/4ccg/ - rigstep edition

It doesn't fucking matter what excuse leaf boy comes up with everyone and their dead dog's grandpa knows he only did so because he used to manage them

>Where's the self-respect?
Goat is a Cowboys fan from Northern California. Any self-respect he once had has, much like the football team he follows, went directly into the gutter and only occasionally popped out.

>he lashes out with his trip on.
Funny because some of the /w/ threads are pretty obvious he is bumping and responding without it.

He hid from /4ccg/ for a week. Then, after thinking long and hard about it, said:

"I'm not impartial when it comes to /w/."

When people pointed out how dead the threads were, he said he "just knew" there was interest, despite the evidence, and kept appealing to the (low!) number of roster poll replies, you know, something that is never, ever shared outside a cup thread on a team's board and in no way is subject to outside influence or manipulation.

>tfw both /c/ and /h/ had pretty good secondary support
>tfw /c/ was actually culled and /h/ only avoided cull because it wasn't in Spring
>tfw /p/ got culled but can still manage more interest than /w/

Honestly any of the culled teams had much more to give in terms of fans, when there was a negligent manager. /c/, /p/, /out/, even /p/ and Veeky Forums all found somewhat of an interactive fanbase after their respective managers decide to give up on the cup. Heck I'd bet that if I ran a poll on /adv/ I'd get 10-15 responses and a revolutionized roster easy. But /w/? Nobody fucking cares about /w/. It's a dead board in itself and absolutely no one gives a single fuck about the 4CC team.

In all fairness, the grounds for avoiding the cull were having anything above plain silence or a fuck you. /w/ does pass that test, Lear just wants to exaggerate the team's health.

Because when the teams to watch during Spring were being decided in /merit/ we felt it was fine if a board got recent poll responses but not posts. I communicated what /w/'s status was with /merit/ honestly and they were also fine with it.

What the Cull is has changed since then but when that decision was made that was our criteria. /c/ were there because it was a year since their last poll and the recent /y/ thread had never seen the board that was a concern.

>we felt it was fine if a board got recent poll responses but not posts.
>/c/ was almost culled FOR THIS EXACT REASON.

Daily reminder that the culling was literally only supposed to remove /t/ to get /merit/ and Lear over, the justifications merely killed other teams in the process.

>I communicated what /w/'s status was with /merit/ honestly and they were also fine with it.
You've exaggerated your "status". We proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that all of your threads prior to the Cull were a fucking graveyard. If /c/'s last good interest was spring 16 so was yours and your team should be culled accordingly.

I can't believe Johnny Wheelchair has more self-awareness than everyone on /w/ management

William Wheelchair.

I think the culling worked as a one time thing and shouldn't happen again.

The big question, if someone ran a roster poll on /t/ now would it get more support than /w/?

archive.4plebs.org/adv/thread/16296259/#16296259
>this is a culled team
>but /w/'s interest passes for good

No. /t/ has literally NEVER had any proof of interest. Like no post whatsoever. It's not a hyperbole.

>Culling
>Worked
It literally did the opposite of what it was supposed to do.

Well /t/ is dead for good so there is that. /w/ should be next, but Lear is incapable of objectivity.

>2015

Well less "worked" as in it went exactly as planned, and more "worked" as in it did some good.

Oh yeah I know, Clrs wasn't one of the worst managers for board "relations" for nothin'. But I betcha Goat would kill for that level of interaction.

This "man" doesn't believe /w/ is an anime board.

Reminder that, of all things, the one thing your autistic commissioner is so fussy about, to the point of tears, to the point of having a breakdown, to the point of leaving the website for a full week and lie about it and let his underlings get the blame, is a fucking animu wallpaper board.

Not even animu, animu wallpaper, no discussions, just random pictures of animu grill you could grab off google image and a good booru.

And you laugh at /mlp/ for being autistic...

Coincidentally, /w/'s culling would make /mlp/ avoid the Fetus, wouldn't it?

No.

I dunno.I just want /bant/ and /trash/ in.
Fuck Lear's weeb bias.

Logo results when?

I think it'd save /b/.

If we end up doing the same thing as Spring and throw /soc/ in for 12 team Fetus, 9 promote with the "winner" being pot 3 then no.

>/bant/
I'm honestly not so against this after seeing them play earlier on Sou's stream. Better than some boxhead teams.

Reminder that, of all things, the one thing /4ccg/ is so fussy about, to the point of tears, to the point of having a breakdown, to the point of leaving the website for a full week and lie about it and let his underlings get the blame, is a fucking garbage can board.

Not even shitposting, actual trash, no discussions, just random pictures of furry porn you could grab off google image and a e261.

And you laugh at /mlp/ for being autistic...

it's e621 you dumbass

That's why people were (still are) so pissed. Lear announced the cull, explained the reasoning behind who would stay and who would go, then gave a list of culled teams that all had more native board interest than /w/. Then, since summer teams (!) got culled, /w/ was going to get promoted. No big woop.

