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i dont know where to post reeeeeeeee
Non-avatarshit threads > avatarshit threads
Lets talk about video games and friends!
Eh I don't mind either but honestly making a thread at 701 posts seems a bit ridiculous
I wanna fuck Yotsuyu.
What I wouldn't give for a rapier that looked like an actual fucking rapier, not an arm-thick pole of iron or someone's ornate bedpost you stole from somewhere.
why tos turned out to be such a shitpile
COMBAT UPDATE NEXT MONTH
Koreans, that's all
looking for xaela in ninja af3 with black/blue hair
Someone give me a verbal push to actually get in there and start tanking again. I've got serious tanxiety, having been away for over a year and dreading finding out if I've become total shit since then.
stop being a beta who gets nervous about this easy ass video game
I think you need some practice with this "encouragement" thing
seto stops coming here
chemo posting dies
they said verbal push. if they wanted it to be sugar coated, they should have posted on reddit or OF where they like to perpetuate being a pussy in a VIDEO GAME
White Mage feels like absolute horseshit to play, I fucking hate this class. How the fuck do people enjoy this compared to literally any other healer?
Your aggro combo and aoe aggrogen are your best friend, and anything below savage doesn't really require anything beyond "hold hate". Once you have that down, you can journey into the wonderful world of a billion [insert dps spam ability here] and maximize your damage. Don't sweat the small stuff until you're cozy, try a dungeon or something.
Quick gotta show seto this post now
holy aero 3 holy assize holy spam in dungeons
I literally started tanking without remembering old dungeons and scared of it being my first time tanking on a MMO and it ended going pretty nice, just do your dungeons or whatever and you will start remembering stuff along the fights, if you feel you might screw it up on a specific instance you can always just watch a short video about it
people once again picked this thread over a liora thread
i love this shit
xth for ada is a pure soul and needs to be protected
Does anyone know of any good looking guns that doesn't look like a fucking canon mixed with half an animal?
Don't do that
taking advantage of it being morning time in the US just to trick people
It's more the little stuff I kind of worry about. Should I be using Total Eclipse on trash packs to hold enmity rather than the RoH combo and switching between targets with hallowed ground and flashes inbetween? Total Eclipse has no added enmity, but as a spammable it has way more potency than laboriously hitting stuff with singletarget abilities. That sort of stuff.
Midan Metal Musketoon, the pvp revolver maybe, idk any other good ones easily available
lets not get too hasty here
try it out and experiment, anon. Work out how you like to play and tank via trial and error. you'll have more fun that way
ada can you upload your reshade preset?
how the hell do i clear a8s when nobody does it
I hate that Mids don't have this hairstyle. Cats, Roes, and Mids don't have it. I understand why the cats don't have it, with their ears and all, but Mids should really have it. I don't care about Roes but if the lizards can have they should have it as well. I know some people don't like it, but I do. I think it could be one of the better Mid hairstyles.
And mids could really benefit from some better facial hair options as well. Like, how about something other than that gross dirt stash.
Try PFing it or asking your FC
does ada take it up the rear or do they top only this is an important question
retards kill robots early
retards fuck up legislation
nobody knows how to do it
I don't use reshade unless i have to, it not being baked into the ingame screenshot function turns me off it sooo hard. Bright 3 plus type 1 lighting a best.
i love seto
I did it with my FC once and people just don't take it seriously so it turns into a shitfest, unfortunate
i love zettai
i love felix
and i hate myself
post dumb catboys played by dumb catboys
Just wait for level 80 when you can just bullshit your way through second intermission and kill Winged Justice in 10 seconds.
yeah i'll just wait another 2 years to finally do some dead content that should be easy to do now
How do i get good at ERP without ERPing?
i love stratos
pump more midlanders!
This world needs more Roe and Elezen
tfw female elezen tank
I don't think I've seen a single other one in-game.
tfw female elezen but hate tanking
raiding with your significant other
l m a o
only causes drama
joining a group with a couple
might as well take bets on how long it'll take until it disbands
kill it 2 years ago lol
have you tried asking your friends
What gear combinations can I use to make my character look like this?
One person said Glade top and another said check lvl 1 crafted/glamour gear on market board.
Read erp logs. And erotica. Or find someone you like and practice with them. That last one is the comfiest
i'm not stratos that sucks futa dicks in exchange of loot
my friends have all quit
anyone wanna do doma castle on chaos
i'm getting stockholm syndrome and i'm starting to get extremely firm erections from the way middies look so worried
I actually used to do that with someone i played with in another game, we were both pretty akward at writing stuff but even then we were getting better at it steadily
i miss them
what? and here I have been doing it for free all along!
Go look on the marketboard, gear vendors, and on sites like eorzea collection and xivdb
post pf and password
idk why that matters but odin
mebe i can get succ this time.
40 million for a small LB plot on Balmung
I'm debating just RMTing my gil, I'm sure I will get 90ked/2002ed and sit in a queue on housing day and any that are relinquished by people buying Kugane houses will be gone in 10 minutes.
there was another time?
phil "mental breakdown" cleave
I was here last week saying I want to replay this game because of a Netflix show.
So I'm currently lvl28 solely by doing main quests. Are there any quest I should pick up now (such as the chocobo quest) or is it better to pick em up later as soon as I hit 70?
Thanks for reading my blog!
Get the chocobo, don't bother with side quests (unless they unlock something), do the msq and class/job quests only
main story quests, and blue quests like these for dungeons and important stuff. yellow for filler/catch up/other jobs
Should I keep up with my job quests, or can I grind em out later when I hit 70. I just want to see the two expansions first.
Do you erp?
Post initials of someone you want to do lewd things with!
Hard mode: include race and gender
so YOU'RE the reason I feel so damn worried all the time..
Can't you just RMT your gil after housing comes out in case you manage to get a house? Housing prices should go up, gil might be worth more
Job Quests give you abilities at 60 and 70, so it's good to do them eventually, before 70 so you don't have hours of backlog
damn, you're cringe
How do you find the motivation to keep playing? I perform worse than a lot of new players even though I've put a lot of time in. I end up sticking to gathering and fucking around in the gold saucer because it's embarrassing being so low-skill
You haven't seen anything yet, I have a lot of cringe to go around
4 million gil (for a small plot) is like an extra $50-$70, but I could wait. I was hoping that people would be desperate to relinquish before the patch and that prices would go down, but I guess people haven't had anything big to spend money on in so long that it's just been stacking up and stacking up and now they are offering 30-40m for shit tier small plots.
worried middie faces
Not him, but Jesus it's simultaneously hilarious, cute and concerning.
