When did Germany & Austria become "Western"?
When did Germany & Austria become "Western"?
Chase Ortiz
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Robert Garcia
5th century, when their tribes set up functioning states in the remnants of the decaying Roman "empire".
Adam Gomez
after karl conquered them
Carson Ortiz
After the Franks conquered the Slavs in Carantania and established their law and catholic doctrine, afterwards Bavarians settled there and it became Austria with time.
Traditionally in europe catholicism is percieved as "western" europe, "orthodoxy" as eastern europe, since the roman times.
Austin Lewis
1990. 1945 they became a vassal state of the US. The unification of the remaining German territories completely integrated the country into capitalism.
Kevin Watson
Austria is culturally and ethnically eastern European
Evan Hall
Soon baby.
Andrew Thomas
i would say whenever they switched to Catholicism would be the marker.
Ian Cox
2 and a half year old article on Germany's viewpoint about being western or not:
spiegel.de
Cooper Collins
After Charlemagnes conquest of aggression directed at the Saxons
Caleb Butler
When They invented Western civilization as we know it around the 18th century ad
Asher Gray
Never, they still are 'the hun'.
Ryder Powell
After a French dude called Charles le Magne conquered them
Oliver Robinson
Find me a primery sources out of Charlemagnes reign, I'll even give you his sons in which he or someone else is called Charles and not K/Carolus.
Always this we wuz ...n shit
Landon Cox
He was a frank
Levi Davis
Lel it's culturally bavarian and ethnical probably too
Ryan Campbell
No
Lincoln Torres
Inb4 Austrian Autists deny that there "Nationhood" is a fucking joke
Jace Rodriguez
I love it when you anglos call us hun. You're sweeties, too.
Elijah Flores
The real austrian authist far rights deny their"nationhood" and call them self german some of them even are in the parliament for the FPÖ
Sebastian Hall
It may not be what snotty Viennese think but historically that's not such an outrageous opinion to hold.
Jonathan Brown
Westernization was started in 1945 and ended in1989 when the former DDR was absorbed into the BRD.
Germans didnt have proper democratic traditions for ages, which seems to be the basic paradigm for being considered Western. Post-Versailles Germany was basically an early 20th century Iraq. Having been invaded, its dictator/emperor overthrown (their OWN doing, but still) and suddenly being expected to act in a western and democratic fashion. Its no surprise that without any investment from the victorious allies (cant blame France though, they wanted to end the threat the only feasable way, save for any sort of investment like it happend post wwii) that the Germans ended up being ruled by those ISIS-tier Nazis (or are ISIS Nazi-tier?).
Samuel Walker
>save for any sort of investment like it happend post wwii
If by "investment" you mean dividing the country in too part and subjecting it to never-ending military occupation, sure
Germany was treated to kindly by Versailles and that's why they were able to chimp out again
James Martinez
I think Hitler was a fluke, and I'm personally glad that neither the U.K. nor U.S. conceded to France's little hissyfit. Versailles would have been fine if it had been enforced and the Austrians had eventually been able to join after a period of time.
Gabriel Baker
Ethnically yes, culturally no.