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To be fair, you have to have a very high IQ to understand Tales of Maj'Eyal. The gameplay is extremely difficult, and without a solid grasp of MMO combat most of the players will be oneshot by their first rare. There’s also Hogulus’s fantastic lore, which is deftly woven into his writing- his personal philosophy draws heavily from Something Awful posts, for instance. The fans understand this stuff; they have the intellectual capacity to truly appreciate the depths of the gameplay, to realise that they’re not just funny- they say something deep about LIFE. As a consequence people who dislike Tales of Maj'Eyal truly ARE idiots- of course they wouldn’t appreciate, for instance, the humour in DarkGod’s existential catchphrase “Hello my minions :^),” which itself is a cryptic reference to the epic Despicable Me 2. I’m smirking right now just imagining one of those addlepated simpletons scratching their heads in confusion as Darren Grey's genius wit unfolds itself on their computer screens. What fools.. how I pity them. :joy:

And yes, by the way, i DO have an Orc Greatmother tattoo. And no, you cannot see it. It’s for the ladies’ eyes only- and even then they have to demonstrate that they’re within 5 IQ points of my own (preferably lower) beforehand. Nothin personnel kid.

Ohayou gozaimasu, /rlg/!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Let's play our best today!

do NOT play roguelikes

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there is no best with ADOM

just slamming my head into a wall until the game decides to be "very hard but playable" instead of "boring fucking brick wall"

Off to a smashing start.

PLAY YOUR BEST

What roguelikes are consistently hard from begining to end rather being a bunch of popcorn munching followed by moving 1 tile to far and ending up in the range of something that stunlocks you to death if you aren't equipped right or kills you in like 3 hits if you don't notice what it is in time? Games where I'm not largely fighting tedium

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Sil?

sil i think
ia

THE BLACK TOME OF ALSOPHOCUS RANDOMLY SPAWNED

*THERE IS NO FUCKING BEST TO BE FOUND HERE*

I should give up and just try for my impossible Chaos Knight Ultimate Balance End

I just got oneshot by a transmuter ghost.

haven't seen that one in a while.

Definitely fault

Sil. PCB is mostly like that too though. Generally really easy early game for every class/race, spikes in difficulty quite a lot around the middle, gets easy again in the beginning of the later part of the game, and then gets spikes in the end due to a lot of bullshit.

fault

>oneshot
>two attacks
also you can examine ghosts user, you should have ran the fuck away when you saw D:3 elec brand

>I better walk towards and try to hit this enemy who the game says has the strongest weapon brand in the game that could kill me in one hit

Next time try not dying.

Tangledeep.

>The ghost hits you and does no damage
>You are electrocuted

>you die...
nice bug

Ordinary chaos god or bust
Going through 90% of the game uncrowned and off-alignment is NOT fun, especially for final descent and Drakon fight

Fuck that, OG Chaos is chump and the oldest bad win there is, it's all about them sweet Chaos Knight non-chaos Ultras (and the soon coming Ultimate Hell End they're updating with)

If you're not fighting every single God as a heretic knight of the dark as you cleave your way into the heart of oblivion to save reality as the worst hero ever, then ADOM has nothing left for you

you don't have to do that for OCG though. you can stay chaotic all game.

Pretty decent find for D5. Shame I ain't gonna use it.

That's why I am encouraging OCG
I wish neutral was more... neutral. It pisses me off that the druid, mad minstrel, shaad'wador and other supposedly neutral npcs shit on chaotic chaos knights. They're basically just glorified lawfags

at least inscribe to honor it

Its worthless so no point. Also, this is quite an interesting run.
Which altar shall I use to waste all my good luck and splat?

>I wish neutral was more... neutral. It pisses me off that the druid, mad minstrel, shaad'wador and other supposedly neutral npcs shit on chaotic chaos knights. They're basically just glorified lawfags

Neutral hates Chaos AND Order. Chaos and Order are both bad fucking news. Order just wants to erase everything and keep it perfectly dull and eventless - stasis. Chaos wants eternal change and horror with no regard to life or purpose - basically the Mythos write D&D.

Balance is the only force that means anything. Ultimate Balance Ends are the only 'true' ends as far as I care, and they're also some of the hardest. Winning one with a Farmer was goddamn blood on my hands and mouth good.

>+4 spear
>good
I wonder why I come to this place.

>Jiyva altar
Go for it this is a 1 in 1000 chance
He also gives a free beastly appendage, saving you the spellpoints

I said for D5. Maybe learn to read?

