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.where are the hot pictures of tyrande?

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Xul is pretty crazy in the brawl if you go W build. Grim Scythe + Rapid Harvest and their numbers only mean you never stop swinging at sonic speeds. He's weaker in the Swarm Host fight though since there's less fodder to feed his attack speed.

...

>not wanting reinhardt
cmon

I wouldn't mind Reinhardt. How would his shield work though?

might be like a yasuo thing in league of autists

if that's the case he'd be annoying as fuck

would mobility shutdown heroes add to the game and make the overwatch gapcloser creep better or just make a new, more annoying meta take place?

Moblilty punishing abilities hurt immobile heroes more than mobile ones so no.

There's hardly anything more annoying than the mobility creep.

Adding a cripple effect that disables movement abilities might work.

well i'm not talking about slows, more like somebody who punishes heroes with large gapclosers via distance travelled damage or a more reliable single target silencer

>another
But we don't even have an Overwatch tank in the game
>mobility creep
No such thing

>squishy immobile hero gets hit with rupture
>move a little
>still basically dies AND is immobile
Shit design ability no counter play

D.va is really good at mitigating damage with defense matrix. Diverting Power + Aggression Matrix means the enemy never deals any damage. Ablative Armor, while can make her near impossible to kill for certain heroes like Tracer.

Still not a tank, she is a brusier.

it's because every single overwatch 'tank' is actually just a dps with a larger health bar except reinhardt and maybe orisa, but orisa isn't a bruiser only because her damage output is fucking terrible and not because she has more tanky abilities

>we'll never get roadhog in the game because stitches already exists
thank christ

I don't want to play against a hero that can press a button to heal 40% of his health bar at any time in a moba

winston is the hero we need

the only way to counter shit from a cancer game is to use shit from a cancer game

Imperius when? Itherael when?

>He doesn't know

Oh you poor sweet child.

I mean stitches has a button that basically does that

dva's defense matrix works like that in overwatch doesn't it
and in hots it's just an area damage reduction thing

so maybe it's a coding thing and they can't have yasuos w
hopefully

big fat jaina titties

yasuo actually deletes all incoming projectiles by spawning a wall, not reduces their damage

I hope his kit is never put into this game. Despite its short cd its way too powerful for what it does. It doesn't help he could be brain dead and still effectively use his ult due to his team carrying him.

yeah I know
d.va's defensive matrix in overwatch works similarly to yasuo's w
but in hots it's just an area damage reduction or whatever

so might be a coding/engine thing and we can't get his W
and reinhardt's shield will just reduce the damage taken like a reverse dva w

it's on the launcher again

What is?

APPOLOGIZE

>bullying Oddish and Faye
noo

>na hl

>Removable by Cleanse

Oh would you look at that.

Every time it streams. Didn't it say it was gonna quit over the voice thing? Why is Blizzard still shilling for it? I've seen them advertise Trikslyr before and he's streaming now too with more viewers. Hell, Cris is top streamer right now and he's a pro so he's already on Blizzard's payroll, should just shill for him instead.

why is every illidan player so fucking awful AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Because they play like Butcher running into die.

>only 4 heroes still have that ability
SHIT
ABILITY
NO
COUNTER
PLAY

because hes on his free rotation

I don't play dota so I don't know if rupture is actually a cancerous bullshit ability but wouldn't this be solved just by tweaking the scaling? make it so if they're just walking away it doesn't do much at all but if its somebody like genji who can dash twice and jump over walls it punishes them way more

>brawl
>Illidan sweeps into a group of banes
>die

Maybe if they could lock out certain skills. Hard counter certain heroes. Imagine a Tracer with a locked dash. Your computer would heat up from all the rage being sent through the net.

Like Yasuo or Braum from League

>Turn on stream for shits and giggles
>mis-gendering and non-binary and agender and a bunch of other buzzwords said within 20 seconds
>"why does gender matter" when he's literally talking about nothing else
>Faggots getting banned for asking completely bland inoffensive questions
>Complaining about harassment because I assume some of you faggots are in the chat
And now its talking about preaching about some cult shit or something. Trannies were a mistake.

It's a stupid ability that forces you to stand and deliver or use some item (which HotS doesn't have) to save yourself before bloodcyka eats you in a few hits.

