/ddg/ - Dragon's Dogma General

Dragon's Dogma General Edition

Previous link in the endless chain: >Tips for new players
You can change vocations at level 10 at the Gran Soren inn or BBI.
Character appearance can be changed later on.
Don't miss your sidequests: dragonsdogma.wikia.com/wiki/Side_Quest_Progression
Further info on "Must Do" sidequests: docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1qS9A47duONEwozGu8A6_oX_HyCxgBwbquGmlZqEQqqg/edit?usp=sharing
Understanding the romance system: dragonsdogma.wikia.com/wiki/Beloved
Hard Mode doesn't change enemy AI, it adds higher Stagger/ Knockdown resistances and increases Stamina consumption and Health damage recieved. More info about it in the wiki. Recommended for NG+

>Wiki you lazy shit
dragonsdogma.wikia.com/wiki/Dragon's_Dogma_Wiki

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>/ddg/ Pawn Sheet
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/156IeHCRWMcCTU4nkIIwGgjVBetjVu47C9TvAlAc5HUY/edit?usp=sharing

>Stat Growths
dragonsdogma.wikia.com/wiki/Stat_Growths

>RC Calculator
opsc.dark-arisen.com/calculator.php?cmd=calculate

>In-depth Beginner/Advanced Player Guide and FAQ
docs.google.com/document/d/17Avxu-W6BCjDrglXtHg8Z3sKB_z_5tlWhV1Vmf_YWHw
gamefaqs.com/boards/626514-dragons-dogma/74291952

>Character Creator Sliders
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QfNzxImmAvPk0jUhfKdyjxwUBg8OUl9iQhLMBL_pEl8/edit?usp=sharing

>Mods available
pastebin.com/jcbPgLdj
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piratepad.net/ep/pad/view/ro.uXOgwZkXAy5/latest

>Hotkey Script for PC Players
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>Modding on console and old pawns
pastebin.com/NMTBXnxA

>Guide to get DDO
pastebin.com/mx95PT0w
reddit.com/r/dragonsdogmaonline/

>DDO Beginners Guide
pastebin.com/xgzbcXNg
pastebin.com/338KVa5X

>Screenshot Guide
pastebin.com/6YtfNbcb

>Make webms
pastebin.com/4ipnGRND

>Aught
AUGHT
anyway /ddg/, bit of a lore question: is it ever stated how pawns are actually made? Do arisens actually create them when they touch a riftstone for the first time, or did they already exist beforehand and were just called by the arisen? How does that work?

As far as I can tell, every pawn is Arisen-made. There are, after all, infinite parallel worlds. Pawns can travel as they see fit between the rift, so the pawns we see are Arisen's pawns from other worlds, just sort of on walkabout. The way I see it, they'll flock to any Arisen who needs assistance, and probably stick around in the same world for a long time waiting for an Arisen to show up. Keep in mind that our main pawn can travel and help in other worlds as they are helping us, so some spatial/temporal fuckery may be afoot too. Then again, pawns aren't human, and rift weirdness may account for bi-location.

Your waifu/husbanfu becomes real. The pawns exist in the rift. The rift is inbetween world's. Basically we create them but the Arisen calls them and chooses them.

Like if somebody selected out of our planet of 8 billion a lot of variations for their perfect desire. The main pawn is their ideal.

So it's not like canonically you goto into a creation menu it's more mental like your choice is already made and the product u get you are happy with.

So if I let Aelinore die during her escort quest, there's no possible way for her to be my beloved, right?

Also, how do I get my pawn to use the shield springboard? He's never done it once, despite the skill being equipped.

I'm getting conflicting information here. Do pawns exist before their arisen first calls/summons them, or not? If so, how are they actually made then?

Second user could very well be right. You get sent out a bespoke pawn based on your desires for a companion. Or it could just be a case of DUDE, LORE and it's never quite fully elaborated upon.

