Why does it prefer going second though? If the deck doesn't care about whether they go first or second, wouldn't it make more sense for them to have a higher going first winrate considering that the top 2 decks want to go first?
Asher Taylor
7%
Matthew Perry
>tfw just auto concede on sight to every dragon player now >didn't have to do it for midshadow >didn't even autoconcede for Spawn until turn 6 spawn >the only other deck I auto concede to is Dshift when playing control. >have multiple days where I don't even launch the game, a thing that hasn't happened to me since steam launch until now. Literal cheaters are ruining this game.
Liam Peterson
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Lincoln Robinson
>tfw turn 1 insight
Nathan Hughes
>ITT: people defending turn 6 aegis Really?
Josiah Carter
just full moon bro
Ryan Nguyen
Friendly reminder that turn 6 Heavenly Aegis is fair and balanced. :^)
They want that extra card to get their card synergy effects. The extra evo point is also important when their entire gameplan is basically "evolve B&B, hit face with it".
Xavier Martin
>PDK is a WLD card
Gabriel Russell
Actually play the deck and you'll know why. BnB requires you to have a hand, not just play shit on curve.
Nathan Brown
Just fucking nerf BnB, I don't fucking care. Let me enjoy comfy 5% playrate craft again.
Samuel Kelly
This. Just let roaches be the only thing relevant about forest. Brainlets will never know how to get into it so the class will belong to me again.
Jonathan Stewart
It has counters and no real other win condition if it doesn't go through You can use the version with wolf and elephant but it's really clunky
Owen Rogers
Again, is this some kind of bug or broken shit priority? Why always Twilight effect Mordecai's even when it wasn't the card destroyed first?
Matthew Lopez
Elf twins can take care 2 followers on turn 2 going 2nd. BnB is easier to proc going 2nd. Overstatted ward like Treant and Hector.
Joshua Ward
>Friendly reminder that turn 6 Heavenly Aegis is fair and balanced. :^) Friendly reminder that you need to fuck off and stay in your discord dumpster
Carson Robinson
2478 is a meme
Joseph Scott
Twilight Queen was destroyed right before Mordecai in your screenshot.
Ryder Parker
Twilight Queen was destroyed immediately before Mordecai. What's the issue?
Brayden Harris
>it wasn't the card destroyed first? Are you fucking retarded?
Matthew Butler
>ToG has no problematic cards In what universe?
Carter Thomas
>plays cancer craft >is mentally retarded Why am I not surprised?
Zachary Gonzalez
Oh, I see.
I was taking Nep as a chain effect linked to all the cards she pulls for some reason, now it makes sense.
Easton Nelson
It was honestly just a matter of time until B&B became cancer. Anyone with at least one eye and half a brain could see that. It's just the time isn't quit right just yet.
Ethan Cooper
Forest main here. Nerf B&B, I don't give a fuck. I'd rather it becoming unplayable than having to suffer another month of bitching about this card.
Julian Russell
discard dragon is the only honest dragon deck
Jeremiah Ramirez
You're still just playing shit on curve with that deck, maybe not in WLD but now with Staircase and Singer.
I sure hope they nerf Staircase, I'd rather have OTK be the relevant Elf deck next month than this.
Oliver Sanchez
didnt know aegis loses to banish and transform didnt know you can trade into aegis
Nicholas Foster
Didn't know Aegis came out on turn 6.
Daniel Garcia
>complaining about BnB Literally just x3 Hamsa+ x3 Fullmoon bro
Noah Cruz
>heal almost all his health while sticking 2 immortal followers, one evolved and nep in the field >play DB next turn I'm glad I was playing discard.
Tyler Sanchez
wow just in time for full moon maybe you should stop being a greedy cunt and start playing that card user-kun
Julian Parker
If EVERYONE needs to run 1 specific card just to counter that one other card, that's how you know that card is absolute cancer.
Gabriel Lewis
>EVERYONE I don't think so.
Michael Hughes
Good thing that's not the case.
Hunter Carter
Well, moonman counters much more than just bnb
Ryan Reed
>everyone Beginner?
Chase Allen
>muh banish >muh transform Basically everyone who matters.
Jackson Lopez
Nah, only sword, blood and shadow probably need to do that. The other classes have plenty of options.
Jack Cox
Pretty sure there are class options to deal with BnB, D rank.
Jaxson Howard
>shadow just eachtar bro just atomy bro >sword they already win by turn 6 if you dont draw kindly treant
John Bennett
Full moon is actually being used for BB, are you dumb? That's to show you how people don't care about 1/5 Eido- PDK.