As depressing as it may be is partially right, but just normal RP is the ultimate casual thing to do and requires no video game skills. Or just making friends to hang out and play with who don't care how well you do.
I think you should wait, the balmung prices for buying gil is a lot but selling it to websites that buy isn't so much. Plus, I'm sure if you try you should be able to snatch a house in at least Goblet.
I admit I notice now that sometimes it looks a bit funny, but I've always liked it and didn't really notice until a year into playing when multiple people started pointing it out
I think the best you are gonna do is something like this.
I got miner and archer retainer, what should i set the next one as?
PHIL IS MINE
Why is this general so shit?
go all combat jobs, most gathering materials are easy as fuck to get in mass. shit like meat and leather however suck fucking dick to farm on your own
you suck more catboydicks than a vacuum cleaner sucks dust
Not really, why?
It's better if you don't take everything so seriously
Who wanna help me with my cummies?
wtf, I've not sucked any catboydicks
Phils lizard is good I would love to fap to a nude album
What Gatherers/ Crafters should I max?
healing in ex
this awful healing isn't doing anything
I'm counted for 80% of the heals main/off tank and the group
tell the guy to heal the main tank because I got trapped in the rocks
"liked you heal him any other time"
I thought pubs being bad was a joke since I had good luck with them so far.
I cleared all the SB's primals last night and had 10 perfect runs with susano ex.
Are static groups any better? I've avoided trying to do static for the longest since I've only heard horror stories about groups getting into fights for nonsense.
*avatarfags without contributing anything to the game discussion only to complain*
why are things to grim here, my dudes
I sell small plots on Shiva for 10-15m. Balmung is inflation fetish.
so YOU'RE the reason I feel so damn worried all the time..
Stop looking like that and i'll stop taking creepshots of you.
Thank you but I don't have one
I want to marry you irl, where do you live
They are much better once you find a decent group, there are plenty of statics that are full of trash players. You won't just find a good one off the bat, you will have to put some time into it and probably play with some shitters for a bit. When there is a new ex primal that's a good time to look for one, PF it a lot and do well and it's an easy way to meet people to do content with.
All of them.
in the walls
Phil back to samefagging.
Ascians want to kill the Warrior of Light
Lahabrea could do this at the beginning of ARR
summons a giant Miteling to fight you instead
Ascians continually pop up in groups to talk about how they'll get you eventually
leave without fighting
eventually Warrior of Light loses the power of light
Ioegwryhm, or whatever the fuck her name is, catches the Warrior of Light in a paralysis beam
is aware s/he has lost the power of light and killed Nabriales
lets him go despite this
THEN Lahabrea and Ioegwryhm, or whatever her name is, team up to kill you after you get your powers back
Are these guys retarded? There were, like, fifteen moments they could've killed the MC easily.
Do you ever do lewd stuff?
They sell on Gilgamesh for 15m sometimes, Balmung is double that. There was one desperate fuck trying to sell a Goblet plot on Balmung for 25m last week, it was that one all by itself that only borders large plot and is miles from the mb/tele. I hope there is a huge meltdown about housing on their forums when the patch happens.
I want to hold Phil's head down and
___ in his mouth!
dressing like Tiz instead of best boy Yew
He probably isn't but just one of his new jerk buddies that post it for him.
oh phil why don't you ever notice me
not best boy
Pihl is pure and he never does lewds with anyone fyi
Glade top is also gud. Some of your choices depend on the class you use it on.
Post cats meant for petting!
Do not attack Neko's relationships, Seto.
catposting is overrated
what happened to it?
Nobody falls for your friendly facade anymore, Acat.
catposting is the best type of posting that happens in these threads
Seto doesnt care about him why would he be posting
don't be vague
holy shit what a cutie
On the off chance that you read this thread, thank you to the three people who joined my Brayflox in progress when everybody else left at the beginning. You're all pretty great.
Why are you posting in this thread? My thread was made earlier o_o)'
They actually are retarded. The only one even remotely intelligent is the white robe, and he is probably on the Autism Spectrum
Excuse me Seto is my girlfriend ((male)female))
Of course not. That would be Ringabel and the Alternises.
Can't parse #1 even in full BiS gear getting three solo balances while calling other groups "full of shit because they're gear carried"
Parse #1 without a genji weapon and being a few pieces shy of BiS
Why does Fwha try?
How the fuck do you kill healers in the Feast? I'm convinced they are practically immortal if your other DPS and the tank arent all focusing them down
Did you know SCH gets a lustrate every time they broil?
healers are nigh unkillable
stunning or silencing them out of a heal is a total crapshoot and they get 10 seconds of immunity after
SE decides the only healing reduction debuff in the game needs to be nerfed to absolute uselessness and healer HP buffed even more
PvP is fun
what pants are those and can you take them off?
You wanna do the thing on alts? I could use the cummies
they changed it so you need both dps to kill someone to avoid having one dps carry
Would you rather healers not be able to stay alive for 5 seconds?
*Cure IIs your path*
no one but cats can wear cute halter tops
It's not fair.
it needs to be one extreme or the other
How about give tanks more protection options for allies?
Not that I have any specific ideas but as an example I liked Warhammer's guard system that made it difficult to simply focus a healer down because on top of a healer intelligently positioning himself, a nearby tank could split the damage with him.
Best way to enjoy PVP is to just not give too much of a shit
it needs to be one extreme or the other
Yes. It does because PvP abilities are limited at the moment and we're unlikely to see more of them for a very long time.
Healers either need to actually be able to survive a DPS focusing them or they'll die every time a DPS can burst them down. It's not like all healers have options to stop someone from harassing them.
Is there any point to playing a tank in PvP, apart from maybe PLD? I play mainly SCH and NIN, but I have a DRK leveled to 65 as well for reasons. If no one locks in a tank, should I even bother or just stick to SCH or NIN, because I'm a lot better with those two.
POST PHIL NOW
DRK is the best tank in PvP
who is this phil person anyway
people wearing the hempen set
Why must the au ra version be so fucking shit
This would work if SE hadn't, in their brilliant wisdom, decided to take away the most useful thing to coordinating with your team, which is absolutely critical in 4v4.
rip chat 2013-2017
It's cute in its own ways. You still have stuff like taffeta, gryphonskin breastguard, etc.
