braindamaged cultists retards causing a guy to create multiple personalities because of his PTSD, which was fucking retarded, badly paced shit
Asher Bailey
Miu is a good girl
Joseph Bennett
In the jabberwock I, i guess. I was little disapointed in insects, by main answer in thriller part story, but in next story i got, what such protaganist is really great for exploring existence.
Jaxon Powell
Makoto is best girl but her route is shit.
Misaki is also pretty good but you have to deal with "HEY BUSTER".
Michiru's alright but her route is also kinda shit.
Why do so many of the girl's names start with M? Makoto, Michiru, Misaki, Miu.
Cro is actual best girl.
Samuel Hughes
>/vng/ is actually discusing subameme Can you fall any lower, you mouthbreather faggots?
Grayson Evans
Stop shitting up the thread and go back to MAL, Fai. Nobody cares about Fate.
Samuel Long
I never denied that.
Nolan Cruz
>Jabberwocky II is a bunch of meaningless horseshit >literally the reason for everything that happens before it that doesn't have to do with Zakuro
William Hall
Of course. They're also discussing chuunishit as if it was the the greatest literature ever written.
Aiden Carter
>/vng/ Retard
Aiden Taylor
E-celeb shitposting is not allowed.
Ian Wood
>stupid forum e-celeb bullshit
fuck off please
Brandon Russell
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Nicholas Adams
I was very torn at that part where you choose which of the 2 groups you go with because i felt horrible for either dd or michiru, which made me drop the game some time ago. >Michiru's alright but her route is also kinda shit. Can you elaborate without spoilers? She seems like a very good girl.
Brody Ross
you need to them all to get best girl Cro, but Misaki is still the cutest
Alexander Cook
Utawarerumono 3 was great. I like it more than the first, but it kind of cheated by letting the second game spend most of its time laying the foundation and invoking nostalgia of the first. It kind of retcons the first, but it also wraps up everything nicely with its ending. I haven't beat Dream Arena yet though, and I get the feeling that has some sort of hidden epilogue or something this time around.
Length wise, it's probably about twice the size of the second game, which was about the size of the original if you ignore post game content. Ironically though, it has better pacing than the second game, still a bit worse than the first especially once the final arc kicks in. That final arc was great, but it was weirdly paced.
Gameplay is mostly more of the same, but the main story battles here are better than the main story battles in the second game (which themselves were generally better than the first game). They aren't much harder, but they were more fun. The final boss in particular was really cinematic and emotionally satisfying, even if it wasn't really hard.
About that ending though, they weren't the best girl (Kuon), but I'm happy the twins sort of won. They were 2nd best girl.
Justin Wood
>Can you elaborate without spoilers?
Not really? It's a lot of supernatural shit that distracts from the actual girl and the actual romance, which is what I wanted out of it. Same goes for Makoto. Misaki's, on the other hand, is refreshingly normal. The very poignant end is what saves Michiru's route from being as disappointing as Makoto's.
Also Michiru has the worst h-scenes.
Isaac Harris
That's enough clues for me. I'll go misaki first, thanks
Lucas Price
>none of that is as engaging and personal Kirei's wish to know whether a man who can only enjoy the suffering of others has a right to exist, fulfilling his role in a way that he has no choice to in order to reassure that he deserved to be born. Not him but Trifa's struggle sounds more interesting. Not saying that Kirei's motivations or character isn't good but Trifa is more interesting. Watching a good man trying to save what he holds dear by tricking and killing anyone while cursing fate for forcing him into this path is more interesting to me than an evil man wanting to know if he indeed deserved to be born. It comes down to personal preferences.which one is more interesting as a character. Also while Kirei was only great in Heaven's feel, Trifa was top tier in every route.
Aaron Reed
By the end of rabbit hole 2. I had no idea what just happened, just that it was amazing.
Nathaniel Myers
>People are discussing works they enjoyed, saying that they were pretty good. >Shitposter-kun cannot comprehend the difficult words they use and think they are treating them as literattiry masterpieces.
Josiah Thompson
Cro objectively is the best CC
Christopher Gray
Do Michiru first
Robert Martin
Kei best girl
Camden Barnes
F/SN has some good themes going for it. The chuuni and over the top elements are used to explore the main character's mindset. Dies is just style over substance shit. There is nothing more to it.
I have one problem with Subahibi. How the fuck is Takuji's mother not in jail for what she did?
Hunter Lewis
She went basically braindead.
Nicholas Bailey
She didn't really commit any crimes that can be proven. The only actual crime she committed was inciting Takuji to kill his little sister and the only two witnesses of that, Tomo and Hasaki, suffer from severe mental illness so their testimony isn't worth shit.
Adrian Sullivan
Okay that makes sense. But how did they get away with changing Tomosane's name? They said nobody noticed or investigated that, but if the police was involved in the murder case, that's highly unlikely