/scg/ /edg/ Elite Citizen: Star Dangerous General #214

I casually play E:D and it is fun.

This guy gets it

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This just occurred to me. Has anyone tried going into a black hole? Do they just die?

You overheat and die.

So it's basically the same as a sun. That's pretty fucking sad tbqh. Should at least have a special death animation.

I've come back to E;D after a year hiatus with a fresh save.

What's a good way to start out in the current build?

I have a question for you, why do you start off with a fresh save in a game that's all about restricting your ability to gain money and 'progress'

If we talk about a black hole it would make more sense if your ship took structural damage rather than heat damage

Blaze your trail CMDR.
If you just want to grind money and do it without wanting to kill yourself: bounty hunting
if you don't mind wanting to kill yourself: trading
Just fuck around in your space ship, it's all this game is good for.

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What's their endgame?

>space games only you played

>X-wing homage

Variable swept wing =/= folding wing, user. We're talking about the difference between an F-14 and an F-18 here.

Also putting those guns on the tip of the wing is absolutely retarded at best if this thing is ever supposed to be competent in atmospheric flight. SC artists continue to have no fucking clue what they're doing and are just making shit that looks cool rather than looks cool and functional.

I played it.

Wrong, I played that shit for a couple years. Better flight model than SC.

youtube.com/watch?v=T8rylHyMOUg

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>what was one challenge you faced while working on the cyclone?
>"the modularity, that's kind of difficult and we're running into problems with that"
>have you been able to shoot a missile out of a cyclone yet?
>"no, that's one of the problems."
Gee whiz, who would ever have imagined that this shitbox was a bad idea

They should have the things soft launched electromagnetically about 10 or so meters into the air before the engines fire if they're having trouble with that, it'd also make sense to keep the exhaust out of the crews face.

I fail to see how you could possibly run into serious problems getting that to work

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>yfw we started destroying them just to keep Iran from getting their hands on surplus F-14 parts

it's a fictional ship you fucking sperg

Being fictional doesn't mean it has to be fucking stupid.

Enjoy missing ships that're at point-blank range directly off your nose, faggot.

wait they talk about actual game stuff in that show? I thought it was just community bullshit

you guys are posers.

>CIG will almost certainly not have snuck any parachutes into 3.0 without our knowing by now
>aerial dogfights will be a popular pastime and means of controlling territory
>people who eject after taking heavy damage will just fall to their deaths on the planet

They're going to have ground vehicle racing, right?

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What does it have to do with the Hornet referencing directly the X-wing?
I also find Starwars design ridiculous, including the X-wing, but we'll still love flying fictional space fighter pretending to be Han Solo.

>6 size 1 shield
Sound fun, you'd keep repairing your shield but they could be harder to all knock out or hack.

thinking about SW, how many ship is there who tried to copy the Falcon's wide engine? I can't think of any and it can't be right.

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good, because I'm fucking awful at the spaceship racing. it is fun though, it's very nostalgic for some reason... the vibe it has really reminds me of something but I can't place my finger on it.

>Finally got a throttle

Time to firmly grasp some hot ass

You said folding wing. F-18 has folding wings. The Hornet in SC does not look like it has folding wings, but rather variable wing sweep like a Tomcat.

The X-Wing design at least looks like it knows what it's trying to be even if it shouldn't be able to hit the broad side of a wampa at 200 yards. The Hornet looks like it's trying to give subtle nods to real-world designs while going off to do its own thing and just looks stupid as a result. Doubly so now that it has memeworthy guns on the ends of the wings, mounted in a way such that they'd pull the tips of the wings downward due to the weight/size of the guns. At least the X-Wing's weaponry are mounted in-line with the wing like they should be rather than simply slapped on to the underside.

"mind the backblast, you idiot"
-Sun Tzu

fuck, mounted in-line with the wing's support ballast on the thicc end, rather

i wish i could slap the guy who designed the x-wing

posting superior fighter

I like how all the versions that made it into official media have the weapons mounted close to the fuselage. ;^)

not retarded weapon placement
i really like the mk 7, but those cannons trigger me
might be fun for some space stuka action

Even those are far better than cannons mounted on the far end of the fucking wings.

Seriously, motherfuckers, convergence. How will CIG square this circle? Why the fuck even redesign the Hornet if the end result is to make it worse? It does not make sense. If Chewbacca is a Wookie from Kashyyk who lives on Endor with a bunch of Ewoks, you must acquit. The defense rests.

i don't play star citizen so i wouldn't know, but if i was in the future with fucking spaceships i would build fixed cannons that can modify their convergences in flight
star wars, E:D and SC lores should have something like that

The agile class was absolute ass! You could kick ass either with that AA tank or the bomber with brute force but the light one all it made was dodging around.

>implying either of them has thought that far out.
I'm sure they are both thinking, "Fuck what do I do now, it was supposed to have already failed."

I played nothing but that "agile" class (I-Gear it was called), and it was fucking miserable.

Only thing it had any use for was chasing down people that tried to run in PvP. It was useless for defending terrotory, and even when taking down bitchasses trying to escape, surprise bombers from behind was ten times more effective.

>sun tzu
That was obviously Abe Lincoln that said that. You must have been thinking of Sun Tzu's other quote "Two in the pink, one in the stink."

>Y-wing when?
4 years ago. They gave it airfoils because we're pretending this is a sin and sometimes theres combat in atmo.