Man did you even read the rest of my post
There are certainly other ways to have decent ealer survivability than simply making them functionally immune to death unless an entire party is piling on one who is alone.
stay away from my phil
Did YOU read my post? Your suggestion was to add more skills to tanks.
Read the first line of my post again.
the shorts are cute
it is by FAR the worst version of the hempen gear, just like their starting gear is the worst, well, for females at least.
I don't see how this should matter. Just run to Mor Dhona after you make your erp alt, or bribe your first succ client with an extra round to have them take you there.
That's a shame.
Why exactly is more pvp skills out of the question? You pulled that out of your ass. They're not incapable of even tweaking how abilities work for PvP. We had tons of PvP exclusive abilities that were cropped out for the current system. It is not totally unthinkable to have Rampart changed to Rampart: "splits damage between you and a target for the duration" or something like that.
It's not that horrible, you can definitely work it into caster and healer glams if you're smart about it, and it's easily more comfy looking than cat's set in my opinion.
best bard, machinist, and aura you shit lord
it's another episode of bronzies complaining about pvp based on their shit tier experiences
cannot blame you since you never will get to play in full diamond matches
so he is perfect in every way?
best at twitter meltdowns too
I'm so bad that I don't even attempt it
its not about looking comfy, it is about looking good
For the effort.
becasue it panders to the ERP clientele
wanted your hepen gear to match your subheratige? too bad have some whore clothes with undyeable brown straps and thread. enjoy
The dev team is not going to spend time balancing and possibly animating new skills just for PvP, dude.
At best new skills would take months to be implemented, but likely PvP won't see major changes for at least a year
What exactly could you tweak on WAR to give them what you suggested?
Anyone for PotD on aether? Probably running until I feel in danger of dozing off from boredom
CG 3333, will start 10 min from this post.
its literal maternity nightwear
like its starting racial ear is a literal burlap sack with straps
pfft that's nothing, it's fun when you camp the base the entire game with the enemy at 0
I think it looks fine on my EB
someone will post it
im sure someone saved it
You guys do know hempen stuff is underwear, right?
try to convince sluts that it is
why does everyone here act like only idiots overreact sometimes
we are just gonna have to agree to disagree, i think it is abysmal
They are still making balance changes to PvP, the last patch wasn't even that long ago. DRKs had to go through an entire combo for a meager 20% HR debuff, now it's 10%.
I don't have WAR leveled but as far as simple tweaks, I think tanks in general could use something in their toolkit to actually provide a defensive role to allies outside of their LB. More abilities like Blackest Night, or hell Provoke could cause a damage penalty for attacking targets other than the tank. And if the dev team is really lazy they could simply be existing or previously existing abilities changed for pvp for the sake of animation.
Alright, let me be more specific. Can you win in PvP without a tank?
that just looks like you couldnt find a proper top and thre on the first thing you could find
Honestly that's pretty boring. Adders' chat must've been full of salt after that one, though.
american baby hour has begun
I think sluts would know that it is more acutely than anyone else.
DRKs were overpowered and are still the best tank.
They seem keen on make each job unique in 4.0 PvP. They're not going to add a skill that's the same across all tanks like Provoke.
Which PvP mode? Your team will fucking disintegrate without tanks most of the time.
Why havent you all blacklisted that piece of shit rayles yet? We already had him blacklisted by everyone in pso2
Depends on the type of PvP
You can win in Feast without tanks. You JUST need a healer advantage
one who is rayles
two what did they do
three provide examples of said behavior
if you dont have anything, fuck off
kill yourself right meow.
i want to bury my face in the loincloth of the catboy on the right!
stop assuming anyone cares about your drama by litearlly who idiots
That tells me all I need to know. I'll just stick to DRK and SCH then, since everyone always locks in DPS the majority of the time.
These are all theoreticals to how PvP could be affected by tweaks and ability changes, particularly tanks and healers. If the response to any idea is that the dev team is never, ever going to do anything ever because they are lazybones then this discussion is a complete waste of fingertip skin.
Does pso2g always do this? Shit up other general because of people they dont like or somethong?
damn, phil is cringe
Help I've been shadowbanned from xiv pf
I want to FUCK Phil.
guys i am so worried all the time xDDD
posting the same shit for years now xDDD
*wears shisui behind the curve*
hah its not as common now so i can be semi unique
is it normal my mouth starts watering as soon as i see a skimpy catboy?
I hope so, because this happens to me
every ebin needs their gimmick to cling to. its all they have in life
Go see a doctor
not going to lie stealing someones gimmick is pretty shitty though
tfw you see a catboy and find out he's eb'd
mine got stolen so i told my mom and she talked to their parents about it
things went back to normal after that
not erping with a married catboy while his wife is raiding
Who wants to
get fucked by a hung futa lizard
DO a dance RIGHT NOW
There are people who don't log in to the glorious view of the sea
Which scenic spot do you guys all log out at?
Will make alt
I've done this already, but it's not something I enjoy...
I once told my dad that my gimmick was stolen. He told me that I'm a man not a machine and to act like it. I never got my gimmick back, but I believe this experience built character
Personal favorite is whenever Odin's around, but that's not always an option
yeah haha that's so glorious I can hardly believe my eyes what a truly beautiful sight
I log out at my FC house in the goblet. T.T on coeurl
see cute catboy with his adorable female midlander wife
tell him he's cute
his wife smiles at me but her eyes don't
inexplicably filled with fear
I will never understand which direction I am supposed to read this shit from. Guessing by timestamps it'd be bottom right, but it's arranged like normal columns which makes me think top left. Social media is cancer.
holy shit i'm addicted to /gpose
Not them, but damn, I wish I had your thirst sometimes, it'd make the time until 4.1 go so much faster
Yes, my dude. That's underwear. Believe it or not underwear didn't always look like it does today.
Yeah unfortunately it's bottom right. You can tell because he corrected his typo on wake
My biggest disappointment with Feast is that it's just a healer contest. DPS have like three buttons to press and it's mostly just a test of 'can you and the other DPS target the same person'? Even if you can, if the enemy healer is on point there and yours isn't there isn't much you can do. It kind of blows.
malera bulges being posted
am I in heaven?
Yeah playing around with gpose is fun sometimes I wish I could do all battle animation without having a target to do them against though
wtb one night in a catboy cum cocoon
wtf is that
It's better if you play around with reshade while doing it.
have you hugged your lala boyfriend today?
wtb one night in a catboy's arms...
