/gsg/ - Grand Strategy General

Success! I found the issue in the trait file which was preventing 00_traits from properly loading. This should at a minimum ensure that AI logic is properly loading and the characters are behaving as they should, but ideally this will also mean proselytization actually occurs when zealous characters are generated. Fixed version .23 here: pastebin.com/ET8ZaMF9

Tonight I intend to run a 400 year timelapse, then run a 600 year timelapse tomorrow afternoon. When those are done I'll post some overviews, hopefully tomorrow night, and make any adjustments I need to now that the mod is actually working properly. I hope to be able to begin the manual test as soon as Christmas is over, which should put me on schedule to be ready for lewdmod (if progress is being made there) sometime late next week.

Found the tighie whitie wedgy'd rightfag

I have a feeling that this game is about to go off the rails

Why would anyone play before 1066?

Nah, rgos are ass. I was think of ebin deutsche hangukiums with the settlers being based in qingdao and port arthur or maybe russian philippines, but flips have shit rgos too. Im gonna try my anglo malaya and see how it goes i guess

If i switched the culture to australian would i get immigrants?

>CNT
They got rekt by big government in a year

I am playing mythos

You could always do the good old Belgium exodus, get Britain to conquer Korea for you, then deliberately lose your continental holdings.
You'd have to play an old HPM or mod it though, because you can't annex Korea anymore.

I'm going to be playing in 867 for the AAR. Normally I wouldn't but I wanted to try something new this time, so I'm hoping the mod will help encourage more realistic outcomes.

Though let's be honest, in reality it'll probably be just as bad if not worse than vanilla. At least there'll be more dynamism.

I like how /gsg/ complains t horses and cats but somehow dragons are epic.

is there a mod for an african wars scenario

If it gets really bad will you cheatowner?

>evw never

>expecting any other result when Franco had most of the officers, the trained army and massive foreign support
>implying the achievements of the CNT despite all that weren't bretty good
spotted the DORK

The important thing to remember about EvW is you weren't just losing another Germania blobber, this game would have had realistic goals and compelling gameplay.

Imagine playing as the Irish republic and lending tacit support to the IRA, trying to get American armaments until the entire territory of Ulster essentially becomes a war zone in modern day Europe.

Destroy the communist insurgency and unite China under Chiang kai-shek, perhaps even becoming democratic later in the game.

Fund the international communist movement as Cuba, send people like Che into South America and Africa to ferment revolution.

How about a rogue DPRK? The US pulls out of mainland Asia and you're free to pursue your own form of national communism, but without a common enemy the USSR and PRC turn on you, and you're forced to develop nuclear weapons to defend against every power in the world.

Could be an Anglo-French alliance to keep colonialsim going. Recapture Suez successfully and refuse to back down against the Soviets or the Americans, elect conservative leaders who'll uphold the white man's burden.

Two might not be enough, revive Japan's national pride and re-invigorate your military. Reclaim Korea as a "bulwark against communism" and continue your reign over East Asia.

Set up a Neo-Spanish empire under Franco, bring Pinochet, Peron and others under your influence and stand against both dedadent consumerist degeneracy and wayward communist impoverishment.

Unite the levant and perhaps more under Ba'athist unity. Control the world with your complete monopoly on oil and have the two conventional superpowers cower at your might.

Abandoned by Britain, keep the dream of civilisation in Southern Africa alive and even export it to neighbouring states suffering under NIBMAR.

Be the Shah of Persia and make your nation into a prosperous nation with standards as high and even higher than western Europe, keep the Islamists and communists at bay.

You'll never do any of this btw.

Russia games

No, but part of the new house rules involves intervening in other states if they're doing unrealistically well, and/or creating narrative events and opportunities in the process. So I can encourage egregious territory to rebel in some extreme circumstances, even if I won't cheatowner or force a victory for the independence side (unless the held land violates the house rule about a ruler holding vassal land discontiguous to his primary titles or far oversea).

