Historically speaking, what happens next?

>2.5m in 8 years gone
>1.2m yearly arrivals
Clearly much more effort is required. However unlike the democrat Obama and his race armor, Trump will have to raise the effort levels in a storm of public outrage.

Going against a populist is suicide in politics, just ask Hillary

Going against a populist when you're a murdering, lying criminal is suicide in politics.

Oh please, like populism has any relevance without upcoming elections.
Yeah I'm totally seeing recall votes starting up as soon as some dumbass senator tries opposing his popular majesty king Donald.
Come on. It will be a shitfest until either Trump get an agreement with the republicans or until 6 months before the next major elections.

Was anybody surprised by this? Everything he said that didn't get turned into a meme clearly showed that he was far more centered than he acted.

>Was anybody surprised by this?
Anyone relying on mainstream media for their information.

I'll bet you that wall is coming up

Out of those, I'm not seeing Trump do the following:
>build a wall (beyond pic related levels)
>deport illegals (at levels great enough to actually lower the immigrant population)
>renegotiate trade deals
Also I doubt he's gonna bother with the common core, but if he does, he'd have no problems doing away with it.

Assuming the mainstream republicans rally around him instead of impeaching ASAP, things will move fast. He'll weaken the courts as much as possible as fast as possible because they are the only check on his power. Probably he'll do this by declaring BLM a terrorist organization requiring emergency powers after the next shooting. If the courts roll over and take it, he'll organize his younger followers into paramilitaries sooner than you expect. Otherwise he'll wait and tighten his control over the military until California secession (it's happening) hands him a landslide reelection, then dismantle the courts and build camps. The /pol/ attitude is absolutely typical of genocidal groups and I feel pretty confident forecasting at least scattered unofficial ethnic cleansing, probably blooming into an industrial scale affair by the end of the second term.

Also somewhere in there someone will provoke him into a losing war, or two or three. It will be easy, the first one will start in the first half of the first year but in the long run he'll start as many as he needs to cover up the economy's collapse. The further in over his head he gets, the more power he'll route to himself until he's buried in way more decisions than he can handle. He'll start trying to solve complex problems with simple measures, make ever bigger blunders, and melt down completely toward the end with a nontrivial chance of nuclear suicide. We'll be lucky if it costs less than 200 million lives and doesn't end with India, Brazil, China, Germany and/or California occupying the eastern US or in nuclear war. Screencap this.

Massive collateral damage as he tries to implement things like 40% tariffs,repeal the ACA or give in to coal industry rent seekers.

fpbp

Though he has already back tracked on some things I don't see how he could back track on trade/immigration since he built much of his platform on it. However I also don't seen how raising tariffs could benefit much of his base (significantly higher tariffs would mean higher prices for common goods and without any wage increases quality of life will drop), how he could alter current trade deals to provide huge benefits to them in a short time period, or how deporting more immigrants will vastly improve their economic condition.

>I don't see how he could back track on trade/immigration since he built much of his platform on it.
He doesn't need to backtrack. He just need to fail by having the republicans vote against him (which they likely will) so he can just shift the blame on them.
Also none of the economic policies he supports will have short term benefits, that's a given. They all require significant adjustments, were he even to start right now, the effects might not be perceived until well into his second term.

lmao

Now that's what I call a pigheaded view and a exaggeration.

.2m yearly arrivals
what, illegals?

source

...

All Trump has to do is this.

"Any and every Illegal Immigrant has the next 3 months to register at *insert government office*.
If they live a peaceful life, pay taxes, and commit no crime, they will be given citizenship after 5 years.

Anyone who is illegal is caught breaking the law will be deported outside the US border immediately after trial."

Then he just has to reinforce the borders, and have a better form of tracking down workers on visa's.

>5 years
too little, better see how long they've been around and come up with a figure that's not static

probably around 10

otherwise, your proposal is the best way to go

Screencap it, chillwave. Barring impeachment or assassination, Donald looks absolutely textbook and we should expect textbook consequences.

The candidate who ran on a platform of not giving amnesty is to give conditional amnesty?

>530k visa overstays
dhs.gov/sites/default/files/publications/FY 15 DHS Entry and Exit Overstay Report.pdf
>330k caught border crossers with expected 33% apprehension rate, so 660k successful crossers
dhs.gov/news/2015/12/22/dhs-releases-end-fiscal-year-2015-statistics

Total: 1.19m new illegals.

1.19*8 in - 2.5 deported = 7.02 million people in

why hasn't the illegal population increased?

I just said 5 years as an example

When you want to make any sort of deal, you always go way above what you actually want, that way when you negotiate, it's brought down right to where you wanted it.
On top of that, it's probably the most moderate way to go about all of this.

The good citizens who want to be here will get their chance, and all the scumbags that came here for other reasons will be deported.

Amnesty, regularization, people actually going back (yes, without being forced, it happens more than you'd think).