The real fucking problem is a female pawn becoming a male arisen and vice versa

That's just magic, user

I thought that was just a poorly explained extension of the "your pawn becomes more like you as time goes on" taken to the extreme upon the arisen's death.
It is rather poorly explained though, because as we can kinda see and there is some evidence for pawns slowly becoming more "human" acting as they spend more time around the same humans there doesn't seem to be any evidence for physical shifts. Either that or the physical shifts somehow happen quite suddenly after the arisen's death in which case fuck idunno. Maybe their "soul" or whatever pawns have is simply transplanted into the arisen's body? That doesn't make much sense, but then neither do any of the other options.

>Not wanting your waifu to futa your beloved waifu
I see nothing wrong here

>there doesn't seem to be any evidence for physical shifts
The Fool looks a lot like the Dragonforged, only younger. Same for Selene and grandma not-Flora

>The fool
I never really noticed any resemblance with him, although I suppose I could be remembering wrong.
>Selene
Her arisen is dead though (or I have I completely missed something here?) and we only see her afterwards, thus she wouldn't be evidence of a gradual shift.

I've always wondered as to what happens to your pawn's physical body then this happens. Does their previous existence just disappear?

Has anyone ever had a pawn that picked up an unconscious pawn and dropped them off a cliff? It wasn't even near me and they picked them up, walked directly over to the cliff, and dropped them off.

It looked deliberate

Sounds like the pawn was either jealous or tired of picking up their slack.
I haven't had a pawn do that before, but I had had a pawn pick up a smaller enemy that I tossed them and then proceed to jump off a cliff with it, which I suppose was successful in killing the goblin but wasn't the result that I had intended.

you really got to treat your pawn better

>I had had a pawn pick up a smaller enemy that I tossed them and then proceed to jump off a cliff with it
Rook did this with me in the witchwood, he survived. Gotta question a pawn's logic there.

Do any of those actually look decent, or are they just there for unknown reasons?
or are you trying to imply that my pawn is committing suicide because I don't give him enough expensive jewelry? Because fuck knows I've spent enough RC gold-forging his equipment so I don't think that's the issue unless pawns have the ability to be more materialistic than I'm giving them credit for.

He's gonna get me!

How much RC can you really spend on goldforging, though? I didn't think it cost very much?

I've got the premium earring on Big C and it looks fuckin dope. It's like a shining pimp earring.

really i was going to make a different kind of post, but i decided against it and forgot to remove the picture

Purifying and gold forging a single piece of lv.2 equipment can get pretty costly user, and when you're talking about gold forging every single thing in every slot then the cost can easily break 100k before you know it. If you feel like forging multiple outfits and/or weapons for fashion's dogma purposes this number grows even more. this is even more effort too because I almost never play online so no help from hires.

What other kind of a post could you possibly make with that image though?

>trying to get Warrior to rank 9 for clout
Literally cruel and unusual punishment.

>What other kind of a post could you possibly make with that image though?
a bad one. just be happy i didnt make that post, and the picture worked out in the end.

>Be happy I didn't make that post
Anything is better than dead user. Perhaps you aught not make that post, but aughtism is preferable to death.

>2017th cycle
>he still slaughters a million cows and guardsmen to level up vocations
just get the dinput8 mod my negro
disregard this if it's your first or second playthrough

I'm on PS4, no mods for me

dont worry. i'll come up with something when the time comes.

if i've leveled purely as a strider so far, should i swap out my scalding razors for snagdaggers? haven't really figured out how damage is calculated in this game, the snag daggers bring me up to 279str from 250, but drop magick from 358 to 151

I think he's just trying to say he doesn't like warrior.

Well fuck, how much does it cost to goldforge? Maybe I'm thinking of silverforge costs because I just recently did a bunch

any good place to farm lowbie enemies to get discipline points in the first playthrough?

Cattle
If you have guts, go to the last dungeon entrance, forgot the name, and farm a wraith at night.
At night, it summons skeles to kill.
Just dont kill the wraith

Have you fought the Dragon yet?

It depends on the item, but for a lv.2 item silver typically costs a few k under 10 and gold a few k over, so you're averaging 20k per item not including the purification cost. Lv. 3 items are more, obviously, and lower tier items are less, but when you've got multiple outfits for fashion's sake even the lower tiers add up.

No, I just killed the golem in front of selene's cabin. I feel like I'm seriously lacking on DP though, I cant even buy most of the upgrades for my class, much less try out other classes.