It's really not a healer contest, but if it wasn't a "healer contest" it would then just be a DPS contest where DPS race to kill the other team's healer first.
The problem with the Feast is that you can't communicate with the people you're group up with well nor are you guaranteed to have good synergy with them, so you get cases where you team can coordinate to actually kill the healer.
If you're kicked from a pf you can't rejoin it until it disbands and reforms.
when will the blue whore fuck off
top 80 and blue medians... o/////////o
how do you look up the top player of a class
You can sort by class and allstars if you want to see Minah of the blue medians fail to even break top 50 of his class while his boyfriend Zani samefags and calls him the "best" here.
Don't talk about Alphy like that
aphy is grey and can be filtered unlike they other cat faggots
Don't talk about Mikha like that
I don't have anything against using FFlogs to improve your performance or measure a detect a link in your dps if you are hitting enrage or something, but all the angst over 200 points of damage when you are crushing the boss easily already is ridiculous at this point honestly.
Which one of you cheeky fucks is named FFLogs career? I saw you while riding a blue horse yesterday
Don't you test me, anon
phil is the best bard he just needs a better group and team comp
I'm allowed to call myself the best even though I'm far more than 200 points of damage way from being the best at anything
Stop being angsty!!
Self improvement is great but the people here just use it as a means to shitpost while not showing their own (if they have any or have even touched savage)
xenosys balding vex
I use fflogs to keep a consistent record of my performance, good and bad parses are uploaded to do so. I also set myself challenges I want to hit, then seek advice on how to achieve them if I keep failing to achieve my goal. I play at 180ms but I've never used my latency as an excuse for why I suck absolute shit when it comes to reaching my target DPS
He has over 4k. He's just not a consistent/good enough player to have better than a 96th percentile on Neo Exdeath and only one orange parse.
"Best" Bard. Not Sarang/Anne/Miyuri/Rinchan/Aura/5000 others.
walk in to Erraligs Burial Chamber wondering what might be here
there's a cat girl getting fucked by a big dick futa
Do you people have no respect for the dead?
You do know all of those only play with dragoons, right, anon? Phil doesn't, you can go check.
Just stand next to em
Every top parse of Phil's has a dragoon
Oh. I see now.
what places are hotspots for rp/erp?
people here have no lives, shame, and no self respect
Parse Runs KNOW FIGHT DRG MANDATORY AST MANDATORY no RDM no SMN no DRK MISTAKE = KICK
i rarely get a dragoon and i'm not even bis so i don't care as much
The Quicksand. That's basically it. I'd suggest joining a discord for your server (Mateus and Balmung both have these, I dunno if others do) because RP events in housing districts are often announced there
That's why I was saying to turn your brain off in PVP. There's no reason to really give too much of a shit
You're too busy having meltdowns on Twitter to care that nobody knows who you are.
nodody you erp with will ever post logs for other anons to fap to
you got me
how do i change the voice of my custom trigger?
theres like over twenty bards i'd rather raid with than phil t b h
I'm kinda new and have been wondering why everyone makes a big deal out of parses. All the top ones are almost guaranteed to have a composition built around that specific person, right? And they get all the damage buffs? Is that how it works? I don't understand.
why and who?
is phil the new abe?
no, abe is actually good
Top parses are either balance catered or speedkills aka best comp for highest raid dps
because theyre all better than he is
abe is a good player.
into the trash it goes
red eyes are the best
red eyes are as pleb as it gets, my dude
Phil appears, makes the same excuses, sounds the same as Abe
Phil is actually Abe.
red eyes are for weaboo edgelord 12 year olds
"Everyone" doesn't. There are a few people who are really into it, and then a lot of idiots who mimic whatever they say to sound like they know what they're talking about.
If you have enough raid DPS to clear the fight then parses don't matter. It's just a fact. Personal improvement is one thing but shaming other people or excluding certain jobs because of their parse numbers is stupid.
Want to make a party based around killing the boss quickly and having high raid DPS
Oh. Let me just cater to entitled retards like you and let you join as a SAM who doesn't even know his rotation because you think it's 'stupid' then.
id rather see a brown toon with red eyes than a brown toon with blue eyes 2bh
Yellow/gold eyes > all.
I don't get this mentality. Why can't you let others do their thing in peace if they have fun by optimizing and killing bosses quickly? It's a fucking video game.
this guy gets it
id rather see a character with an actual good eye color like green or orange, thanks
this guy knows whats up
They're monkeys who think they're entitled to join a party and not give a shit at all about trying because they "don't have to" and complain when they're kicked because the rest of the group members feel insulted that one person isn't even trying their best
what about brown characters with white hair and eyes?
"Hey guys, it's fine, I might've messed up three combos in a row but we're still on par since everyone is doing the bare minimum"
Guess we wipe.
if its a dunesfolk sure
I don't play SAM, I actually main NIN. I play on PS3 so I don't parse but I do my rotations fine and have cleared O4S dozens of times. Anyway, I don't have a problem with speedrun groups if you're into that kind of thing, but it's a personal thing that you need to acknowledge from the outset has no bearing on anything other than your epeen. The problem is the mentality that these speedrun groups bring with them, and it has sort of seeded into the general community and created a mentality I am not a fan of.
we need to go deeper
who is this semen demon?
*wipes to enrage after the lowest DPS of the 4 DDs who aren't trying at all dies once*
WH-WHO CARES ABOUT PARSES
I play on PS3 so I don't parse
Post your name
mfw abe prolly doesn't know me anymore but still on friend list
hearing Lyse narrate the intro to zones after getting used to Edmont Fortemps narrate
racoons dont have doggie dick what the fuck
is this good?
guy says let people have their own fun
parsers immediately begin shitflinging because they feel personally attacked just because not everyone cares past getting solid clears
Every time, every single time it's like this. Please try to not be so butthurt over nothing.
I log out at the inn, to a sleepy animation, that way when I log back in, it's my highlander getting out of bed and stretching.
this cat is cute
anyone got any logs between malera and femlander ?
I hope you like treating XIV like it's a second job when you spend weeks having to clear a single easy raid tier because you and the rest of your group doesn't want to try their best
The problem isn't the people doing speedkills, the problem is, as you said, the general community since they blindly eat up everything top raiders do without even bothering to attempt to understand why they do it.
