Dota 2 gen /d2g/

>INFORMATION & GUIDES
Latest patch: store.steampowered.com/news/31846/
New players: purgegamers.true.io/g/dota-2-guide/
New players (League refugee edition): dotabuff.com/learn/lol
Wiki: dota2.gamepedia.com/
Blog: blog.dota2.com/
Lore: dev.dota2.com/showthread.php?t=35923
Guides: steamcommunity.com/app/570/guides
Cosmetic simulator: d2armory.com/
Competitive Scene: wiki.teamliquid.net/dota2/Main_Page
Interactive Map: devilesk.com/dota2/apps/interactivemap/

>STATISTICS
Competitive DOTA 2 analysis: datdota.com/
DOTA 2 analysis: dotametrics.wordpress.com/
Personal statistics: dotabuff.com/
Personal statistics#2: opendota.com/
Hero stats: devilesk.com/dota2/heroes/herodata/
Hero and DPS calculator: devilesk.com/dota2/apps/hero-calculator/

>NEWS & STREAMS
joindota.com/
gosugamers.net/
liquiddota.com/
Streamlink: github.com/streamlink/streamlink
GUI: github.com/streamlink/streamlink-twitch-gui

DUELLING FATES / 7.07; dota2.com/duelingfates

Previously on d2g:

This entire patch is a mess

WILLOW BEST GIRL

MOVE OVER YOU SLUTS

feed me dotards

Rate the accuracy of this depiction of the 7.07 patch.

A beautiful, beautiful mess.

I think tide will be an unironically strong p1.

>250 damage talent
>anchor smash gives 75% damage reduction with talent
You get an unbelievably tanky carry that just makes any melee rival nope out, and focusing him is as awkward as always because ravage.

will plsying dota help reduce my refractory period and soft erections? i need help bros

i want to pollinate willow vigorously

>our girl pugna get btfo by the new girl

Mireska Sunbreeze is CUTE
Mireska Sunbreeze is a MID

wtf do you build on the willow hero if you go mid tho

alive?

I wonder what pushed Ice Frog to sperg out that much...

I did some tests on the new hp regen formula.

>level 25 dragon knight with armlet, double passive talent, and the 40 str talent (161,5 total str including 25 from armlet active)
Old formula: 0 + (0,06 * 161,5) + (24+7) = 40,69 hp/sec. Old armlet drains 45 per second, leading to a 4,31 hp drain
New formula: (0+1,5)+(4+20)*((0,007 * 161,5)+1) = 54,33 hp/sec. New armlet drains 54, leading to a 0,33 hp regen.

I'm aware the 40 str talent didn't exist in the old patch, but adding a heart instead would just muddle the results. Buying a pipe adjusts the results accordingly:
old: flat 12 hp regen increase
new: 8,5 regen on item, 18,11 hp regen increase after str adjustments. Meaning you need at least 58 str to break even with old pipe.

>level 15 doom with scorched earth talent (old 55, new 40) and vlads in inventory
Old: 0 + (0,06 * 80,5) + (55+3) = 62,83 hp regen
New: (0+1,5)+(40+2,5)*((0,007 * 80,5)+1) = 66,45 hp regen

>same test without the talents (old 40, new 30 scorched base regen)
Old: 47,83 hp/sec
New: 53,16 hp/sec

>Dota 2 gen

Reminder that position 3 is the true alpha role and you can win half of your games by cucking the enemy carry out of his superior farm.

plz download the test client so we can play with people

im going to sleep now dotards

can shit like meepo net hit willow when shes in the shadow realm?

>ursas nuke covers the whole fucking screen with the talent

defend this doturds

How do you build him now? He mainly needs mana and a way to keep people in the nethertoxin. Atos rush? He already has a lot of slow though, so maybe Veil first? Straight aghs rush with an aquila early?

my eral keys are broken

if you don't need to click on her to cast it then the skill will affect her.

dota 2 gen
atta boy, you unironically made me proud.
Gen posters win this round

>tfw banish yourself to the shadow realm

>everybody saying it's the lol patch
>read it
>it's actually the hon patch

WHAT THE FUCK

Why even play normal dota if you have cool shit like that?

fuck

maxing bramble maze first and ganking with willow
Y/N?

Most poorfag dotards never even played HoN becasue it cost money to play while it was relevant

STOP ADDING LEAGUE-TIER HEROES
STOP ADDING LEAGUE-TIER HEROES
STOP ADDING LEAGUE-TIER HEROES

NOT EVERY HERO NEEDS ITS OWN SPECIAL MECHANICS
NOT EVERY HERO NEEDS ITS OWN SPECIAL MECHANICS
NOT EVERY HERO NEEDS ITS OWN SPECIAL MECHANICS

NOT EVERY HERO NEEDS MOBILITY SKILLS
NOT EVERY HERO NEEDS MOBILITY SKILLS
NOT EVERY HERO NEEDS MOBILITY SKILLS

hon/lol sameshit, except one's a dead game and the other is played by 12 year old horny boys. why you would wish to imitate either of them while releasing puss-in-boots as a hero I have no idea.

But that's not turbo mode.

SO YOU HAD A BAD DAY

Why is nobody talking about this?

>Each day 10 heroes are selected automatically as bonus heroes for the day. Bonus heroes provide you with a free mango on selection (cannot be sold).
>Each day 10 heroes are selected

Do we fucking need this? Do we need to turn Dota into LoL?

every big patch gulagites cry league patch so you should expect it by now

>league tier
>special mechanics

Every hero in League is a facsimile of the other aside from some pointless mini-game mechanics that make brainlets feel smart. Kind of like Invoker.

