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Everyone who studied international relations with me falls into one of two categories today: they either went onward into influential positions in some form of politics, behind the scenes or overt, or they had rich parents and work for charity to alleviate their white upper-middle class guilt.

Look: It doesn't really matter what you're studying, the only relevant thing is the rank of your university
Think: Top10 or tra$h

yes, that's mid level COL region

this is likely east/west coast, high COL region

I'm a Political Science major hoping to go to law school. But have considered cucking out and just studying accounting.

How fucked am I if I stick with Political Science?

I got my degree in mathematics. Became an actuary, still making my starting salary of 75k.

Chemical engineer here, still trying to find a full time job because australias job market is oversaturated as fuck

I take the mcat this August. I imagined you just did some sort of residency program in psychiatric medicine

Don't get me wrong the pay is like 4k a month for people who just graduated, but the work is pure cancer.

Wrong. Midwest, low COL area. Not Chicago-area or Minneapolis.

there's something you aren't telling us then, it takes more than negotiating skills to get a starting salary like that. don't try to pass it off as normal.

how brod is physics

I wanna study agricultrual economics, do you think its a good choice `?

And how hard is it to establish my own Agricultural biz, sb with exp here ?

I'm studying accounting... graduating in a semester (Dec 2017)
My classes are full of beta males, but I aint one. I'm a fucking champ. My gpa is shit (2.3) but I've been able to secure a financial analyst position at a research company (will be forecasting projects and working on RFP/Q's). I was able to get it purely through networking.

Seriously though, even the big 4 people I've had lunch with are a bunch of pricks. Think they're incredible. I remember some of my graduate assistants that were getting their MAC and had offers from EY or Deloitte and were starting 70k after graduating... two years later they're working as a desk accountant for a local company. Most the people in my class haven't worked a day in their lives and can't talk to normal people. I always felt like most of the accounting students around me are nerds who are too dumb to be engineers.

My rants over

If you enjoy ag people then fucking do it. I know a couple guys who ended up working for either gov't with subsidizing crops and shit or farmer's mortgage companies. It seems like once you build a book of business it wouldn't be too hard but probably looking at 5-10yr of working for someone else first.

Honestly though, seems like you can help some of the farmers. I know in my state there's a lot of poor farmers so able to do some good work.

That's such shit man, such shit. You can be successful without a top 10 school. You are just looking for an excuse for your own shitty life and it must be "oh because I didn't go to a top 10 school!" no its because you make excuses like a bitch.

>Going to school

I didnt go to college and I made 600k last year. Think of a business or do it, or do what I did and look at a niche where someone is making bank with a sub par product, make a better one. Marketing it is the most important.

The only thing you should go to school for is certifications and liscencing IE: lawyer, doctor, cpa , realtor. Things you have to have degrees for in order to operate legally.

sure, bub - you're the big exception and you're gonna make it big time :^)

No. You don't understand the state of the software industry. If you get a comp. sci. degree from anywhere that isn't a dump with decent grades, you can command that type of salary. I went to a state school ffs. The issue is literally that interviewees are shit negotiaters.

I'm thinking I might one day go back to college just for fun with all my money and study something like art just for kicks while I already have a nice comfy job, plenty of savings and investments, and just want to pick up a new hobby or something.

No faggot, what's success? I doubt anyone on here will ever be a millionaire... hell probably not going to make over $200k

$100k a year is pretty successful though and there's plenty of people doing it without a top 10 degree. Some faggot who saves dumbass troll pics won't though because he's a fucking wimp. You have really pissed me off with how much of a bitch you are.

I go to a non top 10 school and call alumni asking for money. I call CEO's, VP's of banks (literally called a VP of Goldman Sach's last night, dude got his PhD and Masters here, undergrad in China)

How can you say they're not successful?

thx man, i am in my finals at this time and I was actually pretty sure to work in this subject, but i got a bit scared of gaining knowledge in a subject its hard to open a biz.

Some Ideas what i could get into ? and what are you doing for a living ?

I'm a student but work in my university's call center (asking alumni for money). We are a big ag school and put out ag economists too so I've spoken to a few who are doing just fine. They have a passion for the work and the people they work with normally. If your school has an ag econ program I'd suggest talking to the head of it to see. I know the people I've spoken with mainly started out working for the gov't dept of agriculture or for like a farmer's credit union.

Oh and Its my absolute dream to live in the USA. hows the chance for a greencard if i end with a bachelor in Agrieconmics

Where are you from?

wich country you are actually from ?

GermanyBavaria

Absolute load of shit for 99% of careers and even then becomes even more irrelevant the longer you work. The main benefit for those schools is the quality of networking.

So I'm from the US. The south to be more specific.
I don't know much about greencards but I think best course would be to get into a Master's program here in ag econ and then go to career fairs and talk to people to get a job and visa.

I'd do some googling research

My fucking man!

What can you do with an Econ PhD?

