/5N@F/ General

Baby's voice gives me a headache, don't really know why. It's just grating to listen to, I don't see the appeal.

Mangle is the OG waifu, accept no substitutes.

>A date at the carnival
I envy you, man. My dreams are only incomprehensible meses.

>glasses are red/blue
>eyes are blue/red
>no light goes in or out because of this
>blind as a bat
I like that. That's a nice touch.

That's pretty much been Beamz's thing since day one

Depends entirely on OCfag. BB and Clockwork gave him blue eyes. Badger gave him green. I thought I was the first to do the inverse colors for the eyes, but well.. 5naf.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=10591

Cake beat me to it, that handsome rogue.

Earliest one I could find is this one by DepressedFoxy, which was earlier than Cake's by nearly 2 months.
5naf.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=6980
I remember that specific feature of him also being a thing during the early greentexts about the character before people started drawing him.

Reposting a couple of pics
A scene from the epilogue of Sy's fic A Fresh Take
pastebin.com/WjSS1LKU

and SnaxChica bodypainting
5naf.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=42638

Glad you liked it!

>rollerblade feet
Why did that stop being a thing? It's adorable!

Got me curious and took a stab at putting a bit more meat on the Chica I draw.

That's a perfect increase.

I'm a lot more interested in the loose crop top/fingerless gloves/gym shorts combo

Awesome, I was liking it too.
Thanks for the improvement idea!

Do you ever notice how back in the early thread days you can easily tell what other fandoms artists were in just by looking at their material?

Hey KB.

Glad you liked it! It's been too long since I did a villain story, and making Baby into more of an unapologetic bitch was great.
I like the bugbots a lot. Tiny Dancer and Party Time were both fun to write, and probably in my top 5 for this year. They'll be sticking around, especially if I get to the Ballora story.
I beg to differ.
I'm still confused about why she didn't appear in Custom Night. Modelling Baby could very well have been the biggest waste of Scott's time since the that broken port of World.

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She's finally done!

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What exactly does that say?

>Not a single can of SURGE in sight
She's a disgrace to the 90's, what a whore.
Needs-more-SURGE/10.

>Cool beans
>Whomp that's whack(?)
>That is wack
>Psych boo-yah!

COOL BEAMS THIS WHOMPS THAT'S WHACK FAR OUT (???) WHOOMP THERE IT (IS) THAT IS WAC(???) PSYCH BOO-YAH!

Doesn't the red blue pattern get broken with the is in whoomp there it is?
>COOL BEAMS

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Ah, yes, classic Foxy. Before the gay.

Remember when Foxy was a villain?

Have a (You) samefag.

I'm not a samefag.

Watch out, user. Don't throw those accusations around so carelessly. Someone might get angry. I'll have you know that I've been doing sit-ups.

>spoiler
I think I lose a little bit of my lifespan every time someone puts that in their post. You're killing me, user. You're literally killing me.

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I like to think the rest of Rugrats' Funtime cast are hardcore compared to the Toys which is why they're not welcomed around as much.

Why was the hypothetical Foxy handpuppet for Mangle not characterized very often? Just because it wasn't a canon animatronic, people didn't feel encouraged to give it a personality?

Didn't interest people and most like to give their Mangle's other half the personality of being the alternate's opposite. I think it also had something to do with Withered Foxy being around that giving Mangle a whole other tiny pirate felt redundant. So instead you get the more common split personality.

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What was the context for this?

CrisisFoxy after untold time as a pirate.

Thought maybe it was from that short-lived DnD thing he did.

I'm glad I'm not the only one that loved her voice. I could listen to it for hours.

You know, I didn't actually enlarge this image before. I understand that you want me to think Foxy was always interpreted by the thread community as a one-note ambiguously rapey faggotronic. But until I forget the halfway serious interpretations that actually painted him a cold emotionless killer, or even the super secret third option, I just can't agree with you. Besides, I was referring to the broader community.

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>2015
So much time has passed I keep thinking FNAF3 was a 2016 release.

Fuck me, that's adorable

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I thought the guy was referring to the games' Foxy. He started off as a creepy wolf thing that lurked behind the curtains with the uncanny valley in full effect, who also was pretty likely to have bitten someone during the day. Then the Bite got retconned into probably being a girl counterpart, and Foxy stopped being a killer (with the rest of the gang). Then 3 happened and he lost his arm, and in 4 focus is placed on a Foxy mask... And the new bite is still another animatronic malfunction, this time involving a Fredbear suit. In SL, Foxy is literally castrated/replaced with his female counterpart, and is only really in the game to keep the pronouns joke going. Also, people latch onto a new female Foxy again.

