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>What is Space Station 13?
youtube.com/watch?v=FHH1vfY6HTA
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>New player guide
ss13.moe/wiki/index.php/The_Basics
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>BYOND client
byond.com/download/build/LATEST/

>Pomf Serbian, main Veeky Forumsstation server
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>Test server
byond://ss13.moe:1337

>Public server list
byond.com/games/exadv1/spacestation13

>How do I connect to the servers?
Hit the cogwheel in the upper right corner of the BYOND hub and pick "Open Location"

>OH GOD MY GAME FROZE BUT I CAN STILL SEE CHAT HOW 2 FIX??
Downgrade your BYOND version to byond.com/download/build/510/510.1347_byond.exe

>Veeky Forumsstation forum and logs + Discord circlejerk
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>Map renders collection: updated sometimes
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>Cryo Autism
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>Round Stats
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>How To Install BYOND: The Video Tutorial: The Movie
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Robust

Reminder to gas the Tajarans

First for grippers are good

fug :D:D

Hold on, let me retrieve my MAGNIFYING GLASS

how bad r you're eye

Tell me something.
It happens often that Medbay is given a bluespace beaker, but the usefulness of a bluespace beaker for actual chemistry is severely crippled by the fact that the chemmaster buffer size is 100. And while you may get beakers often, you will NEVER EVER get a chemmaster upgrade unless you bust someone's balls over it.
So basically, bluespace beakers don't help you make medicine at all 95% of the time.
Is this fair? Should I suck it up? Since upgrading the chemmaster does more than one thing now, is it too much to ask for the buffer size to be increased by default?

>but the usefulness of a bluespace beaker for actual chemistry is severely crippled by the fact that the chemmaster buffer size is 100
click twice you lazelet

this is you

Just PDA message a mechanic or something, or use the requests console.

I have LITERALLY never seen a requests console used effectively.

Judging by the code you can make 200u pills with a fully upgraded chemmaster.
Holy shit why does nobody do this?

>cryo-in-a-pill pill (200u)
>200u of spiritbreaker

unban me niggers

done :)

No, only 100u pills upgraded

From an earlier round
>Latejoin CE
>AI gets "killed"
>Confirm it shunted with the console while people are celebrating
>It takes us like 120 seconds to get our shit together and follow the pinpointer after that
>30 seconds left when CMO announces it's in the secure armory
>Rush there from the APCs I was dismantling
>Time runs out as I arrive
>"The AI has taken over the station."
>Crowd of 10+ people in the core stand around awkwardly as I start hacking it
>Captain: "Well I guess the AI won."
>Bystander: "That sucks."
>Finish disassembling
>"The AI has been killed! The crew lost control of the station."

I've never gotten to see that message before, it seems it probably only appears when the AI wins and doesn't immediately nuke, and then gets killed in the remaining 30 seconds before a non-nuke victory.

science are a bunch of lazy good for nothing stuck-up cunts that will never give you anything
mechanics will infallibly show up roundstart begging for a chemdispenser scan then never be seen near medbay again

and then there's the fact that 200u pills just aren't very useful really

depends on the scientist man.

#notallmuslims

but really tho, i've seen some good lads on science
but for every cool fella on sci, there's 4 Marko Bomb's and Horatios

In the last 90 days, only 3 time-release pills have been made, and 2 out of those 3 were never used.
Gentlemen, how the fuck do we fix time-release pills?

Virologists about, internals out.

They're just there to be a little fun autism for experienced chemists to mess around with, like a RUST for engineers, they don't need fixing

Can't relabel them currently.

Yes you can.
github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/pull/16327

The experienced chemists spoke, they're useless
We get more than one RUST per month, and the RUST could ostensibly be useful

Good round

they are only useful for antags and very obvious when used.
They also require something uncommon to get, a coin being used in a medvend.

What would you even use those for?

Three or more pinpointers on the station assuming the ERT brought some with them, and we still didn't get told where it was until it was too late.

make them 100u

Post gifs

Piano Mime best mime.

I was the CMO that round, and to be honest, half the milf rounds I have to fight my own instincts to even do anything about it. Milf is such a shit gamemode, I just want it to end as quickly as possible.

They have NOREACT so they're mostly for stuff like flash pills or explosion pills

they're NOREACT but can't be used for polysmoke, that's about it

...

is this the wild ride mr bones set up? I showed him how to make a conveyor belt but had to leave before he could complete it. anyone have a gif of it?

That's just the holodeck.

>see virologist in viro suit in the hallways walking towards me
>I sperg out and immediately go "DON'T HUG ME. STAY AWAY"
>he seems hurt and replies with "That's a weird thing to say", then walks away
>feel bad about it
>five minutes later receive reports that there's a virus loose

>It's actually a wacky beneficial virus

Best virologist

That was a few days ago on the holodeck. Summoned Mr. Bones and ended up boning the server.

...

my little xeno can't possibly this cute

Never trust a virologist in a viro suit, they're usually the biggest newfags that just want to see the fruits of their brand new virus

Always trust your fellow virologist that isn't wearing a biosuit

Wish the round hadn't ended so soon after the virus got loose. Chickenman coming up to me with a set of advanced lungs that he produced to transplant made me want to never ask for this the whole station.

Why would you ever trust any virologist?

Not a gif, but here's something i took when Mr. Bones was here

github.com/vgstation-coders/vgstation13/issues/16443
You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.

oh no

oh YES

Now I can take my Mousetrap Box powergaming to the next level

>10 days ago
In the last 90 days
ther u go

>you will never exist in an alternate universe where Exxion is your little brother and you both code for spess in 10 hour long mind-meld extreme pair programming sessions a la Richard Stallman, then absent-mindedly get something to eat and watch a movie together
I hate this timeline.