Lear will never admit that the cull was a total clusterfuck and abortion of logic, but he won't do the right thing and cull /w/ either. It blows my mind that he got away with it.

The /bant/ manager is the most desperate fuck I have ever seen.

Reminder that, of all things, the one thing everyone's so fussy about, to the point of tears, to the point of having a breakdown, to the point of leaving the website for a full week and lie about it and let his underlings get the blame, is a fucking bad western cartoon porn board.

Not even good porn, >Shadman, no discussions, just random pictures of poor art you could grab off deviantart and a bad rule 34 site.

And you laugh at /mlp/ for being autistic...

The cull was a good idea.

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>/m-merit/ agreed with me and knew what I was doing!
>all those /merit/ people who came to the thread and said they had no fucking idea what was going on

Don't lie. It's not like this happened a hundred years ago and nobody remembers it anymore.

/c/ didn't do anything for a year so they got singled out. Before we did that in /merit/ we agreed what we'd do if the teams failed to do reach out at all. We honestly expected more teams than /trv/ would be able to actually do something.

Someone post the SDA and RHS chat logs.

Anyone in Pot 3 dying saves /b/, /mlp/ would possibly be saved but then again current /merit/ has a MASSIVE hate boner for /mlp/ (like /a/, to the point where they're definitely not above fucking them over for any reason they feel like deserved or otherwise) and they finished second to last of Spring >being the first team eliminated so they'd probably still be part of some 8/5 meme. Anyone who follows /mlp/ and has a brain (which is probably like 2 people /ourboy/ MagicBlue included but still) should expect them to play fetus matches

Reminder that, of all things, the one thing /4ccg/ is so fussy about, to the point of tears, to the point of having a breakdown, to the point of shitposting the thread for a full year and lie about it and let his underlings get the blame, is video games on stream.

Not even cartoons, video games, no dead air, just playing video games where you could turn off the stream and easily ignore it.

And you laugh at /mlp/ for being autistic...

What you fail to understand, sweetie, is that /c/'s polls don't count and /w/'s do.

Why is /a/ in pot 2 of fetus when we finished above Veeky Forums?

Another post and another lack of an answer. Bravo, leaf.

A couple placements were fucked up originally. Check the wiki it's been fixed for a while

Blame Wingman.

The reason that /c/ were singled out was because they hadn't ran a poll at all in a year. That's the answer.

>/c/ has always been the hot weeb bandwagon for people who don't get enough tastes of failure from just supporting /a/ and that seems to be their main purpose to exist since there's never been a voice from the board itself to support the team.

That doesn't answer why teams with more proven board interest than /w/ were culled and /w/ was spared.

Childish shit like this in official announcements, and it's not the first time, really turn me off the cup. I don't waste time hanging out with people that irritate me in real life, why do that here?

>We honestly expected more teams than /trv/ would be able to actually do something.
And now they're all back except /t/ and /adv/.
How come /p/ were culled for their management putting in effort for contacting the board and got no interest in Spring and it was fine for /w/ to do the same and get the same results?
>/c/ didn't do anything for a year so they got singled out.
My memory might be a bit hazy but didn't /wg/ do nothing for a year too, or close to that?

So /c/ was punished for having a lazy as fuck manager... by not being allowed to participate except in autopilot mode? That was the plan?

>this coming from the team who was the only weeb bandwagon in spring 16 (when their last good threads were, coincidentally)

>throws bear under the bus
>now attempts to throw there the rest of /merit/ despite of them saying otherwise
Just admit that you want to disband the group and rule on your own.

that ain't even a good pape

>a lazy as fuck manager.
Who was already retiring before the Cull no less.

The /c/ cull was a mistake that got reversed. /c/ and /h/ were only in the whitelist because managers.

>Throws bear under the bus
>Bear retires
It's almost like the Leaf is toxic.

/w/ didn't get the warning. As for the warning refer to SDA and RHS.

Reminder

Verified by the Leaf itself!

You'll notice "I made a mistake" is never part of Lear's explanation of events.

Still laughing over the claim that everybody in /merit/ knew and agreed with Lear when Boris, Sou, and Smugleaf all came out of the woodwork to say they had no clue /w/ was getting spared or why. Smugleaf leaked that Lear was left in charge to decide /w/'s fate and that nobody in /merit/ looked into it.

When things blew up, f4r leaked that Lear was fuming mad, bitched about SDA in particular, then disappeared for a week.

But hey, everybody was on board!

Forgot about that, although as you said with SDA and RHS it was vague. Still though, /merit/ should have noticed something was wrong when they analysed all the teams and saw /w/ do worse than some of the warned teams were.

Because when /merit/ was deciding what counted as interest we decided that getting poll responses was good enough even if they didn't get posts. The teams that were culled either hadn't posted any polls on the board in a long time (/out/, /c/, /t/, /adv/, /trv/) or had something really funky with when they did try (/y/ not polling the board in their most recent poll, /p/ polling a /p/ discord over the board). What /w/ had was recent and what we at the time felt was good enough so they weren't singled out.

