USS Liberty Attack - Was it a false flag or not?

Severals americans crew members say they had a visible american flag, at the same time israelis just claim "there was no flag".

Did israel try to sink it to blame it on egypt to get the US the join the israeli war of 67?
I mean it wasn't just one attack gone wrong.
The whole fight was almost two hours long and involved several planes and israeli boats.

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I forgot to add: Let's gas all the jews, for real this time, the holocaust didn't happen.

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Well israel never acknowledged anything but they kept attacking despite it flying the american flag and looking nothing like any egyptian vessel.

look, this isn't a conspiracy theory kind of debate about what happened. Fucking obviously Israel wanted to blame it on Egypt, they wanted their own Lusitania scenario or Pearl harbor for their cause but fucked up by being the Eternal Jew. I can still see it today the look on their disgusting jew faces as they attacked.

Did they ever apologize?

It was a mistake, people make them all the time.
Just like the US bombed the SAA like two weeks ago in Der-Zor killing 150 government soldiers and allowing IS to overrun their position.

Shit happens, so please stop with the obvious anti-semitic rhetoric you try to pass off with these threads and do something more productive for the board.

It was a mistake tbqh. You should take a look at all the friendly fire that actually happens in war, it's not pretty.

That doesn't sound unintentional at all.

>Israel apologized for the attack, saying that the USS Liberty had been attacked in error after being mistaken for an Egyptian ship.[6] Both the Israeli and U.S. governments conducted inquiries and issued reports that concluded the attack was a mistake due to Israeli confusion about the ship's identity,[2] though others, including survivors of the attack, have rejected these conclusions and maintain that the attack was deliberate.[7]

>In May 1968, the Israeli government paid US$3,323,500 (US$22.7 million 2016) in compensation to the families of the 34 men killed in the attack. In March 1969, Israel paid a further $3,566,457 to the men who had been wounded. On 18 December 1980, it agreed to pay $6 million as settlement for the final U.S. bill of $17,132,709 for material damage to Liberty herself plus 13 years' interest.[8]

It was a mistake. Mistakes happen in wartime, especially with paranoid people like the Israelis

What one should ask is why the fuck the USS Liberty decided to sail into a warzone in the first place. (iirc it was spying)

Furthermore the Israelis shot down some of their own fighters in the past because they strayed too close to their nuclear research facilities.

What are you talking about?

The SAA control alot of territory in eastern Syria so it is understandable that they would have a hard time telling government positions apart from IS bases.

ISIS *is* the US.

Tinfoil.

"It doesn't count because all of their US weapons were bought on the black market or captured completely unguarded from iraqi depots"

Yea it really doesn't. You can make the argument that the U.S shouldn't have been in Iraq in the first place, and by that the weapons shouldn't have been there, but ISIS clearly *isn't* the U.S.

It's obvious that ISIS is the NATO, tons of people have said it, Iraq shot down a British transport plane dropping supplies to ISIS, the US drops supplies to ISIS all the time, etc. Go read.

Whatever you say John Birch.

There is literally no reason why the US would ever oppose Islamic terrorism.

>Severals americans crew members say they had a visible american flag, at the same time israelis just claim "there was no flag".

The Israeli pilots more than likely didn't see the flag. The simple fact of the matter is that a pilot flying at near supersonic speeds, rolling in on a target only 1-2km away, is only going to have scant seconds to identify and attack his target, while also preforming a few evasive maneuvers to avoid potential AA fire. Even in the slim chance that he sees a small patch of fabric, it's not going to register until he's passed the target.

For illustration, here's gun camera footage from Argentine attack aircraft during the Falklands war.
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One needs only to look at how A-10 pilots have repeatedly attacked American and Canadian/British ground forces despite clear vehicle markings. Or how Me 262 pilots in WWII for found that they couldn't attack B-17 formations head-on because the closing rates were too fast for them to shoot accurately.

For the people backing the conspiracy theory that the Israelis definitely knew it was an American ship and attacked it anyway, I would be very interested in hearing what Israel's motive for doing so was and what they hoped to gain from the attack.

That's quite easy: They wanted the Americans to think the Egyptians were responsible for the attack, they'd sneak on home and then America would BTFO Egypt in revenge.

Except of course that this fails occam's razor compared to "The Israelis noticed a ship that wasn't theirs during a war with egypt, assumed it was egyptian and bombed it."

They had to prevent the spy ship from contacting Washington long enough to attack the Egyptians. One call to Washington would have put an end to the offensive. Pres. Johnson could easily have stopped it diplomatically.

The question is: why?

The attack happened on the 8th June. By that point, the Egyptian army was completely disintegrated and fleeing in droves as Israeli forces were approaching the Suez Canal. Israel was in no need of assistence, especially not against Egypt.
And don't forget, America couldn't just outright attack Egypt. They would have to consider a Soviet counterreaction, just like in 1956.

So: why would Israel perform a risky false flag attack to involve both superpowers in a war they have already won?

It was a mistake. USA couldn't enter the war, because there were soviet troops at the canal.
Thats basically why the israeli army stopped, they occupied all the land in front of the soviet troops, and stopped when they reached them.

The dictator of Egypt at the time was palls with the dictator of USSR, and there is no way the war could've resulted in anything more than it actually did.

No, Israel was afraid they would spy on them so they killed them and killed those fleeing in life rafts too. The US knew Israel did it from the beginning and their first impulse was to send out fighters to sink it before the survivors could get on land and tell the media what Israel did to them.

The Jews wanted WW3.

Now, why would they want that, you ask? It's rather simple. No /pol/, sit down. It's not because it would kill every man, woman and child on earth and let the ooga-boogas in Africa take over since their mud-huts weren't worth nuking. It's far more nefarious, far more frightening, far more... Jewish.

Have you ever looked at an ICBM? Or for that matter, an ALCM?

Have you ever wondered why so much language around military terms seems vaguely phallic? I'll tell you what comes to mind when I think of a "penetration aid" and it's certainly not a decoy warhead.

Now, the Jews - who are very smart people and proud feminists, universally - couldn't help but notice this. All these ICBMs lying around the world, unfired. But wait! There existed a problem: They had fairings mounted on the tip. These made the missile aerodynamic for leaving the atmosphere and much more pleasurable to rub your hands on, but they also made it harder to clean underneath the fairings and acted as an affront to g*d

So, the fairings would have to come off. As luck would have it, they do come off in space to let the warheads fall back to earth. That's why the Jews wanted WW3: They wanted the largest mass-circumcision in history and to hell with the consequences.

Oy Vey.

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>very smart people and proud feminists
contradiction in terms

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At last I truly see