/poeg/ - Path of Exile General

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memes:
>/poeg/ global channel
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>3.0 Patch Notes
pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1930316
>Harbinger League
pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1927546
>ES and Life manifesto
pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/1899919
>3.0: the Fall of Oriath
pathofexile.com/oriath
>Offline Build Planner
github.com/Openarl/PathOfBuilding/releases/
>Helpful links
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>Wiki
pathofexile.gamepedia.com/Path_of_Exile_Wiki

First for no shitbirds allowed

Could you suggest a noob-friendly SSF viable build that isn't a LMB click snoozefest?
Should I start fresh every league or experiment new builds with items found previously? I tried to get into PoE before Oriath with a firestorm build but with no luck.

>bought all the gear I needed
>21/20 ek first try
>other gems almost 20/20
>tab full of reds
>another tab full of beachheads
>enough chaos to pay Zana's breach tax

who /pushing100/ here

>SSF
why though

How do we fix PoE bros ?
Ill start
>introduce softcore and hardcore only leagues and league challenges again
>severely nerf ascendancies so that the average ascendancy gives you as much power as 1 scion ascendancy
>remove scion
>remove VP
>severely buff the HP of mobs and re-work one shot mechanics
>nerf the aoe and damage of some projectile skills (barrage, tornado shot, KB)
>bring back CoC
>severely reduce the droprate of maps above t6 and make them as difficult as current t16s

Anything you would like to add ?

and whatever broken builds after these changes will be the meta then people will still complain about this and that, trading too, etc etc

Wait for Diablo 4

>do 250x spider forest
>zero doctors
>get bright idea to do shaped burial chambers for a change
>10 maps in this happens
wooooooow

its not about the meta anymore user
its about the approach people have to the game
PoE used to be about surviving and conquering as much content as you could with your build
nowadays its all about speedrunning maps and making as much virtual currency as possible
there is no challenge anymore
This game essentially became RoS, running through easy maps (rifts) in minutes and AoEing down enemies as fast as possible to earn virtual currency

Glacial Cascade mines, no uniques needed, just need to get spell damage items, and you go regen so the lab and trials should be easy to do. It can take a little getting used to however, and you can't link a spell totem to a detonate mine gem until you drop one.

>hiding health pool
clever little shitcrow

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>hardcore

lmfaooo

>playing deadcore

joke's on you.

Oh I have negative health dude. Still feels really survivable though due to freezing everything.

>playing a league in which all you do is autistically grind virtual currency for meme reddit items
???

that's all leagues

why does this happen to me, all I want is one game where the general doesn't die every day

Do you really think slowing the game down is the answer? When they buffed map boss life people just decided to skip them, so I don't know if buffing monster life and slowing progression will help the game survive longer in a league. If you make it harder to get above T6 maps, people will just farm T2 beaches. So, with no VP, no one shots, and less damage overall, what would be exciting about the game? If you can't clear fast the game doesn't need much attention, and if you can't die to one shots you could just get a max block build and watch TV.
A game like that sounds like one of those clicking games like Cookie Clicker, nothing exciting and a long ass grind to see experience pile up.

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I was looking at the skill tree and saw a skill that makes your max health one, does this proc all items who have abilities on low health ?

That was what PoE was in the past and nobody complained.
Youre probably just new and used to this speedshitter meta.
You dont have to bloat your game and add tons of powercreep to make it exciting.
And to the skipping bosses part, I havent seen a single person skip bosses.
Your build must be real fucking bad if you have to skip bosses and if youre shit at the game you should have no say in the direction it should be going.

>how do we fix poe?
>with powercreep and removing mechanics of course!

retart

>having 6 gorillion "more" multipliers is having mechanics
and I advocated for the removal of power creep in my post, not for the further introduction of it I dont know what youre talking about

>Boses are now trash mobs???
wtf this guy had a whole lore thing behind him

I was wondering, is this game playable with a gamepad on pc too?