Foxy's been fucked over almost as much as Freddy.

>and Foxy stopped being a killer (with the rest of the gang)
The FNAF1 gang as a whole have killed people before, likely killed Phone Guy, and tried their damnedest to kill Mike.

I agree that the first game established that, but I think Scott backpedaled on that with the sequels. He didn't outright say "They never killed anyone", but the focus on the dead kids in the other games and the lack of actual fatalities (the only time an animatronic kills a human intentionally after the first game is done for a joke) and Scott's increasing transference of negative qualities onto Afton makes me think he wants the audience to see Afton as the end-all bad guy, while sympathizing with the animatronics.

It's possible to have lesser villains and greater villains. Just because the animatronics are arguably not as bad as Afton doesn't mean they aren't bad.

What happened to all the new people we had?

What new people?

This thread has been the same 80 people from 2015 endlessly circlejerking until the end of time.

Pretty sure we've got over a hundred, just that a significant portion lurk and rarely post.

>Just because the animatronics are arguably not as bad as Afton doesn't mean they aren't bad.

Morally, the animatronics fall on the heroic end of the spectrum. Scott's personal headcanon and the storylines in the sequels both support this. If the animatronics were still seen as bad people you might have a point, but they simply aren't. They got their happiest day and went to heaven. They're good kids at the end of the day, who didn't do nothing.

If the animatronics were lesser villains, then the narrative would be treating them as villains as opposed to anti-heroes at worst.

>Scott's personal headcanon
It's not headcanon when you're the creator it's called official game lore. You also act as if it is not possible for villains to be redeemed, which can easily be interpreted as the case with FNAF 3 being the dead kids actively seeking redemption by helping the player and FNAF 4 being them being forgiven by the coma kid.

I'm honestly okay with the concept of the animatronics being good if at least some of them are really fucking evil to balance it out

We don't actually know if the kids went to heaven, just that they were freed from their shitty afterlife existence and their spirits passed on to somewhere. Even if they did go to heaven, the distinction could easily be made that the children's vengeful spirits were more forces of nature than forces of evil, their actions unconscious and guided by an all-consuming need for revenge rather than logically considered and intentionally done. That's pretty common for these sorts of ghost stories. "Vengeful ghost haunts and kills indiscriminately, but upon passing on they feel remorse for their actions and thank the one who freed them" is one of the most popular tropes in horror fiction, and for good reason.

Basically, it's not a black-and-white scenario and we don't have all the details to make that kind of judgement definitively yet.

We had new ocfags months ago, where did they go?

I'm not sure who you're referring to.

>Vengeful ghost haunts and kills indiscriminately, but upon passing on they feel remorse for their actions and thank the one who freed them"
There's no implication that they feel remorse. There's no big "sorry we killed you and attempted to condemn your soul to our suffering by cramming you inside of the suits like the Puppet" ceremony. It's all done in dialogueless cutscenes. They go up as balloons, and then in the happiest day image in FNAF World you see an angel. Scott believes in heaven. There's some pretty strong implications that heaven exists in FNAF and that the kids went to it. Scott certainly doesn't think they should go to hell. All we have to go off of is the kids' actions, which paint an unfavorable image of their morality, and the cutscenes, which paint an unfavorable image of Scott's writing. Do we even know what the Box was about?
>Basically, it's not a black-and-white scenario and we don't have all the details to make that kind of judgement definitively yet.
It totally is. Five games in, we can safely say that these kids are little bastards who murder indiscriminately, that Scott wants us to sympathize with. There's an emotional disconnect between the audience and the children, which is part of why Baby fell so flat in SL.
Scott's trying to make us see the animatronics as Wolverine when they're all Jason Voorhes but less retarded.

They're also massively traumatised by how they were killed.You can't blame them for lashing out at anyone who might be their killer because while trapped in the animatronics they're likely on the verse of insanity filled with rage and pain.

>You can't blame them
Yes you can. That's like the crux of why they were good kids who dindu nuthin is hated. Maybe if they had been shown or strongly implied to regret each murder, perhaps going back to the old idea of programming being too strong for them to resist carrying out there would be some sympathy. As is they kill a guard go whoops our bad then do it again.

There was never any new ocfags. You must be harboring false memories citizen. Give it a good a good, long doublethink.

There was never any new ocfags. Nor was there a FNAF World. Get back to work.

