What is Veeky Forums opinion on Gadaffi?

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Fucking with the US is never, ever a wise idea.

Also, "Arab socialism" is just code for "give my friends oil money" that every Arab country with oil does.

dindu nuffin wronk

his last speech before the UN was pretty good

he also drove the NYPD crazy when refused to stay in a hotel and wanted to sleep in a tent instead like a true Bedouin™

you tell me

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Brave

tried to eject from the global gold standard like germany

>Also, "Arab socialism" is just code for "give my friends oil money" that every Arab country with oil does.
Are you retarded or meming? Gaddafi made life better for the lower classes and made a middle class for the first time ever. Compare that to Saudi, Qatar, Bahrain and other oil Emirates which treat their citizens as serfs.

He got in a fight with the wrong man at the time.

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Kinda looks like my dad desu

This

Nigga just had to do it, but then again he would've entered some Syria-tier bullshit if he didnt

>Compare that to Saudi, Qatar, Bahrain and other oil Emirates which treat their citizens as serfs.
>and he's the one accusing me of being a retarded memer

If you're looking for serfs, you need to look for the Flips and so on that they have building all the buildings and doing all the actual work.

Every Arab country that can uses their oil money on political patronage.

Which, to be fair, is a better strategy than what Venezuela and Nigeria do with theirs.

But if you think Qaddafi was a good leader, you're going to shit yourself when you see what Norway does with their oilbux.

This isn't rocket surgery.

not him but the way Saudi Arabia redistributes oil monies can't even compare to all of the shit Gaddafi did for his people

>But if you think Qaddafi was a good leader

He may not be in the First World sense, but he was multitudes better than those Saudi dipshits

It can.

I know people from Kuwait, the regime will literally fly you to Germany free of charge to get surgery if you have medical problems.

In Saudi Arabia, essentially everyone has some kind of government "job."

The oil/welfare state is universal in the Arab world, or at least the parts that have oil money. It's a natural extension of patronage politics.

>Libya
>stupid enough to have his own intelligence service blow up a disco with a bunch of American soldiers in it
>stupid enough that when he gets bombed for doing this, he blows up a passenger airline and pays Hezbollah to hang a bunch of British hostages

>Saudi Arabia
>not stupid enough to do any of those things

except saudis funds terrorists all the time but they are good goys enough for america to accept it

>Saudi Arabia
>stupid enough in not even beating a bunch of Shi'ite sandniggers south even when armed and trained by the most powerful nation in current days

>>Saudi Arabia
>>not stupid enough to do any of those things

>what is al-quaeda
>what is 9/11
>what is spreading their cancerous cult

Libya's mistake was opposing the petrodollar.

What part of "got caught" do you not get?

If you want to get away with things, sell the US things that they need, and hire lobbyists in Washington.

The Saudis may not be rocket scientists, but they know to pay for friends when they need them.

KSA revolves around a complex system of getting the local princeling to like you and do you favors which you are expected to return, Libya had a legit welfare state with clear rules and a functional bureaucracy though

How not to be a fucking dictator.

Nigger burnt so many Bridges, the world just stood by and was happy to see him go.

Look at Assad in Syria. Bro of the US and acted like a normalfaggot country so when the rebellion hit them, there were still entities that considered him legitimate.

He was better than first world leaders.

>Bro of the US
And they turned on him, just like they turned on Sadaam.
Even if Gaddafi had been a Saudi tier pawn they'd still have wanted him dead sooner or later.

>the world just stood by
heh, but I still see your point.
I wonder how buttblasted he is right now after the EU pretty much is holding the UK cause of "muh legal techinicalities".

Brah, Gaddafi pissed off everyone.

