Why didn't China ever get colonies in the New World? They knew of its existence...

Why didn't China ever get colonies in the New World? They knew of its existence, and there were still large unclaimed chunks that could have served as a valuable source of resources.

A dynasty took over after the Ming that was very isolationist, it sucks for them because they and Japan had a good chance to grab some goodies.

Pacific Ocean is fucking huge.

Japanese could follow the Bering route and island-hop to Alaska and the Pacific Northwest, and China had a blue-water fleet of massive ships and inexhaustible manpower -- they could have done it if they had known about the gold, fur, and lumber.

Would it be worth it, though? Just because you could do it doesn't mean you should.

They knew of the Aleutian Islands and that land exists far to the east that Polynesians settled (presumably Hawaii).

China was more interested in expanding West into Xinjiang and Tibet at that time, and didn't have the money nor the interest in exploring the American continent

>China was more interested in expanding West into Xinjiang and Tibet at that time, and didn't have the money nor the interest in exploring the American continent
This.

And considering that Xinjiang and Tibet are still Chinese while the Americas are no longer Spanish/French/British, can we really be so certain in claiming that this was the "wrong" choice?

>Qing.
>Isolationist.
Hmm

Spain isn't really all that close to Peru

The Pacific Ocean is at least twice as big as the Atlantic. Once you arrive at a place it's easier to settle, set up supply lines and infrastructure, and then expand from there. China would have had to go twice the distance and then set up the infrastructure. It would have been much harder.

Huang Xiuquan would have been the best emperor. Fucking imperials and Westerners. The Heavenly Kingdom will rise again.

Tokugawas could have sent prisoners and Christians there and established a colony like GB did with Australia. Over time you get a Japanese hegemony and a foothold in a resources-laden land, it would definitely be worth it. Japan would need living space later on.

The Pacific surface area is the same as all dry land surface area on earth its fucking enormous.

>send over Christians
No way that could have gone awry when the Japanese began persecuting Christians back home?

asia cant into ships

Why expand when you don't seem to have actual rivals and you already control almost all of the trade and resources in your region? European powers had to colonize to gain an edge over their rival neighbors. China had no powerful neighbors (Japan was much weaker until the Meiji restoration) so they didn't have an incentive to expand.

crossing the Pacific is much harder than crossing the atlantic.

The Spanish did it only once per year, from Acapulco in Mexico to Manila in the Philippines, and they used a huge galleon for that.

>he doesn't know about Chinese Noah and his big ass ships full of Giraffes and leopards

Wut? Chinese Junks were fucking huge

>The Heavenly Kingdom will rise again.
Yeah, followed by the 4th reich, the USSR, K*rdistan and the """Roman""" Byzantine empire.

More likely than the Ottoman Empire rising again

Just you wait, infidel.

Kurdistan has existed de facto in Iraq since 1992.

>huge=good
Good one, Chang, but the size of your junk doesn't mean you have a big junk.

That guy is not from the house of Osman though.

Erdoganid Empire sounds dogshit.

Why is Sancho a Mongol?

China thinks they are the center of the universe and their kingdom has a heavenly mandate. Therefore they have no fucking interest in anything that does not touch China.

The massive treasure fleet was sent out to show off the wonders of China and to see if the outside world had anything of worth. Chinese basically decided that China already had all the best stuff. So just make the traders come to you instead.

Gavin Menzies, please go and stay go.

Obviously because of barbarians, you laowai.

Who are the Far-East's Jews. I'm imagining an alternate timeline where China got colonies and there are a shit ton on shitters on youtube with Sun Tzu and Menius avatars who blame them for China's loss of their colonies.

China had a bunch of merchant minorities but none of them stayed around in China long enough to become a significant group. This includes Jews, Dutch, British, Arabs, Iranians.

China had no interest in the new world, as they were already the world's largest economy. They didn't need goods that they already produced in large amounts.

because they allready had 'all the gold in china'

that ship doesnt go into ocean

They didn't take QFTNW and the idea spawned in Spain so they didn't get settlers or extension of their colonial Range until all the colonization provinces had been taken.
t. Johan