Why the fuck does dark willow has 5 skills

>league heroes
>special mechanics
lol more like convoluted bullshit designed to obfuscate the fact that the new champ is the exact same as any other in their role
also only one of the new heroes has a mobility skill

because its boring after the 50th 1200 attack range guy who has 150 damage at level 1

willow neither has a special mechanic or mobility skill

but they do. STOP. LIKING. WC3!!!! THIS IS VALVE'S GAME NOW.

damage talent

HOW THE FUCK IS THIS EVEN REAL

HOW THE FUCK IS THIS EVEN ACCEPTABLE

FUCK YOU ICEFROG

I want to fuck Willow
Pangolin is one of the worst nuDota heroes.

LMAO FREE ULT

7.00 was the """HotS patch""" and now it's the """"""HoN patch"""

like clockwork

BATTLEFURY TIDE'S BACK ON THE MENU

it's whatever
a fucking mango
put it in your backpack if you hate it so much

Does that apply to ranked too?

because icefrog read /d2g/ shitposting about how TB had 2 ultimates so he made a hero that literally had two ultimates

> Beastmaster
+RANDOM CREEP LMAO
> Broodmother
R.I.P.
> Morphling
Good Rubick
> Tiny
Literally Deadwood
> Viper
Fuck you, PA XD

>choosing the meme talent instead of FREE cooldown reduction on fucking tide

5.4k bara spammer here

should I be worried?

Pangolin is hot af but goddamn his mechanics are so awful. He's objectively not weak but he feels that way, too awkward.
Willow looks fun though.

So there's no more point to grinding mmr anymore?

Am I finally free?

more fuckable girl heroes will save dota, willow was a step in the right direction

>it's another 3 years of xyclopz casting for BTS
OH NO ITS WIPER

Okay let's be honest here for a second

which of these would you choose to play now:
Dota as it was 4, 5 years ago?
or the current patch?

hope you like what valve considers the meta. :^)

anybody played the frenchie yet?

holy shit he's awful and not fun at all to play

Yes, now you have to git gud if you want to get to 6k instead of spamming heroes that frustrate solo pub players.

free movement not being diabled by damage is huge for brood though

you're not good.

repostan

like clockwerk*
ftfy

I don't care. I only care about gaining MMR.

A-are we free from the jungling LC menace now?

Which HoN hero would be stealth added next?
I hope for bassed Chipper.

>take away brood's invisiblity
>give her nothing to compensate

????
literally a useless hero

Beastmaster and Wraith King jungles are thew new cancer now.

Have fun.

current patch easily

i think you look back nostalgically at the previous years because you don't remember the level of imbalance the game was at 4-5 years ago

where are the willow r34s
ffs

this desu
having to draft decent tree clear/having quelling blades is a lot harder than plopping down a sentry late game

>my free mmr hero, visage is buffed
>free dagon
>free skadi
>now free demonedge

>tfw too stupid to understand mana and health regen changes

What makes a carry a carry? Jugg is a carry because he has spell immunity and a crit skill. When the damage from talent gets as high as 250, that's by itself as good as a full crit skill.

Is GoodDagonwithaoeStun good?

>counterable invis and breakable pathing
vs
>UNSTOPPABLE PATHING

Willow would be better if she was flatter and had a bigger butt.
Yay or nay?

Slark is broken now especially with the new items.

but this patch gave us literally tracer from hots on multiple heroes

where's my nigga salforis or that gangsta amun-ra?

>broken
>gets destrroyed by hex

>Spin Web pathing/speed buff is no longer removed when taking damage
>Spiders now have 50% magic resistance.
>Spiders armor increased by 8
>Spin Web charges increased from 1/2/3/4 to 2/4/6/8 (matches amount you can place)
>+75 Insatiable Hunger Damage/Lifesteal

But WK jungle actually works because he can do a proper skill build and come out to help lanes without shrine/fountain. He doesn't need MUH 6... 8... 15 MINUTE BLINK, just level 6 and treads.
Shit, if you want you can max aura after stun and play him pos4 with Vlads. Become walking right click buddy of life.

doesn't matter if anyone can just bully her out of lane, literally any hero beats her

Hope you like zombies fags

>Tombstone
>Die and summon another tombstone
>Reincarnate
>Refresh
>More tombstone
>Die and reincarnate
>Lmao another tombstone and reincarnate
>Die again
>Fifth tombstone
Aegis activates

scales more based on how much str/int you have

so does the slark river buff and the treant tree talent actually do anything or is it just meme shit from the frog?

>uses bkb and kills the guy with sheep stick while also not being picked against lion and rhasta

wow hard

JUST BUY A 6K GOLD ITEM GUYS

bully her into trees, you mean.

I just came here to tell you that atmospheric fog during night time is back

all items now provide flat mana regen
Int provides percent increase to mana regen
Str provides percent increase to health regen

slark is unironically a bottom 5 now after the buff to hex (including lions and shadow shamans hexes)
other heroes in the bottom 5 are probably melee mids that really arent viable safelane like ember spirit, unless its melee vs melee, i think the only melee mids left are dk and maybe bloodseeker.

JUST TP OUT

>agility 0 + 0
rip tiny i will miss you

Yes, which is why it is a problem.

With new attribute abilities :^) on top of it, this game will be worse than League.

>Heroes with turn rates of 0.4 are improved to 0.5 (Mirana, Puck, Razor, Shadow Shaman, Tidehunter, Witch Doctor, Warlock, Beastmaster, Veno, Wraith King, Viper, Clinkz, Enchantress, Spectre, Spirit Breaker, Lone Druid, Elder Titan, Oracle, and Winter Wyvern)

Might as well just remove turn rate and be a LoL clone.

brood needs to dominate her lane to have any impact on the game

I got you senpai

Remember the larper who said windrunner wil be first p/b? She's still dumpster tier, situational,at best