Today's only esports are going on here. SFT vs Vega Mouz vs MoF Vega vs Empire
Adrian Morris
>inb4 windranger guy
Julian Kelly
post best girls
Gavin Brown
>Wake up >No patch
Dominic Gomez
based forced niggermeme bro
Josiah Turner
dont talk shit about MALCOM X fck faggot
Carson Flores
who?
Logan White
>le paper grill >not waifu-ing strong amazonian commander
Lucas Kelly
any white man in ?
Leo Rodriguez
anglo boys reporting in
Nathaniel Harris
pakis need not apply
Leo Gonzalez
Weaver is the best offlaner.
Isaac Green
post hands
Owen Thompson
1-11 days till patch+Fall compendium. Who hype here?
Alexander Baker
Is there ever a situation in which you would want to pick drow? Every single game I hover over her but pick someone else because anyone with blink or shadowblade melee fuck her over hard
Sebastian Hernandez
Only in a stack of players who know how to close a game quickly.
Otherwise 9/10 your solo pub pisses away their early game drow advantage and you lose the game.
Jason Bennett
when your supports are good early or you have a non late game carry mid or some shit
drow is someone who buffs your team early to allow you to snowball and avoid your disadvantage of having poor late game / bad farmers.
Nathan Ward
...
Ethan Young
drow safe and a strong rightclick hero like weaver mid is really strong, at least until low 5k
Elijah Green
>rtz playing league
n-no
Alexander Parker
for more then 6 hours, dead game confirmed
Nicholas Gutierrez
fuck off reddit.
Jaxson Ramirez
so in what the duck podcast they basically sent a low key fuck off to grant and his fans about the whole streaming tournaments. Im eager to know how he will figure it out now that he is with EG.
Luke Nguyen
I think I saw ben wu in stockholm today. we'll see if he's on memeleague
Gabriel Cruz
Did he stream it user ?
Isaiah Moore
he's kind of technically in the right. he isn't the problem, the problem is that with the current rules esports producers can't protect their content. he profits off of that, but he didn't cause it.
Aiden Jenkins
Blitz is on memeleague this week
Nathaniel White
no but mason streamed lol few days ago, they playing together i guess
Parker Nguyen
>fat miserable weeb plays league honestly not even surprised
Brayden Fisher
that must've been it
Jaxson Morris
? The old rules said that the tournament organizers owned the casting and camerawork that they provided though?
Samuel Phillips
Will Dota ever be free of the might of the Guild of Team Assassins? RTZ, Bulba, PPD, and Pajkatt?
Hunter Roberts
grant doesn't use their casting and camerawork. valve owns the game. grant gets to use the game freely. the problem is that that means that, on principle, I can start a studio and cast all BTS games, and if I'm good they can't do shit about it.
Benjamin Reed
old "rules" >you can cast from dota tv, if you have the ticket provided new 17-18 contract >you can only cast if you have lobby access
Valve hereby grants to Licensee a revocable, nontransferable, non-exclusive license to use and display the Game, solely for use by Tournament participants and/or Licensee’s agents in connection with the Tournaments, during the Term (except as provided in (d) and (e)), and in the Territory. The following activities are expressly within the scope of this license grant: (a) operation, use, and broadcasting of the Game at the Tournament; and (b) promotion of the Game at the Tournament; (c) live online transmission or broadcast of the Tournament, via streaming or television; (d) retransmission of the Tournament online, during and after the Term, or (e) television rebroadcast, news, or documentary inclusion of up to 4 minutes of game-play per hour program, during and after the Term. Except for the additional rights granted Licensee herein, access to the Game will be governed by the Steam Subscriber Agreement.
>Valve hereby grants to Licensee a revocable, nontransferable, non-exclusive license to use and display the Game, solely for use by Tournament participants and/or Licensee’s agents in connection with the Tournaments >(c) live online transmission or broadcast of the Tournament, via streaming or television; (d) retransmission of the Tournament online, during and after the Term
Thomas Lopez
illidan bought midas as 7-0 ck
Lucas Cruz
would you rather be coached by waga, bsj or purge
Aaron Mitchell
How is this a problem?
Luke Brooks
So if I watch it in game, that's fine? If I project it on the wall and invite a dozen friends over, that's okay? If I publicize the projection event, get two hundred people to show up, nobody can stop me? But if I then start telling people what's going on in the game, valve police will shoot my dog? That's fucked up.
as it should be whats "BTS game" even supposed to mean. do you just mean the bo3 currently on that channel?
Nolan Howard
why did they give illidan ck? what happens when sft faces a real team like newbee?
Nathaniel Howard
oy vey
Hunter Torres
purge is probably a commie; bsj looks like a mormon; waga is a cuck.
ill pass
Gabriel Morales
>picking CK vs shaker lol
Noah Cook
>bsj looks like a mormon sounds like redeeming quality
David Johnson
>bsj coaching fun tier
>purge coaching retard whos still bad at the game after playing it competitively for seven years straight not ok tier
>waga coaching good advice good teacher
Nathan Gray
it means that you can't invest in esports, meaning there won't be any 3rd party esports. the money they make they make from ads. If no one is watching your stream of your LAN then you don't make money. It makes an investment in an esports event completely uncertain.
Evan Turner
as you can see its a statement of a fact, so judgment was implied, you dont need to insert your insecurities into it
waga is a fgagot bsj seems decently good as articulating his thoughts and convey to someone who has never thought about something particular in game purge is probably the best at coaching but his gameunderstanding seems liumited
Lincoln Brown
>jungle
Ryan James
>My boy CK is becomnig meta >Pros still blindly going armlet+echo 90% of the time instead of armlet->deso
William Flores
So basically it's an excuse for tournaments not to provide the highest standard casting?
