/dsg/- Dark Souls General

Great club->Drakekeeper hammer->Giant Warrior Club
Giant warrior club is by far the best but you can grab the dragon tooth/great club/large club/demon's great hammer early

fuck you

Dark Pilgrims Spontoon and 75 ATT. Mainly staff hexes, Repair, cast light, fall control, and a offhand parry dagger.

race to rotten
bonfire pumpkin
play with raw crypt blacksword + resin, only needs 20 str

Armor does almost nothing in Dark Souls 3 but if you don't have SOMETHING in all of your armor slots you'll get a flat defense penalty.

ive never played ds2, and now since its on sale i want to get it but somethings not clear here
from what i understood, you have one version with enhanced graphics but no DLCs, and you have the older version with the DLCs, is that right? why would anyone buy the enhanced graphic version but without dlcs tho?

>be a flynn clawed goat-drake
>5 people in a row are using LB or Lighting resin
>fine then, I'll wear something
>Leaping slash misses the head on anime movesets (ironic I know) or because of the uneven ground
>people get staggered by the feet but manage to roll away
>head shot successfully but doesn't combo into the L1
I've never been more frustrated in any PvP situation

dont take ds3 pvp seriously
look at the webm you posted, that guy has golden medals only because of that garbage flame spam that only works on 50% of the opponents

invasions are where its at

>pursuer cosplay(your opponent)
>isn't a pursuer at all
Not surprised 2bh

I don't, otherwise I wouldn't pick up below avg tier weapons
I'd have to use something with more range or HA for invasions. is SL50 +6 still good for invading?

I have fun (sometimes) on SL25 or SL40.

yes
sl50 is all i invade nowadays

What cup size is the firekeeper?

Sweet. Thanks.
I have played all the souls games from demons to dark 3 as a dickass thief.
Always wear the black leather set but with hard leather pants for that sexy knee pad look.
Never wore any gloves though cos I like the rolled up sleeves look.
I'm having so much trouble with the last ds3 dlc. Every boss just fucks off out of reach of my bandits knife.
I really don't wanna be a fag and break character to use the sword I got from killing my missus though, but am I missing some way to git gud with my trusty dagger and target shield combo?

Enhanced graphics version (scholar of the first sin) comes with all dlc and has a more active online community. Can't you just google this shit you dumb nigger?

no, as you stated, im a dumb nigger

finish ds1-3
bought all the expansions. which to play first?

>am I missing some way to git gud with my trusty dagger and target shield combo?
I don't think it's a good idea to use a fucking dagger on huge opponents. I guess you could try something like a whip for Frostbite because it's actually not that bad in DS3 now.

Don't mean to be a pleb but I went with a luck/dex combo and made my dagger a luck one.
I really feel like my build is gimped cos I restarted as a knight and stomped my way through to the frost-frog without dying once!
I really wish they made thief builds as great as they were in demons.
I felt like a right little arseohole stabbing everyone's butt with my dagger, and it was even better in dark souls cos the bandits knife had God tier dex scaling.
But ds2 and ds3 seems to suck unless you go sword and board or Harry potter.
Plz send help!

>Play a faith build
>Stuck with the lightning equivalent of Soul Arrow until endgame
lmao thanks Miyazaki

Play in release order otherwise but save Bloodborne for last.

I somehow beat dark souls and demons souls with one just the starting ones.
I parried gwyn just for a laugh cos my mate who rocked a bkhalberd thought I was a tard for using a dagger, and was so fucking surprised that it worked.
I cheesed him to death I guess, didn't even know you could until I had!
Now I feel like I actually have to be a swordsman to get anywhere in this last dlc.
Weirdly got this far though and I'm fairly sure I've killed every boss except the lightning dragon and the giant dragon I knocked into the pit.

>ds2
>int gets magic weapon almost immediately and great magic weapon in the gutter
>hex gets dark weapon almost immediately
>faith has to wait till fucking shrine of armana for a buff

Fire Keeper is underrated as a waifu. She's the only DS3 girl that truly has feelings for you.

Miyazaki got killed by a lightning spear once and forever cursed us

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>he unironically plays a FTH build
lmao look at you religious nerds
you make me sick lmao

real patricians do INT builds

The worst part is that it's worn by an enemy in the game, but it doesn't drop it.

This is a lie. Straid will sell a copy of lightning blade. You can get it at the same time but it is more expensive.

Twenty-ish tries and still no demon greataxe drop from the taurus demon dammit. But I can do that tun in less than ten minutes.

What do you know that I don't

if you're playing on PC just use a trainer

game has enough to keep you busy gear grinding doesn't need to be part of it

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Leo's too.

buy it from Shiva

it's simple, my son

>get it early
>farm heide's for mad souls
>get leo ring
>piercing counter attack buff
>infuse with poison
>multiple hits on single attacks, multiple stacks of poison
>meme your way through the game with ease

Is my hexer enough of an asshole to survive the resonant chaos Havel jester /dsg/?

mugenmonkey.com/darksouls2/67763

>magic gets worse with every sequel
>people still get mad for getting killed by magic
it's like a childhood trauma

Maybe I could have joined the forest covenant and bought it from shiva by now. But that would either mean buying the artorias crest or shimmiying past the hydra.

