/scg/edg/ Star Citizen Elite Dangerous General #233

$1000, 'stock' of 500

Also make a refund subreddit so they know who is cashing out, for how much and what ships they took with them.
Goons looking to get a list of Orgs that are weak for launch of SC to infiltrate and take over.
Or it could just be the tinfoil hat speaking.

My patrol fleet

?

apparently we can not

And they sell out in an hour.

>an hour
try less than 10 mins
even less if they don't limit it to one per account

>goons so desperate they appear and start >greentexting in some 200 viewer youtube stream of 3.0 gameplay

>good visibility but have to strain your neck every time you want to look at a screen or press a button

>he's been posting this for 2 months and he still doesn't know

>sees goons everywhere
>doesn't realize he has a skelly inside him
>doesn't realize said skelly is a goon
YOU'RE THE GOON NOW!

What would specifically be the crime? Defamation?

>Half life 2: episode 3 = Half life 3
Just
fucking
stop

Oh dear.

there are no writers left at Valve, Half-Life is ogre user

That and breaking NDA and ToS.

Breaking terms of service has never been and never will be a punishable crime. The only thing they can do I terminate service.

I don't think breaking an NDA/TOS is explicitly a crime, but lawsuit worthy potentially. As that recent thing about Epic suing the kid who broke the TOS by not only cheating but showing others how to cheat.

Such a disappointment if that's what we're getting today. I mean, i didn't expect a third new ship this week, but landbuys are about the most boring thing I can imagine them selling

Yes I'm proud of my fleet

>Implying they won't sell you a ship that lays the beacons

>sold by Greycat, not UEE
>allow surveyors to secure a beacon

Actually, after seeing this picture I'm more convinced that it's not land claims.

>cig just sells beacons for $250 a pop
>limited to 500 beacons
>still sold out in 10 minutes

If Derek and his goons were serious about bringing CIG down they would start asking how much backer money was given to oculus and what kind of return on that investment has come back to game funding.

- t. Ex-CIG Employee

proofs?

And so they wait, and when that page posts, man, nobodies ready for it.

And you're going to fly and operate all those ships at once how exactly, user?

When people saying goons are they talking about people from eve online goons?

Good to know. I wasted a bunch of time fucking around with data delivery last night without making much money, but I'll look around for some of those resource sites to do some bounty hunting.

Can anyone link / suggest a good PvE combat build for the Cobra MkIII? Maybe one for the Viper MkIV too.

>Viper
I used the Viper instead of the Cobra for bounty hunting. I think I had two gatlings and two lasers on there (not beam, used burst, forgot what it's called). The easiest way to cheese and get easy money from bounty hunting in RES is to enter an instance a few times until you find anacondas and the like. Make sure there is security flying around and grab the last few hits off of pirates that security is going after. That will get you some money to start off but you'll get bored eventually

I would command from the Polaris while my Org does the grunt work retard

we all know who they really mean, user

The only good thing Ben ever did was BTFO the Goons

>Thinking there are going to be people that would rather serve as crew on your vessels than operate their own spaceships that they paid hundreds of dollars for.

You're delusional. There are so many more purchased ships than actual players that the vast majority of these are going to sit unused in hangars for all eternity aside from the occasional photo shoot. My friends buying Caterpillars and shit all all convinced that the rest of us are going to want to man turrets and shit and it's going to be a rude awakening when they figure out I'd rather fly my 325A solo.

Talking about autists that pay five dollars to use a forum.

eddp.co/u/ALCgBk9K

Loadout for a Viper MkIV would be nearly the same, except you can get away with all fixed weapons since it has better convergence on the small hardpoints.

Ten dollars

Yes and no, they're talking about the "Something Awful" AKA tenbux forum group that makes a life for themselves shitting up everything they touch, which also spawned the EVE online "Goonswarm". Despite what they say there is massive overlap between the group in EVE and the group in SC "FLJK/Goonrathi" in terms of both ideology officers and membership.

However they are not 100% the same, they do however operate from the same home, the SA forums, and run the same playbook. Which is to say, "win" by metagaming, cheating, blackmailing developers, DDOSing servers, being terminally autistic in terms of attrition conflicts(meaning they'll win by being willing to spend literally their entire lives in a game, they'd lose a dozens ships in eve to kill a single miner simply because they play all day and night can can win by expending money to suicide gank you until you can no longer afford to rebuild) and generally doing anything except actually being good at game.

Alright CO!
Here we GO!

>This is what solo players believe

>generally doing anything except actually being good at game
that's why they were never successful in any other game that's not a spreadsheet sim

and why they'll be shit in SC unless they get everyone else to refund their good ships and start in auroras so the goon who still have 6 gorillion caps and heavies can win by cheese and numbers.