Oh man thank you,here in Germany the Agribiz seems to have hard times and it could be in the next election there will be a gov with the red-red-green coalition, and expecially the greenparty will high regulate the Agribiz, so i am scared of this change.

Would love to live in the southern states :) but also like the rocky mountain states like idaho and utah. Wich state you are from ?

Civ engineering here.
Most eng degrees have some sort of finance intergrated in them nowadays which'll hopefully come in handy later. Engineering usually starts off w an alright salary (especially civ) but caps pretty low, 90k+ where I live if your very very lucky but taxes will take 52% of that :^)

Kinda wish I did mechanical instead but depending on where you live the demand and salaries do not differ much from each other, main difference being mecheng being harder than civ.

Hopefully I can invest the salary made in stocks on the side and make some extra income but hey, easier said than done...

North Carolina... it is hot and black. A lot of the whites around here though would enjoy a german though, most of us are part my uhh granpa's parents were from Bavaria

:P i am actually Thai-German

We only have turks here, some are nice but their is also kind of parrallel society.
Hows it with the blacks ?

They're either bro teir or bad. I have always had black friends but some are too caught up into the being black scene. A lot are thugs and bad people but there's bad whites too. I enjoy them more than whites though as far as when I'm at work or in a group project. The ones in college seem to understand hard work and aren't pussies about shit.

Finee arts bachelor here, made 72k as junior art director my first year. OP is a flamboyant closet homosexual as usual. KYS
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Is the land or housing cheap in Northcarloina, and how high is the SJW density ?

SJW contained to cities. Housing and land is cheap compared to rest of US

Man Ohh god you cant imagine how much I love the american way of live dude, and believe me to be a fan of america in Germany as a guy in my age is really hard, Feels like 90% of my friends are left leaningn and even some of my friends are antifags and believe unironaccly in Communism and some even in Socialism

Yeah there's some of them here. Luckily we have enough of normal people that these guys don't gain much traction. I had a Facebook "friend" from high school post about CIS Gender White Males and itjust annoying. I gotta be out though man, wish the best getting to USA and degree good talking.

U too man

IR where I'm from gets you 40k tax free if you are hired by the UN as starting salary;
end salary is right around 100.000 tax free.

Civil engineer here as well. I think for us to make more money we need to get into project management. We can also use any drafting skills we have to make blueprints for small contractors or DIYers

Got a degree in English in 2010. Haven't used it but one time to grade standardized tests for Pearson. Had soul sucked out doing this monotonous, evil job.

Mostly did a bunch of home care giving for sick family, worked lots of delivery jobs.

In retrospect I don't regret getting a degree, just the field I chose.

Unless you want to be a teacher, don't fucking major in English. Choose something that will enable you to pay back your student loans.

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But hey, gotta make the best of it.

>fine arts student
>calling ANYBODY a homosexual
Okey

you literally don't understand anything you retard. you can an MBA at some state uni or college, as long as its not a community college. as long as you know what to do with your situation, you're fine.

Stay mad, testoslet.

Depends entirely on specialization.

Some will start making more than that.

Physics and Math (pure and applied) for my undergrad and now I'm doing a PhD in Nuclear Physics.

My career path atm is academia, or finance, or somekind of nuclear industry

I make 32k at the moment. I can make 40/hr if I lab demonstrate which I'm planning on getting into.

Double majoring in entrepreneurship/ corporate innovation and finance then going to a better school for an MBA. How am I doing so far

>tfw want to be a teacher

Poverty tier, here I come!

very

thanks for the blog post

teach, or work in research.

>get bachelors in engineering
>get put in superb tier
>get phd in engineering
>drop a tier
Nice chart.

what do you, hypocrite?

History and Secondary Ed. Pls save me to be your scribe after the nuclear holocaust, I'll work for cheap memecoins my entrepreneurial overlords. I promise to behave!

pretty meme tier
No offense, but sounds like you're a daddy's boy that was ambitious but too stupid.

if you're gonna waste your money on a PhD then go for something high-brow, not more engineering you dip shit.

PhDs don't cost money. There's opportunity cost, but nothing out of pocket.

High brow, like what? Should I jump on the machine learning meme train with the rest of the monkeys all the way to the next dotcom bubble? You do a PhD based on what your interests are, end of story. You wouldn't be able to finish if you did what you did because it seems "high brow". Dumb undergrads.

where's the bs in crypto?

>PHD in finance

Why?

Get your fucking CFA certificate, it's way more important. Why do you only have degrees there, you realize accountants can also get a CPA and that's essentially the equivalent of a masters and has an average salary of like 150k a year.

This chart must be old. "Great tier" is 50k? Are there any college jobs that pay less than 70 starting? It seems like all recent grads I know get 80 with 10 sign on, like everyone and their mom got 70/10 when I graduated. I mean shit whats minimum wage now? Is it even possible to make 50k working full time? I don't want to waste my time doing the math. The economy is booming everyone is heading into to 6 fig club. Its meaningless now. "Superb" is near 6 fig? That's no where near "upper-middle" class. "Middle-class" should own a home. The average starting home is like 500k these days, if have a BA or better, some years exp. and making less that 6 figures you fucked something up. I don't even know how you could like making less that 50k whats the poverty line these days?

