Classic WoW General /cwg/

You know that the mere fact that Classic can exist means changes right?
>classic running on modern hardware
>thus better servers
>less latency issues
>suddenly mechanics that revolve around swing timers are more accurate
>its now different
>just by existing
don't be retarded

>dude just have a toggle between new and old graphics :D
>like just do five times more work so 50 of us can pick the other option :D:D::D

I really wish people who don't know what model skeletons are would not be allowed to talk about ingame models.

Too much work, Classic won't get over 50k subs

>How is WOW a good rpg if you can respec at all especially when how you do it is "here have some gold and magically make me better at something else" thats fucking awful.

This is a good point. Role-playing wise dual spec would be a better implementation, but you'd have to go on an epic and longand difficult quest chain in order to be able to get it. And that quest would be specific for each spec.

Like a dps warrior wanting to be able to spec prot would have to tank a bunch of shit, do a vael/ony type mini boss where you had to keep up threat whilst keeping an add on you or something. And also tank XYZ dungeon.

Man WoW and Multiplayer RPGs in general have so much potential they'll never ever reach.

What about them using those 4x resolution textures they have of all the old models and implementing that?

thats just a slider bar user, they already have that, they just have to include the higher res files in the client and tell the bar to go higher

Don't they already have old/new models toggle on retail?

>dual spec has so much potential

why don't you play on the game that has it then?

why did you delete?

Are you retarded? No one was adamant about content after ~2-3 years of vanilla, post 1.12

Glad you liked my post user.

>Should raids have dungeon timers? (added patch 1.9)
What are dungeon timers and how did they affect raiding?

Nice reading comprehension and shitposting and misconstruing what I'm talking about you mouth breathing shit lord.

Actual dual spec in wow would be terrible. I'm saying that as a roleplaying game the potential has not been realized. It's still dressed up theater.

Yes they are. It's called BC

Yes, and it looked disgusting. Absolute abominations, laughing stock on /v/ for a week straight. All the faces were straight our of a horror game. Like a skeleton killed a night elf to wear her stretched face on his skull.

>10% want Naxx released immediately
>50/50 want rebalanced classes

JUST GO FUCKING PLAY RETAIL FUCK FUCK FUCK FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

These fucking retards, not even 5x changes shit but makes the game better.

This is my game and I will fix it for you.

fix this *unpatches cock*

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OH SHIT

>I WANT MY OWN LINKIN PARK PVP VIDEO MOMMY I NEED TO BE A ROGUE BACK WHEN THEY COULD DESTROY EVERYONE WITH TWO BUTTONS

Which two buttons?

5x is even too slow, 13x takes too long as it is either way.

sinister strike and eviscerate

Daily reminder that there are only two race choices in vanilla wow.

Gnome and subgnome filth

The pacing of the grind is too slow to enjoy the leveling experience and content, if blizzard is smart they would make it 5x exp or more depends.

Sinister Strike doesn't Scale
Rogues are the weakest class in vanilla

look at those sweet fucking tits

i really don't understand how 50% of the playerbase is somehow disgruntled ret pallys, arcane mages, disc priests, moonkins, and enh shamans etc

like for real how does that even work

The only change for the leveling experience they should make is adding a few quests to the blatantly shitty empty zones
They aren't, they're people who wanted to play those things and then realized they're shit
except enhance shammies which melt faces with enough gear so I don't know what they're complaining about. Ret has a legitimate complaint, prot does more damage with the right build.

The retards wont complain that they are getting more ecp that barely changes any pacing but makes you enjoy the game more, you will be grinding dungeons that take hours to complete either way at 60.

The problem with surveys is 99% of the polled people have no clue the actual consequences of their answers. Democracy is a failed system.

1x is completely unplayable, I leveled 1x on a mage, more exp = more fun.

Alexensusal encouraging death threats and harassment to CMs

You need the pacing and feeling of questing and leveling your characterbto max level and faster exp makes you enjoy waaaaaay more than slow exp.

BASED

As someone who recently leveled on a 7x server, I don't agree with you at all.

How long did it take to 60 snd didnt you quest and leveled your character throughout the world?

why me have to walk to dungeon?