You can kill every boss within like 30-40 seconds longer than the fastest group with any decent comp. Players don't realize skill >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever job you play.
Nah, I don't feel attacked but it's a bad mentality because they bring it into party finder - aka making others who actually try suffer through your zero effort ass.
It's a Dark Knight not using a single defensive cooldown during a whole Doma Castle run episode
are there any top percentile groups that run with a blm, smn, rdm and brd?
would be funny to compare them to "meta" groups only to see the kill times are practically the same
post your name
See what I mean? That's a shit mentality and you know it. I don't need to prove anything to you, and neither does anyone else who plays this game. This game is fucking easy, my man. This raid cycle is probably the easiest one we've had in a while. There's nothing entitled about it.
You can't honestly deny the fact that there are plenty of people who, despite failing mechanics regularly, still use parses to shame other players and shift fault onto others. Not people (presumably, at least) like you who are off doing their own thing with their speedrun static.
I'm on mobile right now, but when I get back to the computer I'll take a picture and post it just for you, anon.
Any requests? No lewds
you're a doggie dick
this cat is ugly
There aren't and they won't be "practically the same" but they also won't be insanely slower, see
yeah but i'm not posting it
30-40 seconds is insanely slower speaking in relative terms wrt speedkills dipshits
I don't parse but I THINK I do okay
But I won't show you or prove to you that I'm not just a weak link of every group I play with
No, it's very unlikely you'll see that as a result of the lack of NIN. Ninja is genuinely the strongest DPS job for contribution alongside BRD as a result of its personal DPS but most importantly Trick Attack is fucking ridiculous
Why is it always DRKs though? Even WARs have generally learned to use their cooldowns by now.
This cat is not ugly
Schlaegers the best you're gonna get in that case.
this cat is butt ugly
Yeah I got 's but they are under heavy encryption. My best futas are on it right now cracking the code.
talk to a lot of "high percentile speed killer groups"
they all talk shit about each other and are extremely venomous and spiteful
Yes but no one running a comp that does so much "worse" cares about getting #1 so that's different.
just sounds like shitters not skilled enough to get worlds desu
have you ever heard video games talk? guy is fucking retarded and shit lmao
I would have to agree, though not on cats.
please post it. please. you can censor names i don't care
just read that one guy telling people to kill themselves because they won't post personal character details on Veeky Forums lmao
You say this like it's some kind of big surprise or something.
I find you cute in an odd way.
idc i just like cute cats you know? shoutout to cute cats everywhere
cant wait for brd and nin personal dps to get gutted
I think there are several like that. The PvP HW rapiers are pretty close, with the exception of one ridiculous purple nightlight in the middle of the Thaliak rapier's blade. Horde is nice, both as a rapier and catalyst, but you'd need to excuse the Nidhogg eye
which I personally like, but eh
The Doman rapiers are nice, too. Ishgard for centurio seals or the undyeable one from Doma Castle
Okay, but thirty seconds is insanely slower.
Thats 2 Liora threads in a row
Keep up the good work bois
Report the autist
perma virgins only accomplishment and ambition is "speed kills" and "high percentiles"
surprised they lack any social abilities and are 100% venomous to each other and other groups.
imagine my shock
How well does your sarcasm protect your real feelings, Anon? It is blatantly obvious you use it as a coping mechanism.
People can care about getting solid clears with good rotations without needing the feeling of superiority the crutch that is FFlogs provides.
As I said to the other guy, it's not black and white. There's middle ground between "utterly obsessed with numbers" and "pressing buttons at random while tabbed out watching netflix" where you and your party can enjoy the game, get solid clears, know their rotation, and not obsess over being the absolute best ever in an MMO designed for retards to be able to clear endgame content.
I get your point and do agree but I mean it sort of differently, as in 6:10 and 6:40 aren't far off from one another.
/pet the fuck out of this cat. >people say they want to meet up for erp yet they never show up
Does this happen to other people too?
Like anyone here is relevant enough to be friends with relevant players in the game
Hello yes how do I build a house I checked the wiki but it just says "KERMIT IS HERE!!! Final Fantasy XIV A Realm Reborn Wiki IS UNDER THREAT!!!"
I don't want to ERP, I just like giving people cookies.
That star spinel price
What in the fuck
You never gave me cookies, or pets.
you can only give me the latter tho
milla before meltown
used to be abe
ippiki before he sold his accout or whatever
the rest that post here for validation? irredeemable shitters
everyone who raids here
no big sis banana to cuddle me in animal pjs
some slutty thot like kaori got to
how you make cat this big
healer shotbus parses
healer shortbus parses and lackluster bard
green median pld
Cheat engine probably. same way you get tiddies
Does Godspeed make more money than Xenosys Vex?
tfw no gf to replay halo campaigns with and do dailies
the mixed messages is almost a state of bullying, i'll settle for bad-okay!
this cat is cute too, even if y'know...
even if it is a moonie
damn, sadly I can't inject high quality poly tits and ass in this game.
Cost more than best foods
Alright that's it. STOP mean posting you freaking idiots.
godspeed sells coke, xeno is a 40y/o streamer with 50 viewers what do you think
Healer parses are "shortbus" when optimizing a healer is a two person job
Lackluster Bard when Abe's old numbers are pretty good
Medians mattering when Ippiki was world 4th
Yeah no, but Abe is still friends with relevant players.
You people deserve it.
Moonies a best
RDM at 60, nearly 61 and still digging it in spite of how straightforward it is. Does it get better or is it really kind of braindead?
used to be abe
He still IS friends with relevant players that's why speedkillers like Delete MNK tried to poach his sch and his static tuns with replacements like Miyuri or Rinchan
Braindead to the max
It actually gets less complicated.
it's super brain-dead and i totally love it for low-level dunrgeons
Abe is literally better than all of you.
A grind is all braindead
You really don't have any depth to it till 68 where you can pull off double enchanted redoublement in embolden and even that is pretty easy
wow thanks anon i didn't know i cared
you can be world 4th and clear every raid tier in the first week and /xivg/ will still call you bad
literally nobody from anywhere knows the names of anybody from here except abe, ippiki, rheia, and aria.
Show full picture.
Milla has another meltdown
Abe has another meltdown
Great players you got there lmao
Redpill on Galoopo Fruits
milla meltdowns every week
Abe is Aika right? I saw him leveling with Aurily on his stream the other day
Isnhe one of the people that take this thread too seriously?
