/tf2g/ - Team Fortress 2 General

wait no, the fabricator is 4.50, the kits go £8-10, ill just full out the fabricator and sell it

It needs a nerf because it's completely braindead and goes against everything a spy is supposed to do. I watched a nigga in the prem HL grand final spam that shit to just go for a backstab he failed several times over and still not die. Even at the highest skill level it's so fucking dumb to use. Only bads can't handle it, true, but that doesn't mean it's not annoying to fight against.

hell no, before the argument was "haha just shoot him", but now that doesnt even work with the speed buff, im watching 12 man teams who are activelty watching, following the spy, doesnt matter, he just facestabs a chain of people, pops his DR, refills it off the dead people floor ammo, repeat

its ridicoulously obnoxious as fuck "haha ive been discovered, my weakness, wait no DR matador chainstab time", ambassador makes it worse, cause being discovered again he can just aimbot headshot you as you chase him off

the dead ringer needs a buff more than anything. Once again baddies are ruining TF2

hi stabbystabby

>be bad at video games
>medic shoves kritzkrieg up my ass
>wipe enemy team as demo
Woah.

TF2 revolves around the medic and it's killing the game. What if every class regenerated health?

>play vsh
>my turn to be hale
>only player left is a DR spy
>"kill" him over and over again
>get sick of it and decide to cap the point to end it
>everyone calls me a bitch for capping and praises the spy

Used to be the 24/7 Skial Gold Rush

Soldier can regenerate health with Concheror
Sniper can regenerate health with Cozy Camper

Fuck off back to halo and cod you underage. Back in my day you didn't have healers or regen, if you needed health you had to work for it.

Fucking christ, I feel old now

Unfortunately society dictates that "stomped pubs harder than a lmaobox full of adderall" to be far less valuable on a résumé than "a man of honor whose Kung Fu is stronger even than Valve's"

haha

>Year greater than 2012
>Playing community VSH
That was your first mistake, the second one was playing in a server without won restrictions

*Weapon

I don't know what the h*ck I was thinking

also: biggest problem with DR right now is the spy can just immediately uncloak and abuse the ridicoulous speed buff to left/right wiggle till he can matador

why would stabby be happy with the current dead ringer after he spent so much time and effort trying to learn how to play spy, right now it makes the class about as brainless as a heavy with a sticky launcher in his melee slot

I'm bad at spy in general. I main pyro

YOU FUCKING BASTARDS
i should have checked, i got outjewed

he is the guy who made it famous as an ez win competitive to begin with, he is the DR fucking main, crutch crutch almighty

Rip

Hey guys join our group
steam://connect/146.66.156.167:27066

I don't get it

>main pyro
I'm so sorry

>boi

tf2r.com/kg0qozw.html

I have a strange 3rd degree. It makes maining pyro and my existence worth it.

That doesn't seem right, group links should look like:

steam://url/GroupSteamIDPage/[GroupID64]

csrd.science/misc/lobby_converter.html
paste the thing in brackets that will be in the console after hitting "invite" on the lobby screen([L:x:xxxxxxxxxx]) and itll give you a working link

>tf2 wiki down AGAIN
can these lazy fucks at the very least keep their own wiki up

i cant wait for jewl to buy the tf2 wiki domain and get better servers for it
i dont even give a fuck if he starts shilling his shit there

they took half the tf2 wiki servers for the dota 2 wiki servers

(cannot be used in crafting)

proffesional kits take 1-2 specialised

Is this bait? Do you not remember when that guy threw a huge hissyfit and threatened to quit(and actually did for a while) when the DR was changed back in Tough Break because he thought it was a nerf?

You are like little baby. I have two completed kits lying around if you want one.

Haha, epic

post your battlestations

but Game Iroda exists

nah thanks though, just trying to complete this prof c.a.p.p.er kit from mvm before selling it for a higher price

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Why did the TF2Wiki twitter stop updating

>be bad at video games
>go demo
>win
Woah.

>map has a corridor
>be demo
>win
Woah

>play good
>get critted
>lose
damn..............