>How come /p/ were culled for their management putting in effort for contacting the board and got no interest in Spring and it was fine for /w/ to do the same and get the same results?
Because we felt poll responses from polls posted on the board were good enough wwhen we decided that.
>/wg/
Smugleaf checked them no idea there but they ran a poll after Spring out of fear so not the worst end.

Yes. As /out/ is currently showing the team being autopilot is mostly to give /merit/ oversight so that the lapses that caused the team to get to that state weren't going to repeat.

When cull was conducted, /wg/ had absolutely nothing in terms of polls or threads with POI in 1.5 years. But hey, they are wallpaper board, so they deserve special treatment, am I right?

>getting poll responses was good enough even if they didn't get posts
brb making a thread on /hr/ and faking 8 poll responses
I'll call myself Anonymous Boat

>made corner cancer even worse by keeping HA and banning the best line of defense against corners (HA keepers)
>tried to force one of his favorite teams into Summer despite their idiot manager going 30 (thirty) full minutes past de adline without even knowing there was one
>managed /w/ to a grand total of three wins in four cups, never promoted until he had a poor sap to shadowmanage for (Goat), and even then has won exactly 1 (one) elite cup match
>anything and everything related to the cull except for maybe putting /t/ out of their misery
Name one thing Lear's done right ever. You can't say banning MayDave because even that he did three years too late.

>Smugleaf checked them no idea there but they ran a poll after Spring out of fear so not the worst end.
>trusting the one guy in the current cup as openly biased towards /wg/ as you are to check them
Good idea!

>getting poll responses was good enough even if they didn't get posts.
/wg/'s last poll was Autumn 15 and in the meantime they had missed a cup's deadline (and you wanted them to play anyways because "who cares about the rules lmao")
Makes you think

Yup.

>We
But 25% of /merit/ is dead and had no idea the cull was even a thing and another 25% said publicly they were not aware of /w/ getting a pass despite the abject lack of interest in threads. Smugleaf said you were in charge of deciding about /w/ and that's the most it was ever discussed. Who's lying, you or everyone else in /merit/?

>Because we felt poll responses from polls posted on the board were good enough wwhen we decided that.
How many responses did those teams get, I seem to remember that they were similar in numbers responding to the polls.
Add me in for another 10 too, I'll be Bman.

>banning MayDave
>implying Lear even did that when an user triggered MayPedo so hard he admitted to cheating

I feel that /t/ deserved a better fate. Even if they had a boring ass roster and crashed the game because of their kits, they were successful in their early days, along with /i/, another small market team. If you can't get fans, that's your issue. How does /wg/ and /gd/ get their fans? Because of success.

Reminder this thread was the proof used for /w/ having support:
archive.nyafuu.org/w/thread/2000673/#2000673
Hence why "poll responses were good enough."

>not liking the board. If your team depends on wins to stay alive, fuck off

Canadians are not to be trusted. Free my nigga Pybro

Pybro tried to make that team get going, but just saw little success. Imagine if they did play this summer over Veeky Forums. What could've happened?

/i/ actually kept a steady fanbase (new manager just got verified baby) despite being trash, because Rillion actually gives enough of a shit to talk to the board and Pybro never did. There's a reason /t/ (I guess /adv/ too?) were the only team whose cull status went completely unchallenged.

There is a difference between being a total lardass with your team and being like rillion. /i/ has endless possibilities because it's a creative board, and you can swap out rosters quite easily with new players. They're a fun team to watch really. You can have success on both sides, but pybro did little to grow that fanbase in /t/, even if it's tiny.

There's a 7/9 chance that at least two of the big 3 will meet each other in the Foetus.

>/mlp/ versus /pol/ fetus

This should be fun to watch. But if the groups are just three, then it could be unlikely. We also can have the old firm as a possible matchup

Lear, you can make everyone happy if you just revive teams and give us the MEGA BABBY.

Lear, defend this.
>Oh shit, I want to kill teams with no board interest, but that will kill the sock I jerk off into
>"Alright everybody, we're going to ignore board cup threads as evidence of interest and instead allow teams to live based on poll results. But not /c/'s."

plz consider putting /bant/ and /trash/.

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So who would you want back? /3/? /hm/? /diy:?

When the Montreal Expos come back sometime in Never Ever, /trash/ will be an official non-spoon boss team

>"Managers were warned that if they did not make a thread, their team would be culled. They all understood clearly what was at stake."

Lear, buddy, why do you lie and lie and lie?

/adv/ , /bant/ and /hm/

Montreal could come back. Should be Hartford because their city can't even get an actual team because of bankruptcy

They have both fucked up here. SDA with admitting that he ran the poll exclusively on discord and with not reaching to the board, and Lear with not saying outright that it's the matter of life and death for /y/. Just replace SDA with competent manager and replace Lear with competent commisioner, and we will be all set