So they do comparable damage and trading blows can actually work? An all thrust-gemmed church pick (at 50 SKL / 25 STR) can do as much damage as 2x blunt gem + 1x heavy abyssal Kirkhammer (at 50 STR / 25 SKL)?
Robert Garcia
even with 1 thrust gem and 2 27% i can one shot 40 Vitlets if they try to trade
Got a bit greedy there at the end still got the reward though
Julian Morales
Did I just bugged the vermin crush animation?
Grayson Howard
Kirk does way higher base damage, it's just that many of the Church Pick's R2 attacks have huge multipliers, like 2x and 2.35x listed damage for the charge R2 + followup, respectively. Also no one wears thrust armor
William Harris
is there an actual use for the church pick L2 attack? It does as much damage as my bare fist
Luke Parker
alright, 2 more runs on this one then we'll be doing Isz, glyph 5wagd6c4. I'll have to make all of them so it'll take a minute to be summoned. making pretty decent time here
aren't there gargoyles on L2 to be farmed that drop nourishing gems? I'll keep one of these open for that if so
Chase Perez
in pwmf22gu yes
Jace Robinson
Taking a while to get summoned this time around
Benjamin Brown
>session lost
Aaron Bennett
NANI?!
Ayden Phillips
I might have silenced the bell to rering as soon as you were summoned, sorry about that. we're at the fog now
Adrian Martinez
Trying out a BLT build. The tricked Chikage sidestep-lunge attack is shit, as are the R1 attacks (damage is good but moveset is garbage). You always swing them in an X-pattern so half the time you miss just because the enemy is on the wrong side of the downswing, or they are too low to the ground or something. I don't even lock on with it anymore usually, I just manually free aim and point the camera up/down so I can actually make the swings connect.
I noticed I had to do this with the charged R2 of the tricked saw spear as well. It wouldn't attack towards the lock-on target, but down and to the left instead. I needed to free-aim my backstabs if I wanted to use the followup on them staggered
Nathan Wood
This happen last night, I can hire a killer pls
pass: gitgut
Im in front the laurence vicar
Julian Thomas
Dihrael, make the next run without me, I want to help .
just to save on time we will move on to Isz after this one, I'll probably end up farming by myself anyway after you two leave. again, glyph will be 5wagd6c4. same pass
Aiden Jenkins
A FUCKING RADIAL 27.2% ARC BUT NO ADEPT
Asher Harris
Does your item discovery effect drop quality?
Kevin Fisher
No
Justin Murphy
People say no.
Levi Jenkins
whats a good helmet to use with the crowfeather garb? im getting a bit sick of the beak mask
Dylan Hughes
hungry skeleton mask
Noah Collins
The Black Hood from the Foreigner Set actually pairs nicely.
John Clark
Gordon Lightfoot.
Blake Robinson
>drop down on top of coffins to reduce fall damage >get literally stuck between then
godammit
Liam Robinson
Anyone want company?
Henry James
Might be going through the DLC now so if you wanna come, I'll ring at the first lamp
rus version I swear I'll come back for help when I fight against the orphan of kos
My noob sense told me (I do all alone a back in time but take me like 2 hours to kill some bosses)
Chase Davis
Cainhurst helmet
Robert Cruz
Ringing.
Benjamin Moore
I'm in the mid of a farming session, mind giving me a (you), when you're about to fight Ludwig?
Nolan Reed
...
Josiah Wilson
we will do this one three more times and then I'll call it, I'm getting hungry
Dylan Miller
How significantly does ATK vs. Beasts/Kin Down affect your damage?
Jeremiah Gutierrez
what in the shit? I didn't even know those existed.. good fucking drop man
Adam Ramirez
Not really that much, from my experience, even with the same curse on all three gems. Point is, I don't have any use on this build for this ultra-rare gem that I'll never be able to obtain on my Arc/Str character.
Adam Evans
From what I can tell: Attack VS Beasts down 50% would mean you're dealing half damage with all attacks with the weapon that you would normally inflict.
Jacob Allen
Huh, then it is pretty significant actually
Xavier Murphy
Not too badly, and if it came to it you could always just use papers
Caleb Wilson
Anyone up for helping with Ailing Loran layer 3 boss and the defiled chalice after that?
Ringing at layer 3 lamp pass bbg will wait for 2.
Andrew Morgan
Personally, I use a whirligig saw with vsKin down and half physical, half fire damage for everything non-kin and a whirligig saw that has a juicy 142% damage dealt to kin and deals only bolt damage for kin. It depends on what you fight, my dude.
Matthew Myers
Jesus Christ, that's rare as shit fuck. Congrats man! Slight envy.
Bentley Wilson
>watchers' cold gem I'm stopping here, I'm about to cry. I'll help . Thanks for hosting Teague and thanks Cybil for the help.