>pissed off France by invading Chad
>pissed off England by opening fire from their embassy and killing a policewoman
>pissed off the US by blowing up their soldiers in discos
>alienated the rest of the Arab world by telling the countries that had actually gone to war with Israel that they need to just try harder, when he's sitting in the middle of Africa far away from the conflict

theyre delaying the inevitable tbqh

its probably going to be a watered down version of what he hoped

He said if they actually go full retard in Parliament hes going to unretire, AGAIN

>implying
Parliament have to vote on it, there is almost no chance they'd ever refuse for one because a majority are conservative MPs and a lot of labour MPs were for leave and for two because if they refused it UKIP would jump to 20% at least until it was sorted.

He's probably preparing for the inevitable snap election, in which the UKIP will gobble up all the Labour districts that voted Leave. The Brexit shitshow has only just begun.

>>alienated the rest of the Arab world by telling the countries that had actually gone to war with Israel that they need to just try harder, when he's sitting in the middle of Africa far away from the conflict
Based fucking Gaddafi.

>alienated the rest of the Arab world by telling the countries that had actually gone to war with Israel that they need to just try harder, when he's sitting in the middle of Africa far away from the conflict
shouldve listened to him tbqh

>alienated the rest of the Arab world by telling the countries that had actually gone to war with Israel that they need to just try harder, when he's sitting in the middle of Africa far away from the conflict
Arabs should learn to delegate their armies.

A great man and a great leader. Got fucked over for making a decision that would make the U.S. irrelevant in oilbux.

>United States of America
>stupid enough in not even beating a bunch of commie jungleniggers in Vietnam even when are literally the most powerful nation in current days

Not just that but it would shield Sub Saharan Africa from Chinese neo-colonialism without the civilising, Gaddafi would have literally made the earth a better place for everyone with his plan to BTFO the Rothschilds.

This will never stop being funny.

Jesus christ

How could you JUST that badly against fucking literal Bedouins

Behold the power of wahabism:

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>Arab militaries

The land is literally perfect for asymmetrical warfare, vast open deserts with caves.

But how can this..

..destroy THIS?

Why didn't they kill the occupants and keep the APC? Hell, they could drive it back to base filled with explosives and both become martyrs AND rek saudis.

FUCKING CHAD REEEEEEE

>the foreign mercenaries KIA

Big Boss is going to be quite upset

>sons of Ali
>relying on technology when they already possess the most dangerous hallucinogenic substance in the world
>which causes your average goat herder to turn into unstoppable killing machine

His son was rather a looker.

Shame he got mauled to death.

Except the Saudi casualty numbers are current, while the Houthi casualty numbers are a year and a half out of date.

Because since the ass beating they recieved all the Saudis have been doing is bombing civilians.

Or destroy ancient historical Arab sites.

>arab armies

maybe because having big, hot, very fuel hungry/maintenance intensive vehicles in a desert with the skies being dominated by a hostile isn't a very bright idea?

Before the Arab spring was Yemen Shia or Sunni?

I'm noticing a trend here.
>Arabs playing at modern-style conventional armies = Arabs BTFO.
>Arabs in tribalfuck Mad-Max rabble fighting asymmetric wars with bombings and ambuscades and the occassional offensive = some measure of success.
clearly arabs are doing shit all wrong.

He aged really badly

It has always been a mix with North Yemen being Zaidi shia and the rest Sunni. But It's even funnier then that shit.

President Saleh and friends were in war with the Houthi's until 2010, after they killed al-Houthi himself and were blaming Iran for all the shit going on there.
Then suddenly the Arab spring happened and he was overthrown, so what does he do? He joins the enemy of his enemy.

>making middle class
>socialist
He was probably just a social democrat

So they should get completely overrun and then just shoot out of caves for the rest od their existence?

Was unification a mistake?

>clearly arabs are doing shit all wrong.
Because the problem is that most of them don't give the job of admiral, general or even officer to the most competent. But rather members of the royal family that hasn't seen a real actual battle in their entire life.
It's basically a bunch of princelings playing war with the equipment daddy bought for your underfed and illiterate benghali/paki slave soldiers to send into the front. It's the same how most of Gadaffi's sons ended up leading his forces.

Jordan seems to be the only Arab nation that get things right.