Nobody complains about it in 3 because nobody has ever been killed by magic in 3.

Better yet aesthetic the first area for two of them. Ballista cheese will kill the pursuer again and last giant is easy.

With stone ring you stagger EVERYTHING.

I wish I could lend you my fortune. I got it on my very first playthrough and never used it

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>>magic gets worse with every sequel
>>people still get mad for getting killed by magic
>it's like a childhood trauma

So DS1 magic is legit broken (pursuers, dark bead, promised walk of peace etc)

DS2 magic is strong but fair. Everyone has access to pyromancy as well, all magic is combo based.

DS3 everything went wrong for casting that could.

What was DeS magic like?

Broken beyond belief.

>What was DeS magic like?
Imagine a nuclear bomb site.
Now imagine some cunt with a staff standing in the middle of it.

That's basically it.

>want to do a 27/60 str/faith build
>already have a Crucifix build which is the same thing but is unable to wield the Lothric GS
>instead plan to make it blessed and stack it with a regen miracle and shit
>remember I have a regen build too
>dex build focuses on faster weapons and doesn't have the stamina to use an ultra well

Fuck me I just want to use my weaponfu to the best of it's ability, I loved it way before people were using ultras regularly. Rocked that bitch all day refined on my quality build before all the buffs, won me a bunch of duels and invasions. ;_;

>dex builds don't have enough stamina
[citation needed]

>What was DeS magic like?
Like DaS 1 but you could walk while casting. Many people think it was the strongest in the series for that reason, but dark magic from DaS 1 beast it for damage output. If you don't use the dark magic it's relatively well-balanced.

I had fortune back on my first run though, got the black knight sword in undeadburg.

The way I figure, str builds are the best for pve in the first dark souls, but what about 2 and 3? From the gameplay videos they seem so much faster than the first game.

I'm talking about MY dex build. I think I had quite a few points in strength so I could have a greater variety of weapons while rushing through PvE but I ended up gimping myself on endurance because of it. Can't really remember.

I don't really like my dex build to begin with, fast weapons feel pretty boring to me for whatever reason.

post it

If you're bored with fast Dex weapons, try the OWCS

2 is actually much slower.
3 is retardedly fast.

2 and 3 normalised all weapons. Slower weapons became faster and faster weapons became slower. This doesn't mean that STR was suddenly OP, because the single hit damage was also lowered.

>Straid will sell a copy of lightning blade
After you kill Velstadt, what are you smoking

>I only duel: the post

Thinking about getting SotFS in the sale since I never played DaS2's DLC, is it worth hit considering I'll probably start a new character from scratch and I remember most of DaS2 being extremely tedious ?

>2 is actually much slower.
I' have to try it out soon enough.

>3 is retardedly fast.
I saw someone grab some twin swords and it's not that it staggers and enemy when it hits, it seems like the first stagger gets interrupted by the second and the animation starts over. It looks more like devil may cry than what I'm used to.

>DS3 everything went wrong for casting that could.
The fp system is more comfortable than set casts, imho. It allows you to carry some utility spells without hurting your damage by not attuning damage spells on all slots. It's just the fp regen system that is bad

It's best dex though. Just get 16 str or 18 for BKSh LKSh options and 2 hand it. 1 handing ugs is a terrible idea anyway

Niceu. Demons Souls can be emulated on PC?
Sounds strong because of flexibility. Always a good thing in casters. Move AND shoot and what not.
I like DS2 magic best cause its the most balanced. Pyromancy only requires ATT to use. FTH has the best buffs. Sorcery is the most efficient investment for damage. Hexes are the most powerful but require the most investment.
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>>DS3 everything went wrong for casting that could.
>The fp system is more comfortable than set casts, imho. It allows you to carry some utility spells without hurting your damage by not attuning damage spells on all slots. It's just the fp regen system that is bad
The FP bar is nice for magic yes but is less powerful than maxing ATT for those sweet extra casts. The FP regent does suck. But why didn't this function?

I believe its because the ATT stat didn't convert to the FP system fully. Whereas leveling ATT in DS1 or DS2 gave spell slots and extra casts leveling ATT in DS3 only gives spell slots and more max FP. For the FP system to work, the higher the ATT stat goes the lower costs for spells should be. This would result in big mana bars with cheaper strong spells to get all those extra castings, and makes 50 ATT desirable again.

I swear its there when you unfreeze him but I could be wrong. I would always just Aesthetic Lost Sinner for Flame Blade early anyways since pyromancy doesn't require INT or FTH.

>DS3 everything went wrong for casting that could.
Sorcerers are stupidly broken for end game PvE. Friede, Gael and Midir fold so quickly it's not even funny.

