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Silver an easily discarded shit. I'm actually kinda sorry about that.
Connor Rogers
Forces: Seems like it's middle of the road. Level design is overly basic, but there's fun setpieces. Music is mixed but there's a good 5-10 bangers in there based on the limited set we've heard so far. Ending and story is anticlimatic but the dialogue itself is a step above Colors etc. The game might not be too long (thirty 1-3min levels) but additional bonus stuff not to mention all the additonal Wispon unlocks.
Plus the cheaper pricetag. It's better than we expected but worse than we'd hoped. Underwhelming at best, medicore at worst.
Charles Watson
Nope, Soleanna isn't in the game.
Jackson Hill
I can't believe Knuckles is fucking dead
Connor Perry
Tails is
Kayden Roberts
Can Flynn save him?
Aiden Cooper
A CUTE HERO
Benjamin Clark
Fleetway Sonic is best Sonic.
Mason Morgan
Hoodies
Jason Stewart
The amount of time we had to wait for the game is the biggest thing against the game to me.
Brayden Taylor
>Silver an easily discarded shit. To be fair this is true for all of the characters. I knew I shouldn't have gotten my hopes up for the characters being in the game... but at least they were there, right?
Ryan Mitchell
A LITTLE BITCH.
Zachary Martinez
Basically this, although I liked the music a bit more. It's a solid entry, but not worth the 4 year wait. If we had waited a year or two for this game, there probably wouldn't be as much vitriol towards it.
Everyone in the game did something in some way except Tails.
Infinite is already a fun character, with a pretty funny achillies heel. Ian will love him.
Josiah Sanchez
This. I wouldn't even mind if this just came out two years after Lost World. But the fact that they took FOUR YEARS and THIS is the best they can do? It's laughably embarrassing.
Adrian Martin
Chances are it would've been out sooner but Boom bombing (heh) forced them to retool the whole thing to include the avatar system.
Jaxon Campbell
Defend this shit.
Nathan Cook
I suppose in someway it's fair to point out that 2 of those 4 years likely went into making the new engine from scratch & the fact that this is the first game they developed for a next gen console. Also, I guess the rumor that was posted here during E3 was true
Jacob Lewis
Neither are wrong
Sebastian White
So any information regarding the Silver Moon Rings in Forces as well as the rest of the Special and EX Stages?
Robert Reed
All 3 games were directed by the same person & he really likes the games he made. I'm used to meh final bosses in Sonic, so the lazy name they gave it is the biggest offense, tbqh.
Leo Roberts
>user posts my art here before I get a chance I'm flattered. Thank you.
That was kind of bullshit but at least he got to do something. Or at least more than the other characters got a chance to. Am I cucked for being kind of happy about that?
Well wasn't half of that spent on the Hedgehog 2 Engine iirc? Maybe the next game won't take as long to make. R-right?! ;_;
Brayden Reed
It was fun in Colors
Thomas Roberts
Okay.
Brayden Rogers
B-but....user. You said Colours was best Sonniku game. He return to roots. You riked it!!
Logan Brown
Yeah, but he tried to fight Infinite, lost, and was forgotten about afterward. But that's still more than everyone else who basically stood around until that hilariously underwhelming clone fight. Why is Omega coming back, unexplained so far, such a big deal when there's a horde of Zavok's that would've fucked him up? Oh right, no one else matters despite the circumstances.
Secret and EX stages only unlock clothes and increase world saving percent.
I think this is one of the few instances where I'd say yeah, you shouldn't settle for this kind of shit. And this is coming from someone that doesn't really care for Silver.
Lucas Barnes
Tails was fighting along with everyone else in that cutscene.
I don't know what happens if you get silver moon rings though. Do you obtain Chaos Emeralds?
Easton Collins
You cheeky fuck.
Leo Davis
What are numbered rings?
Wyatt Jackson
Like the ones in Lost World that grant you extra lives.
Jason Campbell
>Sonic broke out of his cycle just to end up in the Zelda cycle Just two more games and people will start praising Forces.
Jordan Hill
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Chase Adams
Exactly. Forces coming out in 2015 would be fine, still not ideal, but 4 years for a mediocre game is a very tough pill to swallow.
Nathan Morgan
Does anyone have a link to the livestream?
Cooper Ross
so when are we going to see the next sonic game ?
Chase Walker
The next game may or may not take some time. Supposedly they're going back to the drawing board after Forces, but given that they don't have to make a new engine it may take less time.
Fantastic.
Hudson Brooks
I know I shouldn't but it was nice to see him get a bit of attention... I can't believe Sonic Team has made me this complacent where settling for scraps are enough to make me feel kind of excited about a character doing something. What the fuck. Is this part of their master plan? To build up hype every game by thinking the side characters will actually do something, then you buy it and it turns out like this?
Carter Price
So once you get 5 red rings, you get the ability to get numbered rings, and then moon rings?
2019 most likely. 2018 will probably be a quiet year, hopefully SEGA Europe can give us a new PC port or something.
>Supposedly they're going back to the drawing board after Forces And where was this said?
Daniel Jenkins
Why is Sonic just standing there?
Samuel Walker
I never noticed this before, considering I fast forward through the cutscenes.
Leo Powell
so what are we going to do while we wait for 2019 ?
Blake Davis
Yet another game full of wasted potential.
Sebastian Barnes
Shitpost about Forces I guess
Cameron Rivera
Well not so much as going back to the drawing board, but it seems like they're going to do something different after Forces:
>: It was very interesting for me to see Sonic Mania come out, get very high scores and have people praise the game. From the team's perspective, we're still going to be making 3D games for the audience that likes that style of Sonic - when we see the reactions that Mania got, the entire team sat down and thought it was really interesting, and we should break down what people liked about Mania, and in the future - when we build our 3D games - see what essence we can take from Sonic Mania and put into a 3D world, to give people what they're looking for and that they've found in Sonic Mania.
