ancient greek texts were imported to europe from kebabistan during the enlightenment cos the church banned/burned their copies since they were scared of competing pederasts stealing their thunder. do you even history?
Henry Ramirez
>Carter praise
Christopher Roberts
>Christianity emerged before Judaism and Abraham, Moses and everyone before Jesus were actually Christians >linear causality is to this day the most advanced model of reality and totally not useless in a world filled with complexity >Christianity spontaneously emerged out of literal nothing and wasn't influenced at all by themes from Judaism, Zoroastrianism, Greek philosophy, and before that, the same thing applies to the Old Testament, which wasn't influenced at all by the polytheisms of Egypt, Ugarit, Mesopotamia and Canaan
Christian zealots truly are a hilarious bunch
Ryder Perez
>America is a melting pot
Jaxson Bennett
>Germany didnt cause WW1
Austin Cooper
>the Crusades were a defensive war fought by the Christians against Muslim aggression
Nolan Gutierrez
>literally all of Africa is Mad Max tier >Modern Japan doesn't have freedom of speech >The Rape of Belgium didn't happen >The Rape of Nanking didn't happen
All I can remember atm
Sebastian Martinez
>Jews didn't deserve the BLACKED anal bombardment they received by the Romans
Logan Walker
Expressed by the same people who think the viking raids were unprovoked by the Catholic side.
Nicholas Reed
>Christianity is just Marxism in a different form
>Muslims only managed to conquer the Persians & Byzantines because they were both exhausted thanks to a previous war
>The Soviets could have won without the allies
Owen Young
They didn't tho. Unless there's some documentation that Germany funded and ordered Princip that I'm unaware of.
Christian White
Princip started a Balkans conflict Germany made it a world war
Nicholas Lewis
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Austin Wilson
>the american civil war was fought solely because of slavery >socialism has never being tried >the soviet union won ww2
Jackson Scott
Actually it was caused by Russia intervening.
See how mental gymnastics can make literally anything the cause?
Samuel Hernandez
>ancient greek texts were imported to europe from kebabistan during the enlightenment
what the fuck am I reading
Nicholas Anderson
What about it? After the chimpout known as Christianity, a lot of greek text found a home in the middle east before being imported back into Europe at a later date.
Ian Morgan
>Europeans reached Sardinia before the Renaissance
Jason Moore
dont remember the exact post but there was this one retard who compared entire destruction of the aztec libraries by the spaniard to muslim libraries full of korans being burned by US solders
Kevin Allen
Aztecs had libraries?
Blake Rodriguez
A new information that is against your viewpoint, or ideology.
Aaron Phillips
In a small sense, some of them were. But definitely not to the dindu nuffin extent I see many claim.
Gavin Phillips
Does anyone have a screen cap of that poster who thought it was impossible to boat to Sicily until the Middle Ages?
Jace Harris
Kek .
So apparently the Arabs conquered it using helicopters?
Jacob Miller
>>Muslims only managed to conquer the Persians & Byzantines because they were both exhausted thanks to a previous war Argue this point
Ryder Reed
>Holy >Roman >Empire
Eli Green
That home would be Konstantinople and they would be brought back into the west when people fled from the chimpout known as the Ottomans.
Ian Hernandez
sophistic untrue speculation from athiest spergs like>>who can't read latin
Cameron Rogers
Are we talking 1v1 Germany Vs Soviets? If thats the case no they can't but if you mean no major Allies but everything else happens the same the USSR still wins. Its probably a more drawn out affair but it is the same by the time of D Day the USSR had basically pushing Germnay out of Russia and was ready for an overpowering offensive.
Jack Richardson
I once read here something about a golden age of the Arabs during the European Middle Ages.
Michael Gray
Ikr, I see this one all the time
Colton Cox
Too much to enumerate it all. People here generally seem to take ancient texts literally and disregard the basics of source criticism, which is exactly why you read stuff like shield maidens having been real, Caligula making his horse a consul, and so on.
Andrew Price
there's a Muslim poster here that claims every Islamic empire only expanded as a response to aggression
also does a bunch of mental gymnastics about how Christians wanted to pay jizya and that it benefitted them
Dominic Morris
>nazi tank design was sekai ichi >the catholic church and charlemagne were "truer" successors to the roman empire than the byzantines >genetics and muh germanic/anglo/slav race as a motive for expansion/aggression/national mentality and foreign policy in medieval history
Blake Morgan
>also does a bunch of mental gymnastics about how Christians wanted to pay jizya and that it benefitted them
I mean, when the contemporary Christian version was "convert or get burned at the stake" paying an extra tax while being considered actual citizens seems pretty lenient.
Dominic Long
>Our way lay through continuous farms and ordered settlements, whose inhabitants were all Muslims living comfortably with the Franks. God protect us from such temptation. They surrender half their crops to the Franks at harvest time, and pay as well a poll-tax of one dinar and five qirat for each person. Other than that, they are not interfered with, save for a light tax on the fruits of trees. Their houses and all their effects are left to their full possession. All the coastal cities occupied by the Franks are managed in this fashion, their rural districts, the villages and farms, belonging to the Muslims. But their hearts have been seduced, for they observe how unlike them in ease and comfort are their brethren in the Muslim regions under their (Muslim) governors. This is one of the misfortunes afflicting the Muslims. The Muslim community bewails the injustice of a landlord of its own faith, and applauds the conduct of its opponent and enemy, the Frankish landlord, and is accustomed to justice from him. He who laments this state must turn to God. There is comfort and consolation enough for us in the exalted Book: 'It is nothing but a trial; Thou makest to err with it whom Thou pleasest, and guidest whom Thou pleasest' [Koran VII, 155].
