Why was the French Revolution so horrible hostile towards established organized religions, to the point of replacing them with the Cults of Reason and the Supreme Being? I understand anti-clericalism due to the disproportionate power the clergy had, this anti-clericalism was also present during the American Revolution, but the downright bloody suppression and wholesale slaughter of the clergy and those that followed them? Where did that come from? Especially when the Declaration of the Rights of Man and Citizen defended religious freedom?
tl;dr: Where did the desire to entirely dechristianize France come from?
I dunno, but it's probably another instance of the people getting slaughtered not actually dindu nuffin-ing.
Zachary Howard
Jacobins taking things too bloody far
Hudson Kelly
>Cult of the Supreme Being >atheism
Daniel Green
Take your average fedora Give him dictatorial power See what happens
Jason Gray
Because the clergy was corrupt, immoral and rolling in wealth along with nobility. All while preaching humility and poverty.
Literally fuck the church, biggest parasites and hypocrites that ever existed. And fuck every religion that bases itself on lies and hypocrisy.
Thomas White
It was organized religion that was hostile towards the revolution.
Joseph Rodriguez
Because the Church was both nominally the source of the king's authority and an extremely powerful and extremely conservative organization that got special treatment from the government.
Luke Foster
This. People often fail to understand that secularism is just as totalitarian and fundamentalist as any other belief system.
John Torres
>Enlightenment >Literally pic related
Michael King
>understand that the clergy were terrible >don't want to eliminate them OP is a pussy desu
Michael Taylor
It was because the Church condemned the Revolution. The Revolutionaries then asked priests to sign the Civil Constitution of the Clergy pledging loyalty to the nation. Those that didn't were seen (rightly) as traitors and persecuted, but throughout the whole Revolution a "Constitutional Church" of clergy who did declare their loyalty continued to exist and was not persecuted.
Isaac Richardson
because representative governments and genuine religious commitments are not compatible
Angel Foster
>(rightly) just no
Ian Johnson
Atheism
Jayden Roberts
The clergy had disproportionate power because those lands were rightfully the Catholic Church. They developed the monasteries, sowed the land and made it bear life again while stupid secularists were busy fucking shit up.
As for the French Revolution, they followed an ideology called Positivism which believes that because society's culture is built by religion which is "irrational", this irrationalism permeates society through it's institutions and people. They believe if they "remake" society to be more based on "rational" beliefs then society as a whole will become more rational and science will flourish, which they believed to be the answer to all of society's problems.
Ian Clark
Freemasonry
Matthew Cooper
remember that the Church didnt let themselves subjugated to theThe Roman Empire. They didnt register to the empire unlike other religions. Them (French heretics) doing that is like an insult
Henry Russell
That was only because they expected to boss others around, the revolutionaries wanted to put an end to their lust for power.
Michael Foster
>lust for power
That's just your opinion
Hudson King
But it's right. Why else would they always hoard land like crazy and refuse to pay even a nickel as tax to the king? They just wanted to create a state in the state and suck the other state dry,.
Landon Butler
>a "Constitutional Church" of clergy who did declare their loyalty continued to exist and was not persecuted Really? Not even during the whole Cult of Reason/Supreme Being episode?
Camden Price
There was no separation between the king and the catholic religion. Bishops crowned kings, nobility protected the clergy, and often the most important families belonged to both
Hence peasants and bourgeois viewed them as roughly the same kind of people and attacked them without much discrimination. Of course some prominent figures like the abbé Sieyès got away with it because they immediately supported the revolution
>the Declaration of the Rights of Man and Citizen defended religious freedom No one really cared about it before the fourth republic, and especially not crowds of angry workers/peasants
Jack Baker
>Of course some prominent figures like the abbé Sieyès got away with it Sièyes literally said he had "outgrown superstition" by the time he had become an abbot. He was probably one of the biggest fedora tippers of the time, only starting an ecclestial career because it's convenient.
Nolan Lee
the supreme being wasn't a god, he was an ideal
Cooper Nelson
"muh reason mothafucka"
Luke Scott
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cult_of_the_Supreme_Being#Religious_tenets The Cult of the Supreme Being was... >A state religion >A form of deism (ie. acknowledgement of the existence of a deity) >Pushed the idea of an even more personal deity than that of the standard deists at the time (Voltaire, Paine etc.) >Had moral tenants that were "not inconsistent" with Christianity
It was basically Christianity without Christ. The Supreme being was more than an ideal, like the reason of the preceding Cult of Reason was. In fact, under the institution of the Cult of the Supreme Being, many chief architects of France's dechristianization were executed.
I'll never understand why Robespierre didn't just make the jump back to Catholocism and introduced an unneccessary middle step though.