What kind of servers do you guys play on? Casual, comp or specific groups?

I feel so dirty every time I kill a heavy with a crit rocket at close range and I know I should have been dead.

Casual, I don't trust my shitty wifi to not fuck up in a competitive game and like fucking around with sticky jumper too much.

I get a mini orgasm every time I see a crit pipe collide with a revved up heavy.

I don't remember this, I don't really follow e-sports I just know stabby from his videos back when he was *the* stabby stabby and the few times I played with him he was actually not a retard on Spy, the current DR changed Spy so much I can see why he might have reacted as if it were a negative change since it was such a buff for clueless scrubs his brain was simply on another level.

When Tough Break hit people didn't really understand how the DR change really was all they saw was that their damage reduction got removed, it took a while for them to realize their crutch was now a fullblown wheelchair.

"haha try to stop be sidestabbing you now when im faster than a scout"

I sent shitload of autistic mails to TF Team, if they really read them like they should DR would get a nerf one way or another.
I proposed and expect:
>nerfed speed
I suggested fast accelerating speed rising from 107% up to 144% in the time span of 2.5-3 seconds.
While Spy has no-flicker cloak and extra damage mitigation decays over.
As Spy hits 144% ramp it will cease away instantly and their damage mitigation will return to normal of 20%.
That won't prevent them to matador careless players by decloaking in an instant unless some code-fuckery goes in there.
May be dev team further nerfs it by not allowing acceleration to apply outside of cloak.
>reduced total cloak duration
I think 5.5-6 seconds is nice. If Spy can't take cover in 5½-6 seconds with a 3 seconds speed boost then he'd better draw a Revolver or decloak immediately and attempt a matador.
>if possible nerf on initial damage reduction
55% from 75% for the initial hit that triggers it. So it's actually takes down Spy and makes triggering it a rather risky endeavor. No, you can't stay alive after a fully charged headshot.
>can still replenish cloak with ammo
If all above or at least 2 of them apply, I think DR would be pretty much a balanced cloak. Just taking away its only predictable move makes it even more dangerous to deal with to be honest.
If this affix were to taken away from Deadringer without touching cloak duration or its speed boost, then DR will be the same exact crutch as it was.
>Spycicle nerf
I also suggested this "no cloak replenish" to be taken to Spycicle -which is another crutch- upon its meltdown duration until the knife replenished.

I think I added some Amby rants, and warned them that they actually doing the balance thing quite wrong on the weapon.
Reducing effective range would be a good thing but giving it faster recovery actually calling all hackers to abuse it.

>kill a heavy/medic combo with a single crocket
>heavy complains about soldier in chat
lol

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IRL retail manager here
Male cashiers are always queers, without exception
Hmm..

k

this is the funniest picture I've seen all week

We get it, you vape.

>Smoking
lmao

>Replenish cloak with ammo
This is why the DR is such bullshit in the first place, dummy. The damage reduction is fine, the speed boost is dumb, but the biggest fucking issue with it is how stupid effective DR is on Payload maps because there is an arbitrary large ammo pack every 5 feet for whatever reason.

why did you add the monitor number? and why the fuck is it yellow

fucking god dammit cunt bitch fuck I keep forgetting I have the fucking name for 1 (one) meme reply bitch cunt nigger fuck ass

*random crits you*

You seem upset

It's a 15 year old Vision Master Pro 454 that I got on eBay for £0.99

>The damage reduction is fine, the speed boost is dumb,
I think initial damage reduction is bullcrap, cloak damage reduction is fine. Lower initial damage reduction keeps the Spy alive when breaking out, yet makes him weaker anyway.
Speed acceleration was needed in my opinion, decloaking takes like ~2 seconds already and Spy gets away way too far before you can figure out a trail.
Also lower initial damage reduction would give any victim a fighting chance if he were to pull the good old matador trick.