I'm not happy my class is already
>the only plate healer
>the best pvp healer by far
>capable of aoe farming like crazy
>one shotting lvl 60s with reckbombs
>have incredibly good buffs like king blessing and salvation

I also want it to be
>a tank as good as warriors
>a top dps

People are never happy.

>make salvation not as fucking overwhelmingly powerful
>make feral as viable as shadow is
>balance can still be as shit as melee hunter/enhancement shaman
>elemental shaman gets things other caster dps classes get for +hit/-resistance

nobody should have problems with these kinds of things, it doesn't break the game it makes it more playable

Tanking yes and the dps needs to be viable and have its spot in raids.

wtf why me not full purple one day after hit 60

I'd rather have enhancement shaman be the decent spec than elemental. Enhancement is actually fun, and poor elemental shamans would just be stuck buffing the melee group anyway.

be careful with the trolling lad because at this rate blizz will actually listen to you and the game will be ruined again

Lightning bolt mana cost from 10% to 8% of base mana pool
Elemental focus from 10% proc chance to 20% proc chance
Chain lightning damage increased by 5%
Storm reach also adds 2% less chance for nature spells to be resisted at both ranks max 4%
Thats all I want for ele.

What was the plan behind the locked instance portal in SW again?

yeah thats true

elemental is the pvp spec right? can keep that same with druids, balance is pvp for them i think (like 30 into it rest resto? or same but with feral)

the buffing thing is true as well, if you gave ret pallies improved auras to buff their groups that would be cool, i don't really know how else you could fix rets they are pretty fucking shit atm

just you wait anything i suggest will be drowned out by retailfags and we'll have 20 man strat and BWL and dire maul at launch with flying mounts or some shit

About 20 hours, I was meticulously keeping up with it.I leveled only in Kalimdor and did not do a single quest in Eastern Kingdoms, I also skipped Stonetalon Mountain, Desolace, Winterspring, Silithus, and Shimmering Flats completely. Between the levels of 22-34 I used dungeonfinder, hence the skipped zones, though that was a mistake and slowed me down a lot. I never completed a zone either, I must have only done a fourth of the zones pre-level 22, and after level 34 I probably did 1/2 of every zone.

I think something to consider is a lot of those specs are sub-par in DPS because they're relying on DoT debuffs for it. Enhancement shaman basically can't use abilities in a raid because there are only 8 slots.

That'd be a cleaner way to solve the damage issues by having all the classes capable of dealing their maximum potential to a boss.

Siege of Stormwind raid

rape dungeon for all the captured horde sluts

you joke about it but it's really sad how dumb fucks who play 2 hours a week complained they didn't have gear as good as the poopsockers, and enough complained so that the entire game had to be ruined

Add Ashenvale to the skip list actually, I did one (1) quest there.

elemental is only a better pvp spec than enhancement if your weapon sucks. Enhancement is inherently superior because shamans have access to the single best melee buff in the history of the game

So it should be the class that makes the whole faction better at pve, and compensates horde racials with blessing of freedom to make them equal in pvp, and be the best pvp heal, the best heal during Naxx patch and the only class being good at 3 roles ?
How does it make balanced ?

plenty of horde bring 1 enhancement shaman post 16 debuff slots

that number seems fine, most raids i'm just seeing a billion deep wounds on mobs anyways lol

>Should loot be pick-upable automatically without having to click the item in the loot window? (loot had to be clicked in the loot window to be pick up in vanilla)

This fucking retard pretend like auto loot wasn't a thing

Thats decent time, they could probably tweak exps for the quests in the zone to not be greyed out as easily so you finish chains of your choice snd can do class quests with exp.

warriors literally have 3 viable specs, and i don't even mean pvp since i see plenty of raids with a few arms spec warriors with BRE that are either full on dpsing as arms or are 31/5/15 off tanks

with that in perspective having paladins with 3 viable specs isn't an issue at all, particualrly with there absoultely needing to be more tanks

i can see ret being only mediocre at best though and just being a buffing class similar to an enhancement shaman or shadow priest though

you also need to nerf paladin healing 100 fucking percent, blessing of salvation means any hardcore top tier raiding guild goes alliance 100% of the time it just makes threat trivial in comparison to horde, make their single target heals slightly nerfed as well maybe? i don't know much about healing so couldn't really comment on how to nerf them specifically

i noticed that too but tbf it means by default

on warmane wotlk servers the buttons are reversed basically i noticed/remembered

right click default is autoloot, shift right click is single loot

WoW could use loot filters like Path of Exile has.
In PoE you can configure what loot is displayed to you, trash loot you don't want will not even show on your screen, and you can auto-loot some stuff.
Like if you are farming in an area, you can select to loot everything that isn't [Horse Hair] or [Cracked Tooth] or whatever.

