No one here has actually played the original Rogue.
Carson Gray
But Nethack started the genre?
Nathaniel Moore
>nethack >not The Binding Of Isaac Shiggy
Joshua Lee
why should I? Aren't the other games all basically upgrades of it?
I guess I should beat it just to be able to say I beat it once.
Jonathan Reyes
I have. I used to play the shit out of the Amiga port, especially.
William Reyes
That's because it sucks as do most rogue"likes"
Jayden Turner
the indie roguelike meme was started by spelunky though and that one only happened because the creator (who was originally an artist) got interested in roguelikes from making tiles for doomrl
so actually Doom started the genre
Cooper Ward
What are the selling points of rogue? Does it do anything better than any of the major roguelikes?
Kayden Ortiz
Why are you posting in /rlg/ - Ancient Domains Of Mystery General if you don't like ADOMlikes?
What's the news? I think poschengband is up to v7.0.1 but what else?
Jackson Martinez
i don't know how to play angband
Asher Perez
there is no new news user roguelikes are a dead genre
Michael Taylor
>I dont have autism Get out of this general
Oliver Johnson
Comp on oook.cz is up.
Ryder Morgan
roguelikes dont have any new news though dont worry its not angband it's poschengband
Thomas Price
I'll try to remember to get it into the next OP assuming 4 other faggits don't try make one as well.
Landon Cook
Classes
Tier S+ Cultist of Entropy
Tier S Archmage Paradox Mage Possessor Sawbutcher Shadowblade Brawler
Tier A Arcane Blade Archer Marauder Mindslayer Necromancer (theoretically S tier) Sun Paladin Temporal Warden
Tier B Berserker Corruptor Demonologist (theoretically S tier) Doombringer Oozemancer Psyshot Reaver Rogue Stone Warden Summoner
Tier C Anorithil Cursed Doomed Gunslinger Skirmisher Solipsist Wyrmic
Tier D Alchemist Bulwark
Races
Tier "0 cooldown wtf game is broken p2w garbage" Drem
Tier S Ogre
Tier A Shalore Cornac
Tier B Doomelf Dwarf Thalore
Tier C Halfling Higher Skeleton
Tier D Ghoul Yeek
>there are people here that don't think that ToME is the only good roguelike left
Jordan Ortiz
Is slex worth playing without experience in nethack?
Benjamin Gutierrez
how do i play chexmixbang?
Adam Jackson
Is he the most hated man in roguelikes?
Nethack is not even worth playing without experience in nethack t.nethack player
Kayden Perez
Slex isn't worth playing period
Jace Nguyen
tome wont be a good roguelike until the ability to kill town npcs without aggroing them in order to get freexp is removed
Nolan Collins
slex is worth playing while intoxicated to laugh at it's barely even a game
Aaron Robinson
Like any other roguelike, but you need to carry a stack of teleport scrolls at all time or you are faulting
Brandon Lewis
turn on the "roguelike-keys" option so you can use hjklyubn
pick a random race/class, pcb has a ton of different interesting ones monster mode lets you be nonhumanoid shit like dragons/beholders/centipedes
Owen Moore
>Is he the most hated man in roguelikes? Barely anyone knows or cares about ADOM even in the roguelike community so probably not.
Nicholas Rivera
sweet seemes exactly like the type of game somebody on this general would enjoy
Jeremiah Kelly
/RLG/ BTFO
Juan Gomez
i'm done
Brandon Murphy
Claimed muh birthright. Alas, telepathy is an absolute necessity, so thranduil it is for now.
In other news, aura of domination is cool since it has a nonzero chance to stun/paralyze/confuse, and summon ancient dragons brings 4 thick combatants onto the field.
Grayson Harris
congrats now die to a saber-toothed tiger in the starting town
Christian Kelly
>telepathy nerfed >still just as necessary, just more annoying to use thanks chris
>not playing in the way Chris intended pcb to be played Wow
Benjamin Fisher
why is one scroll of id superior to the other
Eli Richardson
tome won't be a good roguelike until it has only-keyboard controls and gets rid of cooldown-ability
Ethan Davis
because you forgot to turn on the *BAD* birth option, easy_id
a normal scroll of ID will tell you "this unid artifact is the legendary buttplug of gandalf" a scroll of *ID* will tell you "the legendary buttplug of gandalf gives resistance to bile damage and +3 to penetration resistance"
Austin Young
>he actually pumped int enjoy the [amber] 80 bug while it lasts at lasts.
Angel Thompson
you should see the summons at that level, it's madness, practically a guaranteed unique every single summon
Logan Thompson
>tome should pander to shitters like (You) who can't understand combat more complex than otab bumping
Charles Perry
ok
Wyatt Sanders
you're learning
Isaiah Hughes
>sdawert45ry7u anyways you should probably scrollofteleport next time
Ayden Bell
I won't hold down one direction again I guess.
Jackson Morales
yea thats part of what makes poschengband fucking trash there is a "run" command though
Jose Clark
That's a great tip for all roguelikes, friend. Also the reason why they added shift-direction to nearly every game.
