/haniho/ - Alicesoft/Rance General

Am I suppose to be winning by such a small margin against pic related? Am I underleveled? I started the fight with max SP and barrier.

I cheated the whole way through, so I couldn't say.

>Mermaid
Centaur would be the more applicable term.

As long is it isn't a Minotaur spider, I'm good.

>He doesn't like spider cows
What, don't like back breaking SNU SNU?

If you play normally, you will be so precisely balanced to win.
All of your stats need to be necessarily higher than the boss to win.

>If you play normally, you will be so precisely balanced to win.
Sorry, what?

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cute Sill

Sill a cute!

I find it entertaining that outside of religious circles, Sill is one of the best healers on the continent. Most of the healers we see in Rance VI are some random schoolgirls that can only heal and can't do anything else. You'd think that some general would have a second in command that's able to heal wounds to their entire army in one fell swoop or something. As for the JAPANese, I'm not sure what the Miko do to heal in Sengoku Rance considering that they only have very basic magical knowledge and their most powerful offensive mages are able to summon paper to attack their enemies.

It's in part due to her ridiculously high level cap for sure. The wiki puts her level cap at 80, which means there are only three humans alive who have higher level caps (RSG, Annis, and Arios).

She's not particularly strong (with only Lv1 Skills) but she's been casting Healing nearly every day, often saving someone from certain death (typically after they've been cut by Rance), so she has probably reached her peak skill there.

I wouldn't be surprised if Rance commanded for example Crook to teach Sill how to heal better at some point, he does this to for example Kanami in SR in a hopeless attempt to make her competent (something he's been trying to do at least since VI, what an upstanding and kind spirited guy gahahahaa).

That seems to be just a bias because we see her around a lot healing. Many characters have Divine Magic 1, and a few have higher than that.

Arios doesn't have cap 100 anymore.

I guess I should update the wiki then. What is it, then, and when was this changed?

>if we don't count everyone that specialises in healing, Sill is the best healer

When he stopped being a hero. Every hero has the level cap of 99.

>Sill's hair has only been bearable in KR and SR

You forgot Rance.

It looks okay in IX and X.

Guys, do you think an android port of sengoku Rance would be possible to do?

Sill is a better healer than Prima, and that's her specialization.

When one becomes a hero they get a 99 cap. When they reach 20 and lose the hero powers, their cap returns to the original value.

We don't klnow what is Arios cap now, but likely is low because we learned that even thought he tried training a lot, he still wasn't able to do much.

Prima is like a paramedic who has to use things like bandages to treat people, in a world where healing magic exist. Being better than Prima is obvious.

I'm looking forward to the day that once of Rance's descendants becomes a hero and his level cap goes down to 99 from infinity until he's 20 years old. The rest of his family makes fun of him by throwing lucky Kyan Kyans at him that serve him no purpose.

There's an android port of KR

That's because there's a GPL'd version of System3. No such thing for System4.

Prima isn't a healer, she's not even able to cast magic. Her class in Quest is Civilian, even.

It's good in 01 and 03 too.

Prima doesn't have even have a skill level on medical treatment, let alone Divine Magic, so that's not exactly impressive.

Sill is better than every single healer native to Zeth shown in Rance VI, that should be a sticking point.

He's a level 2 so it's possible that his cap is also really high, though most definitely lower than 99.

>Sill is better than every single healer native to Zeth
Name three. You can't because that many healers weren't even shown, except the ones from AL Church that you omitted because you're desperate to make Sill look better than she really is.

>He's a level 2
That doesn't say anything about his level cap

It's not mandatory but usually level 2s have high caps, hell every sword lv2 has a cap of 70 or more.

Since when is being the best from a country not good enough? Considering an entire country was being decimated throughout the game, if there were any powerful healers in the country, they should have shown up to help the army like when the ice general was assisting the assholes when they decided to hold up together, when the king of Zeth decided to go save Rizna in a city infested with monsters, when basically all survivors from the capital fled towards Leazas, etc... I can't be blamed for Alicesoft not having a single notable healer shown and it is always possible that Sill is one of the only notable healers in Zeth.

