T./gsg/ - Traditional Grand Strategy General

Has anyone made an alliance with England and actually been better off for it?

Turks are based tho

t.urk

I'd like to see a timelapse of this desu

Turks are based

>hhahah how epic i'm spamming a 5 year old meme xddd

>Be me
>Tribal African
>Go into Scholar Specialization to rush shipbuilding tech
>Discover the earth revolves around the sun
>Get 300 Prestige for publishing my works
>Use this prestige to build a Training Ground
>Germanic Fags still wont be getting their Viking Tech Welfare for half a century
By the time those brainlet vikings come around there wont be a cent left to plunder.

Why is exotic Norse migration so fucking comfy? I wish there was a mod that properly fleshed out Africa, I'd like to do one there but it's just so barebones.

Here's Arabia, for comparison since it's a new thread

DUDE... BASED NORSEMEN!!!

I've been making Norsememes for years now, when did it get popular?

I like playing the single independent Germanic Norse pagan in 1066, on the coastal border between Finland and Sweden. You're essentially lads on tour/pirates

I once saw a norman invade Delhi and then establish rajputana a generation later
I wish i had a screenie for that

Raiding in general is comfy to me, and doing it in a place that it seems like nobody can really reach is all that much better.
Being a Norse, or anyone who can raid really, lets the game be enjoyable without needing to blob out.
I do wish that Tribes could get rid of feudal holdings like Nomads can though.

Nice, coolest thing I've seen Normans do was when my cousin invaded the Pope.

What is a good start date if you want to play in India (Not necessarily as Indians, as some other glorious conqueror)? Seems like it's just blob central for most of the game

After months of hard work, the Romans finish their design of the Primis, the 3000ton Survery Craft and the first of its class. It will be finished by February 2033, at wich point it will begin exploring the Solar System.
It is expected to last around 5 years without needing to return to the shipyards on Earth, and it can carry up to 12 months of supplies, and 70k liters of fuel; So it is not expected to return for a long time.
Meanwhile the British are focusing on researching new methods to produce power, wich will be necessary if they want to arm their Spacecraft with Energy weapons.

I am STILL open for anybody who wants to give me orders

play a real game

>Son is born
>Wife dies to leprosy immediately after
Well that worked out.

Any that doesnt have a muslim blob in pakistan
Nestorians can actually infiltrate india and tibet relatively easily since their is a start date where you can become a nestorian khagan day 5 or so

When I'm playing Space Romans I name all the ship classes after ancient ship classes. Bireme, Trireme, Octareme, etc.

ummmmm lad fuck off back to >>>/civ4xg/

I've been meaning to try a Norse/Nestorian Lanka game again. Last one only ended because of all their holy orders, which got nerfed really hard.
I don't get the fucking diplomatic interaction range. Scots can marry fucking Hungarians, but Socotra is 'too far' from India

A real game like what?

And new Byzantium

ugh

I keep asking him what this meme map is and he just says it's "alt history culture map" and I honestly have no idea what he means. Can someone answer me?

who the fuck are you talking about?

>Byzantium.png
Another one for the filter

but unironically

Look at the posts in the last 10 minutes and tell me if you can figure out what I'm talking about.

>syndicalist fucking shits get btfo by mitteleuropa/entente
>reclaim britain from syndie scum
>socialist italy not only survives but loses no territory despite getting rekt
>commune of france survives as 2 tiny states in savoy/nice
>batavian commune survives as well
Why didn't the ai take their shit?

>actually filtering
fuck off alex

Alex wasn't the filterfag though

>5 different maps posted in the thread
>I am just supposed to know assume which one you are talking about
How about you use the fucking reply feature?

>literally unironically actually changes the name of liquor to beverages because he's butthurt

Anyone know a good strategy for abducting women for concubines?
I keep on raiding castles but never get any prisoners.

The maps in most paradox Games are created and modded with a color based system that will place cultures, religions, ect. onto the in-game map based on the image when a new game starts. Every province with the same color will be the same culture.

