/fog/ - Fallout General

What happens when you visit Vegas in FO1?

Pretty fun, NV has a much better variety of explosives than 3 or 4.

Nothing, there is nothing there at all

It's just a detail on the map

Which is better then Fallout 2 not showing Sacramento at all

How do I do one without just feeling like I'm trying to recreate Kira? I mean, I kind of am, but I want it to feel like it's mine.

>Who's the most powerful faction in on the continent? I figure NCR because they're not fragmented like the BoS.
The NCR or the Legion

The Midwestern BoS used to be pretty big, but collapsed sometime between Fallout Tactics and Fallout 3.

On the East Coast its easily Maxson's BoS

Oh, I thought you could go "anyhwere" but it would be procedurally generated. Like Daggerfall.

you didn't try shit

Assaultrons are too damn sexy.

Knock it off.

curie doesn't deserve this. cait does though

IT would randomly generate a a tile based on the environment you were in, but there were no towns or anything outside of the pre-made ones.

It's nothing like Daggerfall really

Well maybe I didn't try hard enough. But I don't want to touch that sperg, he's a huge fag.

>because it doesn't fit on the actual location of Bakersfield. It fits more on Barstow
user, please tell me you aren't THIS retarded

fallout.gamepedia.com/Necropolis
>In Fallout, according to the Vault-Tec Vault Locations holodisk, Vault 12 was located in Bakersfield. However, while Necropolis lies to the north-east of Los Angeles, the actual city of Bakersfield is not far to the south-west of the Lost Hills bunker. The location of Necropolis roughly matches the town of Barstow. It is probable that while Necropolis was initially placed where Bakersfield is, the locations were moved by the developers at a later date to spread them out better along the map and game files were not updated to reflect this fact.

This has been known since Fallout 1 came out you idiot

Exactly what I was referencing, your point being? Because my point was that it's a video game, and it has to distort the map for gameplay reasons.

Also, seriously, provide proof of your statement that the original game was supposed to take place closer to nevada. Maybe in the pre-production when the world map was drawn, and they didn't re-draw it, but right now, it jsut seems like you pulled it right out of your ass

>Exactly what I was referencing, your point being?
The point being that only proves the original point.

Necropolis in Fallout 1 is located were Barstow is, which would place Vault 15 and Shay Sands in Nevada, just like is shown on the Fallout 1 map

>Also, seriously, provide proof of your statement that the original game was supposed to take place closer to Nevada
What are you even talking about user, the very maps you posted prove it takes places in parts of Nevada

This has to be some sort of bizarre troll or something

Are you clinically retarded? You said in the previous thread that the original game was closer to vegas

>This is also deomstrably false as back in Fallout 1, Vault 13, 15, and Sandy ,were in Nevada, only retconed to being in California in Fallout 2 which moved them much further west.

Provide fucking proof. Or is your only proof that there's a cell on the world map in 1 where there's a re-used ruined city tile that isn't actually a location?
Do you seriously think, that during developement, they thought that spot was Vegas? and they would miss out on including or even mentioning it? The maps arent proof, they are distorted, because it's a fucking game.

This map is hilarious because the location of New Reno shows how much its downscale compared to IRL, and shows how much further into Nevada Vault City and gecko would be

>You said in the previous thread that the original game was closer to vegas
No, I said Vault 15 and Shady were closer to the Vegas, as you yourself just posted.

The game in general is very much in California, which was never debated.

For someone who calls others retarded, you really don't seem to have a firm grasp on reading.

>Do you seriously think, that during developement, they thought that spot was Vegas? and they would miss out on including or even mentioning it?
You mean like how Fallout 2 totally ignored the existence of Sacramento, California's state capital?

Also, they did mention Vegas in Fallout 1, Tycho mentions a fat mob boss running the place(As a reference to Wasteland)

Have you even fucking played these games user?

>only part of the map is closer!

Wow it's like the fucking map is distorted and can't be fit 1:1 over the actual map of the US. Wow! The smudge you claim to be Vegas, isn't fucking vegas, compare the tile to the Boneyard Tiles, it looks more like a crater, not a city. You're just posting your shitty headcanon here as facts, then cherrypicking which ones to respond.

Tycho only mentions that his father knew a fat slob, like Gizmo, Doesn't say anthing about the fat one being a boss of any kind
> But watch out for that fellow Gizmo. Reminds me of another fat freak my father told me about back in Las Vegas.

