it presupposes that "Europe" is some monolithic, singular force
from pretty much the 15th century (essentially the beginning of modernity) and up, the world was dominated by Europe in politics, science, law you name it...so of course alot of modern history is going to be focused on Europe
its like the retard in my class the complained why we weren't talking about why we weren't talking about some imaginary African scientists when discussing Isaac Newton and the Royal Society...
now it's pretty much a catch all term for "White influence" similar to how "decolonization" is a catch all term for "no white influence"
Henry Hernandez
sorry for the "why we weren't talking" double typo
Cameron Cook
>from pretty much the 15th century (essentially the beginning of modernity) and up, the world was dominated by Europe in politics, science, law you name it...so of course alot of modern history is going to be focused on Europe
>I'm too dumb to learn about non-European history.
I thought you'd start off smart, like claiming that since most modern states have the duty to inoculate their citizens with their world view, and most states in the west have a classical liberal view, they would use the source of classical liberalism as a view back to where they began ideologically, then morph that into a discussion on how the major economic expansion happened during a period when people of euro descent had it easier to make money since due to improving medicine they could leverage the annual increase of demand from the population as rent, and therefore that's why the top .1 is usually Euro, but you didn't, you went /pol/tard, and now this thread will be shut down.
Liam Wilson
Perhaps it is useful to remind ourselves of some of the values which western culture supports
equality before a codified law and equal access to it, place and position open to all by merit and open competition (rather than nepotism and interest), monogamy, the right to chose and follow the religion of one's choice (or no religion at all) free speech and many less important tenets. These are all directly in opposition to Islamic culture
Jose Moore
>muh clash of the cibilizations.
All of those aren't inherntly ""western"" , (Is Pooland west? Is Brazil? Is Lebanon?) Tunisia has the best rule of law in history, and is a muslim country. Simple ideas and broad strokes, while easy for your typical idiot to grasp, aren't true.
Angel Nelson
name one non-euro scientist that has the influence as Isaac Newton
I'll wait?
Caleb Wilson
Different guy here, but I think that's a bad example.
I mean., name a European scientist that has the same influence as Isaac Newton.
Eli Nguyen
Einstein
Kayden Martin
Eurocentrism is a valid term that is misused. Of course it is possible to have a bias in favor of Europe or great men and that is something we need to watch out for. Though I more often see eurocentrism used to describe something that overwhelmingly involved Europe or the great man theory used to describe how individuals are often the subject of history than I do people showing clear bias in favor of europe or great men.
Ayden Anderson
Leibniz.
Noah Baker
That's true,
also, I would like to add Euclid as a non-euro who heavily influenced science.
Tyler Miller
>Greek Socratic philosopher living in Alexandria
You are technically correct.
The best kind of correct.
Evan Ramirez
greeks are non-euro now?
Jayden Lopez
Leibniz was most likely a top 10 mind of all time, but his scientific influence was minimal (despite developing the better calculus than Newton)
Luke Ward
Al Haytham, the guy who wrote the textbooks Newton used. Funny , your type would call him ((European))
Robert Harris
I would argue that those born in Alexandria are, yes.
Unless you feel that the property of being European is tied to state, versus geographical location.
Lincoln Taylor
Al Haytham was no where near as influential as Newton
The Principia is the most influential scientific book of all time, bar none...it ushered in modern science as we know it
Haytham frankly comes no where near close and no scientist would think he comes clsoe
you obviously have no idae what you are talking about
Jackson Gutierrez
to say that Newton used Al-Haytham's work does not mean that Haytham was more influential than Newton to science
because he was no where near..
Newton is literally the greatest scientist of all time
Carson Walker
That's not what eurocentrism is, fucking retard
Christian Garcia
what is it then you fucking retard?
Jayden Williams
Poland absolutely is western. European, Catholic and white.
Gabriel Morgan
>""muh skin color""
Damn this is dumb. Is Jamaica western?
If you say no, then I'm ignoring everything your Stormfag ass posts from now.
Kevin Lewis
>physical location means you're part of the west Are you retarded
Caleb Adams
>from pretty much the 15th century (essentially the beginning of modernity) and up, the world was dominated by Europe in politics, science, law you name it
I must have missed the part of history where Europe colonized the world nigh simultaneously instead of it being a gradual process over hundreds of years that affected certain areas sooner and greater than others eventually culminating in the world being dominated by the late 19th century.
Carson Powell
Poland is European, Jamaicans are literally former slaves from Africa. Are you this dumb?
Andrew Moore
I really, really hope you're just being ironically stupid.