How did China do it without US aid?

Made me think

Chinese like their cigarettes

>without US aid
Who do you think buys their products?

Comparing China to India? Lets see...

China
>91% of the population ethnic Han
>Simplified Mandarin is taught in ever classroom in the country, understood by almost everyone and spoken fluently by the majority
>The vast majority of the population is concentrated into 1/3 of the land area of the country
>The nation has a history of unified rule and centralised government
>Centralised, totalitarian government

India
>Population fractured between several distinct ethnic groups (Tibetans, Indo-Aryans, Dravidians etc.) with each being further divided into regional ethnicities
>Several large and distinct languages/language families coexisting within the country, the largest being Hindi, spoken by ~40% of the population, with English being used as an administrative and business language as a legacy of colonialism, spoken by ~20%
>Population relatively evenly distributed across a very large land area
>A nation only unified for a handful of very brief points in history, spending most of its time as competing states, similar to Europe, its current unity is only possible in the wake of the British Raj
>Highly decentralised, democtratic government

India and China are two very different countries. Comparing them directly is like comparing the EU to the US.

Don't forget India's castes.

You do know what "aid" means, right?

What aid did the US give japan? Curious.

>>Simplified Mandarin is taught in ever classroom in the country, understood by almost everyone and spoken fluently by the majority

Wrong

Also
>hurdur you can't compare the two
Well I just did.

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Also

history.state.gov/milestones/1945-1952/japan-reconstruction

Kek

>Veeky Forums

How the fug does China do that with a billion people. Fucking ants or something I swear.

It helped that early on, the written language was unified, allowing the various dialects to coexist without turning into various languages and vastly different cultures as a result.

Unification of the language occurred over successive dynasties and took place alongside the centralization of govt.

China isn't communist

>just wade giles my shit up

Or maybe a central empire by force, much like France or Italy, taught common culture and eventually unified the disparate peoples?

They had US aid. Nixon tied their economy to the world.

>10k gdp per capita is an accomplishment now

See the thing is, China only became 90 percent Han (people who identify as Han) with a common Language of Mandarin because of successful reforms by the KMT and CCP.

Its not some magic property thats in chinese demographics, its just that Indians can't get their shit together long enough to actually unify and standardise the forms of communication in their country.

There you go, I just compared them.

The chinese learned that the best way to assert dominance is how the west does it; by killing the others that live on the land and reducing those lucky enough to survive to tiny plots from which they will whither into extinction.

Look at Australia's aborigines for example.

If the indians were able to do this maybe they would have their place i nthe sun too.

A job for every peasant and suicide nets for every building

Basically kept the country from starving the first 5 years.
Controlled the entire governmental apparatus for nearly a decade, after writing their consitution for them.
Eliminated their defense budget by acting as their protectors for decades.
Gave them knowledge in the form of experts like Robert Demming.

They didn't. China wouldn't be a country if it wasn't for the US

What did he mean by this

>Buying other guy's products.
>Make deals where you do their manufacturing.
>"aid"
Is profits & capital dole money for you?

How did the US do it in the first place without having the US around to give out aid? Is this proof that time travel must exist in the future?

No they just Borged everything culturally.
That's why their genetics vary a lot.

This

>China is communist
What. The. Fuck????

>by killing the others that live on the land

No actually, China has their own strategy thats very effective and been in practice for thousands of years.

Hanification of the regions that are not Han. Tibet/Xinjiang, etc. Suppress local religion/language/culture and make them dependent on the Han state, then limit travel to/from those areas, and finally assimilate them.

India stayed with socialist governments until the early 90s while Deng turned to capitalism in the late 70s, which seems to correlate with this shitty mspaint where I dragged India back 10 years.

I am very strongly in favor of democracy and I hope China sees reforms one day, though the fact is it is capitalism that drives economies.

See you in 10 years when China overtakes whatever irrelevant shithole you happen to live in.

