Was he a hero?

At the time of his revolution he was. Batista was corrupt and the Cuban state was a safehaven for criminals. The people lived in abject poverty and mobsters ruled the cities. The American Mafia even had a strong presence in pre-revolution Cuba. The entire time the US government was not only turning a blind eye to this behavior but condoning it.

Castro was really a consequence of American meddling in the Cuban state and support of a corrupt Banana Republic and a sadistic dictator.

Whether or not Castro was a hero is hard to say. The Cuban people were certainly suffering before him and they have certainly suffered since his revolution. At the time however, I believe he was the best option they had. Batista was truly worse.

He would have been if his ideology wasn't retarded

Ha. The communist dictator of a Cuba died on Pinochet's birthday.

He destroy a country that was as wealthy as Austria and he turned it into a shithole. Basically the average leftist hero

This isn't an argument.

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Pinochet is dead tho

Pinochet was not only corrupt but also literally a CIA asset.
There is no "or" here, believe it or not there are people who don't like either.

No
He was the worst tumor ever suffered here in Latin America.

I hate communists and hate communism. I hate the Sovietunion, China, best Korea. But I like Fidel. I really liked Fidel Castro

>but also literally a CIA asset.
Oh noes

Meh. There's pros and cons about him.

Much better then previous Cuban dicktator though.

Who do you think was responsible for the tragedy desu?

He could have never rose to power without united states helping his ass.

Fidel Castro lead the revolution with the support of the peasants, workers, and students.

the people of cuba would have a diferent oppinion

Wonder who's behind the post?

Most Cubans didn't like Fidel, m8

That's just counting Cuban citizens that are actually polled. Cubans that hated him the most moved to America

I have a question, why do Communists hate the NAP when it, in itself, is a leftist idea?

>Gets 44% of the vote
>"Hated"
This picture forgets the fact that he helped turned Chile into the powerhouse of South America

Which people? The ones who fled for a better life in the US thanks to him or the ones who even today does not know what a mobile phone is?

>the people of cuba would have a diferent oppinion
Not really.Half of the country left and Cuba has become a nigger riden country.
>Le ignore facts and post dumb image.
Why is leftypol so toxic? At least pol posts meme graphics

The job of his brother Raul was literally to make him more Communist friendly.

Which is kind of the unsaid understanding among Cubans no matter how much they dislike Fidel, at least he's not Raul.

What's been surprising is how moderate Raul has been since he took power.

Anyway, Fidel was a complex person and the situation in Cuba is equally complex but I hope Trump doesn't decide to throw away all the progress we've made in normalizing relations.

Source for Batista's Cuba being wealthy as Austria.

He was a hero who lived long enough to become a villain, and then another 60 years.

He was an antihero.

>Prior to the Cuban Revolution, Cuba was one of the most advanced and successful countries in Latin America.[16] The country compared favorably with Spain and Portugal on socioeconomic measures. By the 1950s Cuba was as rich per capita as Italy was and richer than Japan. Its income per capita in 1929 was reportedly 41% of the US, thus higher than in Mississippi and South Carolina.
VIVA LA REBOLUSIÓN

ROBOlución you mean

American trade and tourism was the only thing keeping that going though.

He BTFO the USA and lived to tell of it.

Hero or no he's very impressive.

>yu fockin yankis ar steeleeng my jerbs
>BTFO the USA

>Be communist state right in the USA's backyard
>The USA is perpetually mad about your very existence until like last year.
>Numerous attempts to get the Cuba to convert to capitalism.
>Is pretty much the last, Marxist-Leninist planned economy on the planet anyway.

I'd say the USA got BTFO.

>Better life
Because a life without coca-cola isn't worth living right?

>last year

I'd say in the 80's, once Cuba started falling behind everyone in terms of technology and became a forgotten shithole island.

That's because by the 1950s Europe was still piling up the ruins left by WWII. So saying Cuba, like Paraguay or Congo, was at the level of war devastated euro countries isn't a very exciting panorama.

Cuba was a US puppet state in the form of a banana republic run by a shitty dictator and an oligarchic elite of corrupt bastards to forwards theirs and their US masters interests while the general population was living like shit. That's why Castro won, cause the general population either didn't move a finger to support Batista&the bastards (all of whom fled to Florida after getting buttfucked by Fidel and Che, to keep fucking Cuban and the cuban people from a distance, with the back up of their US master, and founded there the core of what would be the so called Cuban """"""Democratic""""""" opposition), or sided with the Revolution.

That the US was still more than a bit mad about.

And none of that money reached the cuban people in any reasonable numbers.
The real reason why Castro has been so popular in Cubo were the old peope who knew what life was like before the revolution.
These days most of them are dead so it's no wonder that the younger generations want some change.

>and Cuba has become a nigger riden country

Black people have been in Cuba since its inception, your post doesn't make any sense

There are no herpes in history.

Heroes ***** dammit

Im pretty sure there are. It is a medical, scientific, fact.

literally ideology

we don't bow to your facts

Fidel was a nationalist first and foremost. He was a Marxist due to che and Co's influence and a desire to troll America. He was inspired by marti, not some fucking Russians

I'm very conflicted about him.

>Positive
- liberated the country from a dictator that was backed by a foreign government
- removed extreme poverty
- successfully stood up to the most powerful nation in the world
- kept a socialist state, something inherently unstable, running for longer than most others
- survived gazillion of assassination attempts

>Negative
- became a brutal dictator himself
- encouraged Soviets to end all life on the planet in total nuclear holocaust
- put his principles over the welfare of his population

He was a hero to his cause, but a simple good/bad dichotomy doesn't work here.

thanks ano for being actually apolitical

>Propped u by soviet money
>Later propped up by latin american funds
I hope, sincerely as a latin american, that you fucking die along with Castro.