Works 15 me

UNE is by far the easiest, you don't have to commit to anything and can crown the moment by midgame starts.
Agreed on it being the "canon alignment", Thomas is a centrist faggot IRL so it fits.

>I said for D5.
I reiterate my statement. Even in D:1 it would be trash.

Troll monk of Zin here, cleared the crypts/tombs and did the Iron City. Got most resses, all that's left is the 3 hell branches and 4 pandemoniums. This is the first time I got so far after a few months of playing.
Never beat the game, should I just keep at it and try for a 15 rune run or call it quits and go for a safe win because I've never visited those branches before?

Nope a +4 wep is good until you have one with a better enchantment if its of the type you have skill in. A +0 wep is good enough for the entire D area. This wep was crap in my case even this early because my kung fu is far stronger. This is ignoring the relec, pain, yada yada because they're entirely irrelevant during the part of the game you would be using a +4 wep.

Just win so you know what its like to win. Then do extended next time.

Gonna do that. Crypt was a close call already, burned through most of the stuff I had and pretty much gave up, 2 consecutive miracle teleports saved me

>Nope a +4 wep is good until you have one with a better enchantment if its of the type you have skill in.
Not really.
It's basically a +4 club. Any weapon you're proficient in would swing faster and thus do more damage.
Are you retarded.

IVAN

>Balance is the only force that means anything.

Next time if you go for troll monk, consider going for statue form once you get to the extended, absurd exp gain parts. Trolls have the best/second best statue form. Its not really worth going for it any earlier because of trolls terrible apts for it but its reistances and AC help a ton at that point. You could also for far less get the ice armor spell for AC but by the time you want this extra defensive stuff you are drowning in exp anyways

No its a popcorn muncher where you suddenly die. Its like one of the posterboys for that.

Can someone tell me when it's a good idea to use status effects and debuffs instead of straight damage in DCSS? The only times it seems like those effects are worth it is when you're fighting really scary enemies, but those enemies inevitably have crazy resistances that make it a serious gamble even trying. Acid corrosion and drain seems like the only reliable and consistently useful debuffs.

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A: When stabbing.
B: When the unique relies on magic.
C: When you are sure it will work.
Pretty much. Confusion is a massive damage boost for a stabber and makes mages do like 0 damages. The risk is something you just have to deal with as someone who decided to use wimpy ass magic instead of manly weapons

Charms (debuffs) are really useful against special kinds of enemies, especially for insects and some very dangerous uniques like sonya are vulnerable to them

If you see electric eel, orb spiders or even bees, just polymorph them and the thread is gone.

I'm glad this is a thing now. It really is good isn't it?

You should always apply debuff effects if the chance is over 50% for hex-like effects.
If your ability checks HD, you should use it on low HD, non-resistant monsters (dazzling spray, mephitic cloud).
If you are fighting a high AC monster, you should acid and/or apply misshapen(only reliable way to do this is with irradiate afaik).

Not helping!

Good man.

The story is kinda bland, the paladin really gets over the fact that dragon has killed hundreds and has permanently crippled several other hundreds by destroying their homes and it really plays out as a "jerk leaves girl and nice guy passes buy and fucks her" stereotype
but I liked the originality with the enlargement spell and some other touches

>should always apply debuff effects if the chance is over 50% for hex-like effects.
Err, and if the enemy will be crippled by it and is worth crippling. Confusion and Para are crippling. Polymorph can be crippling to low HD monsters. Slow is not crippling.

Good examples of para/conf targets: Ettin, Vault Sentinel/Warden/Convoker, big slime creatures, non-purple draconians with a class, death cobs. Just a few I could think of off-hand.

Just make sure to remember that standing beside big, confused melee guys as a spriggan is a bad idea.

what a nice critique, you should post your own work too.

>paladin
He's a dragonslayer. More than that he's from a noble house. He doesn't give a shit about peasants. She's a dragon. She is usually utterly superior to any human and the fact that this dude could probably destroy her turns her on. Neither of them are "nice".

>only a chef can tell you there's shit in the plate
I wish this silly notion would just disappear.

>/rlg/ has no roguelikes to talk about, just fap fiction
How far we have fallen

nic eon topic discusion

>plays wall of text with no tiles
how can you tell the differences between poorly written smut and a game of elona?

>paladin really gets over the fact that dragon has killed hundreds
>"jerk leaves girl and nice guy passes buy and fucks her"

It's written by a neckbeard, what the fuck did you expect?