William Walker
>Pretty sure there are class options to deal with BnB Only in Haven, Rune, and Forest.
Sebastian Price
I hope cygames listens to these literal D-ranks and nerfs BnB so I can get my vials back
Austin Williams
>ITS NOT FAIR I DONT WANT TO TRADE REEEE literally you
Grayson Perry
>tfw Atomy is a turn 4 10/10
Turn 6 9/10 get out of my way!
Charles Davis
>tfw you can't even Arriet Aegis
Daniel Cook
How do I optimize a Heresy Haven deck
Christopher Torres
>trade into something so overstatted even an evolved flame destroyer can't kill it
Carter Smith
I like how all those people proposing "counters" when in reality there hasn't been a single case of something being successfully "countered" once it became cancer because: A) have a second one immediately after that and you don't have a second one B)you're never going to draw it C)you will constantly get matched with decks that don't run the card you want to counter and it will be useless D)they have alternative wincons out the ass and you've just wasted your turn
>stats without immunities >relevant in removalverse And besides, Atomy isn't even the main star of that deck, he's mostly just a pressure tool and a shadow generator for the real wincon.
Ethan Mitchell
I got matched vs the most lucky Haven dude in take two playing Heresy. Do you want me to record and post it?
Christian Reyes
Yeah because that worked so well with spawn :^)
Hudson Bennett
Nforest literally only have 1 wincon, unlike PDK which has storm backup, sword which has multiple t5 options and Atomy deck with tyrant.
Daniel Thomas
>Comparing BnB with spawn
l m a o m a o
I fucking wish
Michael Sanders
>he doesn't know about NForest variants with backup wincons
Benjamin Peterson
They don't run roach anymore. Defensive wards are not wincon.
Dylan Scott
desu i am personally thinking to add a couple of tarzans to it...
Eli Walker
Jungle in t2 is absolutely a broken motherfucker.
Liam Cooper
You can have 20 Atomy while forest only have 3 BnB. People have to actually remove all the fucking Atomy and still die to tyrant while if they manage to remove all BnB they literally autowin.
Aaron Torres
Sahacraft Forest is a thing and is pretty good, even though it costs out the ass (50-60k vials tier). Some NForest decks run Jojophant as a backup. And Neutral Roach is also viable, likely to come back if Stairs ever get nerfed.
Tyler Powell
BnB roach is an entirely different thing. You play it differently than all other neutral deck.
Jaxson Powell
>barely remove BnB by trading your entire board >opponent plays another one
Jackson Lewis
I know. I'm just saying that's another way how B&B decks can be cancer.
Oliver Taylor
>Atomy can trade in a BnB and still survive
Guess we found our counter to the next tier 0 deck.
Jace Edwards
>20 atomeme That's a very nice imaginary scenario and everything, but if you're running 3 Ceredwin, 3 rise of the dead, 3 styx and 3 atomemes it's still not 20 and you're not going to ever pull it off in the first place with those bricks.
Levi Reyes
Why does dshift exist?
Owen Mitchell
Literally everyone can run the Saha package. All you need to be is skillful enough to go first :^)
Michael Myers
To ensure the meta will always be meta by putting down all control decks.
Kayden Lee
Err, I meant >the meta will always be aggro
Austin Parker
I deal with BnB with Midsword just fine. Control blood and Nep are the decks that really need moonman.
Jayden Nguyen
Have they changed the daily missions? I've been getting literally nothing but win 3, win 4, win 1 for 2 weeks straight. Not a single private match, evolve followers or ranked wins.
Isaac Jackson
Is this general worse than fgog?
Hunter James
Literally look at announcements. It's a bug that they're working on fixing. As soon as they fix it, everyone gets a free pack.
Ryan Hill
>2nd >2nd >2nd >2nd >2nd >Finally 1st >Brick hand
FUN AND INTERACTIVE
Jason Mitchell
You should go back and find out.
Leo Powell
That's a yes.
Nicholas Ortiz
>go 2nd >lose great game you've got here cygames.
Colton Reed
>playing actually fun vidya on one screen while shadowverse is on the other screen >play followers with storm on them and neetslut >don't even look at the screen while my opponent takes their turn >continue spamming storm into their face and win great game, thanks for the free GM KMR
Cameron Hill
A fucking pack isn't enough compensation for me having to fucking play 4-7 games of this piece of shit game every single day.