Exxion is shitty though

Don't you dare talk ill of Exxion again or I will fight you

One of the most afk collaborators, the extent of his work is just redoing what cluster and pjb already did on bay zas. Nothing noteworthy about him.

You just abstracted a person to literally just "what they submitted in github". Which is not even a meritocracy to begin with.
How come people hate PJB if he coded more than Exxion, genius?

>hiding weapons in armory to prevent wiz harrassment
>detective walks in round start and tries to taze me
makes you think

What happened to all the medbay sluts? I want them back.

>Deliver resources at 8min into round
>WIZARDS!
>Round over in under 20 minutes
feels bad man

huh?

>invisible doppelgangers that immediately stun-lock you until you go into crit

truly the height of gameplay

>deliver resources 8min into the round
>BLOB!
>said immediately after science was already printing 50 AEGs this was back when AEGs existed

fuck off to bay if you don't like it instead of trying to shit on what's good here

Go to bed, Killette

dopplegangers aren't a good feature because of the aforementioned stunlocking. the invisibility(?) just makes that worse

Doppleganger is an overpowered spell.

If you think the delay between the doppelgangers' shots should be increased, make a Github issue requesting such.

get good you're probably not even trying to fight them
just reeeing away that the antag got away and slamming ahelp as soon as you can

wrong there have been spells for years that are far stronger

yeah the guy had an invisibility cloak

>get good you're probably not even trying to fight them
>just reeeing away that the antag got away and slamming ahelp as soon as you can
I was a latejoining Security Officer that round. The shuttle was coming in 5 minutes so I dragged beepers around as there were no lethals. I didn't encounter any dopplegangers that round but I've seen them before and I believe they're wonky from what I've seen and heard.

Each clone takes 3 adv. laser shots to kill and a wizman can easily fill every section of the station with a small 6-9 mob horde within 10 minutes. Unless you're dragging dual rechargers and half of the armory in your backpack, you can't cut through a horde.

Why the fuck are all the new spells so badly balanced
>hilariously broken norobes push with short cooldown and NO LIMITS ON WHAT IT CAN PUSH
>screen-wide instant hit with 2s cooldown
>d o p p
>dude snakes LMAO

vg would be amazingly bad if we listened to people like you and had no standards. doppleganger is one of the most retarded op things in the game. they are immune to basically everything, stunlock, take a decent amount of hits to down, cost nothing, have no timer and can teleport. they will literally (literally) win the game for you.

the meta will change
if you want to play the same game for the rest of your life go back to Goon if your not banned from there

>your

>waaah can't stun
>why do I have to fight fair waaaah
>when I'm already a team vs one antag and have the whole armoury, medical and sillicons

if we listened to people like you we'd have TG med and not bay lool

>lool
9/10 had me reply twice, only critique is you showed your hand too early

literally (literally) win for free
if u lose as dopple wiz ur bad lol

not an argument

mayb u shud type better than nobody woud hve to corect you dumass

>unless you have to put some thought into fighting an antag you can't fight an antag

shocking
why do you want easy wins just served to you without having to actually play the game? what do you even play for?
probably looking for ERP if so then >>>>bay

>berates ppl for wanting free wins without plying
>while defending ai controlled allies who win for you while you hide in a corner
>literally afk
>literally not playing
>literally
>(literally)

see

What's fair about sanic meatshields that are on super-low cooldown and, in numbers that are very easy to attain, do significant damage over time?

nobody even died

I knew from the start Fist was gonna be too strong but the meme tide was too strong

I CAST FIST XD

All four of those were made by the same person
This is not a coincidence

>waaaah i can only win with infinite ai controlled teleporting monsters
>waaaah i can only win literally afk
>waaah why dont people want to fight my infinite clones of me who win in one hit if you use anything except a gun, which most of the crew has no access to ;_;?

20 points: A single golem that follows you around and mimics some of your spell casts

20 points: upgraded infinite copies of you that attack on their own initiative and spam magic missile

Don't forget the best part
>it's on a
>TEN
>S E C O N D
>C
>O
>O
>L
>D
>O
>W
>N

Right, maybe we should brainstorm ways to fix it
possibilities:
>increase the cost to a full spell (a given really)
>hard cap on clones that increases with upgrades
>reduce clones health, mixed buff and nerf as its less obvious whether its a real wizard that's teleporting or a clone dying
>clones deal an amount of damage to the caster on death

I feel like dealing damage to the caster on death would be a wrong decision, you'd end up having to babysit the things to avoid getting suddenly nuked by some assistant who hid long enough to make a box full of buckshot.
Hard cap combined with a slight health nerf might work. Make the oldest clone "die" and fake teleport so as to give a false positive to an observer of "hey, that one that wasn't damaged fucked off! It was real! Quick, to Cargo!"
Maybe a slight speed nerf as well? These suckers run fast.

Exxion doesn't interact with anyone nearly enough to get points for his personality, so all we HAVE to judge him is based on his github profile. And that profile is rather mediocre, especially compared to most collaborators.

>"hey, that one that wasn't damaged fucked off! It was real! Quick, to Cargo!"
Did tele spell gain an invoke all of a sudden

Something on the lines of "S'yar Niar [department name]!"

I could have sworn I saw dying doppels invoke teleportation. They'd yell out shit with a wiz'd up department name and go up in smoke.

I interact with people on GitHub, and before a few months ago I was much more active on the server
But I got kind of burned out again, and also am just really busy this semester

I was going to stay out of this but since I'm here:
I'm a lazy piece of shit, so yeah, I don't have many contributions. I'm only a collab because what few contributions I do have (excluding my first several months of work of course) is high quality