Player housing area - youtube.com/watch?v=VyEInq6eRFo

what if blizz announced this to kill off the pserver scene then spite us for not liking retail by adding retail-esque changes to classic?

Tanking should be viable for pallies as should the dps specs, paladibs that want to dos shouldnt be shafted because healers or tanks of same class exist.

wow didn't have autoloot on release.

Player housing like Guild Wars has.

Seems pretty reasonable with the changefags being the apparent minority on most subjects. It seems as though they were the real vocal minority all along?

The only problem is this. This should not be 50/50.

>not looting absolutely everything wherever you are

pleb with not full 16/18 slots detected

>tfw this fucks with the fish bot

Makes me wonder why they didn't include that in the survey.

If you don't want changes, you are welcome to go play Light's hope

WE WILL RISE

YAAASSSSSSSS

WE GROW STRONGER

>If you don't want changes, you are welcome to go play Light's hope
THIS

As you are welcome to go play legion, if you do not want real vanilla.

Its balanced because its not overpowered and classes arent meant to be homogenous, paladins are alliance only anyway, all specs and classes should be viable.

druid and paladin should be able to do thing when any other class can do thing too.

As you are welcome to go play legion, if you do not want a better vanilla.

Warrior is OP, but it's compensated by being a real nightmare to level, and costs three times as much to gear before raids and without a good way to farm.
That's what it makes it balanced. The game is not only about raids. You have to spent 200 hours suffering being the target of every ganker, having to rest after killing a mob your level so you can be good after.

Just like hunter is exactly the opposite, extremely easy to level, OP for low level pvp, best dps in green gear when you start raiding which makes MC being clearable in 2 weeks after a server launch. But they don't scale and become shit end game pvp and pve.

Every single class is the best at something, even druids which are by far the best 1v1 pvpers.
Upgrade one and it becomes unbalanced.

The better vanilla is called Burning Crusade, user.

They should've added a "Yes - only to make bad specs more viable", I have absolutely no faith in them when it comes to nerfs.

it's not fair, we want to tank and dps and ranged dps, and heal just as good as other classes. you can't tell me how to enjoy the game!

Dumb ass, go look at osrs a successful reincarnation same vision osrs brought back with tons of new content and improvemebts that feels genuine to os feel.

Osrs at 5 am est has 30,000 playing at same time that is almost the peak numbers of runescapes time.

i've levelled a warrior to 60 and tanked and shit

the rewards at the end of the struggle are much more worthwhile than the sacrifices

you basically don't have to do shit for yourself once you become a good tank, its retarded

if you are a semi competent druid/paladin prot tank you can make like 30g for a scholo/strat ud run because no warriors want to do it

that shouldnt happen

emphasize differences in the tanking styles of each class so that they are each needed for different fights, paladins getting taunt sure, but being kings of suppression room

druids holding aggro on 2-5 mobs is also really cool, while warriors should be kings of single target

Paladins have 3 specs and all 3 should be viable.

and Blizzard is going to "improve" wow just like jagex did to osrs.

If you don't like it, you're welcome to play on a private server

me wan world pvp banned on pvp server

This is the big thing about vanilla that a lot of people simply won't be able to grasp. The idea of a class having 'leveling' as their specialty advantage probably wouldn't make sense to a lot of them.

It's going to be an issue when people try and demand that a vanilla class play how it does on retail so that they can just make a level 60 version of their existing character and have it work the same.

Besides, Paladin and Druid tanks are already viable in some cases. Druids can off-tank sometimes and Paladins are great for dungeon tanks. But it's not raiding, so people will whine about it, because unless a spec is for raiding or PvP then what's the point?

>even druids which are by far the best 1v1 pvpers
I knew they were high tier but not the absolute best since I almost always got my shit rammed in against warlocks when I played a druid.

yes do 3 thing good for balance reason