When PC dieversity history meets "Civilizations"

Game is created by a guy who worked with "Civilizations" and it resembles "Civilizations" idea. So here are some questions you can ask, if you are familiar with the history.
In what way Koreans and Japanese are Civilization or a decent society until just recently? Japan was a meme country before forced reformations of the 1860s, Korea was irrelevant developing country until the 1970s. China wasn't a thing except for the early times. In Mercenary camp you can encounter "Chinese Hand Cannons" - now what the fuck is that? High ranked mercenary is "Bedouin Rider", again, militarily speaking, it was not a thing. In Coalitions you have options like "Aztecs", "Cherokee", "Maori", "mongols", "Egyptians", "Indians", "Russians", "Americans". Now, what coalition could you possibly make with bunch of violent cannibals without the legal system like Aztecs, Cherokees and Maoris? And the mngols? Their """empire""" couldn't even establish proper infrastructure, they just moved around. Their whole """empire""" was just presence here and there. Seems super forced

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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hand_cannon
tarlton.law.utexas.edu/aztec-and-maya-law/aztec-international-and-military-law
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Samara_Bend
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It's a history themed board game. It and Civilizations are not actually trying to simulate history.

>In what way Koreans and Japanese are Civilization or a decent society until just recently? Japan was a meme country before forced reformations of the 1860s, Korea was irrelevant developing country until the 1970s. China wasn't a thing except for the early times
this is stupid, learn more history
Agree with the rest though, tribals shoud stay tribals, but then mongols, egyptians, indians, and are pretty descent, they're more advanced than average medieval europeans

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>mongols
>advanced
pick one. OP is spot on. They had nothing, but nomadic manpower.
>Sgypt, India
>more advanced than Europeans
>what is Rome

>"Chinese Hand Cannons" - now what the fuck is that?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hand_cannon
>High ranked mercenary is "Bedouin Rider", again, militarily speaking, it was not a thing.
Military speaking, Bedouin riders captured Damascus and generally destabilized the Ottoman Empire.
>Mongol Empire
Right, an empire so irrelevant that the Chinese decided to name it an official dynasty, and with so few permanent settlements that poets still write about its palaces.
>Korea was irrelevant developing country until the 1970s. China wasn't a thing except for the early times.
lmao retard.
>In what way Koreans and Japanese are Civilization?
In the sense that their society meets all of the standards of typical definitions of civilization. Get some anthropology in you, son.

> What coalition could you possibly make with bunch of violent cannibals
Aztecs themselves was a coalition of tribes, retard.

>mongol poets

>several shit tier buildings in Karakorum
>palaces

>so chinese took the name after them
Who were in their turn extremely irrelevant

Its just a board game OP

>bunch of violent cannibals without the legal system like Aztecs
tarlton.law.utexas.edu/aztec-and-maya-law/aztec-international-and-military-law

Butthurt Hungarian detected.

what hungary has to do with this discussion...

>OMG why is video game, that doesnt even attempts realism, not realistic?

Is this American power hour?

kek and you come and post on Veeky Forums. get learned son.

Fuck off this aint /v/. Seriously go kys.

>the Chinese
tbf they also teach in schools that they are a separate species of man, directly descended from Homo erectus who have been living in China for over a million years
Hence their completely unique features, which are nothing like those of Tibetans, Japanese, Koreans, etc...

Is this a meme or am i being baited

>dieversity
>dieversity
>dieversity

>China wasn't a thing except for the early times.
The fuck do you mean by "the early times?" China's dynastic system started a millennium before Classical Greece and lasted until the 20th century.

hunnic invasion and mongol invasion are separated by several centuries. you can't call anyone, who sees china for its bullshit, a butthurt hungarian, you rice loving cuck

sounds like the game was programmed first then they just added a meme history superficial theme later

The Mongols were very relevant up until the 18th century.

>mongols were very relevant up until 18th century
All these European diplomatic missions asking their "very relevant" opinion on how to colonize Africa, Americas and Asia. All their "very relevant" diplomats around the West...

>Their """empire""" couldn't even establish proper infrastructure

If todays Canada and Russia can't establish proper infrastructure in their snowy areas then why do you think then the mongols with their even bigger terrority back in the 13th century could do it?

>but m-muh Rome could do it!

Yeah thats why they couldn't hold Mesopotamia and other eastern areas for more then 1 year.

He's not complaining about a lack of realism, he's complaining about 'diversity' somehow worsening the game because there's' a few civilizations that aren't European, actually he's probably just baiting

>All these European diplomatic missions asking their "very relevant" opinion on how to colonize Africa, Americas and Asia. All their "very relevant" diplomats around the West...

And nowadays your "very revelant europeans" are getting colonized back by their colonies, just ask GREAT Britt- oh i mean GREAT PAKISTAN of course!

>whatabout
Still a nuclear power? What is mongolia today? A factory of Russian illegal slaves and cum baskets. A land-wall against China

>Canada can't establish proper infrastructure
It can. It did. Mongols were useless undeveloped scum who only could zergrush

>nomadic
>manpower
choose one

China teaches a multi-regional idea of human evolution but im not sure if it's that retarded.

Stay mad subhuman degenerate cuck

>post consists entirely of buzzwords

Could you please stop being so unintelligent?

Korea and Japan do fit under the umbrella of "civilization," son. They had infrastructure, some sort of centralized power, had written laws... do I need to go on?

Atzecs fit still. So do the Mongols "Timurids and Mughals anyone?). I am less sure om the Iroquois. Maori/Polynesians? They were not a civilization (more of a culture) but I suspect it is onlyan attempt (however weak, the Vietnamese or the Indonesians would have been better) to be original, as opposed to rearsh the usual roster.

user it's a fucking game.