You should always assume it's the most recent.
>How about you use the fucking reply feature?
No, because then he'd think I was asking him and tell me it was a culture map again, which makes no fucking sense. Hence why I addressed the thread instead of him.

Nah you know, whatever. I'm just really fucking annoyed by byzaboos of any sort, especially at dumb posts like one above.

And beverages have became a meme too, so that didn't really work out well for t.Alex

What is the best Byzantine colony and why is it India

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Byzieboos are based and white.

this tbqh

I think you mean Venezuela

please somebody
play as one of the gps
pleeeaseee
im begging you

I'm a staunch India man myself, but I'm seriously interested at the concept. Central America, maybe? China? They did steal their silk like 1000 years ago, after all.

lewdmod I come bearing gifts

Reminder that Huey Long did nothing wrong

MICKED!

Just tell me what provinces an I'll add them.

The reason they're different colors is for culture representation, so you can ask about those as ell

De jure modern venezuela borders + trinidad and tobago

This is a culture map

of America

India

>potential = {
> owns = 1251
> NOT = { has_global_flag = >tea_monopoly_broken }
> OR = {
> AND = { year = 1850 NOT >= { has_global_flag = tea_monopoly_broken_1 >} }
> AND = {
> year = 1870
> has_global_flag = >tea_monopoly_broken_1
> NOT = { >has_global_flag = tea_monopoly_broken_2 }
> }
> AND = {
> year = 1890
> has_global_flag = >tea_monopoly_broken_2
> NOT = { >has_global_flag = tea_monopoly_broken_3 }
> }
> AND = {
> year = 1910
> has_global_flag = >tea_monopoly_broken_3
> }
> }
> }

So here it is, the thing that destroys the dye supply. It is in fact three separate decisions that gradually switch most indian RGOs to tea. Second decision also adds some fruit, iron in some province and precious goods to golkonda (why? non-tea goods should be event-based).

Any suggestions on approach to this issue? Its primary purpose (breaking chinese tea monopoly) must be preserved, but it shouldn't completely ruin world economy like it currently does. Perhaps removing the third stage and lessening the effect of second, as the first decision alone ends chinese control over tea trade?

Maybe make China itself get dye as India loses it?

Did they historically produce lots of dye? India did, dye production did not in fact decline after the tea industry was created.

It is supposed to be fixed by synthetic dye factories, but those are latecomers so AI doesn't build them that much and even then, it costs lots of coal (people complained about its shortages too).

>Victoria 2 mod
>bronie the only mod not updated in 8 years
>Not HPM, the best Mod of victoria 2.
casual and b8 thread.

anybody has any news of the HPM mod? does it update?
btw the HPM creators are amazing guys, you are best.

great falseflag t.Alex

After 3 years of intense research and hard work, the first Trans-Newtonian Roman Spacecraft has been finished, and begins it's journey the 1st of March 2033.
Only 30 minutes after it's engines are turned on, it has already traveled 1/3 of the way to the moon!
The Primis crew plans to travel to Mars, Venus and Mercury and return in 180 days. Although it is a long journey, these 43 men are the best the Federation has to offer, and they will not fail us.

Obviously the launch of this spacecraft has alarmed many nations, since as of now the Romans are the only nation with the capability to produce these ships, but all inteligence services know that the Primis is merely a research ship and the Romans do not have the technology to build warships yet.

does ANYONE want to play as russia? britain? please? you don't actually have to go through the trouble of playing the game come on

It's like the childbirthing version of the scene in the first Pirates of the Caribbean movie where Jack walks off his boat onto the wharf just before it sinks below water

well there is one thing that vic 2 never considers is that back in the old days people had between 4 - 16 childrens if there weren't too poor.

Well I don't know how possible this is but ideally there should be a "market sets out to accomodate dye shortage" flag that occurs when Britain do this, reducing the required coal and time to build synthetic dye factories.

Speaking of which, Planned economy and Laissez faire should get a bonus to factory construction time (Representingtotal uninterrupted state control and lack of regulations respectively) and Interventionalism should have a malus to it, representing the government bureaucracy of commisssioning and sanctioning these factories.