Where is the be burned at the stake part?
FYI, Muslim taxation of Muslims also amounted to half the harvest
Come on now, don't even start this no true Catholic bullshit.
David Diaz
Are you suggesting Muslims did not massacre the shit out of the Jews every once in a while?
Luis Taylor
I'm suggesting that your "Catholic religious intolerance is a myth!" is bullshit.
Kayden Howard
Well I am not saying that.
I said Muslims weren't much more lenient than Christians.
Landon Price
>there is anything positive about Germany
Noah Garcia
The environment of Veeky Forums doesn't really encourage the kind of nuanced perspective on history you need to have to really understand the crusades.
Jaxson Turner
>Eisenhower murdered one million innocent Germans in his death camps!
Adam Collins
Literally anything from a commie apologist.
>Lenin's economic reforms were roaring success >there was no technological and social progress in imperial Russia >revolutionary Spain was a paradise on Earth and not a mismanaged 3rd world shithole >famines happen every day in the Ukraine, the most fertile region in Europe
Ayden Miller
>Rome fell because of this one specific reason that just so happens to reinforce my political belief
Christian Nguyen
This
Gavin Reyes
Does anyone have the copypasta of the guy who thought it took years, even decades to travel from Sicily to Alexandria by boat?
Adrian Miller
>Russia halted its mobilization Adding this to the blatantly false things we've seen posted on Veeky Forums
Jaxon Morris
>muh dejuhnuhruhsee
Always a /pol/fag
Benjamin Russell
>Muslims only managed to conquer the Persians & Byzantines because they were both exhausted thanks to a previous war Explain
Carter Torres
Underrated bait
Wyatt Edwards
>medieval peasants lived completely terrible lives for several hundred years.
Gavin Price
Ah yes, the dark age meme
Jace Brooks
>The Holy Roman Empire was founded by "the pope"
Michael Perez
Quite dank pham
Nathaniel Gomez
...
Bentley Martin
this >imaginary friends
Cameron Allen
>I said Muslims weren't much more lenient than Christians. That's not actually true, though. Sure, they weren't San Francisco liberals holding hands in a race/sexuality rainbow circle, but you're gonna have to make some impressive leaps to compare the sheer number of Medieval and Early Modern religious pogroms against Jews, heretics, and non-[dominant religion] in Christendom versus the much smaller number in the Middle East.
It's not that Christians or Muslims were better people than the other, but that rough religious tolerance was more institutionalized and constant among Muslims at the time. A generation or two of Christian rule could be very tolerant, even better than any contemporary Muslim rule, sure, but almost invariably it all falls apart and there's a Papal bull, or a mob riot, or a pogrom.
Kayden Moore
>still posting that incomplete list that deliberately omits vital information Take a look at the complete one and tell me it's Germany who's in the wrong here.
Clearly it's Russian meddling in the backyard of the Austro-Hungarian Empire which caused the conflict to spiral out of control - and France backed them in that.
>aztecs were bad warriors, they lost against only a couple hundred spaniards
Jayden Cook
I saw that too No, he meant aztec texts that were burned by the spaniards, another guy commented about how all kind of destruction of ancient texts is sad and then a retard arrived saying that people wouldn't feel sad if it was american soldiers burning korans.
Josiah Howard
Strong man Kaiser Wilhelm turns it from a Balkan war into a world war.
Sebastian Johnson
>Pay jizya >Pay Zakat
YOU JUST CAN'T WIN
Mason Anderson
oh no 300 Protestants were burned at the stake in England, oh no goyim it's annuda shoah
Nicholas Diaz
My current favorite is one I saw today claiming that Japan has no degeneracy and no tolerance the liberal boogeyman. This is the country that has several popular celebrity trannies and fags that are regularly on TV and not treated like monstrosities. Weabs are great.
Juan Adams
>Implying that would've happened with germany not wasting resources elsewhere and the soviets getting free shit from Murica
Robert Jones
Not this again How retarded to you have to be.
Christian Stewart
an assault on Christendom by Muslim bandits that the Caliph wasn't doing anything about despite a deal with the Byzantine Emperor Muslim spread probably influenced it as well
Lucas Brooks
>That one dude who thinks that you couldn't sail to sardinia
Cameron Allen
Pretty much everything commies say.
People that are rabidly anti-great man theory
That one nigger that thinks the haitian genocide of white people was fully justified.
Elijah Perez
>the haitian genocide of white people was fully justified.
but it is
Sebastian Bailey
Go fucking home Reagan
Charles Baker
I wish we had a full mad max continent...
Hunter Turner
>Literally everything that happened in the Holy Roman Empire is irrelevant because le >H>R>E Voltaire meme
Evan Brown
Falling for obvious bait Autism ladies and gentlemen
Charles Richardson
Great man theory is baloney my dude. No historian takes it seriously anymore.