>Since when is being the best from a country not good enough?
Since you're establishing your headcanon as a fact.
> if there were any powerful healers in the country, they should have shown up to help the army like when the ice general was assisting the assholes when they decided to hold up together
Who says there weren't? If anything the fact that they managed to hold the territory for that long with 0 meat shields suggests that they had medical assistance.
> when the king of Zeth decided to go save Rizna in a city infested with monsters, when basically all survivors from the capital fled towards Leazas, etc
None of that suggest that there are no healers at all.
>I can't be blamed for Alicesoft not having a single notable healer shown
There are in the AL Church but you're blamed for ignoring their existance. It's a fact that many people that have aptitude with healing magic join the church, so if you just you don't count them you're being retarded. It's like saying "wow if you don't those that practice boxing that guy is probably maybe one of the best boxers in the world!".

I'm only excluding Sel and Crook since they aren't from Zeth. Show me a competent member of the church who was born and raised in Zeth that is a better healer than Sill and I'll concede the point.

They also didn't show farmers, fuck Zeth is gonna starve to death now.
They didn't show them so they can't exist is a really silly argument user.

Just because not many Zethan healers weren't shown it doesn't mean they don't exist. You were the one that claimed that she was better than every healer in Zeth, not me.

If we judged based on VI then it would be fair to assume that Annis is the only Lv3 mage in Zeth since they're super fucking rare, but nope, Miracle exists. And that's a Lv3, you seriously think that there aren't many people with Divine Magic Lv1 or Lv2? GTFO.

not him but are you seriously suggesting Sill is a mediocre healer at best?

She has the third highest known level cap in all the continent, is constantly adventuring, and has been involved in incredible epic feats such as defeating Noce, a Toushin, and Kamilla.

Level 80 is absurdly powerful. To claim Sill is a poor healer would basically be arguing against the mechanics of the level system.

You could argue that she's never at her potential, I guess, but I don't see who is more qualified to be at a high level than Sill considering everything she's been involved with.

I didn't say she was mediocre. She's average or maybe a little above average. Certainly not "best of a country" tier.
>has been involved in incredible epic feats such as defeating Noce, a Toushin, and Kamilla.
So has Kanami.

The level 2 in sword is also something all heroes get. we don't know his actual skills.

I was mentioning those to suggest that it's not unreasonable for her to have acquired a lot of experience points and therefore be at a high level with respect to her level cap.

Kanami is pretty much always at her level cap anyway, as far as I can tell

>is constantly adventuring
No, only when Rance can be arsed to do work, which he usually only does when he really needs to. Rance deleveling all the time between games is bound to happen to Sill, too.

>Level 80 is absurdly powerful
Sill never had such a high level

>would basically be arguing against the mechanics of the level system.
Level caps don't mean shit if you don't ever reach them.
Ask that guy with a cap of 120 who still is the weakest mage in your group in IX.
In the viewpoint of the games, Sill doesn't outlevel the ohter healers in the group, but those healers might have higher divine magic skills therefore outshining Sill. And now, even Sel is only mediocre in comparison with her holiness the pope herself. No way any healer can compete with Crook.

Levels go down, even if not as fast as Rance does. Sill's level is always fairly low at the start of each game. Kanami is usually in her 20s or maybe 30s.

Probably a good average is their level in their RWN entry: 28/40 for Kanami and 35/80 for Sill.

Speaking of level caps, considering the state of affairs Sill was in between Sengoku Rance and the end of Rance IX, I wonder if she'll start Rance X being near her max level or if she's be like level 5.

The problem with current level for main and recurrent playable characters, is that their current level at the start will always be whatever is convenient to the system and the time they join, using the fact levels go down or something like what GOD did as the explanation / excuse.

So for example, Shizuka. In games where individual level don't matter that much, she tend to come high level like in SR or IX (story wise was 40 at start), while in RPG like games she tend to be at a lower 20 or so level considering she generally joins at the mid point.

Considering RNW was supposed to be their updated data prior to IX/X, then she was frozen as 35. But 10 months passed before X start so we don't know how it will be now.

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Kanami will go down as the best ninja in history

That's too low considering Sill was three levels below Rance's in Sengoku Rance and Rance started Sengoku Rance at level 40.

Tell that to Alicesoft.

Yeah I'm not the guy arguing she's one of the best healers in the world, that's another guy.