>this is a sin
an unfortunate misspelling and truth at the same time. kek speaks through you user.

yeah, at first I was gonna correct* it, but then I just didn't.

You never know, you could be the chosen one, set to lead us into the new age of enlightenment and everlasting tendies. Are you getting enough sleep? When was the last time you ate?

Nice peach fuzz mustache there.

it's from all the testosterone in the semen she gets glazed with daily on camera

Is SC really so shit right now there is nothing worth leaking?

is the racing all just 1v1 in AC? that's all I've gotten so far.

mostly. not too many people doing it. If you keep racing, you might pick up a third every so often. Most people don't want to wait to ready up and dont know to hit F12 for chat

>F12 for chat

learn something knew everyday... is that the same for Star Marine?

nevermind.. it's just enter? I swear I tried that and it didn't work before.

Yep, but it seems like the PU and Area 18 are the only places where people remember or care enough to toggle it on. In AC and Star Marine people hardly use it.

The stock binding are kinda stupid. F12 shows the chat window, you have to press enter to actually chat. You should print the 2.6.3 keymap, because there is a shitload of things mapped.

>finally get Corvette
>the Black friday skin for it is missing

wtf? i thought the black friday skin was for every ship?

okay that makes sense, I get it now.

woops meant to quote you too
fuckkkkkk peckahs

on an unrelated note, I think Star Marine gets too much hate here. I enjoy it.

It is. I have my vette painted black right now.

>implying you wouldn't

Well, it's missing for me

what gives? i have it on my conda...

cig finally showed some competence in preventing it is all

the mark 2 and 4 have worse struts than the biggest SC offenders
absolutely disgusting

Have you tried turning it off and back on again?

lol i literally just did that

nothing.

thanks fdev

I actually wouldn't. I'm not into porn stars, or Russians for that matter.

This game is trying to do so many things, it can't possibly be amazing at everything it does. To me Star Marine is a mediocre FPS with huge matchmaking issues and a declining playerbase. I just don't think it compares to the other parts of the game. FPS combat in the PU is buggy, but once it gets more polished and more features are implemented I'm sure I will enjoy it a lot more, whereas I don't think I'll ever enjoy Star Marine.

I think it depends on what kind of FPS gameplay you want out of it.
Where does it say what kind of gameplay they are aiming for?

they are explicitly aiming for slow methodical arma style play. the current lag issues favour the opposite of that, but the stamina system will fundamentally change all that.

Agreed. This game will have a single player, an MMO with FPS elements, an arena dogfighting mode, a racing mode, and an FPS mode. Maybe more but I'm not sure. Even if at release some of these are great, I can't imagine that all of them will be. Most of their resources are going into the single player and MMO, so I never expect any of the others to be as good as if they were their own game. Which is fine. I backed Star Citizen for mainly the single player and MMO. I play Overwatch and Rainbow Six Siege to get my FPS fix.

It feels a lot like GTA to me in that sense, where it tries to do a lot but can't dedicate enough effort into every part to where they're all equally great. Overall, I like what they're trying to do.

I enjoy Star Marine for what it is and I have no issue finding a match at night when most people are on. It needs more fluidity and optimization but otherwise it feels like a nice little tactical shooter but in space.

how do we use DMCA against chris? he is starting to use DMCA takedowns on leaked videos and as a subscriber i demand not only evocati access but complete transperency and open development now.

it's still effective, and heavily rewarded in the PU in an environment where dying matters (a little) more.
people really like overlooking the fact that Star marine is literally just FPS mechanics focus testing and information gathering where they slapped in a scoreboard and some objectives. nobody would play it and give CIG information if it wasnt dressed up to be an arena FPS, and 2-3 people maybe going into kareah and maybe seeing eachother in 15fps with heavily flawed hit reg and desync is not an effective way to get that information. it's a win win dev strategy for them to streamline how they balance FPS and on foot gameplay while the players get to shoot people and get shot consequence free while earning REC, just like AC.

ambushing and sitting still is actually rather punished in sm currently because someone running around full tilt will likely spot and kill someone not moving before they even register on that player's screen.

we only had """leaks""" for 2.6 because people were literally playing the evocati builds offline via an exploit that is now prevented, and streaming the footage consequence free on throwaway youtube accounts.

fuck, I like that a lot.
I really do hope they're able to optimize this thing. That's the one aspect that really takes me out of absolute fanboyism... the clunkiness... the sub 30 FPS in the PU. It is worrisome.

what do they plan to show at starcon and when is it?
i know it's soon.

whatcon? citizencon is on the 21st I think, given 3.0 is in evocati the assumption is they will go live at the show

SQ42 vertical slice was (((confirmed))) for christmas stream, so not that.

citcon might be mining or salvage in some extremely early form (like last years was 3.0 planet gameplay before 2.6 dropped)but it's most likely just going to be 3.0 focused since that's what everyone wants to see

So glad they spent time making sure people couldn't leak 15fps gameplay that they will see anyway
Turned out the leaked footage was exactly what we got, so still doesn't explain the secrecy if they aren't going to make it a release build. Why do they care if people see it broken, if they are launching it broken anyway?

They'll probably put forward a timeline for updates after 3.0 like they did last year, that they will promptly ignore.

thanks anons, don't know why i thought it was called starcon....
hope they show something awesome like that sand worm they sis last year.

ScamCon, live here on October 27th:
twitch/thedereksmart

each evo build is a tiny slice of the full build with lots of stuff disabled.

and?