Oxen, Postgame guards, Devilfire Grove (that place is full of those fucking goblins).

Are you gifting something nice to your pawn /ddg/?

I Goldforged her underwear for her, what more could she need?

>No response when given the arisen's bond to hold
I fucking tried but apparently there's no appreciation.
I was god and I killed myself to get that ring (because I was a dumbass that missed both the quests to get it the first time through) and apparently I get no appreciation or even recognition for my efforts.

>Not gold-forging a separate outfit for every day of the week
How would gold-forging underwear even feel though? Would it be any more comfortable than normal underwear?

I imagine the Goldforge process would be like washing it with fabric softener. Gradually makes the underwear more comfy and soft.

I think when the armour is goldforged, you don't even feel it anymore.

Pre-dragon, the best low-xp dcp farm is the oxen just south of Gran Soren. Plonk a portcrystal down just next to one of them, go to town, and ferrystone to that portcrystal. Oxen are base 30 xp, and with two rings of perseverance, you can get 24 dcp each. There's also a high drop rate on beast steaks, which degrade into sour beast steaks, which with 4x suasion comes out to 2623 gold apiece for a decent pre-dragon money farm, too.

Post-dragon, the easiest DCP farm is probably the noble quarter in Gran Soren. You can stay on a wall out of harm's way and walk away from your computer/console while your pawns kill endlessly spawning 100-xp guards.

How much DCP do Elder Ogres give?

So whats your approach in regards to optimally purifying a large amount of items all at once?

can I even get RoPs at level 28? isnt that a bitterblack island thing?

You can get it without fighting anything.
>Run past everything
>Grab the key from the Midnight Helix
>Open the gated door in Duskmoon
>Run to the Warrior's Respite or whatever it's called
>Grab the Moonbeam Gem
>Open the Ring's door back in Duskmoon

I guess I'll look up a youtube video for how to do it then. This is my first DA playthrough, I haven't played this game since launch so you're speaking another language desu. thanks for the info though.

Yes. You don't need them, but wearing two will double your DCP. There are guides to getting them early on YouTube, and you can actually start by level 2 or 3, though you'll probably get one shot a few times, so if you want to try, save often.

>I guess I'll look up a youtube video for how to do it then
have fun lol

It's easier than I'm making it sound, you just have to be careful of the enemies there.

I think things over 1000 base xp give less than 7% of their base xp as dcp, with diminishing returns as the base xp increases. It'll be a lot since elder ogres give so much xp, but that's getting more into just high xp farming.

just grab Big C as a pawn and you'll be fine

>not having twin Arisen and pawn
It makes it that much easier when your pawn takes over your body

Good luck getting past the heat-seeking Gargoyle

why would the slutty one cover her face? it should be the reverse

Is this a /ddg/ meme, I keep seeing people here talking about big c but I don't see a pawn with that name in the google doc

I think the angry aughtist deleted him out of there, he was in there for a long time. He's a great pawn but the guy plays on xbone

Oh, I'm on ps4. What makes/made him so special?

maybe she doesnt want everyone to know she's a slut

he was just one of the better pawns back on 360 for a long time, but there's an aughtist on here that flips whenever he is brought up so now people shill him as a joke I think. I never used him

why'd she reach for that shirt this morning then?

There is absolutely nothing slutty about exposed navels and midriffs.

Sad.

I think this is one of the only generals where I can say with absolute confidence it's just one guy.

Maybe it just goes back to the rift. Or something.

I used him back in the day, I think having close to max possible strength made him an attractive pawn for some but he was a warrior and I ended up hating warrior pawns because the AI is just so bad

Meant to quote this post

how do i get my pawn to cast maelstrom more often?

Remove other spells :^)

yeah now how about some GOOD advice :/

I'm in the mood to try playing a glass cannon sorcerer build for the first time, and I have questions.
1. What vocation should my pawn be?
2. What are some must-have abilities and augments?

There's not a lot of ways to get your pawn to focus on a specific spell. They only tend to focus on whatever element they have that they know an enemy is weak to. You can get them to copy you with spell syncing, but otherwise, it's pretty much out of your hands.