Redpill on Y. P. and K. S. too
He stopped coming here because he's friends with people who actually play the game now
Reimi shits on both of them, who cares
High in vitamin c. Definitely won't get scurvy.
I wish Y.P was my personal Y.P and not the world's Y.P...
i really wonder who these posters who intentionally try to start shit on someone else's behalf are
What does that even mean
i dont have a full picture, i just region captured this one
Finding friends is always good
Well that's just unfortunate
next you will tell me had didn't have another grown man drama leading him to leave every discord server, right
redpill on Minorin Nakashima
be nice to others and others will be nice to you
Tastes like sour grape and dr. pepper
but very lewd person
Prolly gonna fanta into Totally-Not-Aldis. Aldis is listed as a midlander after all.
Orchestrion has an awful audio quality
can't even listen to anything outside of your home or inn room
Final Fantasy was a mistake.
Phil you can stop now.
At least you'll have a job to relax with after work at 70.
that's not true at all
You have to enter the plot area and buy it from the house settings stuff, it lets you choose from 3 types
likes to throatfuck people
Not always true
that hair clipping
Any full picture at all? I want to see if your cat is cute or not.
Pls be my wife.
that is not true at all i offer to heal and do dungeons and stuff with everyone and nobody talks to me
This adorable cats on balmung right?
It's nice to just listen to while crafting, though
I like you. But then I do only look at your pictures...
Yes its a nice hair clip
post more middies
He's still in a Discord with me, maybe he wants to further separate himself from /xivg/ losers like you huh
Maybe if you weren't an obnoxious autist that is only fake nice it would apply to you too
*glows @ u*
*vibrates @ u*
too poor to afford a house
can't craft in the inn
Music box when?
Thirsts after girldick.
no it looks like actual garbage, if you're going to use the shitty ears dye it to match the hair so it looks less shit
Apartments are 500k and FC private chambers are 300k. Just put an orchestrion in one. If you aren't in an FC then you can just join one, get a private chambers and mute the FC chat
Cute midlander, cute minion. Overall nice picture
hope this will suffice and is worthy of your judgement, it's the last non-group full pic i took.
yes, though it doesn't stop me from doing content with anyone on Aether if they need it
leaving a 4chan discord means you left every server
this thread really takes itself seriously
Same, feels bad not being asked to do anything when I've told them to contact me any time they need help
how do i make you my pump?
Convince me to return.
tfw carpal tunnel
tfw can't play the games i love anymore without making it worse
tfw stuck playing
final™ fantasy xiv™:
a realm reborn™: heavensward™: stormblood™: patch 4.06
This game STINKS!
Also wtb moonie EB on Balmung, PST...
this thread has been so shit even mado and sandcat stopped posting. wrap your head around that.
thank you, "liora threads"
Youtube is free.
*activates anti breed mechanisms*
Heh. Gl breeding [email protected] now.
No. Go and stay go
cringe dont post this cat anymore.
i was mostly thinking of real world interactions, not about the nice children being nice here screaming "fake nice" and "obnoxious autist"
What's a good slut title to go for?
Thinking Of the Holy Body, watching Hildibrand again might be a laugh.
mado and sandcat stopped posting
if anything they have been less cringe, as hard as that is to believe
Use vertical mice. Lets me play anything. Takes a week or two of heavy use to get comfortable with, but well worth it.
who is that ugly asian guy
yep, cat is oddly cute. not love at first sight but it grows on you.
I enjoy an intelligent conversation :)
But you're not nice at all. As far as this general goes, I don't know a more malicious person than you. Was Emina before, but you took their place. Just a different kind of malicious, but still malicious as fuck.
multiple poop nose
domitrix, ultimate slut title.
pls add me on discord again abe... i love u
the average ffxiv player is asian-american
I didn't want to return anyways. This game sucks.
i'm amazed that people unironically like this awful face
Maybe Abe wouldn't leave your precious 4chan servers or delete you if you were relevant or a good human being who doesn't obsess about him here.
I never knew vertical mice existed. I might have to try one out.
Are you able to use one with the same precision that you used a normal mouse with?
Can someone post the logs of Aika's new drama?
That face is asking for it
Just wish he would shut the fuck up about ZR because nobody talks shit about him in this FC.
ZR claims to not ever come to the thread but their leader is still buttmad that Aika called him out for being shit at a casual mmo
Yep, it's still the same on the bottom, so you don't lose precision like you do with a trackball or an entire axis and tons of precision like you do with a controller.
i'm sorry cringe anon, i can't allow this happen
that's okay with me
Any other duskwights know this feel? Why are there so few of us? All I ever see on my realm are cats and potatoes.
That's the spirit.
I'll have to get around to leveling my balmung alt i never play sometime so I can run content with this cutie.
I doubt anyone knows about it to post it if there is any
I wish Aika still talked to me...
talk to emina on voip
probably said "kill yourself" 200 times
i just assumed he was being ironic after the first 10 times
redpill me on cuteboys of xivg
did u get memed. kid?
they will never, ever love you.
ZR claims to be better at the game than Balmungers but gets defensive when you tell them they're shit lmeow
I wish Abe re added me too...
So, is face 2 on Miqo'te no longer the joke face? Has my time come?
Phil is the love of my life.
They are though.
anybody want to do anything on aether
Why don't you re-add him or shut the fuck up
sure. o1s 2 chest clear?
Why is so much crafting gear unglamourable?
WHATS THE POINT
i dont have his discord anymore..
O1S two chest clear
I'm glad you said Aether because ZR wouldn't be able to help you with that
i don't know how to do that sorry
Yeah what do you wanna do? Set up pf I'll join we can figure something out
I'd be a duskwight, but I'm a little too attached to my roe. Maybe if I make an alt for whatever reason, though.
They would if your name was Sera.
These actually look really handy. Thanks for bringing their existence to my attention, anon. Are there any particular brands/models you'd recommend before I go impulse-buying one?
Can you play through the whole main story by yourself? I don't have many friends and I'm really shy.
ZR isn't even top 10 on it's own server where it's #1 group wouldn't even be top 5 on Balmung which is home to two speedkill groups that are in like the top 20
How irrelevant is primal datacenter lmao
Aether roulette party is up!
Come for fast queues, fast runs, and friends!
X. L. pass 6969
what the fuck man
Everything except the dungeons.
you're welcome to, just ask for help when you need it.