>the achievements of the CNT

I predict your borders will quickly become so cancerous you'll lose all remnants of storytelling.
>The Tsar of half of Ruthenia, Pskov, and maybe some of Kiev, but also a barony in morocco, which is now catholic despite Iberia being all muslim except for one patch that's Orthodox pondered the Lithuanian request for some time -- seemingly perplexed -- before deciding that the marriage would go ahead. On the understanding the bethrotheds' favourite positions were neither decadently extravagant nor mutually opposed.

>never ever

thoughts?

Russia isn't even unified in 1066, let alone earlied.

Should use the material to make the IoM bigger desu

Earlier starts give you more time to unify and strengthen Russia, to survive horse rape

give ireland ulster back then move the entire island off the coast of the levant where it belongs culturally

based but the land bridge is too big and unaesthetic, should reduce it and do as said

The ideology depends on the traditions already existing in the fabric of society. Communism would succeed and prosper if it were installed in a nation with strong institutions and traditions such as the United States. We would all become kings.

They significantly reduced or eliminated economic/social inequality while keeping their economy running just as strong as before.

>socialism would be good if it were just national

You claim lack of social inequality is a good thing, as if it's better everyone is poor than having middle and upper classes.

WHY
WHAT IS OUR HOPE
IS THERE ANYONE HOPE FOR EVW

Withiut the land bridge it's still Irish, the entire point is to divide it from Ireland.

>Colonialism
>Tag teaming the Eternal anglo with my man China

If they get irrational I'll intervene to a point, if they get impossible the house rules will kick in anyway. It should be mostly fine. The previous 400 year test was surprisingly good all things considered, although it didn't have most of the mod logic functioning properly, to be fair.

How in the hell are they losing against a bunch of uncivilised memers? Their blockade of China alone should have them winning that.

>Jake plays Sengoku Rance
>Becomes EU4 game director
>Immediately proceeds to add Oda to the game in 1444 with straight up broken ideas that let it insta-wipe any other daimyo in the initial battle
hmmmmmmmmm

Uhh yeah when the upper class is based on bootheeling the working class, it's good to get rid of them. The economy ran just as strong, quality of life did not decrease, and actually increased in rural areas.

They have over extended themselves it seems. Might have had a chance if they called all their poo in the loo nations but they decided not to for whatever reason.

I wiped out their entire asian army I guess? I've never done this before.

What should I try and take from these fuckers?

>What should I try and take from these fuckers?
everything you can, prioritize high pop states with your accepted pops. You're forming india I assume

>the upper class is based on bootheeling the working class
But the upper classes are educated in their fields specifically so they can play the role they play in society. They go to business schools, they study the fluxuations of the market, they create jobs and with that employment. They have a vital place in society and if you remove them you see the inefficiencies of nationalized industries and sectors, that struggle to balance budgets and actually do what they're intended to.

Jesus christ China. How did they even get there?

I thought the cuck meme was dead?

Just imagine how the Sikhs and the Chinese meeting in the heart of British India, 1840, would have reacted to one another. In the game these are even two seperste wars, so they might not have any idea the ither side was going to be there,

The CNT collectives didn't struggle at all once they figured shit out. As I said, the economy continued just as strongly before, only difference being the enormous rift of power and oppressive climate for the lower class was gone.

And I thought the Anarcho-socialist meme was dead, but apparently people still believe they wouldn't just get driven over by the nearest nation with tanks.

Did I do good? Also the UK lost the opium war

Do you have any proof of this at all?

Are you trying to form India?

Isn't that the only reason to play the Sikhs?

I saw them, yeah. I thought they were good, though I saw them long after they were posted so I didn't reply.

