What is the most conservative protestant denomination?

>My mom is a UMC pastor
>women "pastors"

Faithful Word Baptist Church
youtube.com/watch?v=TCIE0vqk6Uo

*faaaaaaaaaaart*

youtube.com/watch?v=VzjapPSj8mQ

Grow a thicker skin and tell em to fuck off

I don't see the problem. That's one of those rules in the Bible that's more Old Testament, like you can't eat shrimp. If someone wants to preach their religion they shouldn't be denied the ability to do so

Southern Baptist Convention

But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
1 Timothy 2:12

they're "lgbt affirming" now

Being a pastor doesn't simply mean preaching, it means ruling the house of God

No Paul forbids it in the NT.
If anything it is a NT teaching

I'm not saying people are right in attacking them, I'm saying that WBC intentionally goads them into doing it to get money. Jesus literally says don't sue people and if someone sues you for your cloak give them your shirt also.

Can I get a source on that? Im a Southern Baptist and I haven't heard anything about that

>it means ruling the house of God

Sounds Old Testament, disagreeable to many. How many vicious cults worked under this doctrine in the United States? All of them basically.

>No Paul forbids it in the NT.

Eh, nobody's perfect.

baptistnews.com/article/baptist-church-votes-to-ok-gay-marriage/#.WBp0j9x7GV4

>Sounds Old Testament, disagreeable to many.
I don't care what sinners find "disagreeable"
>How many vicious cults worked under this doctrine in the United States? All of them basically.
That is an exceptionally dishonest non-argument. How many Inquisitors believed in the Trinity? I'm going to guess all of them, maybe we should get rid of that too?

>Eh, nobody's perfect.
God is

Yeah that's an erroneous and heretical doctrine. I hope he eventually repudiates it.

>conservative
>Protestant

Not him, but...
>I don't care what sinners find "disagreeable"
>1It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery.
Galatians 5:1. Paul was specifically referring to Mosaic Law, comparing it to the yoke of slavery.
>How many Inquisitors believed in the Trinity? I'm going to guess all of them, maybe we should get rid of that too?
but that's kind of a false equivalence, one of those "but even Hitler loved his dog" kind of arguments. When was the last time you saw a fanatical Christian cult being led by a woman duping her parishioners into letting her rape their children?

Says the globalist socialist newworldordite Jesuit Freemason Mulsim-lover papist idolater.

There are a million little denominations that are just one church full of absolute lunatics. So the question has to be what is the most conservative *large* denomination.

That isn't SBC they had to leave the convention because of their heretical teachings.

>eh nobody's perfect
what a terrible argument.
If you throw out anything you don't like scripture becomes meaningless.

>Paul was specifically referring to Mosaic Law, comparing it to the yoke of slavery
That's right. Those who think to be justified by law are anathema. We are not under the law, however
>For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, declares the LORD: I will put my law within them, and I will write it on their hearts. And I will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Jeremiah 31:33
If you do not obey the law, you are not in Christ.
>but that's kind of a false equivalence
No it's not, it's the exact same thing
>one of those "but even Hitler loved his dog" kind of arguments.
Which is literally what he's doing.
>When was the last time you saw a fanatical Christian cult being led by a woman duping her parishioners into letting her rape their children?
When was the last time you saw a non-trinitarian burn someone at the stake?

Presbyterian church in america (PCA). not PCUSA who are liberal apostate sellouts

God bless pastor Keller.

It really depends on what you mean by "conservative." Some denominations are very politically right-wing but not very traditional, whereas some are quite traditional and even resemble apostolic churches but aren't politically very left wing. I would say that Conservative Anglo-Catholics (as in Anglicans who's theology and practices more closely resemble Catholicism) are probably the most traditional.

he is truly a legend in terms of defending conservative Christianity.

>but aren't politically very left wing

I meant to write but are

im an ulster Presbyterian. only the free Presbyterian church is crazy

Amen. He is an excellent apologist and his books strike the perfect balance between readability and content. More churches ought to study them.