But just before taking down some epic boss? She probably is at least a contender. She's usually about the same level as Rance, which means somewhere in the 60s in VI: Consider that her and rance were able to 2v1 Kamilla at the end of VI.

In the end, just look at the games. For example in 03 she keeps up with Maris who has Divine Lv2.

It also puzzles me that you don't see many mages doing mass heals on the battlefield, but probably only crook could do something like that. We've never seen Maris do it and it would certainly have helped Leazas at some point. Then again, the actions of Maris are mysterious.

In the end her potential is a mixed bag. She's probably pretty close to the peak skill of a Divine Lv1 healer. Her level cap is high, but she spends most of her time feeding rance pickles. She's pretty much the perfect sidekick.

>For example in 03 she keeps up with Maris who has Divine Lv2.
But single target healing is shit in 03. Sill falls behind as soon as you get Sel.

What the fuck is this and why do I feel like it really needs the sound?

I don't know what this is, but I now believe the story that webm uses calculates the difference in image instead of grabbing the whole image every frame because there's no way that a GIF would be under 2MB when it's over a minute and a half long.

Kanami deserves respect for her fantastic job in the middle section of Rance IV.

Yeah that's true that single target healing is shit. Sill doesn't get multi healing until VI, although by all means she should be able to do it since Sel is also Divine Lv1.

I don't know if it's an indicator of her healing strength, though, since it may just be a game design decision on the part of Alicesoft reflecting on how she focuses on healing Rance in particular.

>In the end, just look at the games. For example in 03 she keeps up with Maris who has Divine Lv2.

Sill best heal (if you get her 6th upgrade to the healing Skill) is her magic power x 240%. Maris comes with her healing skill already at that amount, and with her 6th upgrade it goes to magic power x 280%. Also Maris magic that halves the enemy HP is a powerful divine magic that needs level 2.

Considering her height, does Medusa now have the best rack in the game?

if kayblis and medusa are such good friends why don't they fuck

Medusa has a bigger(singular) dick and she's into women, not beta cucks.

My point was that you are a world class healer if you are able to heal the same amount, or even 90%, of what Maris can heal.

Obviously she can't do the Lv2 shenanigans that Maris can, but I don't really know many other Lv2-3 Healers in the setting. Maris, Crook, is that it? Fuuka and Sel are Lv1.

In the end she isn't so much a strong character as she is a reflection of the sheer amount of adventuring that Rance does. Being force fed experience points and dick makes her a force to be reckoned with.

What's bigger, the hyper weapon or medusa's snake dick

If I were to skip most of the H-scenes, how good would Haruka be? I'm increasingly feeling like the H-scenes are getting in the way of gameplay.

Snek dick

Genri

bad

No. That's still Meg.

>My point was that you are a world class healer if you are able to heal the same amount
Not really. There's plenty of trained Lv1s that can compare to Lv2s a little.
And pretty much all the bishops have Lv2 in Divine Magic I believe. There's also Am.

I might not have to if Rance starts Rance X at level 60 or above.

>the story of how webm works
Do you also believe in the tale of oxygen and the parable of gravity?

He's not.

There's a tale about oxygen? I'd be interested to hear it.

Well, he seems to be, pretty early on, climbing the Rising Dragon Mountain with just him and Sill. So maybe a higher starting level.

The highest he's ever been at the start of a game was 40, and level 60 is fucking huge. It's been like a year since IX, no way he actually raised his level when he had no notable adventures. Even keeping his level of 40 would be impressive for him.

Man

KR is such a fucking good game

Holy shit

How is your art going hannies? Because you're drawing right?

No.

What's the "TADA Button" or cheat mode of KR like?

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Trees make it, apparently.

Can you get both Patton+Co and Aristoles+Rolex in KR?

Nope.

Fuck me, I have no suspension of disbelief in this scene. Haruka appears to be talking to herself and yet nobody says anything.

Nobody cares for Haruka.

What's Maris's level cap, out of curiosity?

Close to 70

Sounds like she should have been able to create some massive damage to Helman's forces if she was a reasonable level. What level was she when Rance fought her in Rance 01 and when she joined the party in Rance 03?

Damn.

Maris wisely chooses not to draw attention to herself in such a way