If I'm being honest it was better a couple years ago, because responses were seemingly more frequent and more positive. It's annoying when you're putting all this effort in and what you get back are shitposts or silence, but there are other benefits. Like I've said before, I don't actually find most Paradox games fun to play through to completion anymore, and AARs allow me to create expanded stories which more deeply invest me than I could become on my own. Even if it sometimes winds up being a lot of work for few (you)s, at least I can get the enjoyment of the game for myself. And it's always fun to go back later and re-read the story and remember all the fun you were having while doing it.

>strong institutions and traditions
>United States
I wish user...

Literally just read about it dudebro, the collectives worked just fine and continued to innovate and invest in improvements. They also continued to compete with each other; they were basically capitalist/competitive entities without bosses in the cities.

I had almost missed my chance to visit the Pampas

To be fair, 90% of the shitposts of your AARs are me fucking around. So I guess turnabout's fair play. I do always enjoy your AARs immensely though, I recently re-read British red on imgur, it's much better when you can sit and read it at your own pace and really take it in instead of speed reading it to get a cognitive reply off. A masterful craft if ever there was one. You make this place this little bit less shit, AARanon. Merry Christmas.

Yeah I know, I don't take the shitposts seriously. I wish there were more serious replies invested in the story as well as the shitposts, but I own that the lack of them could be my fault and based on the way I've played my more recent games, and that's why I'm going back to playing concurrently with posting.

Thanks though, and merry christmas. Hopefully the new AAR will be the second coming of the KoJ, because it was by far my best.

What is throughput tech?

New Byzzy map, lads
Ask me about it, and r8 too

>Have 6 dragon children and one portly boy

wew

That's a Sikh Empire bro :D

I was always trying to get a good on-topic reply out to your Darkest hour one, as what could interest me more than grossgermaniums? The problem as I see it is you churn them out a bit too quickly, the posts I mean. There's no time to digest them and people just see walls of text and ignore it, because sadly that's the nature of this place now. Either that or I'm just really slow. It's probably that tbvqh.

Your best in my eyes was British red, though obviously I'm bias because ANGLO and liqqy, it would have been Nappy but you ruined that with the cuckold stuff. Infact I think all memes aside it probably was the Nappy one, I really liked the way you put the Bonapartes in a fascist state as opposed to a monarchy, as the French empires were in a way proto-fascist.
I can't say for certain, all of your content is top notch stuff at any rate.

Rate my map

They increase the size of the operation, say you use 6 wheat to make 12 liquor, they make you use 9 wheat to make 18 liquor.
They can be both a help and a hindrance, they make profitable factories more profitable and unprofitable factories even more unprofitable.

If you have a laissez faire economy or in general leave industry up to your capitalists you should take them, as they'll make their factories more efficient, but if you're creating your own industry you should take inout and output techs until you find what is and isn't profitable.

I could experiment this next time with putting my posts apart at a 20 minute minimum rather than a 10 minute, but I don't like to formalize anything further out since if I'm posting as I'm playing the time between posts can be way more variable. I remember posts being 30 and 40 minutes apart for KoJ quite regularly, and it'll probably be even slower if I'm taking the time to set up rebellions and whatnot.

Either way, many (you)s or not I'll churn out the best content I can. I'm really excited for the start and aside from this past week I'm having fun modding again, and that's always a good sign going into a game.

But I fucking swear that Nappy cuck shit should NOT have followed me this far. I did it literally one time to show how NappyV was an autistic piece of shit and I'm still getting shit for it A YEAR AND A HALF on? Fuck me.

depends, is that transcaucasia or a georgian dominated south caucasus?

Georgian Dominated

...

Forgot colonies
Madagascar is Jewish

then it's w&b

They can also be used to increase demand for inputs that you produce. If I wanted to help out my fruit farmers, for example, I could research throughput techs that increase the fruit demanded by wineries, or if my steel mills are hurting, by increasing demand for steel in artillery factories, automobile factories, etc.

I'd poll it if I were you. I'm just offering my opinion and I don't want that to be taken as gospel because it's probably the case that I'm the only one who thinks this would improve things and everyone else wants you to post as frequently as you can.