>1.19*8
No buddy, that's just 2015. There was a heavy lull 2005-2009, so you can't count it that way.

Its not impossible. Butthurt liberals say it is as wishful thinking

go look up Operation Wetback (yes, its really called that)

>Operation Wetback
>1954
You do realize people say it's politically rather than logistically or legally impossible right?

>it's politically rather than logistically or legally impossible right?

see
>He's never ever gonna get the political capital to actually make a serious deportation effort. The resources required alone would tear a hole in the federal budget

Its not legally or culturally impossible based on the fact that the guy whos harshest about it now president and the republicans control congress and the white house AND get to pic the new judge for the supreme court (and probably another after Ruth croaks in a few more months)

you have to go back

>Was anybody surprised by this
yes, /pol/

>making shit up and repeating baseless rumors

can you shills just stop? you lost, get over it

>can you shills just stop?
Trump already backtracked on Obamacare wsj.com/articles/donald-trump-willing-to-keep-parts-of-health-law-1478895339

>to read the full story log in or subscribe

sensationalist headlines! oh my! His entire schtick was that Obamacare sucked, so I dont see a problem with him cutting the fat off of it or fixing it because of the complete failure that it was.

And how is this him "backtracking on everything" exactly? Oh yeah, it isnt. You are literally being a shill and throwing a shit fit because you lost

Hopefully genocide. That way, black people and libcucks may actually be able to get jobs.

>stabalization when democratic pres is handing out free citizenship
Now we're stuck with the scumbag third worlders. We should've shot anybody trying to cross the border and invited a few hundred thousand third worlders into our a country a year.

>denial

I'll tell you to stop and look around but you won't

>sensationalist headlines!
Not an argument.

>His entire schtick was that Obamacare sucked
Yeah which is why he ran a campaign on completely repealing it which he just backtracked on days later after the election. This isn't surprising since almost ever single president has done this.

>And how is this him "backtracking on everything"
Its not. I'm not

>Not an argument.

yes it is. I cant read the article unless Im subscribed apparently, so all I have to go on is the headline, which is obviously going to be eye catching and sensationalist to draw in readers

>Yeah which is why he ran a campaign on completely repealing it which he just backtracked on days later after the election

Once again, its one meme article and one from an obviously biased publication. It means or proves nothing. Stop being a butthurt because your side lost, especially when you arrogantly believed you would easily win and bitched about the other side not graciously accepting the results.

all that is just shit stirred up by Soros anyway.

Literally not an argument

>Once again, its one meme article
Had you bothered to search you could have found multiple articles of the same type such as csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2016/1112/Why-Trump-is-keeping-parts-of-Obamacare or nytimes.com/2016/11/12/business/insurers-unprepared-for-obamacare-repeal.html

>Stop being a butthurt because your side lost
Are you so delusional that you believe anybody who points these things out must be a shill?

>csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2016/1112/Why-Trump-is-keeping-parts-of-Obamacare

>In his first interview since the election, President-elect Trump indicated that he might compromise on the Affordable Care Act. Though he maintained that “you can’t use it” in its current state, Mr. Trump said he would consider keeping the part of the law that allows children to stay on their parents’ plans until the age of 26, as well as the provision that prevents insurers from denying coverage to individuals with pre-existing conditions.

>“I like these very much,” he said

wtf I hate Trump now!

Seriously, this is nothing and you are acting like Trump is stabbing his supporters in the back. His entire thing is that Obamacare sucked and needed to be replaced, so I dont see how him keeping parts of it that he liked is some how him going back on his words

And yes, there obviously is an orchestrated effort to kill off all of Trumps support simply because they other side is really butthurt that they lost fair and square. The guy isnt even in fucking office yet and you guys are acting like he just called in Order 66

youtube.com/watch?v=14zszKEKz-I

So, we'll just let them keep contributing to low-grade labor gluts and thus the unskilled wage profiles will keep being suppressed?

>I don't see how [him not doing what he said] is [him saying things he's not doing]

I'm hearing the strangest noise right now, it's like a cupping or a clucking sound, anyone else hear that?

Not an argument. But keep on fellating a loser like Clinton though

>so I dont see how him keeping parts of it that he liked is some how him going back on his words
If he had not said he wished to repeal the whole thing you would be right.

>there obviously is an orchestrated effort to kill off all of Trumps support
Which is irrelevant now. He is now president and the Republicans have the house and senate. His biggest obstacle now will be other Republicans politico.com/story/2016/11/conservatives-vs-trumps-infrastructure-plan-231221

Isolating the contradiction in your claims is literally an argument, no matter how mean it is.

Amnesty has never and will never work for immigration.

>bitching about semantics

>moving the goalpost/changing the topic

ok

I explained why it wasnt him going back on his words and you just ignored it and were just being obtuse on purpose

Hillary lost, deal with it loser

>I explained why it wasnt him going back on his words
You didn't explain anything. You dismissed it all as semantics and proceeded to cover for him.

