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You wait 5 hours in the line because if you didn't and came back tomorrow there would be none left.

My parents/grandparents actually lived through the Soviet domination, and they all hate the commies more than Satan. My grandmothers sister and parents were literally exiled to Siberia because they had a nice house in the middle of town.

> There's a reason
The reason here is that generations of people were conditioning to buy and sell communist rhetoric as their framework of existence. Brand is strong, why not use it?

This quote isn't real

Really? Cause my parents are from Ukraine and they said life was pretty good before things starting going to shit in the late 80s they packed up and left in 1992 (and no they weren't party "elite").

Well it's not like leaving the bread lines wasn't worth all the increase in crime, corruption, and human trafficking/kidnapping

Oh wait no it wasn't

yes it is you liar

it's from an interview he did a while back

I was born in Ukraine in 93 and my parents decided to move to canada in 2000. That sort of speaks volumes to how much better Ukraine had it in the 90s compared to some former soviet republics (including russia).

No obviously times were dire, but what I'm saying, from what they told me (I'm from Poltavskaya Oblast), they didn't have it nearly as hard as in Russia. It's when we were approaching 2000 that there was no hope in sight.

No, that's not what he said. That quote has been tossed around way too much in way too many contexts, that i'm not even sure what it's original use was.

What he did say is that the dissolution of the Soviet Union was the greatest geopolitical tragedy in recent years.
To elaborate, it's because the USA was left with no competition, and has thus become a global hegemon.
He doesn't allude to socialism. His crony capitalism serves him well.

The Soviet Union was a political movement that aimed to bring a more fair economic system to the working man. It got exploited by corruption, something communism/socialism never accounts for.

Bet that's because they had government provided jobs. A lot of the people living in the country did at the time. Also Ukraine isn't exactly the perl of Europe right now.

What do you think happens when a totalitarian regime falls? It takes time to establish order. Also pro tip: the USSR falsified nearly all of their crime statistics, just like they propped up East Germany as some socialist paradise, pumping money into it, and still failing horrible to keep up with the west at the detriment of the average Soviet citizen.

>The Soviet Union was a political movement that aimed to bring a more fair economic system to the working man

I CAN'T, PLEASE STOP

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

I take crime, corruption, and human trafficking over bread lines all the time. Personally, I just go to the other shop, if I see more, than two people in a line. Fuck this shit.

>Bet that's because they had government provided jobs. A lot of the people living in the country did at the time.
so you be sayin' the USSR guaranteed housing and jobs n shiet and a certain (perhaps mediocre for certain things) standard of living? and that's the reason why so many in Russia and the stans and Ukraine living off of 250 euros month are so nostalgic for it?

shieeeettttt

But that's historically true. You don't motivate all those people behind the popular of idea "let's be evil guys". National Socialists did a far better job

>I take crime, corruption, and human trafficking over bread lines all the time. Personally, I just go to the other shop, if I see more, than two people in a line. Fuck this shit.

>muh breadlines
Again, provide proof people always waited 5 hours for bread in the Soviet Union from 1917 to 1991.

Protip: you can't

It was the original idea... I mean promise. They just never tried... To actually implement... Real communism.

ah, yes.

My grandad had medals awarded to him because he was a bulldozer driver for 40 years. 40 years he worked. All he had to show for it was a small 2 bedroom apartment, even though he had 5 children. What a fair and wonderful system the Soviets had. Equality and opportunity for all.

Of course, it wasn't always. Sometime there was just no bread whatsoever. :^)

> Equality and opportunity for all.
That was true. Everyone worked on some equally important job and was even paid with real money.

Do you really think "oh no god fuck its the lines" is an effective criticism of the Soviet Union. You can critique it all you want, "the lines", is not an effective fucking critique.

That's why people are disagreeing with you. Hell you don't even have to be a communist to see this is sub standard.

>user says breadlines only happened during collapse

>posts picture during collapse

t-thanks

he's just memeing

If your grandad was alive in Russia today he'd never been able to afford to move out on his own and have even 1 kid let alone 5.

Makes you think.

Sounds like a paraphrase/rip-off of Winston Churchills famous quip.

As most quote memes are made-up bullshit anyhow, I feel nothing.

If you think that equality means everyone being brought down to the standard of living of the bottom 10% then so be it I guess.

Too bad that the Soviets actually thought that this would be a good idea, and put Eastern Europe 50 years behind their Western counterparts.

I just hate lines. The actual criticism should start with a food (and general goods) shortage at least.

Well see he was not Russian, he was a Lithuanian. Let Russia rot I say. No country has done more harm to the world than they.

Eastern Europe was always 50 years behind their Western counterparts. Remember Auto Hungary?

> No country has done more harm to the world than they.
Israel exist, user.

>Anyone who doesn't regret that I'm still in power has no heart. Anyone who supports me has no brains.

FTFY

We Balts were doing infinitely better before we were illegally occupied.

Take Latvia for example. It was one of the richest countries in Northern Europe before the Soviets came.

>put Eastern Europe 50 years behind their Western counterparts.
communism turned eastern Europe from an agrarian feudalistic patchwork of states to an exporter of cars and a nuclear superpower

the Soviet Union had the second largest economy in the world up until 1991

all the development eastern Europe had it owes to communism

look at countries in South America that were capitalist in 1920 and remained capitalist in 1990

exported nothing but fruit in 1920 with no infrastructure and exported nothing but fruit in 1990 with no infrastructure

> Eastern Europe
> Nuclear Superpower
Just Russia didn't counts, user.

We were exporting cars and radios before the Soviet annexed us.

Fuck off with uneducated babble.

Compare the GDP of free Eastern European countries before the Soviets came, and then look at the GDP in the 90s. It stagnated. Meanwhile Western Europe kept growing.

That's interesting. A shitload of early Latvians were Bolsheviks and orchestrated their own communist revolution independent of Moscow.

Communism must have been very appealing to them for some reason.

You're we wuzin'

> exported nothing but fruit
More like exported nothing but petroleum. Reminds me about one country that was big and cold.

>rigged elections
>retard thinks the Latvians were dumb enough to willing join the USSR

t. knows nothing about Baltic history

Kek ever heard of Latvian riflemen?

Gtfo out of here with your "da ebul russians turned the super prosperous and advanced baltics into a backwater" we wuzin

This. I don't like commies but these Baltic retards are ridiculous.
>Latvia was one of richest countries in Europe
>this is what they seriously believe

>fucking BREAD LINES
jesus christ

There was far more poverty after the fall of the USSR

It isn't their fault that bread was so good. How can you say no for this bad black block?

>young enough to be on Veeky Forums
>thinks he's old enough to know