>playing a league in which all you do is autistically grind virtual currency for meme reddit items then die and do the same thing all over again
???

why wouldnt it be?

also
>reduce drop rates of every non-unique item considerably
>reduce chances of low tier bases dropping on higher level zones
>reduce chances of low tier affixes rolling as iLvl increases
>increase boss IIQ/IIR

The amount of people grinding for HH or wander shitter items on hardcore is much smaller percentage-wise than on softcore
great ideas user

'cuz diablo 3 isn't :^)

>That was what PoE was in the past and nobody complained.
You're right, I sure all those 5 people + Kripp thought the game was great at that time
>Youre probably just new and used to this speedshitter meta.
Yeah, the game is stupid focused on speed right now, but what I'm trying to say is just artificially extending the end game grind probably won't sit well with a majority of players, who unfortunately probably contribute more to GGG's bottom line then your contributions ever will.
>You dont have to bloat your game and add tons of powercreep to make it exciting.
Agreed, but the way to fix is more than just saying "Game was too fast, now we are just going to make the game slower without changing much, hope you guys still enjoy"
>And to the skipping bosses part, I haven't seen a single person skip bosses.
This one, I don't know how to respond. Like, there's been tons of people who have been skipping bosses. Take Tarke Cat who is a HC streamer, he skips bosses. I don't know how to respond to this one.
>Your build must be real fucking bad if you have to skip bosses and if youre shit at the game you should have no say in the direction it should be going.
Dude it's a game that is mostly single player oriented, no one gets a certificate of achievement for playing to level 100 or killing Shaper first regardless of HC or SC. It doesn't matter if you are a casual player that dies 20 times to Kitava before you hit maps. Hell, those people who might be "shit" at the game could be paying GGG more than you ever will.

nope, you're on full health even if its only just "1" health.

I just feel like we need to have a massive overhaul for PoE. GGG needs to stop killing mechanics and reducing fun builds down to "whatever is the fastest".

but ofcourse they're just ganna keep nerfing shit, because chris wilson wants the shaper, uber atziri and all the other end game chase shit to only be available to those who spent more money and time on this fucking chink gold grind fest shit.

I hope next league is trash so i won't have to deal with this game for a long while.

Tarke is a known shitter who dies atleast 15 times per league and even he only skips bosses like minotaur which are very dangerous
I understand that GGG is a company that lusts after profit above all else but the people who participate in upholding this speedshitter meta are not the people who will keep playing this game for the following years.
Theyre the type of people who try out PoE for a league or 2, buy some MTX and leave.
If GGG continues down this path then in a year or two they will find themselves stranded with a broken game and fractured playerbase

you can kill shaper on a 50c budget including the cost of the fragments you absolute retard

>only have to return 2
>go out of my way to return them all
>get nothing extra
well ok then

you get extra loot per each skeleton

dead thread dead game

>severely reduce the droprate of maps above t6 and make them as difficult as current t16s

Yeah I'm sure the playerbase miss the good old times of exalting shrine maps.

back then high-tier maps were impossible to sustain, hard to get and rewarding enough to do
It was good for the game, casuals shouldnt be able to do all content
prove me wrong

decent.

wrong

ah I see it now

reminder

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well /poeg/ i invested the rest of my money into this retard CI chaos GC build, let's see if it works

baitposting like does just makes the thread die faster

please stop

I'm 100% serious hc players are simply rolling dice to decide whether or not lag kills them and aside from that there is no other difference bewteen the two modes

>whether or not lag kills them
*deletes their character

Oh really? Why did that build interest you?

Is there a point exploring maps when doing the campaign?

you can't

>ggg makes the game more casual than D3
>it dies

really grinds my gears

oh wow it's almost like this game and every other in the genre is alive not because of their own merits but because D3 was shit

every game in Veeky Forums is dying because people keep making individual threads for games rather than grouping them so anything that's not top 4 games dies.

GGG tried to capture the hardcore audience in 2012 and 2013 but then slowly strayed from the path, blinded by greed. They started doing shit like casualizing the game, catering to china and consoles etc.
The game is a shell of its former self nowadays.
worse than D3

There is absolutely nothing wrong with going fast and killing fast

which is why I'm glad I didn't give them a single cent besides the necessary to get a currency tab

tfw gave them over 200 bucks
I regret everything
back to r*ddit with you

Back to D3 with you

fucking disgusting how arrogant newshitter summerfag redditors are
ive been playing this game since beyond league and while on paper going fast might sound nice, it devolves into pure retardation once you realise that the game changes from being a game in which you strive to overcome difficult fights to a fucking virtual currency farming simulator
so fuck off back to r*ddit you wander shitter

>not even playing since beta
>calls someone newshitter
the state of poeg in 2017

>reeeeee they're having fun with their builds instead of plodding in a map for hours

If there is a reason to drop PoE is the dogshit performance since 3.0.0 and the almost constant unexpected disconnections.