>You dismissed it all as semantics and proceeded to cover for him.

Because that is exactly what it is.

Hillary lost user. Just deal with the fact that she got crushed

>Yeah which is why he ran a campaign on completely repealing
Do you know his stance on issues? He's for some sort of healthcare plan, he just thinks Obamacare sucks dick, if he replaces the bad things and keeps the good it's no longer obamacare

Jews in Germany were legal citizens. Trump doesn't want to deport Mexicans as a race, just ones that are here illegally.

This.

The fact that this proposal of his is inciting controversy shows how much leftists have shifted the overton window

>Because that is exactly what it is.
And this type of thinking is what allows politicians to manipulate the public so easily, their words fluid or concrete whenever it is convenient for them.

US manufacturing is near record highs, and has been for some time. It just does not employ actual human beings in America. China only has flesh and blood workers because they are paid so little they are cheaper than robots. Even then wages have been increasing so several companies are shifting to places like sub-saharan Africa and Indochina--Chinese serfs are no longer able to out-compete robots because they are daring to have a higher standard of living.

When the trade war happens the companies that choose to remain in America will not--I want to stress this--will not hire blue collar workers unless said workers are willing to live on Laotian-tier wages. But wait, remember Moore's Law. Those robots will become exponentially cheaper and more effective over time. Soon blue collar workers will have to accept Nigerian wages, then Somali wages, then no wage.

Trade did not make the rust belt. Computers did. Only banning computers would help those of us in the rust belt.

>just deal

Nothing to deal with, Hillary wasn't that great and California was going to find a reason to secede anyways. Now on the other hand, if I'd just installed an obvious narcissist in the most powerful office on Earth, despite everyone warning me, and it was dawning on me that I'd been fucked like and thrown away like tissue, I'd have something to deal with, but fortunately my hands are clean on that one.

>California was going to find a reason to secede anyways.
>doubt.png

There's Hillary not being that great and being outplayed by a sexist guy that has had zero experience in politics and has been attacked by the media 24/7

To tell you guys the truth, I really hope something bad happens to us. We need to be broken down and built up again.

>There's Hillary not being that great
Hillary had so many skeletons in her closet she could run a haunted house and many of her supports only felt luke warm about her. She was never able to create the raw enthusiasm that Trump could.

Keep in mind that more people voted for Romney.

As a Democrat, I'm petrified that retard SJWs will ruin 2018 and 2020 by crying racism and sexism instead of making coherent arguments that working class whites care about.

>Trump already backtracked on Obamacare

He didn't backtrack. He already said long ago in an interview that he'd only keep part of Obamacare.

At the border.

Gestapo deportation would be difficult and expensive.

>ruin 2020
>when democrats will be down 55 electors, will have lost their youth and left wing to Green or Social Dems, and will be running against a law and order candidate running for reelection during an actual secession movement

Little late for that buddy

Campaign Trump (like others) switched his opinion on multiple subjects like H1B visas multiple types so I think it would be better to go with his "final form".

Anyone who says that they have any idea what America is going to be like in 4 years is simply a liar.

California isnt going to actually secede, they can't without declaring war against the united states. Also the group pushing for it says they will use the constitution as a means when the constitution does not have a means for them seceding.
They are just dumb people spouting off shit they don't know anything about to get attention.

They could use the constitution to have a constitutional convention and pass an amendment that recognizes the independence of California.

I think the GOP might be happy to see them go.

Which would require the agreement of the house and senate then to be ratified by the judges, after all this is done each state would need to ratify it, this in total would take around ten years at a minimum most likely, but with what it is over would probably be closer to at least 40 if not over a hundred.
Amending the constitution is a pain in the ass.

I really wish people had not pushed the "Trump is fascist!" meme. In many ways he is a bland New York liberal and I feel certain positions like abortion he only took up because is something republicans do. Trump has to be a lot more extreme to even consider comparing him to Hitler.

>Britain isn't actually
>America isn't actually
>California isn't actually

I personally got tired of being wrong last week but w/e works for you dude.

>the constitution

Reserves rights not given to the government to the states, and does not give the government the right to secede. I'm not saying it's a good thing but the meme's out of the bottle, it's made a lot of friends and money in the last week, and now it will snowball.

And now that libs are acting like it's the end of the world are making their position harder

Not that guy but Trump and Brexit had plenty of support. Does California seceding have that much support? Why not Texas as there are groups trying to get Texas to leave the union?

You don't remember the Obama is Hitler and Clinton is Hitler shit? Did you just turn 18 for this election cycle?

>Not that guy but Trump and Brexit had plenty of support. Does California seceding have that much support?
>I personally got tired of being wrong last week but w/e works for you dude.
The point is that in order for California to secede it would require a lot of time or a deceleration of war against the United States they would not win that war.