Plays a dom but is malleable and if pushed will cave into your demands. Wants asshole gaped quite frequently but won't directly ask anyone because galoo's not like that. If off of work would be down to erp most of the time. Is into a lot of fetishes and would be up for trying new things. Is 100% down to erp with a horsecock or dog knot if requested, as well as would be up for taking both.
You ask I tell.
tfw dark grey Duskwight with red eyes and natural red hair
tfw Dunmer inspired
I'll come but I just joined a mentor roulette in progress
I have a discord with him in it but I don't want to post it here if he doesn't want xivgers talking to him
What is the status of Sushi x Matoks?
Example of being mean to a nice person
WHO IS THIS MEOWER GODDESS?
I can do 1-4 with you if you don't mind me one chesting you ..
tfw still taking my accessories off when i queue for trial
its ok, they like it
There's forced group content
i respect that. i'll find him one day and readd my wife...
kk we can wait!
Tell me more about this Galoopo specimen.
Nah, I got a $15 Anker (I think) wired/optical one and it hasn't given me any problems yet. It's weird how good these dirt cheap mice/kb brands are. Always expect them to crap out but they rarely seem to.
post midlanders and their number one purpose
I can ask if I can post it here if you want me to
i want to marry them all owo
that gives me anxiety
To send you specifically into the depths of despair.
Why is the thread so fast wtf slow down guys
Is Mateus still cool?
I feel left out. FeelsSadCat
What do you want to know? Ask specifics.
damn, sushi is cringe
Scary. Looks like I gotta get a guild then I guess.
Is there anywhere one can find a list of linkshells for a given server? I don't mean xivg ones, just general lists for hunt linkshells, RP ones, etc.
Handholding and sightseeing
No? Are you retarded?
Shit talking the #431 best FC in the world ZR
We'll show you Balmungers
What sort of fetishes is the specimen into?
I probably dont know what you look like!
Yes! come to Mateus for vidya gaems
On the Lodestone
The official forums, in the server subforums.
I'm not him but please post it for me!
It would take a very long time to reach the point where you could solo MSQ without doing party content of any kind, and you'd get stonewalled at Stormblood's first dungeon anyway, so it's not really feasible. If you wanted to, you could level entirely through Palace of the Dead and then do the story dungeons solo, but PotD means either running with other players or soloing which will also take a very long time/be frustratingly difficult without aetherpool.
But that's nothing to worry about because if you have it in you to post here, you can definitely succeed in dungeons. I believe in you, anon!
implying you know what any of those people look like
please post it here.
No, I just don't have any MMO experience. This is the first one I've ever played, I just like Final Fantasy.
what does pump mean?
all his 'friends' are from xivg
No, I mean, somewhere that people in the LS "advertise", say what they're about and what they're looking for kind of thing.
What server are you on anon? If you're still low level and want to reroll or on Mateus already we could definitely help you out.
is it ganbatte yamero anon time?
tfw parse to high too do savage raids
They main alchemy
DId you read the thread at all? He has friends that don't talk shit and spill his drama in a public weeb imageboard now
Please stop playing this game. You are the problem.
The only linkshells that actively "recruit" are hunt linkshells and gimmick social linkshells.
Does Rogue stop being fucking boring before 30 or is this gonna be torture?
sort member count high to low
have a giggle
I was allowed to post it
aika#9802 I hope I don't get in trouble now
Nothing stops being boring before 30. Why does it matter. It take like 15 minutes to get past 30.
Nothing is fun before 30. You have like 6 buttons
Every class is masochism until around 40.
Newbies are a problem for an MMO? Suddenly I don't feel so retarded anymore.
Could be worse, you could be playing LNC.
proof any of these are cute?
All are subject to giving and receiving;
Cock worshiping, pet play, face fucking, impregnation, anal, beastiality (horse and dog), whole-body condom (basically onahole lalafells), fucking unconscious bodies, mating press, BDSM, whipping, pain play but not excessive, minor cock and ball torture, excessive cum, licking it off of the floor, non-con.
And many others.
gimmick social linkshells
Kind of what I'm looking for really, I need to see chat scroll by and my FC is dead.
I am just a cat.
No. People who come into a cooperative based game without even basic knowledge of how the game works are a problem for FFXIV.
I bet you'll be one of those idiots in Satasha who doesn't even know what a tank is and plays out the dungeon like it's a solo experience.
It take like 15 minutes to get past 30.
Quite the over-exaggeration.
good god, I've been ERPing in MMOs for 10 years now
Is mug good for anything?
Protecting their friends?
ywn nibble on the ears or nuzzle into the neck of a qt elezen
Yeah, dumbass. It's called hyperbole.
is anything cool happening in-game tonight?
That's not a problem at all. You're just an idiot who doesn't understand how a video game makes money.
>tfw been erping for almost 4 years now and it makes me feel old but I've enjoyed the majority of it
Any regrets, anon?
Kill yourself, you in-bred nigger. I'll show you a hyperbole.
Then check the forums for your server, I guess?
Seems weird to want to pretend you have friends.
It is a problem for the playerbase. Why the fuck should I care about whether or not that makes SE money?
i think theyre talking about irl
Any regrets, anon?
Not being normal and having more normal friends in game
An actual relationship would be fine too
Seems weird to want to pretend you have friends.
want to get into a social club so as to actually have purple to chat with
pretend to have friends
Do you not know how human interaction works, anon?
Does anyone on Balmung want to hang out or whatever
Does putting your retainer outside mean their garbage isn't showing up on the MB?
Yes, and I have them with my friends everyday.
I have no want to try to interact with complete strangers in an MMO who are unlikely to talk about anything of interest to me.
But, if you're a "social butterfly" far be it for me to stop you from pretending those interaction matter.
easy to find selfies if you are in the right discords
I just logged to take a nap sorry anon
Who are the gossip girls on Mateus?
im going to nice post all over this midlander
interact with complete strangers
That. Is how. You make. Friends.
I got a cock for Galoopo to worship. :eyes:
these two are just BEGGING to be PUMPED
Oh okay thanks anyway
No. How I make friends is I interact with people who share interests with me usually because we are both enjoying that interest.
Joining the equivalent of a Random forum or an AoL chatroom doesn't often make friends.
The second one is my wife. Please stay away.
