If you really think your lies through and practice them well along with dressing the part, could you potentially lie your way into a $15/hr+ job?
Because I am honestly considering it right now. I'm pretty much a loser who's only worked shit-tier minimum wage jobs, and I have some money saved I can buy decent clothes with and everything. So I'm thinking about just cheating my way in, and working from there on.
Seems like you'd need is to get your foot in the door, and from that point you just snowball knowledge and experience and once you've gained 6-12 months experience at one company, you just quit and go to another. (No one will question your ORIGINAL experience then, only your most recent, that you actually DID do)...
Is this feasible? I honestly can't see the downsides if I weigh out pros and cons.
Right now I'm thinking of Pros and Cons. I can't think of a single Con. to this plan.
Best case scenario - It works out flawlessly, no one ever finds out you lied. You've done it.
Worst case scenario(s) -
a) your employer finds out mid-employment. Result: You get immediately terminated, back to Square 1. Still got paid though. No net loss.
b) your employer calls you out on your bullshit or requests very specific references. Result: You consider it a fail interview, bail and try again somewhere else.
It's not illegal, so what the fuck is the problem? Is there one?
Caleb Miller
I lied my way into a 25/hr, and 19/hr job, and that's all with a record.
Bout to do it again too :^)
Andrew Hughes
What kind of jobs were they?
Do they honestly fucking check shit man? I feel like you could lie about having a degree.
Jaxson Wright
Civil engineering shit.
They weren't outright lies, they were half truths mostly. I wish I could get my shit together and stop getting fired.
Cameron Harris
I feel you man.
I'm about to just start spending a few hours a day rehearsing and sending out my fake resume. Can this work? I feel as though once you get the initial experience you now no longer have to lie, and a entry level position should not be that difficult to find.
Brody Lewis
Not really.
I'm not really sure how it works for large corporations. Maybe they have a blacklist they might put you on?
Either way. Start at a small-medium sized company and make sure to tell half truths.
After you bullshit on your resume, go through everything on there. Make up a story for it and write it down for quick reference. After reviewing your resume for potential flaws you can get called out on, you're set.
I'm sure you'll get at least more interviews.
Sebastian Bennett
What are you going to lie about? Saying you went to college when you didn't might cause you some trouble
also, easier than lying about knowledge, lie about how friendly and charismatic you are, get into one of those easy to do jobs at fancy places like hotel front desk or whatever, just gotta Look Nice As Fuck Bro
Carson Baker
I only have minimum wage experience. So basically not really applicable in any way to decent jobs.
Honestly how tough could it be to just weasel my way in? I highly doubt smaller companies check references, and if they do ill just find one that doesn't???
Thanks, saved to read.
Jeremiah Murphy
Another thing I have to say. Make sure to list nontangible projects you have worked on and exagerate them a bit. For example, you could say that you tried to start a few companies or worked on a few projects 3-4 years ago.
You could also lie about organizations you're involved in. You could say you volunteered at XXX, YYY, ZZZ. You could lie about hobbies/interests to make yourself seem more like a normie.
You can even lie about references if you pay them. You could list a reference as your college buddy and give him a script to go by if he ever gets a call.
Really it's up to you. Just make sure to keep track of everything. Documentation is key. I lied so much on my resume it's not even funny. It looks very impressive but all I did in college was play vidya. I'm working for myself now so it doesn't really matter, but I was able to land a lot of interviews.
Lucas Nguyen
For what it's worth, I lied on my college apps, I never got around to joining the chess club
David Baker
That's the plan.
I plan to mix legit and non-legit. Gonna do legitimate volunteering and github projects + totally made up shit.
Basically man I'm a fucking loser trying to make it. And I came to the conclusion that lying is a good opportunity for me to progress in my direction.
Isaac Ross
bump
Colton Thomas
>15/hr They don't just give those to everyone with a slick resume, user.
Jaxon Butler
please expand on your resume thing, it sounds intriguing
if u could post censored resume or examples on how you lied on it that'd be great
also what results did u get with that? what went wrong/good?
Jace Wood
>Gonna do legitimate volunteering and github projects + totally made up shit.
this really begs the question, if u program as a hobby can u get away with lying about having a cs degree?
being 2 years into my cs major it seems like it'd be extremely easy lmfao
Liam Reyes
I'll try to post tomorrow when I get on my home computer if this thread is still up and I remember.
Jackson Lopez
> It's not illegal No, it is illegal. That's fraud.
If you try to lie about a degree from a university, especially a good university, they'll come after you. I knew a kid who got sued successfully for 40k from Yale.
Usually $15/hr is the line, anything above and they check your refrences. 99% of places check crimal history regardless of salary - it takes 5 seconds to do.
> former Recruiter
That said, it's very easy to lie about what you do day to day.
Connor Allen
>sued successfully for 40k from Yale fucking lol
Joseph Edwards
> former Recruiter
what's something you could be most impressed about but would have the most difficulty checking?