Insanity is most likely gone by now. If the murders really did get retconned into happening in 1987, it gives us five years for them to be in the [autistic screeching] phrase where they chimp out at guards and distrust adults (but not kids, huh. Weird, it's like they have selective sanity)
The multiple decades that was the original implication for the first game worked so much better. It still wasn't an excuse to sympathize with them. It was pretty creepy actually since these things were once human, but now they aren't. Just monsters. Until that dumb prequel twist.

Baby sure wasn't insane, anyways. She was calm and collected. And accidentally came off as a sociopath, but I digress. Michael and William both seem to have viewed her as the daughter, and Michael still does. Baby's not really doing her kind any favors.

>You can't blame them for lashing out at anyone
What the fuck
Yes I can
Yes I should. Jesus Christ. Jason voorhes didn't deserve my sympathy and neither do these mongoloids. Jason has the same backstory as these kids but he came up with it first.

This is literally saying i can't blame Jason for killing a bunch of teens
What the fuck, man. Look up the hi-fi murders for me, will ya? And watch some horror movies/

Their programming IS too strong for them to resist, it's just that the programming is supernatural in nature rather than electronic.

That's The Living Tombstone's explanation. But not necessarily the game. Try again.

Anyways, Scott wants you to sympathize with these murderers and he wants it black and white, with Afton being irredeemably evil and Michael, Baby, and the kids being misunderstood victims. His sensitivity towards dead kids factors in heavily. It IS what drove the creation of The Desolate Hope.

I dunno, I feel like one of us is getting mixed up in regards to what Scott wants to convey versus what he's actually conveying. I just feel like Scott wants the player to sympathize with the dead kids without necessarily keeping them from being villains. Just based on their actions alone they're worse than Purple, after all. it's their motives that's really in question.

When was the last time this thread discussed actually playing the games rather than discussing the lore or Scott's bad decisions?

Do Not!
Don't fall for this meme. It's already ruined quite a few characters I used to like.

Looks better. Keep her that way.

It really isn't even "thicc" meme levels, she looks like she has the normal physique for the kind of character she is.

What characters have been ruined, exactly?

Nothing here. There were some furry artists I liked who gradually updated their designs as the thicc meme started gaining traction to the point that it pretty much killed the appeal of their art and characters.
I'm not saying these updates are as gratuitous as those, but Cav Chica already looks damn-near perfect, and I'd hate to see him alter something that works so well for the sake of generic sex appeal.

>I'd hate to see him alter something that works so well for the sake of generic sex appeal.
The rest of the thread does it so now it is his turn.

I mean, she pretty much looks the same. Her boobs are a little bigger but other than that I don't really see a dramatic shift.

A couple of threads ago, I think?

Listen, the general wants the kids as demon monsters killing people for kicks and dicks, Scott ruined the entire series by making them innocent victims not responsible for their actions, and Purple Guy was the worst thing to happen.

Problem is, so much of SL is spent on Baby's angstiness, while "You don't know what we've been through" was a prevailing line spoken throughout the trailer, insinuating it's our fault for disliking them. Because we don't know how they've suffered.

If Scott wanted us to see them as villains then he would've cast them in more of a malicious role, where they don't have a Freudian excuse for killing.
It's like if Friday the 13th tried to make you feel bad when Jason gets killed by the final survivor.

If Cav goes any thiccer it would be bad and you'd have my support but I like the updated design. She's always been generic sex appeal compared to the on model approach seen in Cav's other art.
He's justifiably concerned Cav will go the way of Ace Crisis or Bnom. Fuck off Toop.

>wanting the villains to be villains is a bad thing
I just want my horror game to be a horror game again ;_;

Go away Ace.

>justifiably
Crisis finds amusement in drawing shock porn and Bnom is a literal shitposter whose original modus operandi was spamming the thread with inflation, vore, and scat while trying to start Tumblr fights with furry artists for attention. That's hardly a fair comparison to make.

Not all, just most drawfags

>shock porn
Ease up on the melodramatics fag.
>Bnom
The topic was art produced and he is one of the biggest (get it?) producers of hyper. In my opinion Cav Chica now has a more full figure without being obscene.

It's not really melodramatics when Crisis himself has admitted to it.

Shock porn might as well be anything that's not missionary between male and female of average build to some people.

>tfw still salty over 3 years later about Tired """""temporarily""""" turning his bots into furries

He can't help that. We're all furry here. I'm furry. You're furry. You must be, or you wouldn't have come here.

I came here because animatronics are rad and it was /v/'s flavor of the month.