Angel Sullivan
>retard whos still bad at the game after playing it competitively for seven years straight >not ok tier sounds like this should apply to waga too
Thomas Carter
people would only watch 3rd party streams if they were better than the studios like BTS do they really deserve to make money from sponsors/ads if they can't even use that money to provide a better product?
Mason Clark
t. 2k
Carter Hughes
yes but hes still better than purge just saying waga is the best out of those 3 by far
Parker Kelly
Shaker is overrated. He's only great if he can blink into the phantasm, which means your positioning was shit, or your team didn't damage him to disable blink. The actual annoying heroes to play against as CK are >Medusa (aghs wrecks you) >Sven (lmao aoe armour) >Axe (armour+true spin) >Phoenix (illusions don't coutn as egg hits) >PL (out-illusions you)
Austin Brooks
>building flat dmg on illu hero just for -armor memes hello 2k mmr
Andrew Fisher
you make good points but isnt this usually the point where people just come up with other formats to get their milkmoney
Grayson Reyes
>make bakery cake >also make it rancid shit >nobody buys it, commercial failure >everyone agrees this is right and proper, next time don't make such an abhorrent cake >make esports >also make them rancid shit >wtf y u no watch my stream? gib ad revenue volvo fix dis >everyone agrees you are totally correct, corporations deserve protection from their own incompetence
Gabriel Bennett
>Needing illusions for teamfight isntead of constantly killing people
Nathan Flores
yes medusa is a downer you literally cant use ulti in teamfights if the medusa saves the snake bit annoying as the whole hero revolves around it
Jeremiah Gomez
it's a fair enough point that it takes the preassure off of them as far as producing quality casting, at least until competition grows more fierce, but it remains the case that on principle esports producers have to compete for the spoils of their own work. if that's how this is going to work then they aren't going to produce tournaments.
Jayden Morris
what is up members and confidents of the non-human gulag
Easton Morales
then build shadow blade if you want to kill stuff solo you retard
Aaron Evans
What heroes other than necro should be reworked with guild wars II skills?
Austin Gray
Okay Mr Gorman thank you for correcting me.
Brayden Richardson
it's the principle luv, it makes revenue streams completely impossible to predict
Jaxon Russell
>er spielt dota
Jackson Morris
>stomp enemy mid 3-0 >transition your lead into other lanes going 8-1
lose game
ill paypal anyone $50 (100% serious) if they can teach me how to actually win on this hero reliably
post your steam and ill be in touch
Cooper Bailey
Pretty sad SFTe won't get a chance at this tournament. Even the series they lost were really fucking close.
Parker Harris
if esports are to be a thing then the situation we have, which grant is profiting off of, is not sustainable.
John Mitchell
you don't
queef of pain is a hero for players who don't know they're bad mids
Jackson Barnes
Why make content people actually want to watch when you can just use your money and connections to just change the system to stamp out any potential competition so you're the only provider and don't have to waste money improving broadcast standards? Do you even capitalism?
Evan Baker
Killing enemy heroes doesn't mean your team is ahead
Nicholas Robinson
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Zachary Evans
Where are the proofs?
Juan Davis
>i love playing dota
Colton Sullivan
>I want to move into this newly formed industry with very few regulations or standards that has not been carefully explored and is still growing, shifting and changing literally every day to the point where it's impossible to predict what the field will look like three months from now >but I don't like risk tho weak numales need not apply
Jason Murphy
Reminder that Valve will try to cage peruvians and russians and it won't help because at that point only third worlders are left.
Should've been done 3 years ago.
William Sanders
yes it is if BTS wants grants viewers they should hire grant or provide a better stream than him
Gabriel Martinez
>aufwachen >kein patch
Gabriel James
>peruvians and other shitskins play on US servers because they fucking hate playing with eachother >white people leave >they start to realize they're primarily playing with eachother again >They start to leave too
ayyy lmao
Jaxson Barnes
anyone else happy to see this man finally back on a good tier 2.5 team? no more EPG / fantastic five bullshit
Benjamin Collins
I'm gonna be surprised if this team doesn't make it to at least 1 major this year.
Matthew Anderson
someone please post wholesome luna art
pic unrelated
Asher Price
That said, there are games when echo sabre is better than deso. It's just that pretty often it isn't either.
Ian Murphy
let me guess your rush scepter or at least buy it somewhere in your build fucking stop doing that and buy good items instead depending on the game and abuse your splitpushing ability
Adam Jenkins
Here the russians play on EU west to "stomp" some europeans but then they realize out of 10 players 9 are russian and they just flame each other in their stupid runes like usual.
Jaxon Ross
this hero is cursed by "win lane lose game" harder than any hero in the game right now
don't even bother playing it, i'm 5.8k and can't even win on this hero on my 2.1k smurf more than 60% of the time
i'd lie to you and take your money, but this is the sad truth
Kevin Davis
I believe you know where I'm coming from at this point, and I still believe I'm right.
Brody Roberts
Syndstack vs mouz should be an amusing match
Jacob Jenkins
>a romanian boy sees pizza for the first time in his 3rd world life
Hunter Cook
this lmfao
literally a thirdie containment exe
Zachary Thomas
how do i upvote this meme XD based reddit bro using green frog
Bentley Wood
literally shot beer out of my nose
Aaron Evans
so fucking furious sekrit clubber gigaNEETs will never ever EVER get over the fact that pepe is the face of the four chins
Juan Garcia
scepter is garbage, i've tried quite literally everything including (obviously) the standard veil->euls/orchid