You're too kind nicelander
are you that whore who constantly copies and white knights liora as you have no personality of your own?
christ those faces
People that annoy me
people that shit on new players in duties/dungeons
tryhards that actually suck at the game
people who fap to parses
people who prey on the mentally and emotionally weak to get things out if them
people who don't ERP on their main
lf slutty moonie to pump for days pst...
people who make posts like this one
I am a Moonie, I might be a bit slutty...But I do the pumping.
i'll let you know if I find any
not anymore you don't
make a new character on Mateus to compare to current server
somebody compliments my character within the first few minutes
Is it really a meme..?
Pst me Galoopo Fruits
They wanted to fuck you.
People say anything to get into anyone's e-pants
I guess. I was mostly white knighting avatarfagging though since there was a whole thing about all avatarfags should be banned
But they walked away and didn't accost me any further after I thanked them.
I want to pin a [email protected] against a wall and do all kinds of cute things to her.
but they should
They're playing the long game.
<obligatory Ippiki joke>
How to tell if the ERP is going to be bad
face 1/3 Femra, face 1 sunslut, face 2/4 moonslut
taffeta, scion, little ladies event, southern seas swimwear, any type of shisui or fairie equipment or if they are nude
a dom with glasses and/or a Raen
That's actually galoopo fruits by the way. May not outright accept any erp invites but if you keep pestering for a few days you may snag a "yes."
Kinda shy at first.
The highlander I'm testing? Yes. My Xaela? Naw.
I think it can be assumed that one shares at least one interest, given it's a linkshell in the Final Fantasy XIV MMO.
erped with his irl friend pedoson back on cactuar
has commissions of him and pedoson doing lewd shit.
Not really. Playing an MMO doesn't mean you share the same interests within that MMO.
Now you're just splitting hairs.
I would take bad erp over never getting any
where's milla when you need some cat butt
wearing the basic miqote outfit
No. I'm not.
Saying that an MMO is an interest is almost as bad as think you have so much in common with someone because you both listen to music.
Wakka wakka do do yeah
why dont you just say
isnt an elezen/roe/midlander
Discovering that status effects follow the gpose camera when you flip it...
tfw all it takes is for one person to leave for a party disband
Shy was the wrong word, sorry boys. I more so meant you gotta pester cuz doesn't do straight walk-ups. Talk to em' for a bit even if it's just bullshit "hey what's up" shit. Make it known you wanna FUCK.
so they want to be straight up raped
lol too funny
i am kinda shy
posts her(?) selfies in the thread
hie hie catbois!
Where did I hear that before...
doesn't wear slutglam
has nude mod
For what purpose?
that's not milla butt
my favorite butt
youre mental liora
Are you just asking to get banned, or what?
more than 50 posts early
falseflagging liora this bad
uses nude mod
i feel differently about you now
I'd offer to run you to Mor Dhona for the cascadier stuff but I don't have a double mount. :<
We could also meet up though nothing would come of it atm.
He's getting desperate probably, nothing to do in game, 320 gear, etc etc
Just keep reporting it
STOP, trapping lizards is like, totally illegal
It's obviously for immersion, anon, i have it and i don't even lewd in-game
There's nothing immersive about it, though. You wouldn't be naked under your clothing. You'd be wearing some kind of underwear.
55 posts early
mods please, it's been going on for soon to be 5 months
actually downgrades textures
dosent work on males
Just say you're a degenerate you're already a female au ra solely it's a given because brain problems.
when did they ever post about catbois?
please help me understand your brain issues, kasuga
I'm not sure myself. All it does is make me pointlessly paranoid of changing gear in public areas.
I've had it for nearly a year now.
actually downgrades textures
Base textures suck, but the enhanced normals and improved texture mods help a lot (Thanks Ada!)
*new loodfag enters the thread*
Hey boys I'm super lewd
Eww males go away
W-what why would I post my name here
W-why are people thirsting after me
Ewww you all are creeps
*loodfag becomes irrelevant*
made 60 SAM now i gotta grab 70 so i can get rid of a bunch of old shit in my armory chest
i wish i knew how to bot sometimes
Mist Ward 8 Plot 8 send all your ebable frauleins thanks.
jokes on you I want people to thirst after me but no luck
it's all fun and games til someone finds your name and you aren't on a dead server
Trust me, I know.
do you ever wish you were doman
good thing i am on a dead server
What purpose does this have?
he's trying to make people report Liora, probably even samefagged somewhere in there pretending to be an upset anon.
Relax, people don't give a shit
Nice tinfoil conspiracy
But It would make more sense that each piece of armor comes with its own underwear, and you are neaked when not wearing anything...
I'm not a degenerate just for thinking lizards are cute!
not really, it's plain as day.
am i to believe that a person who has been making early threads for loads of time, suddenly isnt making early threads?
ilberd sacrificed himself and summoned a god
Fuck you. Gyr Abania is beautiful.
Liora should get a tripcode then
You already messed up by using old screenshots with two month old filenames.
You've been found out.
I know isn't it beautiful I do love the lochs though it's behind the steppes for my favorite zone
it's a literal shithole
That's a weird way of spelling the ruby sea
I won't argue with you on that
Steppes are really the only zone I've enjoyed
I think the Fringes could've been a lot cooler if they made more of it forest, cause the trees in the very starting area look great
Can we talk about Ilberd for a second? Why was he so based? Was there a better character in all of FFXIV who randomly got killed off just to let Lyse take over?
His voice acting in Heavensward was great
I don't expect mods to be competent and delete the actual early thread, but here you go in case a miracle happens. Feel free to post there, report it, whatever
mods are retarded and are looking at the postcount and not how early one thread was made, sadly
Complaining about 4chan (its policies, moderation, etc) on the imageboards may result in post deletion and a ban.
Also your thread is early as well, 750.
THIS thread isnt even capped ffs
10 posts just disappeared, probably our bimbo deleting his own posts from here
Which would still make it early. 750.
How about we fill this fucking thread before you make another, huh liora?
i wanna fill liora's thread owo
Quick, post your favorite job and why.
MNK. It's just comfy.
Heck yeah, MNK bros.
WAR. It's just comfy.
I'm really indecisive so, MNK DRG NIN WAR in that order.
let's move boys close enough.
M O N K
no explanation needed, all real men know
Red Mage. I like rapiers, I like raising idiots, I like its animations and I like the glamour potential behind a caster with a rapier. If I ever get tired of my existing glamour I've already seen the pieces I want to use for a fencer glamour. MCH and its Heated shots is super fun, too
where can i find XIV erp logs?, i am actually curious about them.
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