It's an abstraction.

Do you also get assmad about how cowboys don't always win when kids play cowboys and Indians? Do you get assmad about how 'battleship' is not an accurate depiction of 20rh century naval warfare? It's for balance and simplicity purposes.

Jesus christ. I'm still trying to wrap my head around how fucking retarded you'd have to be to waste time playing these dumb games, much less bitching about them. Like, go read a book or listen to an online lecture if you want to learn history.

t. someone who has never been to the uk/is 60 + and uses the daily mail as their only source of information

>Korean and Japan fit under 'civilisation
>Not China

East Asia is called the Sinosphere you retard. Korea, Japan and Vietnam all had bureaucratic systems modelled on that of China's, not to mention architectural styles and basically everything else

Dailymail is less biased than CNN; CNN is more subtle but is much more impactful in its' promotion of agenda

i bet you think alex jones is a good source of information

what, the Mongols and their successor states were relevant for other reasons

>Still a nuclear power

Yeah one without a say in global politics, USA is the only white country that has a say and even then they are just kike puppets.

>What is mongolia today

It's still mongol, unlike Great Pakistan, you should better ask yourself how Brittain and it's people will look in 50 years.

>Big "Ben" Laden
>Halal Beef Eater

haha true story.

Your "white master race" has been fooled by the jews ever since Alexander met them in asia in 300 BC.
They made you sell your own culture for "diversity"!
So much for the your "master race"

Still want to go on?

> B-but muh BREXIT

i thought the remove kebab guy was in prison for war crimes

Nice argument, and no, I don't

Dailymail actually cites their sources (although of course, they're highly selective) and promote their agenda through rhetoric and bombast, CNN does the exact same but promote their agenda through subtle psychologising. The latter is much more heinous and thus I'd find the former as a better source of information because you could immediately perceive the bias and attain the facts you need to know while removing the bias

Not really. Mongol conquests failed to install governing systems and a lot of localism and regional autonomy was within their massive Eurasian Empire that so many Mongolaboos gloat over. Vast swathes of central Asia and Siberia also had practically nobody in them except a few wandering nomads who were moving too fast to be taxed. I suppose the Yuan dynasty is the most meaningful Mongol successor state but they only lasted less than two centuries

>Vast swathes of central Asia and Siberia also had practically nobody

Just like the 2 largest possesions of the "British Empire" - Canada and Australia.

And unlike the Brits the Mongols met resistance on the same technological level - in the form of other nomads.

Do i need to remind you about the fact that the Mongols conquered asian lands eventhough they were a fucking tribe in the start - meanwhile the Brits didn't manage to conquer one single country in europe eventhough they were one of the dominant powers there since the medieval ages?

>USA is the only white country that has a say and even then they are just kike puppets.
>What is Russia.

you should have gone to Veeky Forums

Russia isn't the Soviet Union anymore. The only thing they have are nukes.

It looks like a shitty mobile strategy game, who the fuck cares?

Why did you even bother to download it? You just wanted to start fights on Veeky Forums

Inshallah, Soon Daud Kamran of NWFP shall be the Prime Wazir of the United Qaliphate. Allah save the Queen!

it's just funposting retard.

>Russia
>white
open borders with Central Asia and a 15% Muslim population.

Yeah, so irrelevant that they can keep up what are essentially puppet states up with relative ease. In decline? Sure. Totally irrelevant? No.

>15% Muslim
>Somehow that means that they cannot have white skin.


>Your "white master race" has been fooled by the jews ever since Alexander met them in asia in 300 BC.

The fuck are you smoking? For starters, Alexander genuinely liked proskinèsis (even if he failed to understand that the King of Kings wasn't given proskinèsis because he was deemed a god) and ran with it on creating a cult around his personality, no need to involve Jews.

Then there is The fact that Jews at the time HAD A STATE ON THEIR OWN,what could realistically compel them to say "y'know what, let's Fuck our best trading partners over because reasons"? At leastthe idea that Jews hate whites because Romans razed the temple of Jerusalem (and even then it's absurd to think so).

The Mongols weren't a tribe you fucking retard.

Genghis Khan did 'conquer' some Mongol chiefdoms and unify them into one big ass military force that practically outnumbered even the largest nomad force anywhere by the hundredfolds. Also they annexed part of the Balkans before they were even able to penetrate in Southern China.

>The fuck are you smoking?

Are you not seeing the bigger picture here? Alexander like the good goy he was gave Macedonian citizenship to the Jews.
The romans persecuted Christians - but not Jews who were basically the same religion with just a few things changed.

>largest nomad force anywhere by the hundredfolds

Not true see:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Samara_Bend

>not knowing what Central Asians look like

Hungary destroyed the Mongols.

He looks more Caucasian than central Asian. Central Asians are basically gooks mixed with some whites.

I think he means other poets.

Like, have you ever read Kubla Khan, Samuel Taylor Coleridge?

It's only considered one of the greatest poems in the English language featuring heavily Mongolian imagery, with the setting being in Xanadu.

>Alexander like the good goy he was gave Macedonian citizenship to the Jews.
>Citizenship.
>Worth anything in Alexander's empire.

>He doesn't know the Judean revolts, started because Jews believed the Messiah had arrived for real and that they wouldn't stop at merely being a "legal religion."
>He doesn't know about the raze of Jerusalem's Temple.
>He doesn't get that's why they were everywhere on the Eurasian continent.

>He doesn't understand Julian the Apostate's endgame.
>He doesn't know Sassanids used Jews to settle Jerusalem when the Oriental Roman Empire became fully Christian.

Keep sprouting bullshit, it will make your retarded cause even less credible and respectable!