Trivializing the game by exploiting overpowered skills and keystones that GGG refuses to nerf and playing a loot casino instead of an ARPG is good for the game ?
Do you realize how badly completing everything in a league in a week damages its longevity ?
It will fucking kill the game retard

Are we even playing the same game now?

according to you, the game is casualized, so casuals are the majority of the playerbase
casuals obviously aren't able to kill shaper, uber atziri, get level 100 or 36 challenges in a week beause they're, well, casuals
therefore, the game stays alive and you turn out to be a retard who contradicts himself on every step

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the problem is that casuals can clear red maps and kill shaper

uh no they can't, you don't even know what a real casual is if you think that.

That grap is innacurate because a lot of players got baited into playing the game by GGGs 10 NEW FREE ACTS advertising campaign, the casuals I mean are the new players who can just follow a guide and clear all content ingame, which was not possible before

no it's not a problem, it's a goal that's hard enough to achieve for a casual which keeps them playing, unlike the endless grinding of white maps for which you're advocating
looks to me like your superiority complex is hurt by the fact that people can achieve the same feats as you without dedicating 10 hours a day to playing a kiwi stock market simulator

What's a good beginner's build for Marauder to learn the game with?

Sunder.

>clear content in 1 week
>league dies

it didnt use to be like this and you know that aswell

How about rangers or shadows?

it literally did
why do you think they shortened leagues from 4 months to 3?

but the current league is 4 months
it took people way more time to do everything back then because the standard for dps was 30k and not 300k

ya it did, depending on the league
it all really depends on how good the league is, and harbinger was not a good league at all.

What does your Atlas look like user?
I need to see some examples of some good atlases

some things took longer, but that's not the fault of high dps or clearspeed. also don't forget that 4k life was acceptable back then but now it's too little even in softcore
leveling to 100 took longer because top tier maps were equivalent level to today's t11s, there were no sextants and you couldn't run one efficient layout over and over
completing all challenges took longer because challenges themselves were more time and/or currency consuming than now, like "have all these uniques in your stash"

and speaking of clearspeed, it was mostly limited by the fact that moving fast or using movement abilities desynced the fuck out of you, which you can't possibly argue was a good "feature" of the game

While I am glad that desync was removed and the endgame overall improved, I believe we have a reached a point at which the endgame will only continue to stagnate unless GGG does something about it.
The mindset of most people is go fast and grind up as much currency as possible for shitty meme items like HH because all other chase uniques either got nerfed into oblivion or became legacy.
PoE definitely needs an endgame that is not just purely currency driven and instead rewards originality and exploration.

I'm at lvl7, 600k EXP. After doing almost every Zana's daily and doing every zana I've saw, with some prophecies dropped.
I also have insane luck in this game, so I had wild Zana quite often - and after two and a half months I'm 1 mil away from Zana 8.
That's not even absurd, that's straight up idiotic. Zana should get some XP every time you kill a boss in a map - that way you would still grind, but it would at least be bearable.
EDIT: many people are suggesting rotations - well, I ask you all, why the fuck is Zana the only thing gated behind rotations? I'm playing this league for almost three months now DAILY and I still didn't unlock the lvl8.
I don't want to do rotations simply because I fucking refuse to cave on this one, even if it hinders my gameplay. Maybe when they see how many people have zana 8 and how many people actually dislike being forced to do rotations, they'll realize it's completely idiotic.

>playing a shitty filler league for 3 months

youre the fool here, not anyone else

guys give me good fun builds

Siege Ballista.

I'm a pretty new player but there's something about totems to me that makes them feel just not as fun as other skills. Am I alone?

thats where youre wrong kiddo

the most fun way to play is to do a bit of everything so you dont get bored of one playstyle

phys or ele

VAAL
SIEGE
BALLISTA
WHEN

stop forcing your shitty meme

what are some builds that can farm lab efficiently and do maps good as well

champion or slayer cyclone

What t13s and t14s do you normally do?

all of them

Play Dark Pact

that sounds gay as fuck