I´m a pyro main but I only live to serve. The third degree is still a terrible weapon even if it´s a straight upgrade over de stock. Bummed me out to see that strange in my crate

>There are pyro mains in this very thread

>Spy should be able to get away at scout speed after he beefs a stab
lmao
If you can't make use of that damage reduction and no flicker to juke your way out of the situation you deserve to die there. Speed boost was most definitely not needed, and makes simply surfing ammo packs to refill cloak so you can try for your epic trickstab again far too simple.

>counter-sniping
>move behind a wall
>still get headshot
fuck you too valve

>Counter sniping
Found your mistake. Take the flank, then bomb from above.

Fuck you I'm not changing class for one sniper, I'm trying to git gud at sniper and I'm already gud at soldier

>Spy should be able to get away at scout speed after he beefs a stab
Are we talking about Big Earner or Deadringer? Because I'm trying to nerf it down without changing it to be unpredictable.
That's why I actually both suggested a total cloak duration cut AND acceleration without touching its replenish.
My suggestion is that; Spy starts with 107% base speed at the initial hit, gaining 12% or so movement speed per second for 3 seconds just to lose it all by the time its cloak turned to flickering type normal cloak.
If you trigger a feign-death of Spy it's not really hard to guess that he headed to the flanks behind your frontline to replenish.
A Scout (sometimes a Pyro) can easily track him down, if he fails to find him at the first try eventually he'll bump onto that same Spy either around their Sentry or at the frontline.

It was the first ever strangifier I ever got. And then I went to make the third degree like a year later. The I used the strangifier.

Big Earner rewards you for getting a stab, Dead Ringer rewards you for being a fuckup. Reducing the amount of cloak doesn't do shit when a spy can just surf to the nearest large ammo pack(count how many are in one area on your favorite payload map) again and again and again whenever he messes up.

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developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Latency_Compensating_Methods_in_Client/Server_In-game_Protocol_Design_and_Optimization#Game_Design_Implications_of_Lag_Compensation
developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/Source_Multiplayer_Networking

if you are still getting mad at this sort of dying after reading this links then you need to read them again and calm the fuck down or go LAN

Fucking heck. I hit send instead of Gallery

So now I'm a plain old cashier? Nope, still wrong

Damn, you dudes sure do have shit memories

I figured that was it but it still sucks

I dunno, man. I thought reduced initial damage reduction, cloak duration cut and slower starting speed made this piece of crap at least bearable.
What I had in mind that Spy can replenish it over and over again, yet it risks it with every attempt, because a Scout can track him back to ammo boxes and wreck him.
The most annoying thing was how long the cloak is and how far he can cover in the given time span in my opinion.
I mean, if a Spy took like 40-45 damage from a good rocket shot from 512hu (90 damage base) or a good sticky landing. He already would pace his attempt of assault or trickstab.
I want you to imagine if you can reach all those ammo packs in that area at the time span of 5 seconds with lesser starting speed to begin with. I think not, you'd exhaust it way before.
If someone is chasing you or have any sort of tracking capability he'd finish you after landing a good initial triggering shot.

When I try to think about the nerf that written down on the balance blog, I think keeping its same stats will make DR Spy even harder to keep track of. Its stats need a further nerf before dev team tries to figure out if replenish is the problem or not.

Holy fuck where is the update Valve

>Steam controller
how is it?

Supposed to come out by the Halloween.

I only ever use it for Duck Game, honestly

I love it

>only 1 screen
No wonder you're a shitter

I was gonna go for two, but with the small space in my room, I didn't want the PC on my floor

Besides, alt-tabbing ain't so terrible

lol

redpill me on dual-screens, tf2g

>R.I.P.: How will I play in tf2 center I will be better or not
what did he mean by this

>one 1080p or at least 720p for multimedia
>one decent CRT for 144 Hz gaming (through CRU)
its nice and comfy

I have two monitors. It's okay. I'm going to have to replace my secondary one soon, though, it's a piece of shit. Ultimately I'd like to have three, but I'll save getting a 144hz for when I completely upgrade my rig.

CRU? Why CRT though?

My plan was gonna be cutting up the second screen so I could watch PAWGs in secret with modified lenses on my glasses

tf2r.com/kmd4dk0.html