Unsure about state capitalism, as in states were it was utilized it tended to be a very efficient production model.

Civ4x told you they wanted you to psot it there. You're unironically shitposting at this point.
>Aurora is posted regularly here

But I've never posted on civ4x they didn't tell me shit
Also i'm not shitposting, i'm not even posting that much either.

>
>>Aurora is posted regularly here

FUCK HPM THE ACW IS SO FUCKING BROKEN THIS EVENT HAS POPPED UP 6 TIMES AND I GET PENALIZED 2 INFAMY EVERY FUCKING TIME! FIX YOUR FUCKING SHIT. I now completely believe the Anti HPM shitposters and this was my first run of the newest update.

Organize any colonies yet?

>that CSA
What the fuck are you doing?

imagine being this mad that someone is posting a game

lmao wait till you reach end game and the world runs out of iron and coal

lmao wait until you try to gas the niggers and it only kills 10%

I'm not mad I just think it's weird and I was using feigned anger to express my curiosity.

giga slavery state
Liberia since it's not 1870 yet
kill me now

>I now completely believe the Anti HPM shitposters and this was my first run of the newest update.
Why would you even install it when everyone told you he fucked his own mod?

After completing it's survey of the Moon, the Primis finds a massive deposit of Neutronium, over 17 times that of the Earth, and many other minerals. This extremely valuable information will be very useful for the Roman Federation, if it can be protected of course.
The Primis meanwhile, leaves for Mars, and with that it disappears from the sensors of all the other powers as it is a small ship, causing some uncertainty among the leaders of the world.
Will the Primis find more mineral wealth or was this one extremely lucky find?
I also rolled for the other countries to see if they could hack the data being sent back or something but they didn't. Though I think I will keep doing it so they don't fall that far behind.

>giga slavery state
b-but you're the USA...
>Liberia since it's not 1870 yet
Are you fucking serious? I thought it was 1850 when you could organize them.

>that shit decision removes about 75% indian dye rgos and replaces them with useless tea and tropical wood
>adds whooping two iron rgos

maybe I should completely scrap it

I've been on /gsg/ for many years and seen plenty of mods rise and fall and usually its the shitposters falsely sowing discontent but you guys have finally convinced me.
Revolution & Counter Revolution lets you organize :(

Look at it this way - historically, if growing tea lead to utter fucking economic failure, they'd not have switched to wide scale tea production

You should be using 0.3.7 as a base, not anything after that.

Vickymod fell due to him posting it on reddit. Robmod fell due to being a MP steamcord mod, none were felled unfairly.

That must be one of the many brilliant historical™ changes made in the last few versions. I distinctly remember organizing a colony to play in the 1850s before.

So what's with your tiny USA? Did HPM fuck up yet again? I thought the Free States of America were supposed to secede from the player in that scenario.

That is THE problem melad, it completely destroys world economy in V2 whilst in reality it didn't.

Nah, alex added lots of good stuff since 0.3.7, I just fixed retarded genocide and nigger cultures, and now solving the RGO problem.

Yeah, but what I mean to say is, it's not a problem as such to remove it or at least cut it way down

Maybe add a new invention that reduces the dye needed for shit? I'm sure there was something in real life that made dye use more efficient.
*googles history of dye*

Are you going to fix the accepted cultures in the Caribbean that he fucked up?

I'm not sure that is possible to change by decisions. I'll probably look into it yet I can't promise it will be a success.

Exactly what? Could you describe the problem thoroughly?

I am thinking of removing lines that change rgos that are dye by default, leaving others intact (as it mostly affects useless shit like grain, cattle and fish).

By the way, a bit back someone had the idea of making a mod redditproof by giving it some kind of provocative name. If you deliver, do you have anything in mind?

I made every state have a CSA core and I finally won the ACW and it only sphered the CSA so I just rage quit for the first time in Vicky 2

Call it FUCK Meneth and FUCK redditpeople.

Raise the required unemployment level. 1890 also seems a little too early, the AI hasn't built up a sufficient synthetic dye industry yet.