I'm a sophomore in aero eng here. Joined as a freshman thinking it'd be cool to work for NASA spacecraft but slowly realizing I'll probably end up riding a desk at a defense contractor. Still excited for the future though, trying to put my focus on jet engine design specifically now and see where that can take me

Hows a bachelor's in Philosophy and Econ, then a Master's in Law?

>econ PhD
>150k+
huehuehue.

no.

t. econ phd

Should I get a bachelors in Finance and go on to get an MBA, or bachelors in accounting and get my CPA?

Is it possible to obtain both in a reasonable time-span + not break the bank?

Geology is in pretty high demand and the few that I know make a pretty healthy salary. Not to mention they're all raging alcoholics that love to party.

What do you want to do?

Do you want to work in investments? Do you want to eventually be a CFO, controller, accountant etc? How about public or private? What interests you more? Keep in mind most stuff someone in finance learns an accountant learns as well but lots of stuff an accountant learns a finance degree will never teach you. Accounting has to cover literally all aspects of a business and business operations but finance is great if you're interested in focusing on money and investments and how both those things grow and change.

It's a hard choice because I really like aspects of both. Investment banker, Finance analyst, and finance consultant top my list.

You don't like tax law?

I forgot to add, I would enjoy taking a position where, with experience, I could work up to CFO/controller

You can do all those with both degrees but if you want to get far in investment banking or financial analysis you'll probably want to get your CFA which is a massive undertaking

If you want to be a CFO/controller and you want more flexibility then do accounting, just try to avoid public practice like the plague unless you hate free time and work life balance

Thanks for the info.

Can you explain the downfall of public over private? Sheer size?

Public is just a lot more fucking work but also less meaningful work at the same time, prepare yourself for overtime every night and weekend during the busy season filling out the same fucking tax schedules for years fighting to try and eventually become a partner with tons of other soulless husks. Industry accounting is a lot more relaxed, you do your work and go home, during period ends it gets a little busy but for the most part your work isn't going anywhere and you aren't competing for a partner position with 40 other juniors

IN DA SOUTH THAT BIG $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

I'm assuming you're an accountant in the industry?
If so, how's the pay/do you enjoy it?

Change now user. I studied history intending to do the same thing. I now work as a waiter
>please kill me

I'm finishing my degree and starting my CPA, i've worked since my first year of school in AR and AP positions and have moved up to a junior accountant position that i've had over the past 1.5 years. The pay is good, i've moved up a couple dollars an hour every year, as a freshman I mad 15 an hour in an entry level co-op position and got a promotion to 17 an hour and then I got my new job as a junior accountant for 22 an hour while still finishing my degree. It's not bad work, it can boring sometimes, especially if you're in a big company and you're just 1 of 100 accountants doing the same work every day. The real fun work comes once you start working for smaller companies. I do admit though it's not for everyone, you have to be a pretty analytical person to enjoy it, most of my day involves data analysis and the rest of it is data entry.

>Bachelor in Comp Sci/IT and a bachelor in Business Admin
>Making about 45k starting -> 50k next year

Chart is pretty accurate.

Alright, thanks for all the guidance, I appreciate it deeply. Have a nice evening.

Try getting one of the Marxist nutjobs that offer the PhDs to offer you one.
You do PhD on whatever your area of research is on, not your interests.
Study Finance, economics, or Computer Science.
Academic jack offs have little o-no practical value.

>PhD in Finance or Accounting

why the hell would you do that? why not just get the CFA/CPA and move on from school?

These charts are made by children

>MPH
>being worth anything
ahahahaha

Nursing should be lower btw

Finance can be done in 3 years if you're not inept. MBA can be accelerated and done in 1.5 years. CPA takes years and many tests to be taken and passed.

Accounting is office bitch, Finance is investing.
Do whatever you want.

I agree, probably done by a freshman or some smug faggot in high school trying to showcase his perceived superiority.

In my second last semester, getting Bachelors Major in Accounting / Entrepreneurship.

3.45 GPA from top 3 Canadian school (UofT, UBC, McGill etc)

Worked in Northern Alberta O&G for 3 co-op terms. Made 50-65k CAD salary annualized. Canadian accountants get rekt, especially at big 4. We get offered like 45k CAD salary. Fuck that.

Economy is down the shitter because of our local socialist government, so i have no full time employment lined up.

Likely going to go to trade school and work on the rigs making 40CAD/hr as an apprentice and hopefully get to a field supervisor and eventually department leader level.

CPA only takes 1.5 years if you dont do full time though. It's an 8 month program if you do the accelerated in class version.

Because you're a boring middle-class square. Should have held off on the BA and opted for an MBA. Never too late!

Got a PhD in women's studies, currently making 500k starting.