Eli Watson
Pff of course this works. In germany politicians lie about their PhD and even about having A-levels. Do you think they actually check? Just don't seem too fake and you'll get away with it.
Nathaniel Smith
Yea he is bs, Everyone lies on there resume how do u think people get there foot on the door
For the college part no college goes aftwr u except ivy league cuz there jews, n ur fukin stupid if u put ivy leagu n never even attended lile u honestly think the recruiter sees ivy league n goes yea i believe tht, u go to ivy league svhools for connections tht make so u dont even need a resume to get a job where the company ur applying 2 already knows u by name,
In the tech every lies but never to the big companies,
Elijah Parker
Do it ur not alone i did it, 95 percent of people i know did it, i says 50 of thm lied tht thy finish college just male sure everyrhing is perfect n be confident n never apply to big companies
Oliver Gutierrez
>Everyone lies on there resume how do u think people get there foot on the door
by not being mediocre and spending enough time on their CV to make it look super deluxe
Jonathan Allen
Depends on the line if work > Sales Amount, price of the things sold > management Number of people managed, the scope of the business > medic profession Number of certain procedures performed
Just fudge the numbers, but not the dates (dates are easily verifiable).
Didn't say don't lie, just do what that other user said - half truthes. Omissions. Use the word client instead of customer when possible.
Justin Price
c) you do really well in your current job and then get a better job and then get a better one and rise to a position of importance.
then you have a background audit and your lie is discovered.
Look at it like online dating. If you're 36 and look 26, as some do, then you can lie and get those 18-22 QTs. But what if you really love her and meet the senpai and all? How long can you keep the lie?
Hunter Hernandez
You would have to lie to get an entry-level call center job? What kind of absolute retard are you? I failed out of college and had a 2.3 gpa in high school. I'm 21 and a year away from management.
What the literal fuck are you doing? Go get a job, you shouldn't even have to lie
Jeremiah Watson
It isn't fraud though. It's not illegal.
There have been cases of extremely high position people lying on their resume and getting caught. They never went to prison.
There was a lady who lied about having THREE DEGREES and worked as a dean of a top school for 10 years.
Daniel Jones
there's nothing of any real value in that entire thread. Read the whole thing and it's all mostly built on opinion and a false sense of knowledge.
Lincoln Perez
if you're gonna lie, why do it for a $15/h job? the trick is to go as close as possible to lying
Lincoln Moore
> According to the laws of several states, the cardinal sin of resume fraud is falsifying your educational record. Under the Texas Penal Code, for example, it is illegal to use, or even to just claim to hold, a postsecondary degree you know to be fraudulent, substandard, or fictitious in order to obtain employment. This makes it illegal to either falsely claim you received a degree from an actual, accredited university, or to list a degree from a “diploma mill” (an unaccredited institution that offers “degrees” for a flat fee in a short amount of time with little to no coursework). Punishment for resume fraud of this variety varies from state to state. In New Jersey, the use of a fraudulent degree is subject to a civil penalty of $1,000 for each offense. Texas, on the other hand, classifies falsifying your educational record as a Class B misdemeanor (punishable by up to $2,000 in fines and 6 months in prison), and Kentucky raises it to a Class A misdemeanor (punishable by up to a year in prison).
And, as I said before, colleges come for you in civil suites that can get up to 40k, depending on whether you profited from the job you kids to get.
Jaxson Powell
That's a risk I'm willing to take.
Brayden Price
That's on you my man, but honestly not worth the effort in my mind.
Either they: > Look it up, realized you lied, don't report it, no job > Look it up, realized you lied, report it, fine and record > Don't look it up, find out later during a review, don't report, you get fired and will never be able to use that reference > Don't look it up, find out later, report it, you pay thousands, get a record, lose your job > Don't look it up, you live in constant fear of them finding out and you suffering the above consequences
Robert Richardson
>99% of places check crimal history regardless of salary No they don't.
Jackson Watson
bump!
Austin Turner
>all my references are is my highschool teachers >I graduated 7 years ago >only one job since then
Do people actually call references?
Jacob Miller
1. call university pretending to be employer 2. ask for someone with the same name as you 3. put that person's graduation date and degree on your resume 4. you just graduated uni good job
Ryder King
I've always enjoyed good Jewry, but detest outright lying. I suggest just using hyperbole to make your previous work experience better than it actually is. And if you have to, lie about holding a similar job in a similar pay-scale. There are less things to charge you with, it's a much easier act to keep up; and if you don't bite off more than you can chew (like lying about having an engineering degree) you might actually be able to get hired by another company, and permanently boost your value.
It's essentially the same as having an internship. You shouldn't stay there too long, but having it on your resumé will qualify you for a new field of jobs. Speaking of which, what do you guys think about lying about internships? Is it safer?
Nolan Green
fuck resumes, interviews, and bosses cannot wait to start my own business and be done with that wage slave shit