The probable course is that the "perot pole" gets its day in the sun...

>The probable course is that the "perot pole" gets its day in the sun, gets the disasterous results that are going to happen with protectionism and isolationism - and then the energy pole will rise as it becomes clear that the only way out, is forward. This path will damage the US tremendously, because the rest of the world isn't in as bad a position as it was in 1930. We will inflict Smoot-Hawley on ourselves, but the rest of the world will not want to play along. It will squander the last of the post-war position of the US, for no benefit.

source?

hey at least now we might finally get rid of the damn electoral college. it no longer serves its intended use and just gets us great presidents like W Bush and now Trump

>that delicious feel when libtards blame hicks and hillbillies for electing W/Trump but it was actually because of the electoral college all along, the institution designed to prevent the hoi polloi from deciding elections

it's a nice feel lads

muh alarmism

Except there is actual reason to be alarmed, regardless of whether or not you support Hillary.

We'll see how things turn out over the next 4 years but this is most likely a disasterous move by the US both domestically and the on the global scene.

>he thinks less globalism is a disaster

I'll bet you think brexit was a disaster as well.

>highly interconnected global economy that has brought prosperity to people.
>lets go back to the good ol' days when we were good and had an imaginary enemy to fight.

Hahahahaha

What's it like to be proven wrong at every turn? I bet you laughed when they told you Trump was running for president.

As a libertarian who supports laissez-faire free market capitalism and free trade, Trump will be a disaster for the country. His economic policy is Bernie-tier and the U.S. needs immigrants to maintain birth rates and remain competitive in a global economy.

You protectionists and socialists will pay dearly for this.

>brought prosperity to people

AHAHAHA wow you've really drunk the koolaid huh?

Pro-tip: most people have not recovered from the 2008 crash and having your rural German village overrun by thousands of (((refugees)))) is not anyone's definition of prosperity

ah yes. Economic indices don't matter.
Only feelings do.

this, we need smaller government, less regulation and freer markets

we don't need fascist socialist collectivist drumpfkins who have never read an economics book making decisions

The US isn't going to beat China in a trade war and the only manufacturing jobs that will return to the US aren't going to be as great as people rememeber them being.

Donald Trump wants to return America back to the golden years of the 50's. The rest of the world however is no longer in the 50's.

>U.S. needs immigrants

Yeb pls go.

Also why is it that foreign immigration is the go-to solution for maintaining the work force? Why shouldn't the government incentivize native citizens to have more children?

>muh shekels

there is more to life than shekels rabbi

>europe not at each other's throats
>living standards the highest they have ever been.
>healthcare standards improving regularly.
>automation means more specialized jobs will be there to boost prosperity.
Lets all dump that and go back to the golden 50's.

Sure thing poorfag.

>live in an era of material prosperity and wealth.
>shekels aren't important.
Alright cletus.
What is important in life. Apart from moonshine and cousin LuanneMarie.

there's no pockets in a shroud

Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness

;^)

because you are generally looking for skilled/unskilled labor immediately and incentivizing people to have more babies that may or may not become the skilled labor takes a lot of time and is largely uncertain.

But importing hordes of 3rd worlders will provide skilled labor? Yes I'm sure Achmed and Jamal will be designing the next generation of BMWs.

Kek

oh look. a strawman.

How about Doctor Pajeet and engineers Zhao and Ming instead?
You import educated and skilled workers because they contribute positively to your economy dumbass.

Do you honestly believe that the number of educated Chinese/Indian/whatever immigrants is in any way comparable to to swathes of refugees and illegals flooding into western countries?

do you honestly believe that every refugee will permanently stay in europe?
Most of them will be sent back when shit gets better, which should be soon since trump and putin are apparently BFFs.

>Do I want stay in a cushy modern apartment with indoor plumbing, government benefits and blonde sloots or return to a war torn blistering sandbox?

Hmmm...

The electoral college wasn't designed to frustrate the popular vote since the only ones who could vote when it was conceived were white landholding men.

>implying refugees have a choice.
They are going to get deported dumbass. All the muzzies did was get everyone to hate them.

The whole point of the electoral college was to provide a buffer against direct democracy.

You really think the f*cking EU is going to start rounding up refugees and putting them on trains? Absolutely delusional honestly.

Well their member nations are if muzzies keep chimping out.
Lets face it, europe is also going the america way because people want to experience change. They can start with drowning all the "refugees"

The only nation I could realistically see doing this is Poland. The countries that matter like France and Germany are too far cucked.

However, I hope you're right honestly.

>far too cucked
this is a futile discussion.

>globalism

If you don't want me to say your trigger words you need to let me know what they are at the start of the discussion.

>trigger words
well seeing as you need to have a sexual metaphor for everything, discussing stuff with you is utterly pointless.

The EU can only take so many refugees, and since france and germany have actual democratic systems, people those who are against the immigration bullshit will vote for parties that reflect those demands. They could possibly form parts of the next governments in france and germany, because when you push an ideology so intensely there is bound to be a backlash.

This wouldn't be a problem if the refugees themselves were harmless, but since they are being seen as subversive and against the native people of the country, people will want them and their cultural enrichment out.

>Sexual language on Veeky Forums! Good heavens

After you're done clutching your pearls, you'll have to consider the actual logistics of forcibly deporting millions of refugees and whether given the current cultural climate and obvious historical parallels the EU nations actually have the stomach to carry out such an operation.

>putting them on trains?
boats and planes mostly.

As for the US, well Obama has done more deportations than anyone in history.

>logistics
pretty simple with the financial wherewithal that the EU has. NATO has engaged in several humanitarian operations before and would be happy to help send potential extremists away from their member state's lands.

Logistics is the least of your concerns this day, what lacks is the political conviction. If shit changes, the refugees are going to go away.

also
>muh swear words about fucking
it makes you sound like a teenager who discovered what a blowjob is. Its pretty cringy lad. You can talk about a country's immigration policy without inserting your fetish into it.

>U.S. needs immigrants

I think the answer to the immigration question won't really be obvious until after the coming global sovereign debt crisis. The welfare state is about to collapse, and once it does all Americans are going to have to be forced to abandon political centrism. Everyone is going to have to choose a side, laissez-faire capitalism or yet another attempt at full on socialism.

If capitalism wins out, then I see no reason for having to restrict immigration. Borders really are just a crutch for what is an internally weak society. An American society that reverted back to minarchism would naturally push out people that had no intention to completely assimilate. The only permanent immigrants would be the kind that shows up with a thick accent & a cowboy hat on, rambling about how great he thinks white men's ideas are and how awesome capitalism is.

I believe it is possible to build a country on an idea rather than an ethnicity, but it is a monumental task. I sympathize with nationalists who think we're fucking insane/retarded for suggesting such a thing is even possible.