>>alienated the rest of the Arab world by telling the countries that had actually gone to war with Israel that they need to just try harder, when he's sitting in the middle of Africa far away from the conflict

What a literal boss. Sometimes you just have to say it like it is.

He can't talk though, he lost to an African country with worse tech and less troops.

In retrospect, probably.

But having this small shia state in the middle of Sunniville would not have worked out in the long run and be good for their developement. Especially when South Yemen holds all the oil reserves and Aden.

I've never understood how so many Shia states were set up in the middle east despite there being almost non outside of Iran.

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Thanks for the virus.

>which is happy that the outdated system with which the dictator Gadaffi ruled the country for decades is gone now!

He only did that shit in foreign countries

He lived lavishly in Libya itself

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>looker
the suit is fooling you user, that's not a particularly handsome man

They're pretty much doing the Hezbollah tactic of hiding losses. The figure there isnt even remotely current.

Hezbollah for instance said that it lost 36 troops in the 2006 war with Israel then the chief of Lebanese intelligence said it was 800

Why can't Hezbollah str000nk beat ISIS? Why did Russia have to come save them?

Clearly cause they are arabs.

shit I look like a white skinnyfat version of him

>>Are you retarded or meming? Gaddafi made life better for the lower classes and made a middle class for the first time ever.
b-b-but he enslaved a few beautiful girls and ''raped'' them

That's a zionist lie, he simply checked their virginity with the head of his penis.

>Fucking with the US is never, ever a wise idea.
he was invented by the US

>I've never understood how so many Shia states were set up in the middle east despite there being almost non outside of Iran.

What are you talking about? Britain drew the borders of Iraq, Saudi Arabia and Yemen specifically to engineer Sunni majorities in Shia dominated areas.

>He can't talk though, he lost to an African country with worse tech and less troops.

After he got mauled by the French air force.

A billion buck buys a lot of ten-dollar talibans.

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Fucking moron, BTFOd by fucking Rwanda and Chad.
Literal mongoloid.

>before gaddafi
>stable country

>after gaddafi
>civil war

hmm
sure is a tough one

If that is the case then why did the French seem to prefer the Shia such as in Syria?

To be fair, it's often easy to inflict a lot of damage on the enemy when you're using guerrilla hit and run tactics.

Daily reminder that he was probably a bastard child of Mussolini. Just look at that jawline.

>tfw Gaddafi was literally Mussolini reincarnated

Probably because the British preferred the Sunnis

ISIS has massive amounts of money and somehow keeps getting their hands on US military tech.

it is called cocaine

best dressed dictator award

>stupid enough to have his own intelligence service blow up a disco with a bunch of American soldiers in it
>im-fucking-plying that wasn't Syria
>he blows up a passenger airline
He blew up an entire airline?

Jokes aside, the guy they jailed for PA103 was almost certainly a scapegoat.

They weren't "caught", they were blamed.

They were "caught" in the sense Saddam was "caught" with chemical weapons in 2003.
Except that Saddam did have chemical weapons at some point, we know this because Germany still has the receipts for the chemicals and the CIA still has photocopies of the maps of Iranian troop positions that were conveniently gassed shortly thereafter.

They are winning though.

Saudi Arabia is actually pretty nice to their citizens. Better than the US I would say. They give people Government jobs that do nothing, and feed and house the homeless and provide free (although Islamic) education to those who can meet the requirements.

Saudis aren't some boogymen. They just got a bunch of clerics who have enough time on their hands who want to spread their stupid ideology to others. It's no different from how the US intervenes in other nations to benefit their own interest, or how private Evangelicals, Mormons, and Johova Witnesses try to spread their own stupid ideology to other nations (albeit, it's not as damaging as Islamism, it still is proof that private individuals under a State still try to influence citizens in other nations).

>Saudi Arabia is actually pretty nice to their citizens
When it's not beheading them for bumming other men or witchcraft.

Depressing what we did to his country