Heroes of the Storm General - /hotsg/

Judging from Thrall, yes.

I agree to some degree. I don't mind quest talents with strong rewards in general, but the game is too "samey" in regards to timings.
This isn't DotA where teams have potentially very different and significantly long windows of opportunity to win the game, 99% of the time you're gonna go to level 16-20 and finish your quests.

Why the fuck doesn't Xul have Malthael's On A Pale Horse, so he can rotate every map, increasing his overall range of effectiveness?

buenos dias morales

Why did Blizzard kill my wife?

>47% win rate
>49% winrate in masters.

>laning against old zag
It probably wasn't a pleasant time.

desu she sort of feels okay right now
wish her skins were higher quality though, especially desert

It wasn't as bad as laning against le orc of infinite poke and self heal or le protoss of infinite range poke and one shotting silence

yeah thrall was annoying but at least he couldn't peck the shit out of melee heroes
and the average player just can't pilot alarak

is zag's e quest still shitty and awful or did they never fix that

Should I take On A Pale Horse on Warhead?

the fix was making it useless why would they change it
now go buy the latest hero goyim

zag's E quest started off good
they nerfed it into uselessness by literally doubling the stack requirement because blizzard does not know what the word "finesse" means

>wish her skins were higher quality though, especially desert
Why the fuck isn't scorpion Zagaras' creep a pile of sand? Why isn't the new nerubian Zagara's creep the undead blight

>Why the fuck isn't scorpion Zagaras' creep a pile of sand?
Because it'd be invisible on Sky Temple.

>no damage
>no defenses
>no mobility
>no sustain except nydus
>hydras die to everything
>banelings cant block skillshots anymore
>every hero can kill creep like its nothing

>feels okay right now
what game are you playing?

>all sand is the same color
that's racist

>Blizzard will never buff Gazlowe, Nova or Rexxar

Fucking kill me.

gazlowe was buffed and is fine

anyone else been getting dogshit trash teammates since the start of the new season? I mean more so than usual.

Far too easily countered, far too "niche" which is to say entirely useless 95% of the time.

That's how it always is.

Anyone got the clip of Kenma stuttering in his interview after naventic won a match?

I am torn /hotsg/

which skin should I get between the two?

scarlet arcanist

right

just as you guys were discussing the E quest on Zag I played with a Zag who took Maw and the E quest.
The mofo didn't push a single fort.

Right.

left

i once played with a zag who finished the game with 0 bile drop stacks

>why didn't he magically solo a fort while his team didn't create space for him to do so
dumb underage frog

except we won several 4v5 fights while he was jerking off

praise me

>Genji for LagForce takes all swift strike talents
Is there a reason for this? I don't really play Genji much.

>tfw want to get vajaina and sonyer's new skins already but not gonna pay the release markup

It hurts.

i don't watch """pro hots""" because im not a pathetic excuse for a human being but presumably he was against a melee-heavy team that would tend to group up, so he could get tons of value out of Flow Like Water

when playing against a team you're unlikely to stick around too much to spam shurikens

gj

It's NA hots so he's just a shitter

might want to be less of a twat
Cool, thanks.
Ah yeah that makes sense.

I think I'm done, I finished my placement in low plat and I'm getting teamed in 100% of matches with Twinblade varians and Maw+E quest zag or suicide diving illidans.

>playing during the start of the season
you have to wait two weeks

I know but I never learn

What made people realize ETC was good? Seems to be gaining popularity.

he'll definitely be a very strong combo with KT
aoe stun followup to KT's chains means a 2-man chain can pretty much instantly turn into 2 kills

How do you make probius playable but not OP?

>already strong and oppressive splitpusher not made exponentially more oppressive with baseline super fast mounting
Gee i fucking wonder why

He's a specialist, that is his intended design.

Remove all of his retarded baked in bullshit like infinite mana and movement speed

>4/20
>Green Dehaka

People started playing him more defensively and less agressively and his winrate climbed back to normal.

>using anything but default or a master skin on dehaka. Fucking normies.

>tfw take E at 1 and the E quest
>don't even usually finish the quest because bot games run fast but push forts like a motherfucker and usually have four roaches on them at all times due to nydus cooldown reduction

i still like her ;_;

Yeah, and now we're at the point where Assassins are just better Specialists, useful in a way more broad amount of situations.

Give him a reduced global cool down so he can actually get both pylons, his cannon and his warp rift things out within a reasonable time frame.

Specialists don't need to be better assassins either.

Specialists are special, and by design intended to fill very niche roles and be strong in very specific situations.

>infinite mana is OP
have you ever played the video game heroes of the storm
less than half of the heroes who have mana bars even have to think about them

Unlike other heroes with infinite mana Probius had Jaina damage, very short cooldowns, Lunara's speed, turrets, and a baseline sprint

um

better hurry the fuck up boy

Yeah, and it's shit design. Specialists are more interesting by miles, so for the to, by design, disallow you to play them majority of the time, just fucking sucks.

>brawls where you get 0 talents
why
there are some heroes who just feel completely useless

1. incredibly strong counter to garrosh made people pick him up again
2. people noticed that he's actually pretty good against every warrior
3. here we are

how is ETC good against warriors, specifically?

Is this the first time zagara has been banned in HGC?

They can't kill the metal.

No.