Lmfao... Fuck off... U.S. or forgein aid is a detriment to developing nations. The U.S. didn't do shit to help China, that is not in their best interest.

it won't, development will slow soon as resources become strained and further growth either involves massive capital investment or new technology like other developed countries

The greatest irony is that China, the "communist" country pursued crazed industrial growth and foreign export while India the "regular" economic was actually highly socialist and closed off from the world only opening up in the 90s, so China go the head start.

The majority of Indians who arent bumfuck farmers can understand and use English

China was an idea and unified state for centuries, India hardly ever was, India is literally western Europe with more poo.

>China prospered thanks to capitalism but they should stop doing what they're doing by stealing all of the steel production from the United States because it's not true capitalism™ therefore it's wrong

PICK ONE ALREADY YOU BREITBART READING IDIOTS

>The greatest irony is that China, the "communist" country pursued crazed industrial growth

Yeah dude, no other country has been smart enough to "pursue industrial growth". You've found the secret.

It's a better romanization than Pinyin.

>Wrong
How is that wrong? Most educated Chinese can speak Mandarin and read simplified characters.

>america outsources all of its manufacturing to china
>china becomes powerful
not rocket science

No it isn't. It helps a lot of nations in various ways and there is good and bad ways to do aid but if you are a dumbass you would only think in extremes anyways so you won't get it.

>Lots of meme poor countries have been doing US manufacturing before China.
>India, Southeast Asia, etc.
>China does it.
>Skyrockets.
Still no explaino shitto, desu.

Not on the scale China does and China has the unquiet advantage of a massive educated population and an even more massive underclass to fuel it's manufacturing. They continually depress wages and have no worker's rights and every worker is extremely replaceable with an even more desperate peasant as well as being huge pushovers.

So you just admitted it: it's not just about manufacturing.
>being huge pushovers
Not really China at all given that the Chinese public is the most rebellious bunch of cunts in the planet going by their history. So clearly the government did a lot of compromises with their people to get from Mao tier to here tier.

Besides China is also good at keeping news of unrest down. They've had a lot of peasant and worker uprisings within the PRC time period, with the most recent one at 2012 in Wukan. and with the exception of that one weird incident where a Chinese village believed that Chiang Kai Shek and the ROC is landing in Southern China and the Tienanmen Square, all were met with compromise and even acceding to the requests of protestors.

Frankly the survival of the CCP is down to two reasons
1) During Mao's time: the horrid 19th Century and early 20th century pretty much convinced the Chinese that peace under the CCP is preferable than much war.
2) Deng reforms.

Not Chinks being pushovers. If they continued under Mao's programs they wouldve collapsed into meme infighting.

Bumpan

>Communist Party controls all banks and important industries directly
>Special Economic Zones have low taxes for multinational corporations
>CCP invests half of its budget into capital infrastructure
>CCP builds more highways in a year than India has since 1949
>CCP intentionally keeps wages very low for workers whilst upping their production quotas- so basically their employers make more money as they employees make less
>CCP pegs their currency below US dollar to make sure that exports are very cheap and imports and very expensive- Chinese have poor consumption power

>China also has massive debt
>local governments in China are incredibly in debt
>have awful tax collection
>have an enormous amount of non-performing loans it has handed out
>China is struggling to move up in the manufacturing chain from consumer goods to cars, electronics
>China has huge migration problem
>China has a huge demographic imbalance due to one child policy causing the murder of baby girls
>China has huge inequality between rural and urban areas
>China has rising separatist movements in Tibet and Xinjiang

China has a long history of revolt and protest. In fact even today China has 150,000 riots a year and those are only the ones we know about.

>150,000 riots
>150,000
wut

Sorry, I meant to say "riots and protests" and Elizabeth Economy, who is a renowned scholar on Chinese society estimates it actually at 180,000.

blogs.cfr.org/asia/2012/02/07/a-land-grab-epidemic-chinas-wonderful-world-of-wukans/

everyone values industrial growth but how committed they are is another matter, a typical generalissimo would rather spend $1000000 now than invest it and receive maybe $50000 a year if he is lucky