Jaxon Diaz
I love how this game has alternate animations for some grab attacks when they are lethal, I just watched a shark giant gulp down a cooperator. The invasion was really fun, the host ended up running out of vials and died right after doing the animation for having none left. Do other Souls games do this with grabs?
Sebastian Edwards
wtf bros I though Zullie was supposed to kill chalices and make everyone migrate to DS3
Levi Lewis
Oh shit, my b. I almost instantly got two co-op partners when I rang, I didn't bother to check the thread.
Brandon Brown
>migrate to DS3 We would migrate to a good game instead.
Connor Wood
>a bolt gem, a fools gem and fire gem >only two temperings
the drops in Isz are weird as shit sometimes.. oh well. thanks for coming along madman and cybil, enjoyed the company.
Jason Allen
Thank you, Breela and Hibiki. Poor Ludwig went down in a minute. I'lll be ringing by the cells whenever you're ready.
Wish I had more LUDWIG images to use
Lincoln Thompson
We done?
Ryan Evans
Ringing in the jail. Sorry about the beginning there. I didn't realize you had the shortcut open and was just mindlessly killing. Turned around toward the top of the stairs and realized I was alone.
Logan Rodriguez
Still there?
Nathaniel Parker
They're not any less fun to do desu.
DS3 has the best online out of the Souls games but there's like no real thrill in co-oping through it versus co-oping chalices.
Eli James
Yeah it's being weird I'm gonna restart the game.
Thomas Anderson
Okay, I'm waiting in front of the stairs, before the fog gate.
Leo Jones
Or co-oping the DLCs or co-oping pretty much any boss besides One Reborn and Rom
Sebastian Perry
DaS3 is quite good user. The only Souls game that's a bit sub par is DaS2, and even then there's some people that still love playing it. I don't think From has recently produced any bad game, and I say recently because I haven't played King's Field and such.
Adrian Davis
No worries, I was trying to get your attention but could''t. So I just laid coins for you to follow when you found out we weren't behind you.
Kayden Parker
Who wants coop in NG++ Hunter Nightmare? I'll collect all items so no need to rush. Beckoning at lamp, pass is myside
Chase Barnes
Still not working. I'm gonna let it go for now sorry!
Evan Brooks
I'm not sure if it's that simple. I used beasthunter gems in my holy moonlight sword thinking they would be like having super-powerful ATK UP nourishing gems vs beasts, but it seemed like the weapon was noticeably weaker (against a beast boss) if I used two 27% beast gems and a 21.5% nourishing instead of just all nourishings. A 21.5% and 19.3% nourishing plus a single 27% beashunter gem does more than two 19.3%'s and a 21.5% though. Maybe beast / kin modifiers are calculated before defenses or something, I don't know.
Easton Morales
Ringing.
Sebastian Diaz
How bad is durability down on gems?
Nolan Green
Anyone wants to join me for Old Yharnam on my new character? pass hunt
Jose Martin
Sure
Brayden Fisher
it's rather annoying and gives this nagging feeling about being limited on how many times you can swing your weapon, but know that your durability only goes down when your weapon bounces off a wall or when you hit an enemy or breakable object (breaking pots will destroy your durability). The higher the max durability of the weapon (and the less often you swing it), the less dura down matters.
Aiden Miller
It depends. If you're gemming something easy, get another gem. If you're say, Korean gemming a Bloodletter, go with it, it has super high durability anyways, just remember to repair after a few invasions or a long coop session. Something worthy of note is that from what I've seen Bowblade doesn't lose durability when shooting, and Tonitrus on the other end of the scale, loses durability like crazy so be wary of putting those gems on it.
Jace Smith
Breela, we're at the fog waiting for you.
Christopher Bell
Sorry. Ringing for Maria. Don't forget you have to BHM before you can summon.
Christopher Wright
a gargoyle radial nourishing gem with +5.x Durability UP as a secondary effect does wonders for the tonitrus. You can swing it like 3x as much before it breaks. IIRC it breaks fast because hitting thing while it is buffed counts as two hits, and OFC the weapon is R1-spammy as hell and has only 100 durability max
Cooper Peterson
Fun fact: that secondary effect is called "dense"
Cooper Morgan
Can someone teach me how to use the wheel properly? My stats atm are 25 str and 20 arc. I am working for the 50 arc. What does this l2 do that makes me take damage?
Going to grab Church Pick and then I'll ring at Fishing Hamlet, anons
Ian Carter
That poison was a lot faster than I remember
William Bennett
Ringing.
Thomas Turner
A lower base damage * 1.54 is still less damage than a higher base damage * 1.27
What I don't get is why it seems to use a different unit than the durability down curses. They come as -60 while durability up comes as +6. What does this unit even mean? It couldn't be just +6% because that wouldn't have any noticeable effect on the Tonitrus' durability. -60 may mean it breaks 60% faster; it kind of feels like it does at least.