I wouldn't know what a game of elona looks like, I only play roguelikes

>dragonslayer
Asshole offers her a hankerchief twice to wipe her tears and refuses to kill her in such a sorry state
the author really just wrote him off as a NICE GUY towards the dragon and not giving a fuck about the townsfolk
If you're trying to tell me he's just a hired merch, then it contradicts the fact he'd give a shit about her feelings
it's just badly written

>thinks the guy is a paladin and not a mercenary motivated by coin
at least read the story before posting about it

i never noticed the guy in that pic was an oozemancer but that gave me a hearty chuckle

It's a story about a DRAGONSLAYER fucking a DRAGON. I'm sorry if the idea of pornography is lost to you somehow, but some suspension of disbelief is required. If you can find me a story of a dragonslayer fucking a dragon that's better, please share.

Farmer isn't that tricky after you farm hundreds of blessed spense in your dwarftown garden.

>It's a story about a DRAGONSLAYER fucking a DRAGON. I'm sorry if the idea of pornography is lost to you somehow, but some suspension of disbelief is required
No, I'll tell you what that is. Amateur writing at best. I suspend my disbelief to believe in dragons and dragonslayers, but the whole goddamn story is really badly cobbled together and the whole plot is just stolen from, as I said before, jerk leaves nice guy comes they fuck the end.
Man, why are you getting so mad?
Are you the author?

>thinks tropes are stolen intellectual property
>has never read smut before
it's time to go back

>Man, why are you getting so mad?
Because you're analyzing goddamn pornography like it's high class literature. And because I like arguing on the internet. It's kind of why I come to this site.

CUMMY BUMMY POOPY PEE PEE

sure desu senpai
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how about those roguelikes

>I replied to everyone else's posts! Now what?

>Hopefully, more coming soon.
everytime

GOO GOO GA GA TINGLY PEE PEE

>Because you're analyzing goddamn pornography like it's high class literature.
Well excuse me for liking quality when reading. If I just wanted to jerk off I'd open up a video of a woman masturbating in a public library.

>As much as I enjoyed this it hasn't made me want to play Wyrmic.

I remember doing a GUV with my HuFa at around 18 level.

Learning dropped to like, 10, massive drains to St and To too

-then- I paused [since hit level 29] and did Maze where I got drained further by Minotaur Magi. My Le dropped so low I stopped seeing wand charges.

and then I nearly bounced back and beyond with Maze drops, the emperor corpse and the black unicorn reward

went and finished the GUV just throwing my RCT that time

shame Maze rewards got nerfed

Please direct me to the website where you get your peer reviewed professionally edited thoroughly checked for plotholes dragon smut stories with fully fleshed out characters with backstories that make perfect sense. I feel like reading a couple novels before I jerk off.

>Please direct me to the website where you get your peer reviewed professionally edited thoroughly checked for plotholes dragon smut stories with fully fleshed out characters with backstories that make perfect sense.
Well, I was a pre-reader for a large-ish pony fanfiction site. I could recommend you a few.

>It was the ponyfucker all along
Pottery.

Only if the writers have come up with trope-free reasons for characters to fuck. If two characters want to fuck for reasons I've heard of before then I just completely lose interest. It's just not believable anymore.

>hmmm let's see, I could encourage quality posting in perpetuity by reporting shitty off topic discussion
>or I could allow it to fester by hiding it and ignoring it until it occupies a larger portion of the general than on topic discussion
>hmmmmmmmm

Well to be fair Ragingsemi's humanized 60+ pages long stories are the unsung masterworks of a long-mocked and now sadly forgotten hero.
Here.
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Which variant of IVAN is the best?

Vanilla.

Literally could not figure out a way to respond to this post without breaking the rules.

>found Book of Power on D9
YES. Lost my last two games because I couldn't find any decent spells.

/rlg/ is starting to get pretty active these days.

it's because roguelikes are fun

is qud worth it or should i just keep playing df adventure mode

its shit

It's worth pirating.
Don't pay goons, don't pay DRM anti-software-rights types. Not even if you have money to just plain waste.

A gentle reminder to /rlg/. If you're going to bitch about paid roguelikes, pirate them quietly and talk about how shit they are instead of "waah muh DRM".

1/10 not worth a proper (You)

Can someone upload the latest Cogmind version please?

>the chad complaining about software practices that bother you vs. the virgin taking it lying down

No :)

>been trying to win as a conjurer or elementalist for like 30 games straight
>always die shortly after Lair
Melee truly is easy mode.

Hellcrawl is crawl remade to be like that