Emphasis + Comestion

Your pawn should probably be a fighter, but give them Challenger so that they don't fight neat you, you want a Big C type that will aggro groups and keep the heat off of you so you can stand back and cast long cast time spells. Keep Emphasis for the entire game, get the stamina consumption augment, the two magic boosting augments (one from mage one from sorc) and also the cast time augment. You really don't have room to play around as a Sorc

Thanks.

Articulacy, Inflection, Attunement, Acuity, and Sinew. Perpetuation's not bad to make holy pact last forever, Emphasis is okay if you want to use comestion/ingle for knockdown.

I feel like I'm missing an important one, but I'm away from my console right now.

You probably want a sorc pawn for spell syncing, though really you can go for anything. Pawns are decent momentary distractions, but terrible at long-term tanking, and all vocations have roughly equal distraction value.

Derp, it was conservation, that's the one I forgot. Yeah, you need that for stamina. For your sixth slot, it's really between Sinew, Perpetuation, and Emphasis. I prefer Sinew so you don't get bogged down as quickly with loot, since the heavier you are, the more stamina your skills cost and the longer it takes to recover stamina.

I'm an assassin and my main pawn is a warrior. What pawns should I go for with supports for magic, a mage or sorcerer?

Two Sorcerers for maximum magick, although Mages aren't useless thanks to being limited to the quicker casting spells.
It's tough to solely rely on Pawns for Magick though, they're fairly unreliable.

>It's tough to solely rely on Pawns for Magick though, they're fairly unreliable.
Oh darn. I like my pawn as a warrior, and I'm having too much fun as an assassin to switch out. I'll try my luck with looking for good sorcerers then. Thanks. I'm going into BBI for the first time soon, so I want backup.

Just got the game a few days ago, getting my ass kicked because i'm constantly wandering into areas with much stronger enemies than I, is there some sort of map that shows what the average level of enemies are in each area?

not really, like big monsters like chimerias avoid those for now, or run from them, and if you see something new, let your pawns have a go at them, if they get 1 shot, kite then away, pick em up and then fuck off, trying doing quests in the fishing village to level up, along with the encampment

There's a map that shows the rough locations of the bigger pre-dragon spawns out there on google somewhere, I've seen it. That said, the early game us really about exploring, feeling out what's tough, and pushing yourself to beat it. You will outlevel/outgear everything you're having trouble with now soon enough, but figuring out patterns and how to fight more effectively will prepare you for bigger challenges down the road.

That said, depending on what kind of equipment/level you're working with right now, there may well be stuff that's just out of your league for the moment, so part of that experimentation is also to find out when you should run.

That's pretty much what i've been doing, i'm around lv25 and got BTFO by the trolls in the quarry, probably not gonna finish that quest for a while

>the early game us really about exploring, feeling out what's tough, and pushing yourself to beat it
this is so different than any open world rpg i've played, where everything sorta just scales to you, I guess that's why this game isn't very popular with normal folk

If you need help, dont hesitate to ask for pawns!
I'll shill mine if you on PS4

>offline mode
>go up to pawn
>pawn says "I fear we cannot join into a covenant"
>another just tells me to "seek out the rift, Arisen"
>no other dialogue options available
Did online pawns sneak into the offline game?

This might be a stupid question, but do you have your main pawn with you? You can't hire pawns of any kind if your main pawn is forfeit or you haven't gotten him/her yet.

I just fought an archydra with pre-BBI gear for the first time. His breath attack could one shot me.

That was so much fun.

>tfw no BBI-hydra

...

what's he aiming at?

A bird nest.

>he
That hurts, user.

If an Arisen defeats the Seneschal and takes its place, how does the cycle keep going?
The game seems to imply that each new dragon is a failed Arisen, so if there's only one Arisen at a time and he becomes the Seneschal, how does he get an Arisen to turn into the next dragon if he needs a dragon to create an Arisen in the first place?

Warriors Suck.

'tis still too early to admit defeat, /ddg/.

We've only just begun, Master!

It implies there are a shitload of arisens at any point in time.

My pawn(sorcerer) still keeps turning into scather even after I change her inclinations with elixirs to utilitarian/challenger/mitigator,pls help