I think modding your own playthrough is the way forward, having to fix Niggermod's broken events finally made me realise I can just cheat to form my /pol/kid fantasy blobs, the possibilities are endless. Tomorrow belongs to me, as it were.

all me btw Seriously though, I don't know why you thought for one second that added to the story or wouldn't get you shat on, people can be autistic without their wives sleeping with other people. You didn't see based Willy getting cucked, did you?

Throughput techs help RGOs? I thought they just made factories larger.

>nationalist based socialism has to be right wing
See

I don't mean that they help out RGOs directly by increasing their production, but indirectly by increasing the demand in factories that consume their goods.

>tankies
Literally just nazis in denial.

I should have westernized sooner but I conquered everything asap. Also I used to have more land but russia took some of it, I'm in UK's sphere now though.

I don't think I'll change the post timing formally, I was more getting at they should be naturally further apart since I'm going to be playing concurrently now. We'll see if the responses are better and I'll decide how I want to handle it in the future from there.

End game goals?

that's why they're based
my friends know im right wing as fUCK and they think I get pissed off by internet tankies but i actually quite like them for idolizing stalin (who was crypto-proto-nazbol)

wow

Roger. Are you at all worried your next AAR won't be viewed as positively as your others due to the --- no disrespect -- lackluster setting? Before you've done universally powerful and great countries like Germany, France, Britain, and now this seems like a step down in that regard. I mean I know you'll be able to pull it off due to your phenomenal character developement skills, but it just seems like it's missing that bite that your AARs usually have.

I like these borders, I just want back the tajik parts that russia took earlier. I want a decent industry score and I might turn on islamic gommunism

I'd take Khorasan and Baluchestan so you at least look like a reasonable blob rather than tall Afghanistan.

I might because of the coal there
its just I really like these borders already

That's part of why I'm doing it. I don't want to always start in a dominant or potentially-dominant position. Jerusalem wasn't really a powerhouse when I played CK2 previously either, but it was a crown with decent history behind it that was at least stable at the time I began it, and as you said Germany, France and Britain are all properly great powers. Now, I'm going for a tribe that has nothing going for it at all and I've got to make it into something.

That might seem more difficult or uninteresting from the outside, but I'm all the more excited. From my perspective, having nothing defined going in allows me to generate centuries-long stories, traditions, rivalries, etc. with no historical precedents standing in my way. Beginning as a tribe, I can write the story of Lithuania becoming a power in its own right, or at least chronicle the series of events that prevents it from ever taking that position, and I can generate everything however I'd like. If the story demands for a King to have an estate or a rivalry with another branch of his house, I can write it that way immediately with no need for research or caution. That kind of freedom is something I've never had before, and I can do it quite literally from the ground up.

So if it seems more uninteresting I don't blame you, but for me I'm ready for it. It might be a flop, but from where I'm sitting right now it feels like it's going to be the best chance I've ever had to really flex myself narratively and write a story as much, if not more, than I just play the characters.

I can't see why, they're trash, the make no sense from a cultural, historical, or geographical point of view. They follow the mountains and the indus, then they just randomly blob into Sind for no reason. No nation ever has had these borders, they're atrocious.

but this is pretty close
I dont really want panjabis and sikhs in my empire being like 70% of the population

HOI4 is $30 for the whole kit and caboodle.

Y/N?

No, I think it sounds like a great idea, like you say, that sort of blank canvas opens itself up beautifully. Your AARs at times have felt boxed in due to the very nature of the pre-existing scenarios but this is your chance to be unleashed, to write something entirely fresh, and I think it's honestly going to be one of the, if not the best narratively driven creations we have ever or will ever see here.

Are you definately staying your starting culture and religion all game? If it was me I'd become German and gas everything up to the Urals.

That's why I'm saying to expand west, into Khorestan and Baluchistan, rather than East. Also north into Transoxiana to make a Timur style empire would be pretty cool as well.

Yes sir