>Mage should have one less epic than every other class forever. How about we hall of fame Priest you shitter?
Asher Ramirez
What kinda shit will be call OP if made?
Matthew Collins
Stop being a fucktard, Ice Block was ok before Primordial Glyph existed but now its just unfun. Mage can deal, if you want it so much play Wild and stop bitching
Nathan Kelly
I don't even play Mage but it's obviously good for the ecosystem. It keeps you greedy Priest shitters in-check.
Anthony Perry
Ice Block always has been annoying
Andrew Johnson
Ice Block was always annoying but at least you only had to deal with 2. I've had games where I've had to put up with 4 of the things being played.
Jacob Martinez
In the past you only had to worry about 2 though, after that if they had no answer it was game. Half the time it just delayed the inevitable.
Connor Hall
I'd be ok with that too desu
Connor Jenkins
you're annoying
Jacob White
exodia mage is annoying because sometimes you just lose and you dont really have any say in it. sometimes you just pop their ice block 3 times starting from turn 6 and they just combo you on 9 anyway
John Perry
sometimes warlock gets barnes y'shaarj y'shaarj into renounce darkness on turn 4/5.
Thomas Morales
Is Exodia Mage that unfair? They almost always auto-lose to Aggro or Tempo. It's basically just a control killer, isn't it?
Elijah Allen
who else is /naked/ playing some hearthstone?
Kayden Hernandez
He's a triggered priest main.
Nicholas Walker
Depends what they draw. They can completely lock you down with flamestrike, blizzard, frostnova etc and then when you finally get to attack it's iceblock time.
Henry Flores
>he needs to attack top kek *tip shadows*
Luke Ramirez
mage is just the most fucking boring uninteresting passive un-interactive class. they could've made mage amazing and interesting but instead we get generic blizz style ice block solitaire garbage
Thomas Turner
Your shadows aren't aggro or tempo.
Easton Russell
Your Ice isn't meta
Thomas Foster
>You can "Discover" legendaries, massive game changing ones not even related to your class >Everyone has a Death Knight "Jaraxxus type" card now, most even way better than Jaraxxus >Multiple "SUMMON ALL OF THESE CARDS YOU PREVIOUSLY HAD BUT DIED/WERE SICARDED!" cards which are of insane value from what I've seen
What the fuck did they do to this game? Holy fuck.
Ayden Rivera
yes the power level of cards do tend to increase
Isaiah Bennett
Considering dusting Scourgelord Garrosh. I won't spend the dust to make any compatible decks.
Josiah Hernandez
just hold on to it for now bruh, they could make the meta more thicc midrange next xpac and it's generally pretty good
Oliver Martinez
Alright. I'll hang onto it.
Lincoln Ortiz
We'll reach yugio-tier power level soon where cards with global effects like these will be played every turn, if not multiple per turn.
Cameron Reyes
>Mage DK deals 1 damage to any unit, if it kills that unit get a 3/6 body with Freeze and Lifesteal >Jaraxxus summons a 6/6 and you only get 15 HP Fucking hell
Nathan Collins
nah, it takes a very long time to get to that
Ayden King
you think team 5 is ever going to make their build-around cards less braindead than either explicitly mandating deck conditions or "jam every card with this tribal tag on it in your deck"
Easton Roberts
What's the deal with Priest players in rank 20 wild?
Nicholas Lewis
They could just bring back Inspire. I don't know why they think it's a dead mechanic.
Brandon Green
>inspire >good I guess it could work with Raza Anduin but overall inspire was a pretty weak mechanic
Cameron Allen
it had the potential to be borderline op, it fucked up a lot of arena runs because of the snowball potential
Camden Torres
Spawn of Shadows is absolutely insane and disgusting in wild, repeating value like that is either undervalued or broken as fuck
Adrian Brown
>balance is achieved by making sure classes have the same amounts of legendary/epic/etc... wtf
Jackson Butler
mage filling the quest/their pieces by turn 9'ish isn't all that rare. Considering they freeze board 2-3 turns and are invincible 2-3 turns, that's quite a small window to kill them, even for aggro. not saying aggro doesn't have it easier than control, of course they do. but it's not as one-sided as it looks.
And some aggro don't have answers to freeze/doomsayer either, so that's not just 1 turn lost, more like 2-3 (to rebuild a board and attack with it).
Gabriel Gray
Balance? No. Fun? Go play a class that has had half its card pool removed with no replacements.
Chase Rivera
(AKA Warrior)
Anthony Hughes
>Counterspell >Potion of Polymorph >Counterspell >Spellbinder >Potion of Polymorph >Frozen Clone WOW FUN
Xavier Diaz
>Lose because the enemy randomly got exactly what they needed from Discover or Summon Random cards multiple times I have lost games to players that didn't even win using cards that started in their deck or are even from their class.
Hunter Sanders
Now that I've opened Moorabi are there any good or interesting freeze shaman decks?
Charles Cox
>login >spam 30 battlecries in wild casual >open 40 dust >logout a great hearthstone play session. See you all in 3 days
Jose Roberts
point is, the color dot on a card doesn't mean all that much. The top performing mage deck of this meta has 2 epics and 0 legendary.
And it performs much better than quest mage, the one with 10 epics and 2 legendaries (including the quest).
If you're against the removal of cards, period, then don't make it about "Mages don't have enough epics!". And as for that, the removal of cards... Well what is the other option? Blizzard keeps adding bullshit that enable retarded stuff that wasn't possible before. Say, iceblock just blocking for 2 turns while they deal a reasonable amount of damage, while not it's blocking for 3, 4, 5 turns while they do infinite damage. So should we just suffer these bullshit for years until they rotate out?