>Abby Edition

DAILY REMINDER THAT 27.07.2017 WILL BE FOREVER REMEMBERED AS A DARK DAY IN ORCISH HISTORY.

youtube.com/watch?v=SVYmPIJt2BI

Blizzard really fucked up with Garrosh's representation in Heroes of the Storm. His abilities and role do not fit his character fantasy in any way. His kit should have been for another character.

Yes, he is fun to play. But he should have been a bruiser, like Artanis, but with burst and less focus on defense and with an ability to force 1v1.

>what Blizzard devs did
Hey guys we plan to release Garrosh somewhere in summer 2017
Fast forward summer 2017
Alright guys just attach some existing kit to Garrosh and release him. And dont forget to make a legendary skin + bike with a bunch of tints

>23 minutes
>kill 3 enemies in teamfight, only lose 1 hero (me)
>bot keep is already dead
>go core go core go core you can just group up and kill core!
>2 teammates sit on their asses farming skulls while the other 2 still attempt to push but just end up fighting a pointless 2v2

>no scarlet crusade hero

blizzard................ what aer you DOING

warriors tend to be immobile (or their mobility spell is their crucial escape/initiation), ETC can easily zone them with his knockback
garrosh, anub, muradin or whatever wanna disrupt your backline or zone or whatever and get knocked back, wtf are they gonna do? super static warriors like garrosh just stand there while mura or anub either go in and a forced to hard commit, possibly opening themselves to just get blown up

youtube.com/watch?v=P1CpVjR4Xvg

Think of a better kit or never talk about it again

What's the Leoric build now?

level one wraithfire blast, max mortal strike for farming
buy mom armlet

heal on q on 1
q range on 4
spooky skeltal on 13
wraith CD on q on 16

rest varies

I know the MVP/Award selection is a fucking joke and is never to be taken seriously, but it still hurts just a little when you carry your team (quite literally as Garrosh) and the MVP goes to some shitbrick Kel'thuzad with top Hero Damage.

this is what i have had the most success with

show up for fights, die less
that's all you gotta do for mvp
top hero damage in the entire game is worth as much as 2 more assists

>No Fealty Unto Death

Really? I'm not saying anyone is wrong, I've not played Leoric since his rework, but I fucking loved that talent in his old tree.

It's mostly how long you are on fire for like how long your portrait has that effect, when you die you lose that on fire buff that contributes greatly to your mvp score

Fealty still only exists for Tomb of the Spider Queen and only if you're doing all the soaking.
The Leo rework mostly exists to give him consistent team-fighting potential throughout the game instead of his previous existence of being kind of shit in team fights prior to 13 and only being around for either dual-soaking or entombing fuckers.

can't remember if they changed it anything on it but i had a game on tomb even and i honestly could barely notice it working when i was laning

being on fire has fucking nothing to do with it
the algorithm has been datamined, and unless it has changed in the past 2 months it is as follows:
>The algorithm:
>**1. Calculate MVP Score for each player:**
> * add kills
> * add assists x [LostVikings=0.75, Abathur=0.75, other=1]
> * add (timeSpentDead / gameLength) x 100 x [Murky=-1, Gall=-1, Cho=-0.85, other=-0.5]
> * add 1 if player has top hero damage of his team
> * add 1 if player has top hero damage of the match (ignored, if both teams have the same top hero damage amount)
> * add 1 if player has top siege damage of his team
> * add 1 if player has top siege damage of the match (ignored, if both teams have the same top siege damage amount)
> * add 1 if player has top healing of the match
> * add 1 if player has top XP contribution of his team
> * add 1 if player has top XP contribution of the match
> * add 0.5 if player is Warrior and has top damage received of his team
> * add 1 if player is Warrior and has top damage received of the match
> * add 2 if player won the match
> * add 2 x (siegeDamage / topSiegeDamageOfMatch) (ignored, if both teams have the same top siege damage amount)
> * add 2 x (heroDamage / topHeroDamageOfMatch) (ignored, if both teams have the same top hero damage amount)
> * add 2 x (xpContribution / topXpContributionOfMatch)
> * add (healAmount / topHealAmountOfMatch) if player is Support
> * add (damageTakenAmount / topDamageTakenAmountOfMatch) if player is Warrior
>**2. Pick player with highest MVP Score.**
> * If multiple players share highest score, pick the one with higher XP contribution (or random, if equal XP contribution).
>(If random has to be used for 3+ players, random is biased by the player slot giving higher players better chances as the victor of the first comparison needs to defeat the third one, too. Chances for three players would be: 25%, 25%, 50%.)
>Code snippets of Blizzard's implementation:
hastebin.com/iyokemepub.cs

Hm, alrighty. It was the best of a bad bunch before (At least, in my opinion) and I always felt as if it was doing something since you could pretty much win every lane, never have to back and be the spooky push skeleton, but I guess it's just outclassed by his new Q talent.

ok
thought of a better kit in 15 seconds

hit with axe strong!
big swipe !
jump and strike with axe!
makgora
yshaarj steroids

Kill yourself

Generic as fuck and doesn't fit garrosh at all

>le unga bunga no brain orc
Should be literally any orc but Garrosh

>doesn't fit garrosh at all
XD le ebin Veeky Forums trole

look at other chars in the game

they are too "generic as fuck"

kaelthas
make fire circle
burn target enemy
throw stun
throw phoenix
cast meteor on target

greymane
throw exploding bottle
attack faster
jump at enemy
hit big and move forward
roll away
jump at enemy and jump more if you kill it
shoot big bullet