Shitpost about the comics.
Michael Cook
What do they have to do with the red rings though?
Andrew Fisher
Comics will be the only thing the general has again. Not super looking forward to that, but not much we can do.
Angel Gonzalez
How fast will /sthg/ once infinite's identity is revealed?
Ian Perez
>mfw realizing Jimmy the Motobug was an illusion along with the Hardboiled Heavies
That's it. We need to get rid of lizuka. That's unironically too fucking far.
Logan Cox
Flynn could easily save him. Flynn saved Silver, Charmy, and motherfucking Big. Infinite is easy.
Mania isn't even confirmed to be all illusion. Calm your autism.
Xavier Clark
There's nothing to reveal.
Josiah Allen
wow thanks for pointing that out
it never really settled in that Sonic doesn't even bother retaliating, he legitimately closes his eyes and covers himself
what the fuck sonic
Jason Walker
It's just a Motobug user, we kill them all the time in Sonic.
Jason Jenkins
Is sonic forces gonna be single player only? Because I cant see any multiplayer or coop tag on its steam page
Gavin Bell
The Phantom Ruby creates illusions that bend reality, basically making those illusions real.
That means the entirety of Mania is Sonic, Tails, Knuckles, Eggman, and five random Egg Robos running around Angel Island in a stupor like retards thinking they're traversing all over the planet.
Christian Sullivan
Post the two Sonics one.
Leo Butler
Unless he does it in the final Forces comic, I doubt he gets much of a chance to in IDW Sonic.
Jonathan Walker
No, what you see is what you get.
Ayden Morgan
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Blake Campbell
>Spoiler That's the entire franchise in a nutshell. Why am I devoted so such a cursed series.
This scene was so weird. It really felt like they don't understand "show, don't tell".
This made no sense to me either. Why is he cowering? Initially this scene for me really hyped but then when I rewatched it I was like... what the fuck? Why?
Sonic doesn't have it in him to hurt Shadow. To be honest that's very odd. I get that they had to have the real Shadow come in & take out the fake one, but Sonic just cowering is stupid
Hunter Torres
JUST A GUY WHO LOVES ADVENTURE
Josiah Gomez
We don't even know what he looks like under the mask. There's obviously stuff to be revealed.
Jayden Long
Single player only.
Michael Murphy
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Isaac Price
Sonic knows that there is no getting out of the kick so he's just bracing for impact
Caleb Clark
Aaron also mentioned that the final comic isn't coming out until the time Forces drops because it contains major spoilers. And the final comic shows Infinite unmasked with a sword. Adding that in with the Shadow DLC that's also supposed to go in detail about Infinite's origins, we still have a decent amount left to reveal about the guy.
Christian Garcia
I don't think the Forces comic is fair judgement. He's writing the way Sega wants him to write, so he can't take too many creative liberties with the characters. The fact that he toned down Omega's personality to be like his game counterpart instead of his quirkier Archie counterpart in the last comic says a fair bit.
Brayden Myers
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Henry Evans
Can somebody please explain
Mason Lopez
Yu-Gi-Oh reference.
Xavier Cook
Children's Cardgame.
Brody Hernandez
I'm not actually super angry or anything, but I'll admit it's a tad vexing that Mania features Sonic getting screwed out of a good ending explicitly because they wanted to tie it in with Forces, but then in Forces nothing about Mania Sonic is even touched upon outside of the Ruby (which has a retconned origin anyway) and his theme plays when he shows up. It's not that big a deal but it does seem kind of miffing because Mania could have very easily had a regular ending instead of a tie-in that ultimately goes underutilized and just hurts its narrative.
Tyler Moore
A TWO-TAILED FOX
Anthony Phillips
Watch episode shadow be better than sonic forces
Lucas Jenkins
HOLY SHIT A MUTANT FOX
Bentley Sanchez
Thank you kind sir ^^
William Howard
The entire shitshow that the archie comics were before that wave hit, can anyone really blame Sonic? Why is he calling him Rock? I feel so sorry for the both of them, Capcom and Sega fucked them so hard over the years. Their best representations were guests in a party fighter
Bentley Moore
Please. Please just give more DLC in general.
Joshua Gonzalez
Classic Sonic's levels should have just had playable Tails. After Tails learns that Sonic is alive, he works to redeem himself and help Sonic save the world any way he can, pretty much playing his part of the story out without Classic.
Jose Nelson
Judging by the level design in the preview the Sonic Youtube uploaded, nope. Music is definitely better though.
Andrew Walker
>which has a retconned origin anyway
Lincoln Bailey
>inb4 DLC has Super Shadow
Julian Hughes
I wouldn't even say it's retconned. One of the Phantom Ruby prototypes that Infinite was destroying made it's way to Classic Sonic's dimension, where Eggman found it on Angel Island. Done.
Andrew Powell
Let's say Buddy was actually a set Sonic character, with his red wolf design being his consistent appearance.
What would his personality be like?
Aiden Richardson
>Thanking people >Using emoticons, positive or otherwise >Using a honorific We don't take kindly to those who take kindly 'round these parts.
Michael Cook
Nerd who's a massive fanboy for Sonic & friends. Trying to get Knuckles autograph, spilling his spaghetti over Amy, etc.
John Cooper
Brave, Bashful boy who works well with others
Isaac Hall
That's reasonable user, but if you have to make a headcanon for it because the game didn't explain it, then it's still a discrepancy that contradicts previous information, which is a retcon.
Luis Walker
Dork who is constantly bullied.
Kayden Watson
Alternatively, you could avoid being a little bitch and let people type the way they want.