All the drivetrain shittery on this board is fun. Let's have a thread

>not single car since 1978 that hasn't been reliable

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You're not very informed, user.

(you)

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Name one (1)

Ford powershift transmissions in the fiest and focus
Nissan CVT issues in the murano
Chevy 3.6L eating it's own timing chain

Those are just in the last decade

don't even get me started on the whole concept of the Northstar V8

Dodge Neon
PT Cruiser
5th Gen Grand Caravan
8th Gen Chevy Impala
Any FCA Jeep product
Any Hyundai before the mid-2000s

You want more?

hot hatch obviously
Id take it over another slammed truck

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>There hasn't been a single vehicle built within the last 40 years that didn't come with a reliable engine and transmissions.

have you never heard of the rotary?

>Ford powershift transmissions in the fiest and focus
Those aren't unreliable, they're just not pleasant.

>Nissan CVT issues in the murano
Again, that's not unreliable. They don't break. They just absolutely suck.
They're just shit. If sucking counts as unreliable then every single automatic transmissions ever made counts as unreliable.

>Chevy 3.6L eating it's own timing chain
That happens if you neglect the oil. As engines get more and more high strung and stretched to their limits, neglect has a huge impact.
Also that issue is blown extremely out of proportion. Just because an engine isn't AMC 4.0 reliable, doesn't mean it's not reliable.

I'm surprised you didn't say MUH e39 COOLING SYSTEM, or MUH GTR GLASS TRANSMISSION. Or even MUH IMS FAILURE.

And there's literally nothing wrong with Northstars.

>nothing wrong with northstars
I'm a Cadillac owner and lover. You are a fucking retard.

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>have you never heard of the rotary?
That's not unreliable. People just fail to follow maintenance schedules.

>Dodge Neon
Super reliable uber-shitbox. There's a reason you still see these on the road today.

>PT Cruiser
This is literally a dodge neon in boomer clothing.

>5th Gen Grand Caravan
Every engine and transmission those came with was tried and true. Seriously don't see how you can even claim this.

>8th Gen Chevy Impala
Exact same can be said about this. Yes those GM v6's were shitty. But they were reliable. A little coolant leak here and there doesn't make the car unreliable. It'll take you were you need to go, even if it smokes a little.

>Any FCA Jeep product
There's no evidence of this yet.

>Any Hyundai before the mid-2000s
Just because they were shit house, didn't mean they weren't reliable. They were extremely simple low tolerance cars. They were plenty reliable.

buddy I do mechanical inspections for a living.
let me tell you
you're not well informed

If you do mechanical inspections for a living, you would have some mechanical sympathy.
An maintained machine wearing out quickly isn't a shocker.

11th gen Ford trucks and their phasers, now that's unreliable.
BMW Vanos? That's unreliable.

For something to be unreliable it has to fail in great numbers before its designed life time.

>super reliable shitbox
That gushes oil before it reaches 100k miles
>literally a dodge neon in boomer clothing
Heavy boomer clothing that was prone to collapsing the dodge neon's suspension into the wheels.
>Every engine and transmission those came with was tried and true
There are literally recalls on the transmission pumps, you idiot.
>a little coolant leak here and there doesn't make a car unreliable
Except it does. Stupid.
>There's no evidence of this yet.
XD
>just because they were shit doesn't mean they were shit
???????

You lost. Get over it.

So, if my car has any leaks it's unreliable?

If a car will take you where you're going in full basic functionality it's reliable.
So basically, does the car start and fire on all cylinders?
Can the car idle without exploding?
Do all gears in the transmission work?

If you can say yes to all 3 of those questions, then the car is reliable.
I don't care about piddly shit. Volkswagen can't build a god damn arm rest that can hold up to existing. But that doesn't make all VW's and Audis unreliable shitheaps.

>no evidence of this yet
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.

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>For something to be unreliable it has to fail in great numbers before its designed life time.
way to move the goalpost

>no cars are unreliable!
Several examples later
>by unreliable i actually meant this!

Oh, and the Murano has certainly stranded drivers.

By your logic, every engine is reliable if you autistically service it every thousand miles. Reliable cars don't start slowly shitting themselves if you breathe on them.

What do you consider unreliable then?
There are unreliable systems on cars.
But I can't think of any car that is just plainly unreliable. Nothing rolls out of factories leaving people on the side of the road in bulk.

See

>378 failures out of 295,000 sales in 2015
>1/10th of 1/100
Wew.

>moving the goalposts
Just give up your outlandish argument. Defective cars have always existed and always will.

2001 Ford Explorer
3rd gen taurus
YUUUGOOO

>There are unreliable systems on cars.
one system being unreliable can brick the whole car, user.
It doesn't even have to be a catastrophic failure to be unreliable.
Plenty of cars have issues in which the repair can eclipse the worth of the car, even if the car hasn't touched 100,000 miles. Pretty much every other 06-08 3 series BMW comes to mind.

You should quit while you can

>he's still trying

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RWD Tacoma TRD Off Road. Non-4x4 but has a rear locker.

RWD Truck

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>And there's literally nothing wrong with Northstars.
Except for the fact that they shit their diapers around 100,000 miles. And that they are bastards to perform basic maintenance on.

Smol RWD truck. Nissan Hardbody maybe.

Fucking disgusting

Both

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Recalls are jokes.
Recalls are why your car costs $44k for a shit heap.

>being in denial this hard

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HSV Ute

FWD hot hatch
possibly a Peugeot 106 GTI

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