I don't like the fix either (because yeah, when quest mage and glyph are gone ice block won't be THAT much a problem anymore) but just doing nothing, sucks too. And they'll add shit even more retarded than glyph and quest at some point too, I woulnd,t doubt it.
James Morales
Moorabi tempo dischant is tier 3.
Isaiah Walker
When will Paladin be good
Dominic Robinson
I think classes should have an even number of cards. If they want to get rid of a core card, give them a new core card that's good, fun, and not as broken as the one being replaced.
Oliver Martin
You can't do that with Iceblock as the entire concept of the card is fucked when you can generate more of them at a lower cost to boot.
It would either need to not do what it already does or cost 10 mana or some shit.
Levi Rivera
What is it boys?
Hudson Hernandez
Plus coin counts as a free point towards their quest which is stupid as fuck.
Isaac Diaz
Hadronox
Ayden Butler
Moorabi.
Gavin Lopez
Nope, not quite sure what to do with it.
Dylan Ward
play dragon mage with me at rank 30
Ayden Martinez
Gul'Dangerous to revive those howlfiends for you
James Cook
Zalae's smugness and willingness to answer obvious questions in chat with a condescendingly obvious answer is reaching new levels, I love it
Plus he's playing Egg Hunter
Dylan Turner
there is literally nothing fun about Ice Block
Owen Smith
Recruit is a shit mechanic.
Prove me wrong.
Joseph Thomas
...
Wyatt Wood
Damn, can't argue with that.
BRB, pre-ordering.
Chase Collins
every other card game ever will tell you that each class/color/tribal archetype/whatever having the exact same number of cards says nothing about the evenness of deckbuilding options available
Jordan Martinez
Finja and Patches will probably be stronger "Recruit" cards than any they will print in this set
Evan Morgan
...
Carter Garcia
Imagine them changing the cardtext of those cards.
It kinda makes sense for finja to say "Recruit 2 murlocs," but shit like y'shaarj would look funky.
>at the end of your turn, recruit a minion.
Joshua Parker
HOW DO I BEAT THE LICH KING
Christopher Brooks
What class are you trying to use? I found druid and priest the easiest.
Christopher Rivera
>playing hs now that sc2 is f2p
Alexander Morris
agreed, fuck this card off
Joshua Kelly
why dust any legos now that you can't get duplicates from packs?
Zachary Perry
We've only seen 2 recruit cards so far. I'm sure there will be at least one that will be broken af
Andrew Davis
>MRGLGLR
Hunter Flores
Should I craft the Lich King?
I don't plan on opening anymore koft packs, and it's the last "good" legendary I'm missing.
Brandon Fisher
he's not great
medivh is better in most situations unless you're playing a barnes deck or big priest
Juan Nguyen
it's a pretty strong card and is used in big druid/priest.
Plus it's going to be around for another year in standard.
Austin Hughes
>drew patches >opponent drew keleseth I really hate playing these decks.
Daniel Brown
are we just complaining about toast's decks in general
Christian Brown
I once almost got destroyed by exodia mage, knew the combo was in his hand and he would get the quest next game. I bet it all on free from amber and got a mayor noggenfogger. He fire balled himself to death.
My advice to anyone who really hates exodia mage that much is just run mayor noggenfogger.
Wyatt Gonzalez
chu say?
Landon Taylor
if you play midrange decks or Druid/Priest then go for it, although crafting cards you don't want to put in a deck right away is dum
Jose Mitchell
>Murlocs are naturally resistant to the scourge >Murlocs are GOAT against the Lich King in almost all classes This lore is so tasty
Jaxson Foster
>every meme deck that Toast steals from ladder/another deckbuilder is a toast deck
"no"
Henry Rogers
>last 3 matches have had people roping me after about turn 5 Why are people so salty?
Jeremiah Peterson
Not....QUITE what was planned ;)
Joseph King
>rouge drafted 4 saps, assassination and 2 poison removals Still beat the shit out of him
Parker Jones
First game I played in 3 days. Priest with Barnes on 4 and both servitudes. No wonder this shit is dead.
Luis Moore
cannot wait for priest to get deleted
Jaxon Cox
The decks I have the most fun playing are: Tempo Rogue, Zoolock, Midrange-pally and control Mage.
Would the Lich King make any of these decks "better"? Or at least more fun?
Brody Rivera
Just crafted jade druid.
What do I mulligan for against aggro? Ramp, or something to contest the board?
Adam Adams
Maybe pally, not sure about control mage
Andrew Morales
That is a dashing rogue, OP.
Kayden Martin
Ice block more often that not just does nothing, and it's a negative card advantage of 1 the whole game.
Julian Sanchez
Mulligan for kill yourself.
Landon Morales
Holy fuck, I never realised that Kibler was so insufferable. Between his fake laugh, constant emoting and putting his fingers in his mouth like a fucking toddler, I constantly want to reach through the screen and punch him.
Owen Hughes
He's a cocky asshole
Oliver Lee
I like him, I met him at a mtg tourney and he was super nice. I don't understand why everyone hates him in this thread.
Jose Allen
More importantly his analysis is often straight out wrong and he is hopelessly enthusiastic about every card and falls for the value meme.
Justin Green
I never said I hated him, I've got nothing against him. I was just saying how unbearable he is to watch for me, and that I can't understand how other people enjoy watching him.
Yeah, I agree. His overwhelming positivity is too much for me, as you say his enthusiasm about cards but also when he gets bad rng he just laughs it off merrily. Bleagh
Ryder King
Last card?
Marin if I put him in I'd also want to find a slot for crazed alchemist but not necessarily Sindragosa Pyro
Brayden Thompson
I'd go with Pyros, also spellbender is a weird card in the deck, maybe replace it with ice barrier?