Just won't work in the game, what you want is something like taunt or a targeted silenced with a cast time. In a game where Garrosh, Stukov, and other massive displacement moves exist you can't really make a Rupture work.

>tfw 2 stimpacks in a row from chests and play 8 games quest

put a bullet in my head

Anyone know if there's a game out there that is basically this week's brawl?

Why is this week's brawl so good?

diablo?

The definition of madness

Maybe you shoulda tried being a healer?

>Be last pick in HL
>hover over diablo since i was able to
>alt tab and wait for my turn to pick
>no one picked a support
>pick diablo anyway
>they get all butthurt because i was supposed to pick support
>tell them last pick doesnt always mean support pick, if they wanted one they should have picked it
Plat is suffering

You realize Zarya is basically autocarry in the brawl, right?

Wouldn't that be Xul?

eh...no thanks

>Zarya has shield so she can save her team
>Everyone gets in melee range and Zarya destroys character in melee range at max energy
>You will always be at max energy in this brawl

That would be johanna if you ask me.

why is it that every time i open up the client to launch this game blizzard is trying to push this disgusting tranny and his stream on me?

>Illidan gets vision at stage 2 near the checkpoint
>uses ult on zerg
>dies
>t-team??

>In dev video has the Hanamura loading screen music for the Hanzo showcase
>One of the new sprays is a Hanamura snowglobe
>Blizzcon showed that they tested Hanzo on Hanamura

The dreaded map is coming back to non-custom games soon isn't it?

I like the map just so i can ride faster with Malthael

>play junkrat
>lose
how do i

everyone agrees the utility offered by the mine build is better but i prefer going q build and just sitting back doing a million poke dmg all game

They said the map will play completely differently to its original incarnation. Its gonna just have the same aesthetic, I assume the objective is gonna have changed completely

But i didn't ask you, you fucking retard nigger. She's absolute trash.

Sonya, Zarya, Lucio, Li Li and Varian/Kharazim for Singletarget, that easy lads. Just speak up and tell people to stop picking garbage, worked with ease every time they listened.

So, who do you think will be the next Overwatch Hero?

I think it might be Bastion, Torbjorn. Sombra or Winston.

I also think that Roadhog will only appear as a skin sadly, unless they place two hooker in the game.

When does this event start?

Winston or Reinhardt.

>Sonya wont stop bitching and barking orders at team, even when we've recovered so hard from the rocky start that we're 5man wiping the enemy team consecutively

>The Zeratul and Tassadar start teaming up on her and sticking up for each other
>"Well said my fellow protoss"
>"It is my pleasure my oracle"

>Sonya goes silent for the rest of the game

>brawl boss finally down to 1/5th health
>we gonna make it
>jajajajaBR (Valla) has reconnected
NOOOOO
NOOO
NOOOOOO!

Reinhardt would be cool. Having a guy who focus on long AOE Melee strokes would be fun, And a giant shield.

>silenced again
Time to see if I can make Blizzard see things my way and understand that I am the true victim here.

They'll almost certainly keep the cart pushing mechanic in some form. Probably either make the paths not as retarded or just have one that both teams fight over or something, i dunno. The whole forts give extra shots will have to be changed somehow or the map is gonna play the same. Maybe just make the cart give some kind of advantage other than core hits and have a standard "push to the core to win" map with it.

I'm guessing Sombra, no real reason other than the stealth rework coming up. Symmetra or any of the shield tanks might be interesting. Doomfist will get in eventually because we obviously need more mobile Overwatch assassins in this game.

seriously? another skin for valla when others heroes only have at least 2?

Mei already has her abilities in the game.

>Tychus cone spray + slow status
>normal Q that is probably skillshot
>W Walls are already ingame
>iceblock is a common mage talent
>area stasis/stun/lockdown is already a thing for ult
She's the easiest to implement. Plus you'll have hordes of Meifags posting in /hotsg/ about how they can't pass the tutorial.

I'm coming back from Hots after a 3 week hiatus...can anyone explain to me why all supports were nerfed? Is it just because of double sup meta? Let's make all healers a little shittier so they get picked less?

Popular heroes get skin priority because money I guess. So a dozen Li-ming and Valla skins and what, two Vikings skins?

Supports have been overtuned since at least the armor patch.