Saying that magic is good because it's good to have a canker spam it doesn't make magic good or balanced. Its honestly more powerful to have a canker using a greatbow in DS3 regardless cause if the heavy poise damage.

God I want to breed that filthy little slut

Casting is almost always broken in PvE because you can stay out of a bosses range to avoid specific attacks, take advantage of any opening that you can spare stamina, and can change your damage type to one that the boss doesn't resist. PvP wise though it just doesn't hold up because ATT is inefficient compared to VIT.

>Niceu. Demons Souls can be emulated on PC?
youtube.com/watch?v=j4uGXmWom-M

You'll need a good CPU.

If I need a WA medium shield, would Ethereal Oak or Black Knight work better?

>cancer
t. duelfag. Dark Souls pvp is not about muh honorabru 1v1 dueru

Ganker not canker. Its still weaker than a greatbow in a gank.

Honestly the best cosplay in DS3 possible would be a three man Hank squad like the boss from DS2. A Havel, A sniper, and a dual katanas in Alva's.

Thanks user

>Casting is almost always broken in PvE
Huge misconception
>you can stay out of a bosses range to avoid specific attacks
But then the boss uses his ranged attacks, which are sometimes easier to avoid and sometimes much harder.
>take advantage of any opening that you can spare stamina
If the boss uses a delayed attack after you began casting, you have no option but to watch your character take damage.
>can change your damage type to one that the boss doesn't resist
That is only true for hybrid Int/Fai builds, and those are only good for pyromancy. With other elements you're gonna be doing laughable damage on this build.

So no, the legend of casters being OP is not true. They face very different challenges and struggles with other things than melee builds. Nameless King is a joke, while Deacons of the Deep are insanely frustrating.

So has the promised second coming of Dark Souls arrived yet, or is Dark Souls III still alive?

Greatbows take a truckload of stamina to use and have much longer charge-up time. They also have much less flexibility
>because it's good to have a ganker spam it doesn't make magic good or balanced
This is where we disagree. Balance isn't "everything is as good in the same situations". Balance is also "everything has its niche".

DaS2 and DaS3 are on sale now, so no

ded, all ded. Barely enough activity to get a reasonable rate of successful invasions, duelling is still cancer that doesn't work, PvE is still weak-ass.

We're waiting on From's new Not!Dark Souls game.

Just before Velly

I once asked for help here and the user I summoned made casting look really broken. They pushed out way more damage than I did against Friede and Father while evading all of their attacks. Sometimes even casting spells right in between Friedes combo attacks.

Tragic. Sad to see what became of this series. All good things I suppose.

All of the DLC bosses save for Demon Prince are easy for a caster. Besides, casters dish out the most DPS in coop because they can hit the boss continuously without ever interrupting the casting spree. It's very different when you have to dodge all the time and only cast once every ten seconds or so

So, if the Demon Prince was still actually alive, wouldn't that mean demon-kind shouldn't have had the extinction level event it did after Lorian injured him?

Karl says she doesn't care if you link the fire because it wouldn't change what she thinks about you

Thats the thing though. Friede was chasing the caster user around and dodging her while also flinging off spells left and right. All the time I'm trying to chase after Friede and catch up the user is casting spells the whole time.

I also seen another caster kill their demon prince quicker than me and I was using twin blades. Pestilent mercury is no joke.

*Karla

Well it's happening in dreg heap where timeline is blurred right? Who knows which version of demon prince we are fighting at DLC2

So do you guys think from will ever make a souls game with good netcode?

*mist
Pestilent mist.

No. Usually only fighting game companies actually try to do anything about it and even then most of the time they get it wrong.

I never see anyone else try except RTS games.

>Do legion etiquette gesture to firekeeper
>She looks away awkwardly
What the FUCK is her problem, it's the coolest gesture and I even did it with an UGS. Bet the doll would have loved it

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>>Casting is almost always broken in PvE
>Huge misconception
If you match damage tables it is. Don't fireball the smelter demon.
>>you can stay out of a bosses range to avoid specific attacks
>But then the boss uses his ranged attacks, which are sometimes easier to avoid and sometimes much harder.
>If the boss uses a delayed attack after you began casting, you have no option but to watch your character take damage.
This exists only for DS3 which bosses have varied timings and frenzies specifically to punish players who look to roll reactively.
>>can change your damage type to one that the boss doesn't resist
>That is only true for hybrid Int/Fai builds, and those are only good for pyromancy. With other elements you're gonna be doing laughable damage on this build.
Yeah you are right. Respec is OP, I had to do it for Twin Princes and Midir.
>So no, the legend of casters being OP is not true. They face very different challenges and struggles with other things than melee builds. Nameless King is a joke, while Deacons of the Deep are insanely frustrating.
Is Soul Greatsword not available yet for sorcery here? Pyromancy did great AoE vs them. Especially bursting fireball and fire orb.

>Decide to try ds1 pvp again
>Anytime i try to attack someone i get backstabbed
I cant tell if this is better or worse than 3s pvp.