Christian Rodriguez
I wasn't expecting to get a beat down in the hub area of the game.
Juan Hernandez
you haven't even found a tiger or a raven, AKA "lmao you wasted a tele scroll dude"
Ryan Martin
>Cultist of Entropy >Drem
Is this like a meme or
Ethan Diaz
any more games like CataclysmDDA?
doesn't have to be post-apocalyptic or have zombies
Nathaniel Walker
>I prefer rightclick->equip
Nicholas Foster
unreal world is comfy
Chase Cruz
You can fast travel in towns, even if enemies are around. ...Or maybe its in another *band, I forgot
Chase Gutierrez
>Cultist of Entropy
What did you mean by that?
Jeremiah Watson
that's another game you're thinking of in PCB if you wanna go to the world map while enemies are around you just spam tele scrolls until you land somewhere far enough away from them to press
Carson Cruz
> "spawn_item" : { "type": "Milk_2", "message": "You knead the breasts of your trusty steed. She flashes you a shy smile as you start working." },
Hunter Anderson
>check ebin guides for ToME out of curiosity >'lol just use tinkers' on every single one
wew lads
Xavier Gomez
Should I use the simplified nutrition mod?
Luke Gonzalez
i wander aimlessly
Dylan Carter
almost like it's not a balanced game im sure most of them also say "lol just use cornac/ogre/shalore"
Julian Bell
Pretty much. Half the time they don't even bother with the trees the class, like a Wyrmic guide going 'lol get mindstar tree instead because objectively superior here's autismal numbers'
Jace Brown
wander in the > direction angband is most fun when you dive to the deepest point you can survive at (note however that doing this makes you a *BAD* person)
Jayden Collins
double-shortstaff reavers too
Eli Nelson
All this murdering is turning me into a loser.
Blake Moore
Well, that worked. I can go to sleep now.
Jace Martin
Dont forget to put this on the github when you wake up
Angel Mitchell
>D:
Alexander Martinez
>Degenerate behavior : -100
Nathan Cook
I've never felt so proud.
William James
You have 10 seconds to name a roguelike with better combat than Maidensnow.
Michael Morales
Tangledeep.
Austin Williams
i couldn't get past maidensnow's weird-ass gamepad-focused control scheme i had no idea what the fuck i was doing in that game
Joshua Rodriguez
>no popcorn swarms because the dev made anything weaker than you scale out of EXP range >every enemy opens the fight with an attack skill, and attack skills are all inherently guaranteed to hit, making defenses worthless >no natural healing makes the whole game revolve around attrition >watered down as fuck skill system Tangledeep's combat is extremely mediocre.
Elijah Murphy
Dwarf Fort Adventure Mode
Jose Walker
What difficulty are you talking about? I assume you are talking about Nightmare+, because Oozemancer is basically god-tier on Normal (since it literally cannot die), and Summoner is so straightforwardly OP that a child could beat Normal on it.
Kayden Campbell
Tome 4 as a Chronomancer or Archmage
Joseph King
Please respond.
Ryder Butler
No. This way you will realize that you have been eating only meat for the last season and need to do something
Josiah Campbell
Yes, because there are no actual effects coded for nutritional deficiencies.
Nathaniel James
Oh ok.
What about the No NPC needs mod? I've heard NPC needs can be really annoying but I fear removing them might make things too easy.
Aiden Lopez
The game's explanation makes it a lot more complicated than it needs to be. At the end of the day the only keys that matter are the one you hold to turn your character without moving/do backflips/double tap to search for traps, the attack key, any one of the keys that open a page in the inventory, how to change tabs in the inventory, and the hotbar/ring controls.
Easton Bennett
if they get annoying just kill them and eat them
Jason Rogers
It's kinda annoying but they like you more when you feed them, and they feel less like robots with shitty AI
Bentley Hughes
Hm, so you can't feed them if you have the mod on?
I don't know, on one hand it does make sense for them to have needs, on the other hand I can see it getting really annoying, especially if you have a whole group.
Adam Evans
>Hm, so you can't feed them if you have the mod on? Actually no idea, never tried it.
Carson Smith
I think I'll use it, challenge is nice but I feel like this will only be annoying. To balance things out I will remove survivir armor.
Nathaniel Powell
What the fuck is the Cultist of Entropy? I see it on the list in ToME stats but a google search comes up with only that and some threads.
Benjamin Price
might be some mod class
Nathaniel Ortiz
You did it, user. You are finally a beautiful futa horse.
Nolan Cruz
>To balance things out I will remove survivir armor. What are you, a casual? You should never ever play with survivor armor.
Nathan Peterson
I assumed so, but then I figured there'd at least be some results for what mod it is using a search. But nope.
Gabriel Hill
You know I've always played with survivor armor on but I never used it.
Austin Miller
...
Josiah Fisher
can someone link me the latest release of ellipseudoposchengbandfdsfsg+ or whatever is called? I dont want to play bare poschengband 7.0