Artanis is pretty braindead

>Spammable ult
>Mash W for damage
>Can talent for waveclear
>One of a handful of warriors that's exactly as tanky in this brawl as anywhere else

>why are heroes that were good at hero damage, siege damage, taking camps, enabling hyper carries, and able to make plays and heal the entire team getting nerfed?
really makes ya think

us.battle.net/heroes/en/blog/21273600/
Blizzard's statement

You just listed all the reasons she won't be added. Overlap isn't a thing they want to do.

>support
>Good hero damage
Maybe Iron fists Kharazim, but that's about it. No support has good siege damage

how many people have beaten the heroic brawl?

I've played like 25 times and for some reason with 30 seconds left on the gate the team always splits four ways. I've only had the honor of dying to the boss once.

Beat it on 3rd try.

>Lightning Bond Rehgar had the fastest camp and wave clear in the game
>Malfurion could clear waves in two moonfires
>Tassadar still deletes minions with W
>Li Li's old builds shredded minions especially on Cursed Hallow
Not saying all, but the supports hit the hardest absolutely did. They don't want supports to replace other roles in effectiveness and also be able to heal the entire team and make huge plays with CC and such. 5% is nothing, Lightning Bond and Moonburn hit them exactly where they needed to be hit because those supports were too good at waveclear.

They reduced all healing at once because it was overtuned, armor was making effective HP pools too high, removing too much risk from assassins that have no business being risky, basically deleting melee assassins from high level play, and making dual support comps the go-to best way to play for about 8 months this year.

It was bound to happen and they said when they introduced armor they'd be going back to tune supports eventually, but all attempts at subtly tuning down heroes one at a time just ended up killing them for a short time (Stukov back a few months ago in the HP nerf and reverse and others). This tuning is to address the problem heroes (Rehgar and Malfurion) who were over-performing in waveclear, and bring all supports down at once slightly as to keep their relative power to each other, while making double support and optinal but less powerful draft choice.

So far it's succeeded because no healer has died and poke and burst is coming back up in value. More tuning to come later, but for now it's working as intended.

how do i carry people in this brawl? people are too retarded to stay together

Zarya

Play rehgar.

>Lightning Bond Rehgar had the fastest camp and wave clear in the game
Maybe the fastest camp but I have my doubts about that as well, but fastest wave clear? That's a good joke lad, run it by me once more time and maybe this time I will laugh because for the love of me I cant see how Rehgar cant clear a wave faster then Probius or Leroic.
>Tassadar still deletes minions with W
Tassadar is different
>They don't want supports to replace other roles in effectiveness and also be able to heal the entire team and make huge plays with CC and such
I know but it's not their fault that the esport scene is so shit that everyone out there runs with a dual support team.

what the FUCK IST HIS

I've beaten it 4 or 5 times now.

>pick lightning bond
>drop totem
>cast lighting shield on it
>delet wave

Your experience doesn't matter because it's objective fact. If you are below Diamond these changes do not affect you in the slightest because everyone plays wrong anyway.

>hurr pros are shit
Whatever dude.

>drop a warp rift
>Probe it
>delete wave even faster
Then it's an objective fact that Rehgar was not the fastest wave clearer.

a spray ?

>be level 1
>take lightning bond
>run up to wave, drop totem
>put lightning shield on totem
>this kills the wave
on a support mind you
not a dedicated waveclearer
a level 1 support

>pros are bad so they play double support
what the

You're missing the fucking point because Probius isn't a fcuking support. He's MADE TO KILL MINIONS AND PUSH LANE, and Rehgar is meant o support the team, not solo lane, solo camp, potentially solo kill, and do a bunch of shit that assassins and specialists should be doing that DON'T double or triple the surviviability of their team as well.

>Rehgar main cry cause he can no longer 1v1 everyone in the game, one shot minion waves, one shot camps, one shot Immortal...

Hey you massive cocksuckers, Hanzo and the christmas even start this next week or what?

And that level 1 option comes at the cost of more crowd control that Colossal Totem gives you.
>what the
That's what I been able to gather from what I been reading here and watching, somehow they even managed to convince everywhere that Stitches is better then Johanna or Artanis. Heck they somehow managed to fool people into thinking that Stitches is a good character

>what the
It's the rehgar main from reddit that was crying about the nerfs and pros the day it happened. He's a retard you can just ignore him.

Either this coming Tuesday or the next.

> they somehow managed to fool people into thinking that Stitches is a good character
here's your (You)