Alright thanks for the info

indeed, but it also gave the horde of retards on RSI general free license to witch hunt anyone who had relevant criticisms and concerns by blanket labeling them a goon

The community somehow thinks if you don't want to suck CIG cock, but still want to have open discourse , you must be a plant by Derek "Literally Hitler" Smart or some shit

and how is that belief incorrect?

>three minutes past
ROBERTS.
WHAT THE FUCK.

I have 19 actives in my org right now, and another 30 or so prospects from my larger gaming group fully half of them specifically want to play as crew on other peoples ships and are not interested in piloting themselves. One guy very specifically want to be the chief engineer, another wants to play as a combat medic. We're coming in from planetside so group segmentation and non-primary roles are already ideas we understand. What solo players lack is the perspective of group play, you think being a gunner or engineer or whatever means being a mook on some randoms assholes ship, but you don't understand how fun it is to be part of a cohesive effective team in games and to know that by working together as one unit, one ships, one vehicle, you can be far more effective than every member of the team acting as an individual.

Further, If there are 5 of us, one has a hull D and the other four have aurora's, the other four guys will make much more money working for a cut of the Hull Ds profit than flying alone in 4 auroras.

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Haha. Last minute re-thinking of this whole land-grab grab deal?

C'mon. Lemme manifest my destiny up in this shit already.

They knew that we knew that they were about to try to sell us in game land for real money and the reaction even on reddit, from known cultists was negative. now they're deciding whether to commit and poison the current happy well, or delay/deflect/cancel the land/cash grab until later to not light their last patch of goodwill on fire.

Being crew on a big ship is actually the main draw of SC for me. I find solo play in MMO games incredibly boring. I'd especially like to be a Javelin's dropship pilot or one of the boarding party marines, but even mundane stuff like crew on a Reclaimer could be a lot of fun if you've got a good group to play with.

there's enough land on these planets that staking a claim with in game currency should be enough

youtube.com/watch?v=6MYAGyZlBY0

its more that the idea of selling pieces of the game world to individuals for $$$ is objectionable and also the fact that aside from being labeled as yours they'd be selling you literally nothing for money, the land will be there either way, your paying them to tag a finite resource in game for you for cash, thats sketchy as hell and also abuse-able as hell.

you seem to feel you are under attack by people posing questions
why is this?

Or they already decided and are tyring to hasitly edit the video to remove it and add in something for the "classified" entry on the sale page.

>its more that the idea of selling pieces of the game world to individuals for $$$ is objectionable and also the fact that aside from being labeled as yours they'd be selling you literally nothing for money
>they'd be selling you literally nothing for money
take a second and think about what you just said about a game that sells you .jpgs 4 times a year and has been promising a game for 5 years. This would be nothing new.

The real issue with selling land claims for real money is that it's a finite quantity. I know, planets are absolutely enormous, but hear me out.

Selling ships for real money to fund development sucks. But, most people invested in the game understand it as a necessary evil. CIG's gotta make money if they're going to fund development, and game packages simply won't cut it. You can argue that they charge to much, or that they go to far, and you might be right, but that's neither here nor there. The basic premise of selling ships for real money, is generally deemed acceptable, though not ideal. Most people also accept it because the game doesn't (or at least, isn't planned to) have vertical progression, with only a few exceptions. Someone buying a Reclaimer or Merchantman isn't necessarily "beating" you. Even fighters will have a good deal of balance when fuel and range becomes more of a concern. Basically, ships aren't finite and it really doesn't make a difference for you if other people have bigger ships. At worst, they're getting a headstart, but it's not really a permanent advantage.

But land? Sure, moons are huge, planets are huger, so land is technically finite, but functionally unlimited. What *isn't* functionally unlimited is desirable land. Most people don't give a shit about a plot of land in some random-ass crater on some barren moon. What they do care about is prime real estate. Land closest to important population centers, or in desirable geographical locations, or close to other people. That's definitely a finite resource, and allowing people to buy that kind of finite resource with real money before you can actually buy it with in-game currency is completely fucked up.

Of course most people already know that selling land claims *feels* wrong, even if they can't articulate it. Even reddit is speaking out against it. If CIG tries to do this, they've fucked up.

That image is fucking retarded, whats the point of the green inner circle.

without it the red piece could shift and go out of alignment

in

why even have that half moon shape present on top of the green gear? The only thing that is even needed is the base and the peg.

