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>Can I make enough ISK for PLEXing?
Training and playing through some 5M SP is actually F2P now (as well as a specific 20M SP for characters already trained). The skills listing is here:
community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/clone-states-the-next-steps/

>I just started, what should I do?
Do the Opportunities then find the Career Agents & run all of their missions. They give you ISK, ships, skillbooks and teach you basics. Talk to players and try to find a corp.

>Is it too late to start playing EVE?
No.

>Read the (outdated) /eog/ pastebin:
pastebin.com/yr1SsqMm

>Focus Group Logs:
focusgrouplogs.tech.ccp.is/

Currently:
>EVE Online: Arms Race
>updated F2P

Past:
>EVE Online: Lifeblood:
updates.eveonline.com/date/2017-10-24/
>Alpha ships re-balanced.. minigames, moonmining, refineries, and more!
>Foozie makes a bunch of stupid, pointless changes (don't ever remove this from the OP, because it is always true).

>previous thread

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Reminder not to listen to alpha ccp shills

fpwp

someone post a garmur fit

3x t2 lml
republic fleet point
microwarpdrive
fit rest of slots to taste

fifth for someone post a garmur-counter fit

Have used this throwaway thing once to tickle the butthole of a roaming garmur in some e-leet small gang peeveepee.

>previously, on /eog/

>medium arty inferior to rails for range, DPS, and tracking
>beams preserving PG on pulses but only getting, e.g., 27% of the tracking at ~30km

>120 dps
>4k ehp
Literally worse than my tristan

Lock range of said Tristan? Honestly I should probably use a Heron, or at least ditch the Heat Sink for whatever tank might fit.

FC I FEEL DIZZY

how does lock range matter, only range that matters is disruption range.

How are all those targets legal?

zkillboard.com/character/95318765/

you can't use a guidance disruptor on something outside lock range :)))))

Vigil is already seeming like a much better hull for this.

that makes no sense, lock range doesn't matter

Are they all braindead retarded or did they remove invulnerability upon undocking?
I plan on making a Leopard trip to Jita, can 2s align + dock/undock BMs not keep me safe (assuming no smartbombs)?

They likely didn't use dock/undock bookmarks. If you're sub-2s align and use dock/undock bookmarks you'll be fine.

the fuck are you going to be guidance-disrupting, the stargate you are sitting next to or the garmur thats 70km out dicking all over whatever is keeping up with it? Things that garmur is going to care about: not your shitstan.

He obviously gets concorded but only loses cheap thrashers and makes good ISK out of retards like the Leopard pilot.

Confirming, if you use instadocks and undocks correctly i can't get you. Smartbombs can get you on a gate, however. That's generally not super likely though since leopards warp so fast.

I recall bumping off large things mid-undock can fuck up alignment to instawarp bookmarks, though it won't break invulnerability and you can just retry. I remember Apostles were being parked on the Saranen undock.

Thanks for reassuring me.
I wasn't sure because I assumed nobody was this retarded. Guess human stupidity actually is infinite huh.
And yeah I know about smartbombs that's why I added the clause mentioning them.

What are the odds of me being scanned on gate in sub 2s align? Let's assume that I always land at 0 on gate.
Generally impossible right?
There was that one story of someone with a small ping being able to pull of a 1s lock, is it something to worry about or just meaningless anecdote?

It is possible to target and scan/scram/shoot someone before they warp off with 2s align but it requires absurdly high scan res. Generally not something you have to worry about.

Generally pretty meaningless IMO.

If you're so worried why not get in like a travel dramiel so you have like 5x the tank? You lose a few au/s but it's also sub 2-s align and the tank stops you from dying instantly to a smartbombing maller or a single thrasher if you fuck up your align.

make dumb highsec pubbies haul it with full collateral instead of doing dumb shit with loads of money

Alright. Thanks again.

It's between that or leopard.
Tank on a dramiel makes me much easier to lock/scan, and I'm sure a toast if I get scanned early, expecting a >1b load which can easily cover suicide expenses.

There's also an option of running a blockade runner or DST. But I'm not sure how that fares in terms of gank security? I imagine it attracts more attention than a dramiel/leo.

This is also an option. I defaulted to it the last time. Might go with it again.
I still need to get myself to Jita, without the cargo. So all the leo/dramiel questions are still valid.

i'm talking about warp disruptors, they're kind of essential for pvp

You ought to make an alt character (or better yet, and alt Alpha account) to mostly just sit in Jita and conveniently do all your dealings. Contracting your shit to them and feed them money and never travel your main to Jita ever again.
Rip off the bandaid and get it done. Now that Alpha exists it's free and the sooner you do it the more useful that alt can be trained to be.

Ever actually fought or flown a Garmur or Orthrus?

>muh guidance disruptors
mate what are you doing, that's not how you deal with a garmur

yes they always get me with warp disruptor from very far away thats their whole thing

As much as I'd love to, Accounting V is off limits to alphas and I can't afford to feed two mouths.
I'm consider setting up a Jita-only character on the same account.

But has a trip to Jita, entirely free of cargo, become this much of a risk to warrant a character like that?
I don't mind the hassle if it is all, just the risk.