Faithful word baptist church

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Faithful_Word_Baptist_Church

lutheran church missouri synod
closed communion where only members of the church can take communion, barred even to other lutherans.
also members are banned from interfaith dialogues and i think members surveyed were the most conservative in america

Amish and mennonites

I'm no expert, but imma go with this.

The most conservative people I've met were Southern Baptist Convention.

this guy is also a holocaust denier btw lol

God doesn't exist. Nothing created the universe and can zap you back to life. It's just as reasnoble for women to help keep your faith alive as science and medicine and physics skins it alive.

Women are more real than God. You can touch a woman, though I doubt you ever have. Maybe that's why you believe what you do.

the newsreporter ended up coming off as a retard

>what a terrible argument.

Argue that a cosmic God that not only created a universe just for us, in such vast scale of wonder and complexirty, that can somehow shoot your "soul" back to life, that can zap mysterious invisible electricity into your "souls" neurons; that this entity is more real than a woman.

Go on. Argue that a universe creating creature that can make everything and bring you back to life is more real than your mother.

You say people have lost faith, but it's you that's lost faith in anything concrete or real.

LCMS
>Think the papacy is the antichrist
>The most appealing protestant denomination to conservative catholics

proofs?

...

Can't deny the truth senpai

Amish.

Prove it is the truth ;^)

time to get saved user

It is logical to say that there is no obserable soul. If we can observe quanta, if we can collide beyond microscopic particles at exactly the same time, and can know that the human body is powered by electricity

How can we not find this magical soul that gets electrocuted back to life by cosmic daddy who built this giant fucking universe that would take longer than it exists ten fold to travel back and forth to it, just for us.

I think, that this is from the reasoning of people at the time obviously, not the reasoning we have now.

FFS, the entire point of the protestant reformation is that literally anyone can be a pastor.

Came here to say this

euphoric

Classic "science of the gaps" canard. Simply because current technology cannot detect a soul it does not follow that there isn't one.

Furthermore your conclusion rests upon the assumption that only things that are detectable by human beings exist. Care to provide evidence to prove this claim?

It's beyond that. I can assume, sure, some deity of some sort could create the universe we live in.

The fault lies in the complexity that it also resurrects the dead electrically through extremely dubious unknowable process to magic cosmic candy land.

Once you get into the second part it just is too much for me to believe in. It needed to simple down, not try and explain everything God does, it just creates gaps and holes and problems. Like what life is resurrected.

Do I get to see my poor dead frog again? The unfortunate truth is user, I probably won't. And you won't see anything on the other side either. You will be reverted to how you felt before you were born. Which is, essentially, the calm oblivion of nothing.

In other words you cannot prove your claim, the alternative is simply "too much for you to believe."

I figured as much.

>In other words you cannot prove your claim

I did

>this is from the reasoning of people at the time obviously, not the reasoning we have now.

Oh my, you better get CNN on the phone and let them know you think you've definitively proven the non-existence of the soul. This is big news and people will want to know about it!

>Oh my, you better get CNN on the phone and let them know you think you've definitively proven the non-existence of the soul

Ok?

What are you waiting for?

You to go on CNN to prove that cosmic papa exists and will bring be back to life from brain death

My good gentlesir, you seem to have misunderstood the concept of "faith." You see Christians understand that we cannot prove the supernatural elements of our doctrine yet we choose to believe in them anyway because we do not require empirical evidence for everything we believe in.

Now you may mock us all you like and call us all sorts of demeaning names because we hold this view but we are quite used to it and are even forewarned by the holy scriptures that such mockery is to be expected.

I have faith that when you're close to death you won't care if God exists or not.

Southern Baptist

duh

Medical marijuana is ok, and trans people aren't harming anyone so no need to pick on them.

That's a rather peculiar belief to hold considering that many people come to believe in God after having close encounters with death.

However you are entitled to have faith in whatever you please regardless of its peculiarity.