Also, since you still haven't acknowledged, here's the Ranger armor's description, sounds a lot like the NCR Ranger armor that Obsidian Retconned in :^)
>You see a man in dusty leather armor with a trenchcoat and gas mask

ITs even noted on the wiki pages that V15 and other locations were moved much farther west between Fallout 1/2

fallout.gamepedia.com/Vault_15
>The location of Vault 15 changed between Fallout and Fallout 2, in the latter being much farther to the west.

>Remember OS has vertice editing
>There aren't any in the area
Well I'm too much of a brainlet to know what to do from here so I guess this is shelved for the time being.

Any recommendations for mods on PS4?

One nice bullet in the brainpan friend

Fucking hacks. They could've at least release new doom marine armor, this shit looks ridiculous

>Wow it's like the fucking map is distorted and can't be fit 1:1 over the actual map of the US.
That's exactly the point user.

If you take the known locations on the map, and stretch them out over the real world map, its pretty evident that, based on Necropolis's location in Fallout 1, Shady Sands, V15, and !3 were all located in Nevada, or in V13's case right on the border.

I over a decade of going on various Fallout related forums, I can honestly say you are the first person I have ever seen try to argue this topic.

thicc

Make it higher poly in Blender

I didn't realize it was that bad

You first, asshole.

You're the one who argued that Vegas was on the map in 1, not me, yet you based that on a smudge on a map and real life locations, and then applied them to a distorted map in a 90's video game that had physical limitations. How dumb are you? And of course the distance between 13 and 15 change between games, the maps are different sizes, the perspective is also different, it's not proof of a retcon. Also, agian, you only respond to the one point you want to keep arguing about, withouth admitting that you are factually wrong about things, while you keep digging yourself in deeper with your headcanon shit, now going 2 threads strong. Neck yourself

Gayest trip ever.

I've seen NMA fags less delusional and hostile then you, Jesus Christ.

>>>//sg/

the fuck u say nigga

w-why is everyone so mean right now

Post happy things

>stop making shit up and shilling for bethesda writing
>REEEEEEEE NMA FAG
Take this Strawman and show it up your ass, Todd.

>Now he's off of Trainwiz and back onto Buffscale, his original boyfriend

i'm happy that i killed cait in my game

>tfw everyone worth killing is essential

I put Cait in the Combat zone Stripper outfits by TheKite and Niero, and threw her into one of those pillories so she can be used as the whore she is

So children and companions?

>100% off
I don't pay attention to consolecucks and FO4 newfags but did the good goy buyfags who bought the first wave of CC (((mods))) complain when that shit became free only a few days later?

Don't forget, you're here forever.

what

>Post happy things
No, fuck you. I enjoy being angry. Angry about things.

There are some NPCs as well, I ran across this ghoul couple who were pretty hostile to me, so I tried putting a bullet in their wrinkled heads only to see them slump on the ground and get back up seconds later.

> I ran across this ghoul couple who were pretty hostile to me
Who?

...

>nearly all of the CC mods have had to have unofficial fixes uploaded to the nexus

so much for that QA Pete

>Slaughter Dog
what?

Yeah it's fucking insane. I bet once actual quest mods come out they are going to be completely fucked.

Most of those "fixes" are just
>I don't like that I can't mod it so its wrong!
Which isn't a fix.

Though the hellfire armor did need an actual fix

Dunno, their last names were peabody or something.

Ohh them, you can sell them to the Gunners as slaves as part of the "Kid in a Fridge" quest

what

question: is every CC update going to break f4se? is bethesda that retarded? are the f4se devs going to get fed up and remove the version check?

>is every CC update going to break f4se?
yes
>is bethesda that retarded?
yes
>are the f4se devs going to get fed up and remove the version check?
maybe

>is bethesda that retarded
Yes, but that has nothing to do with the fact that F4SEs version check is entirely uneccessary.

>go to sleep
>still no f4se update
wow! it's like Todd wants me to stop playing his game!

Blame consoles

bethesda.net/community/topic/87400/creation-club-faq-updated-sep-21
>Why do the Creation Club assets download for everyone? [UPDATED]
>This was a requirement for some platforms and how Creation Club needed to work. Most other games that offer similar content do the same. We realize this is a frustration point for players and we are working on a solution to change the way this functions. This has been resolved on the PC for future releases, but is not retroactive for the creation club launch content on Fallout 4.

Basically, after this new round of creation club content, it shouldn't download everything anymore.

can someone tell me what the fuck is going on here? sorry for the cropping, my computer likes to take huge screenshots.

best relationship in FO4.