>But has a trip to Jita, entirely free of cargo, become this much of a risk to warrant a character like that?
It isn't. Just use a shuttle or something else with sub-2s align and use dock/undock bookmarks and you're fine.

This answers last of my questions.
Thank you and everybody else involved.

ECM is OP because of combinations of N+1, scrams, webs, and the speeds of those types of playstyles.

Secondary-countering: the receiving ship's worth

what types of playstyles

>playstyles

..Those where getting blobbed is an issue.

what does that mean?

>Cruisers being faster than Dessies
>though still potentially rocked by an interceptor tackling them (for groups skillful enough for warping to 0; fitting webs; etc.)
>multiplied by the fact that AB fits (for bunches of classes) are about as effective as pre-planning and aligning (this is negging the depth/skillfulness of those speeds as well, BTW)

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>Malediction just KM'd a Garmur

zkillboard.com/kill/66813888/

>thinking that's a big deal

A previous KM shows 105 | 124 DPS, with the obvious proximity of rockets (~10km).

so

Beams on a Slicer..

another garmur with a better pilot

speedcreep

>garmur
>piloting skill

shield supers

shield exequrors

newfag here, did serbs just ded or is this updating the serbs?

how is he killing them without getting concorded?

Tell me fun things you can do in Eve without paying a dime (not poorfag, just greedy).

station spinning

They should implement a market for that.
Each unpacked ship has a "times spinned" counter and for every 100 trillion spins it gets a special killmark-like mark.

tfw new All-Out wins their first brawl today

Does Eve require good ping to play?

Serbs got dunked by NATO

australians play it and the server is in london

not really. server updates your actions every tick (1 sec) so a bad connection still has plenty of time to respond
i haven't ever had eve lag noticeably because of my ping

imperium.news/understanding-eve-online-server-tick/

>imperium.news

>tick

It supposedly taking a company of 501-1000 6-8 months for making some "player housing", with character invitations, is a ludicrous exclamation.

Attention
Arty vagabond.

imagine being so autistic that you got bamboozled into believeing that WIS could happen

100ms you won't feel a difference, more than that and you will feel it but it won't be disastrous until you get to the 300s.

Stable connection is far more important, having packet losses tends to give you bad jump loads or connection lost.

>well, that's plausibly for the whole of these sorts of updates, walking in stations and such
That's sensible, but what's still worth critiquing is that 4-6wks. for "keeping Captain's Quarters" updated is an odd statement for something that's already implemented.

It's helpful having such a feature because it's a suggestion of something beyond the spaceships (for development direction).

The percentages of characters "defaulting" to C.Q. seems odd as well. How was that an option?

>erpfags still butthurt

imagine being so retarded you ever thought WIS would be good

>well we could sit in the station and talk to each other and buy clothes

Eve-o is about spaceships not gay dolls. All dev effort should be put into spaceships and adding sand to the box not dress up in fag quarters.

Well i've gotten a job working in insurance so i guess it's time to start playing EVE again to fill the void

How much it's actually planned internally (basically, no/yes -- it's obviously been important enough for investigating) seems correlative with that other spaceship adventuring simulator.

>station games and gambling

Warm memo that one-way transactions are legal in an abundance of countries. It's analogous to a lot of the lootbox stuff going.

Seeking risks is really interesting.

>autism

I would cream if CCP let me walk around the station and go to like a spacebar with spacepoker and spaceblackjack and gamble my isk away. they could make high sec stations have like nice casinos and low sec have shitty grimy dive bars where u might just get shot

warm memo that you're retarded

more like warm meme

Is the Premium Edition worth the purchase now it's like 24 rather than 50?

>Premium Edition

199672234

that doesnt answer my question

>

>reading about trends on seeking vs. avoiding risks
>psychological weight of risk is often doubled

>in researching framing, switching up wording completely flipped the results
>"If preferences reverse based on inconsequential aspects of how the problem is framed, people cannot possibly be maximizing expected utility.[5] Latent here is the unsettling idea that people’s preferences come from the outside (from whomever has the power to shape the environment and determine how questions are phrased), rather than from their own psychological makeup.[5]"

>science disregarding "muh preferences"

Therefore, "EVE is a 3D ARPG" is a helpful advertisement.

..Amongst other sources.

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i mean you get 2 months for a $5 discount and an assortment of nik-naks for free with the price slash so it's not... not worth it but it wont give you an edge if that's what you're wondering. I'd say if you're really interested in starting to play EVE and you think you'll play for at least 2 months, go for it.

oneiros

How do people enjoy this game when if you get blasted to shit (which seems to happen all the time) means you lose a ship and start from scratch? No bait, just curious cause Id get pretty annoyed

You don't fly anything you can't afford to lose

Don't fly what you can't afford to lose

Once you learn to avoid things like gatecamps and bait you can easily get 10x as many kills as you do losses, even flying solo. As for "starting from scratch," you shouldn't be since, as and said, you shouldn't be flying anything you can't afford to replace. Have 100m? Don't fly a 90m battlecruiser, fly a 20m cruiser.

Fair enough, concept seemed a little rough to me but frankly it does give edge to the game and makes sense.

Time to stop being a shitter and try to git gud, thanks anons

>What is a simple definition of fun?

It's a 3D ARPG.

>finally level up my omen
>die and have to start over again