Either way I have other matters to attend to so I must bid you good evening.

May God bless you.

>That's a rather peculiar belief to hold considering that many people come to believe in God after having close encounters with death.

The phenomenon is described in high speed jet pilots too. When enough oxygen is deprived of the brain, the vision blurs out and begins to see light at the center and focuses in on it.

It's explained and tested, reproduced phenomenon. Nothing supernatural about it.

>May God bless you.

I'd rather be blessed by someone else than that douche. I'm sure she exists.

pretty liberal compared to some

horeshit how

No, it's not, fuck off

I think people should ask more questions about Paul, honestly.

There is so much that doesn't add up about his theology. And his claim that "Jesus totally appeared to me in the woods with special instructions" is fishy. Why wouldn't God use his three year ministry to give his teaching? Why would he wait to appear to Paul in the woods after he died with the "actual teachings"? Then there is the fact that the three accounts of this encounter are all different, and there is a lot more.

Anyway, I'm not saying "throw Paul away", but most people take everything he says as gospel, and I don't know if I trust him, honestly. Saul of Tarsus is a fishy character. An argument could be made that he in fact is an infiltrator, and is the result of the first seal of Revelation. The rider with a bow on the white horse. His teachings are a big source of confusion in Christian theology, by my judgment. If his letters were removed, it would just be Gospels that point you to Torah and the importance of living righteously. With him, there is a lot of wiggle room with "works", "faith", and "grace." And he can be rather confusing in a Pharisacal way.

>Why wouldn't God use his three year ministry to give his teaching? Why would he wait to appear to Paul in the woods after he died with the "actual teachings"?
He didn't?
>Then there is the fact that the three accounts of this encounter are all different, and there is a lot more.
'no'
>Anyway, I'm not saying "throw Paul away", but most people take everything he says as gospel
That's because it is
>and I don't know if I trust him
The reason is you hate God
>An argument could be made that he in fact is an infiltrator
No, it couldn't
>His teachings are a big source of confusion in Christian theology
No, they aren't
>it would just be Gospels that point you to Torah
Christ fulfilled the torah. Read Hebrews
>With him, there is a lot of wiggle room with "works", "faith", and "grace."
No, there isn't
Watch this youtube.com/watch?v=VRI8nLuwn-A

to be fair if there wasnt wiggle room, there wouldnt be so many denominations with different views on salvation

Dutch Reformist.

>he thinks the soul is somehow beholden to physics and is an electrical reaction.
I don't pretend to understand the complexities of God's creation but holy hell you're trying to apply physical properties to that which doesn't have it

>id rather be blessed by someone else not that douche
And we come to the root of all atheism (or at least reddit tier atheism).

Hatred of the divine probably brought about by feelings of shame and inequity.

wow interesting shame is to blame for hatred of the divine. So the compulsive need to humble yourself before a more potent male father figure dom comes from pride then?

>need to humble yourself comes from pride

youtube.com/watch?v=-rhGMCYWqKI

Is the sarcasm not obvious?

>denying the official narrative = denying that the event happened

hmmm...

is the irony not obvious?

>denying

yes, thats the key word. Thats what a holocaust denier does

"holocaust" is simply a greek word that means "burnt offering" and is used in the contemporary sense to denote a large scale slaughter.

pastor anderson doesn't deny that many jews were slaughtered by the nazi regime.

There aren't

I went to a Southern Baptist Church in Alabama for a little while, but the preacher kept preaching about racism, and one time talked about White privilege.

Trivializing the Holocaust which is what our beloved pastor is doing in the video is a part of Holocaust denial

If I take off the mask, would she die?

I didn't know postulating that perhaps the holocaust wasn't the most horrific thing to ever happen in world history and that the narrative surrounding the holocaust contains exaggerations for political purposes was equivalent to "trivializing" it.

They are not conservative. Their credo is not based on tradition. It's like saying that nazis were conservative while they were in fact utterly modern.

youtube.com/watch?v=qGE8GBQ9cuM