Took too much skooma man

you running enb+vanilla AA?
disable vanillla AA

you can use RIOT to make those huge screenshots smaller in size.

luci.criosweb.ro/riot/

Marry me Caitfag and I'll love you for the rest of your whole life when you're ready.

we're all gonna make it user

>People found unused companion dialogue detailing the player telling them what tactics to use such as melee/ranges, and how far away to stay from them
Apparently the idea was cut early on and not all of them have it

>4 traded complexity for being more shit

Well, what a surprise.

>Implying companion tactics ever worked and weren't complete shit

That's trademarked buddy

In my game, this actually occured (random encounter, urban ruins rat horde).
>The smudge you claim to be Vegas, isn't fucking vegas, compare the tile to the Boneyard Tiles, it looks more like a crater, not a city.
Not who you are replying to, but that region in FO1's map is definitely urban ruins and the game treats it as such. And going by the geographical topography of the in-game FO1 map, you could easily derive that non-POI urban area to be the Vegas metropolitan area. V13-15-Shady line was really far east in the original game, the change in FO2 made much more sense (although Vault City is still in a fucked up spot in the middle of literal nowhere). Sure, the map is distorted (especially east-west scale), but the basic geographical features are pretty noticable.

What is YFS?
The Divide is mixed on where it is exactly. I think it's around the Nopah range, around the small towns of Shoshone and Tecopa; it's an area with state highway junctions, near Death Valley. It could also refer to Death Valley itself; basically the Divide quick rundown, is it's fucked up the usable travel routes in the whole Death Valley region.

Yeah, considering the enemy AI, combat commands would have done jack shit.

The AI meme is a shitty one.

For example, the "AI" used in FEAR 1, a game often considered to have some of the best enemy AI in a video game, even today, is actually the same stock set of AI scripts used in basically everything else around that time.

What made FEAR 1's AI seem so good was the fact that ever level was pretty linear, which meant they could very carefully craft every single encounter with small thing that would FORCE the enemy AI to do thinks that made it seem like they were trying to flush you out with grenades, or were flanking you, but, in reality, they were just done the one thing they could do.

Open world games tend to have pretty shit AI because them being open world means lots of space, which means not a lot of shit for the enemy to interact with, with is why, even to this day, most enemies in open world games just charge the shit out of you.

It's not a matter of AI as it is a matter of open world game design being shit for enemy "AI" because enemy "AI" isn't actually AI, it's just a series of conditional script triggers, that most of the time never get trigger because of open spaces.

Huh, just realized you can download the previous version of the Fallout4.exe while you wait for the new F4SE update. Why isn't this common knowledge in the thread? Does it lead to issues?

Look, I'm no programmer but there has to be a way to make the AI use cover more effectively. The AI does take cover in F4, but half the time half their body is sticking out. You can take potshots at their asses and they won't return fire.

Another way to address this is just make enemies spawn in more advantageous positions like rooftops. Of course, this was again in F4, but those enemies still just ran down to you instead of firing from their sniper positions. Is it really that hard to make the AI stand still in some spots?

>Curie

can't seem to resolve this bug in FNV that makes ground textures appear in the sky. it happens with ENB + realistic wasteland lighting.

should i just switch to nevada skies?

That's actually pretty fuckin hilarious

You should keep it

Dogmeat you piece of shit.

That's what you get for not playing nora and letting him knot you.

So I had to go on holiday when the whole Creation club bullshit happened. Is there a fix for this shit so the mods i had before will work?

You gotta redo your load order and dl the latest F4SE if you use it and it's been updated for this morning's update.

all the mod you had before will still work regardless.

just wait until f4se and the mods that use it :^) get updated.

If you're just waiting on F4Se, follow: reddit com/r/Steam/comments/611h5e/guide_how_to_download_older_versions_of_a_game_on/
Use
>download_depot 377160 377162 5059113238785214141

If you have mods that are actually broken, that's a separate issue and you'll need to explain what.

>and the mods that use it :^)
All 4 of them

Thanks for the info.

Did Bethesda talk about any of the backlash from fans? Or are they going to continue to be cunts about creation club?

Lads, I have no stealth boy sound when entering sneak mode with the Chinese Stealth Suit (nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/20959/?).

Is it supposed to be like that?

>Did Bethesda talk about any of the backlash from fans?
The only backlash they had was from a handful of people on the Internet, aka, a tiny minority of the people that play their games, so no.

A number of the bigger name online game critic types whose opinions are actually worth something did jump on the train to give bethesda their well deserved reaming over the CC. So don't act like it's just really loud angry people.