I'm explaining to a solo player that perspectives other than his own exist. From the perspective of someone who also plays alone, for his own interests without co-operative interection the idea of being attached at the hip to other players can seem like lunacy, and if from his position, I was attached at the hip to random other people who I didn't know, I would agree. I nearly always turn down random squad invites, or group invite in WoW or w/e, but you turn them down because of who is inviting, not becasue grouping and co-op play is a bad idea, quite the opposite, 5 mans operating together, communicating and filling specialist roles will nearly always kick the ass of 5 generalists operating independently in the same area. I'm saying that the solo player often lacks contacts that he knows to be reliable, skilled and trustworthy, because you don't connect with people playing solo, and that lack of contacts skews his perspective on the value of group play. He has not experienced the reality of "Teamwork OP" because he never has a team, at best he has allies in proximity without coordination, which often interferes with his plan as a solo player, retards running around raising the alertness of enemies when you're trying to be sneaky is a bad thing, but teammates creating a diversion on the other side of the fight so you can slip in is great.

>ay jee us

keeps the red star from moving while the peg enters and leaves the slot

holding the red part in place.

The likeness to Admiral Bishop is uncanny, did you draw that?

red piece would have free range of motion without being blocked by the green piece, which keeps it from rotating until the peg feeds into the notch.

Stop pretending to be an engineer.

If I was to guess they might have decided to have a specific planet or moon in one of the Star Systems that the UEE was selling plots to on a limited basis.
Thinking it'd be like the old reanactment of the Land Run of 1893 in America in what would become Oklahoma. Maybe had a section of the website you had to buy a beacon and then place it on map to claim that area as yours and you'll not know what it contained till you could get ingame and scan it.
Almost like a lootbox ...

I'd love to think that someone finally told sandi and ben no. That has needed to happen for a literal year.

Also where the shit is Erin, we havent seen him in ages.

If a mechanism like that were working under load it would keep the red piece from slipping back

>But land? Sure, moons are huge, planets are huger, so land is technically finite
in the real wold, sure, but this is a video game where they can make as many planets and moons as they want

>30 minutes later
XD

Okay now read the rest of the sentence instead of intentionally being retarded and trying to stir shit.

what's the point of 10 million ships when the combat sucks? looks like people just fly in circles and try to drag their mouse on the target for hours

i remember my first Star Citizen livestream, boy you missed some good ones

>under load

retard

Thankyou

>Also where the shit is Erin, we havent seen him in ages.
Making the game and he's been in a couple of recent Burndowns.
But he is primarily responsible for SQ42 and that is meant to be being shown off in the Holiday livestream next month so he is probably polishing the Vertical Slice with the blood and raw fingers of all his programmers and animators.

the moons are way too bright in this game desu

I've been around for most if not all.
I still can't get over the fact that some shit tier broke ass companies from fucking Vancouver can do better.

and only some fo them will matter and only some of the space on those will be valuable.

A major org might buy up all the land surrounding a major settlement on a important trade route. locking others out from benefiting by setting up shop in proximity to the trade hub. There will only be small number of central trade location in game as there always is in an MMO and owning land in proximity to them is something that should be earned in game not bought for cash.

Selling ships is selling the tools to make success in game, selling pieces of the finite world is selling success.

They've probably had these videos done for at least a week. It's not a like a normal AtV where they waited until the last minute to edit it together.

They're probably frantically re-editing it to remove the part where they sell land claims.

busy trying to make a game while his useless brother and sister-in-law keep feeding dumb ideas and virtual ships to the masses for money with their pet fatass busting anyone who doesn't fall in line

we don't deserve him

But that's the best part. I really hope that's what they're doing, but goddamn, they're out of time to salvage that.

.... at least he doesn't seem to suffer too much on that picture =I

WEW, did they actually remove the picture? Holy shit.

Erin is the hero we deserve

whats the point of shooters you just run around and point guns at people then click.

whats the point of half life 2? you just lift things and drop them on stuff to move stuff around.

whats the point of different classes in wow? you just target people then press buttons to make your character cast spells.

what the point of oversimplifying a third person observation of stream footage from a position of complete ignorance and lack of context? you just look like a moron trying to stir shit up without actually having any valid criticism or knowledge of the topic at hand.

Holy shit. Goddamn Ben and Sandi would introduce loot boxes if they could.

The hero we DO NOT deserve, but the hero we need

There's a finite amount of moons and planets they can add near the shit people actually care about. There's also the concern about these claims being used in for griefing. I mean players setting up temporay blockades around a jump point that you can clear out with enough effort is one thing, but players flatout owning all the land near those JPs and setting up perminant bases to stage blockades from and you can't do shit to run them out because the fuckers spent hundreds to buy the plots from CIG all the way back is another.