Signs of Weakness and Decadence in Nietzschean Philosophy

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Why not just say "signs of degeneracy," it has about as much substance.

Jesus he sounds like the archetypical fedora

>>Sympathy for animals
Not at all. Pic related

>>Lack of respect for elders and tradition
Fucking lol. Nietzsche had no respect for elders or tradition.

>>Soft hipster style Christianity
Or indeed any Christianity. Or religion in general for that matter.

>>Kumbaya "we're all the same" globalism
Or nationalism in any way shape or form.

Also you seem to have this perception that to be Nietzschean is to be absolutely heartless. Which is the exact opposite of the truth.

>Drinking alcohol
>most of human society (including all the relevant bits) have been decaying for at least 10k years
Ok buddy. Whatever you say.

>Christianity is for fucking betas!!!!

>btw the crusades were horrible and barbaric

>Drinking alcohol
People drink less and less alcohol though.

>Science worship
Is a weakness?

>Kumbaya "we're all the same" globalism
What did he meant by this?

Exactely on how many layers of irony are you on?

What is Nietzscheanism anyway? There's so much misinformation in the guy that it's hard to tell.

>Cruel men as backward. We must think of men who are cruel today as stages of
earlier cultures, which have been left over; in their case, the mountain range of
humanity shows openly its deeper formations, which otherwise lie hidden. They are
backward men whose brains, because of various possible accidents of heredity, have
not yet developed much delicacy or versatility.

Your Nietzsche is not Nietzsche, OP.

Christianity isn't necessarily for betas.

It's just for the herd.

Basically Nietzsche saw that "god is dead" which basically means that religion had lost the importance it once held as giving meaning to life, subsequently placing the world in a nihilistic void.

He spent an unholy amount of time analysing and criticising Christianity covering a multitude of topics, chief most of which is that Christian morality is counter-intuitive to the natural state of man. Because of this he felt it was necessary that in the void of nihilism there was the opportunity for society to develop into something better than its previous Christian incarnation, that is the Ubermensch.

Intrinsic to the concept of the Ubermensch is the will to power. First off the will to power is not a kind of social-Darwinist drive to conquer and dominate. This is probably the single biggest mistake anyone makes in their reading of Nietzsche. The will to power is an extremely esoteric metaphysical concept that to be perfectly honest I have yet to fully comprehend. But from what I understand it's more like a creative will to overcome oneself and thus hold power over life.

Also important to understanding the Ubermensch is understanding the eternal return. The eternal return is almost like a parable that posits if you were forced to live your entire life over again, and feel all that you once felt pain and all, but you thought this would be a horrible fate then you didn't live a good life. Not in the sense that you felt a lot of pain and you don't want to feel it again, no. Rather in the sense that you should want to feel the pain because your appreciation for life is so deep that you can look the misery in the eye and embrace it.

The Ubermensch is almost like a messianic figure. The Ubermensch is someone who has fully realized both these concepts and so will heroically embark on a quest for greatness until his dying day. This person symbolizes a new age in man's history just as when present humans first emerged there were few of them, but many apes.

OP's desperate machismo exposed

>The Ubermensch
If I could complicate this a little bit (I've been a Nietzsche nerd since I was like 15 years old)

The Ubermensch is the one who is capable of self-overcoming. What this means in the context of the death of God is that he is capable of creating a new set of values, values that are life-affirming rather than life-denying, as Christianity would have it (with the notion of spirit, of the ultimate value of this world lying in a spirit realm).

The will to power is fundamentally this precise ability to overcome oneself, to overcome the poisonous influences of nihilism, which Nietzsche viewed with horror.

But all in all, this is a decent nutshell of Nietzsche. I recommend everyone read Thus Spoke Zarathustra and The Genealogy of Morals for a fuller picture, because it's pretty interesting stuff.

Good list.

I would add charitable giving and shit like "breast cancer awareness"

>Where does Nietzsche talk about science worship?

The Gay Science, i think

He also talks about it a bit in Beyond Good and Evil if I remember correctly.

>What is Nietzscheanism anyway?

Transcending moral presuppositions formed by your social surroundings and establishing a new self dichotomy. It's is alot harder than it sounds.

It's not quite as simple as that. Nietzsche posits a lot of his own values that distinguishes him from Stirner, who just wanted to level the field of pre-existing values and fill it with ones own creativity. Nietzsche has a very specific ideas for what constitutes a perfect human.

Exactly. And their listed by the OP itt.

>Exactly. And their listed by the OP itt.

Expect an Ubermench can have sympathy for animals.

user's point was that what OP thought he was listing were weaknesses according to Nietzsche and user is facetiously saying that they're actually Nietzschean strengths to poke fun at the fact that OP is horribly wrong.

>Sympathy for animals
>Vegetarianism/veganism
>Sympathy for poor people/socialism
>Sympathy for fat people and weak people
>Lack of respect for elders and tradition
None of these are inherently bad from a Nietzschean perspective (though they can be potentially). And as a matter of fact a few of them are encouraged more than anything.

But worst of all are these.
>Soft hipster style Christianity
I shouldn't have to state the obvious.
>Kumbaya "we're all the same" globalism
I think it's most likely that OP here is implicitly favouring nationalism.

>implicitly favouring nationalism

And? Go back to the fucking New York Times and cry with them over Hillary losing and Brexit. Your time is over, scum.

>Being a nationalist chimp
You don't belong in a Nietzsche thread.

Maybe the bible for dummies is more your speed.

Seriously, fucking this.

Nietzsche trolled nationalists in his own country. Even ended a long friendship over one

>Drinking alcohol

Has always been widespread

>Vegetarianism/veganism

Has never been widespread

>Science worship

????????

Idk there are some parallels between Calvinism and some of Nietzsche's ideas like the ubermench and amor fati. During his Zarathustra period, Nietzsche was reading a lot of Carlyle and Emerson, whose philosophies were heavily influenced by the Calvinism of their youth.

I mean science worship should be terrible..If you worship science or "believe" in it rather than support or agree you are treating it like religion? Please don't tell me you're one of those atheist "I fucking love science!" types.