Stay mad.

>Hehehe ny shithole is still going!
>W-what? How dare you point out that they use stolen public funds that crooked governments from Latin America send them!
>How dare you point out that they were once funded by soviets!
>Waaah my dictatorship was stable by itself, waaah big daddy Castro save me
Communists are pathetic authoritarian scum.

>You are literally THIS mad.
lol

Not to mention did I say Cuba was great or that Castro BTFO the USA?

>He BTFO of the USA
>By doing nothing but what was expected of him and not really hindering the USA at all
It's like saying a tiny stain in your shirt is annoying, and that it's the stain's fault and not the assholes that keep throwing paint at it to keep it there.

You're truly pathetic.

You're truly mad.

Yes. He fought for his dreams.

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>Praise Fidel's masterful skill at making America mad
>y-you're a commie
lol

>Black people have been in Cuba since its inception, your post doesn't make any sense
They were never the majority until Fidel chimped out and most wites left
Cuba was wealthier than some US states.They had the most advanced medicine program in the world and the biggest ownership of TV's per capita in the world.Castro and Che were dumb mongs

>Hehehe u mad
>Bwaah Fidel made America mad
If anything Fidel was useful in ramping up the fear of communism which played into the gringos' gameplan.

>Veeky Forums in charge of thinkih

>The real reason why Castro has been so popular in Cubo were the old peope who knew what life was like before the revolution.
He wasn't.Only dumb niggers like Castro.Most cubans rely on money from the diaspora to survive

Which only worked because they were mad.

Repeating the same string of words proves you have nothing else to say which will back them up.

Imagine if an American president sent troops to fight for a regime that ended up being responsible for the deaths of 500.000 people and the starvation of millions. We wouldn't be hearing the end of it.

That's what Fidel Castro did with Mengistu and the Derg regime in Ethiopia (not to mention the support he gave to other communist dictators in Africa, like Agostinho Neto, Francisco Macias Nguema, Samora Machel etc). But not a single person seems to remember, not a single person seems to comment on it regarding their avaliation of Fidel's legacy.

Impressive. This is the power of cultural hegemony.

>cubans in Miami currently partying in the streets to celebrate this mans death

>fart smelling upper middle class socialist mourning him

really made me think

americans nuked two fucking cities killing i dont even know how many civilians lol

youtube.com/watch?v=VsnXeQDqOOg

And people never stop talking about that.

Everyone ignores the support Castro gave to some of the worst dictators of the 20th century. People are more offended about his treatment of gay people in Cuba than over the fact he sent troops to support men like Mengistu, or gave financial and material support to men like Macias Nguema.

As I said, that's the power of cultural hegemony.

*Cuban criminals who got triggered by the poor not taking their shit anymore.
boo hoo

>cubans in Miami currently partying in the streets to celebrate this mans death
Cowards & Pussies who spent not a single effort in retaking their country back.

>Cowards & Pussies who spent not a single effort in retaking their country back.
They tried and failed

>Once.
They weren't like Eastern Europeans who kept on doing underhanded shit to bring their countries back. Soros comes to mind when that cunt funded Anti-Communist struggles the world over,

t. underage suburban white kid on the internet

sooo Castro was good for the poor of Cuba?

Castro promised his people a free election back in the '50
too bad it was canceled due to his premature death

Yeah, see those well-connected mafia criminals in business suit going to Miami triggered by the poor enfranchisement under the glorious Castro regime.

And see how Cuba is such a paradise for the poor that it's being flooded by migrants from neighboring countries like Haiti. Why would they cross the entire Latin American landmass to migrate to capitalist Brazil when they have a socialist paradise next door.

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>if you don't like Fidel you are a criminal
Why are commies so fucking retarded

>cowards! they just hate da poor!-t. rich white kid in the suburbs

Reminder that Castro was from a very wealthy Plantation owner family

>very wealthy
Arguably

But it was the first property he expropiated.

Someone update this senpai

>mfw leftists idolize a murderous dictator near me
So this.......is the power.......of ideology.........huh

He meant for the American mafia

>Implying I am commie.
Just pointing out that faggots who spent not a single effort in liberating their country or whatever are celebrating for a cunt who just dropped dead of natural causes.

I'm literally taking a modern cuban history class in uni right now, that paper due next week just got a whole lot easier

>expropriate farms and factories from the "workers"
>get "workers" to strike against you
>get the "people" asking for a coup
>kill yourself
topebintbhfam

Probably one of the most unfair expectations I've ever seen. How are a bunch of unorganized civilians supposed to pull off a naval invasion of an organized military state?

For the situation of the Cuban people and their ideology, I think it was for the people. And also by the situation. It is simple, every human being has a reaction, and the reaction of the human beings who lived in "Cuba" was the feeling of revolution. Fidel Castro can not be considered bad if he only reacted against a stimulus.
This is the natural law of man. Stimulus and reactions, therefore, the human species is in need of more analysis, not just knowledge.

Cuba was always developed for a Latin American nation. What Castro did was stop it in time, preventing it from becoming as rich as countries like Italy and Spain.

bradford-delong.com/2016/08/lets-get-even-more-depressed-about-cuba-hoisted-from-the-archives.html

and yours isn't a worthwhile comment.

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>How are a bunch of unorganized civilians supposed to pull off a naval invasion of an organized military state?
Badly

nytimes.com/2016/11/26/world/americas/fidel-castro-dies.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=span-ab-top-region®ion=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

No because life is better without an authoritarian government.