Did they ever give a reason why they choose to go for 3D instead of keeping XIII's sprites?
Jaxson Bennett
Hi everyone!!!
Jordan Peterson
Really slow
Parker Sanchez
Because we live in an era where 3D modelling is cheaper, easier and more accessible than 2D spritework. XIII's sprites were so expensive, it nearly put the company under, again. Not to mention the intense spritework meant so many animations and moves were cut.
Ryder Butler
They could have keep the same sprites and just add a few new ones like they were doing before with the old sprites
Aiden Allen
Because XIII's sprites were ugly as fuck and were the cause of severe moveset cuts. A character like Angel would never be done in XIII's style simply because she has too many moves.
Luke Nelson
I don't think you realize just how nuts the XII/XIII sprites were and how agonizing it was to put everything together.
Anthony Jackson
shut the fuck up about sprites already.
Christopher Sanders
>liking this
Owen Parker
Well I'm not saying I like them, just wondering why they change when it cost them so much You're right I must not realize it But still how the others are doing, like BB or Skullgirls, just more money ?
Angel Flores
>BB Arc sys is pretty loaded and they reuse sprites a lot >skullgirls Hand drawn animations, not sprites
Ryan Phillips
hmmmmmm
Nicholas Watson
>Hand drawn animations, not sprites Please explain to a complete ignorant
Justin Russell
HMMMMMMMMMM
Owen Johnson
Sprites are literally tiny dots created into a cohesive image. Some guy carefully connects diffrently collored dots into a frame, then does it again for another frame. Then another. Then another. Its why a single character in XIII took a year to make.
SKullgirls, meanwhile, just drew the animations like in anime. Faster, less time consuming, and a LOT cheaper
Elijah Morales
Well I see now thanks for the explanation
Lucas Murphy
XIII sprites weren't made like that.
Lucas Robinson
well, If I recall correctly, they were 3D models with sprites on top of them, right?
Adrian Gomez
was something like 3d models, drawing, coloring, shading. Thing is, XIII is animated at 60fps. I think BB uses roughly the same technique, but the animation rate is much lower (30 ? 20 ?) and has far less shading.
Henry Mitchell
>2011
Where did the time go... also CVS2 pic to represent the /neog/ thread. Praise Capcom! Here's a rare K'inu! How many years did SNKP put into XIII? A year for 1 character sounds insane, they should've cancelled it.
Justin Adams
Let me guess, IGN?
Henry Martin
did kinu nishimura draw other SNK chars, outside of this and CvS1/2 ?
Andrew Nelson
I can't find the link, but I'm almost sure that Oda said in an interview that at the time they didn't exactly had a department taking care of their financial resources so it was basically a mess... I presuppose that since they needed to finish the game they simply focused on that and delivered it, but then the return did not justified their investment.
Now with XIV things seems way better structured, also in interviews it was said that the return of the game was positive, so at least they recovered the investment they had to produce the game.
Daniel Carter
use your brain and figure it out if you even have one
Wyatt Harris
>Sprites are literally tiny dots created into a cohesive image. that is an arbitrary definition sprites are merely bitmap elements that make up a larger scene, and whether or not they move or animate is not important this is a pragmatic definition meant for programmers the bitmap part is why it ends up not being applicable to 3d, because 3d involves raytracing a scene graph in order to establish its rasterized form
Joshua Hernandez
She did some of the cards in KOF x Fatal Fury. Mai, Athena(princess), K' and Rock.
Ryder Mitchell
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Jayden Adams
>KOF x Fatal Fury that's so weird to read as if kof doesn't already have fatal fury in it
Kinu is super great and her style instantly stands out.
Mason Clark
>musclegirl Not really my kink but I understand the appeal. The lack of Dragunov is a travesty however.
Here's a pic of her for you.
Grayson Thompson
Yoshino's hotter
Cameron White
Indeed.
Ethan White
>SNK's Lightning get that ass banned
Michael Anderson
Room up on PC if anyone wants to play
Ian Murphy
let me have a cigarette first, i'm edgy right now also i was trying to grind sfv survival on normal
Jacob James
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Noah Jenkins
You missed out on the 1 round survival mods. I still haven't bought a character in that game.
Kayden Ortiz
i haven't paid for anything save for the game and since only having started playing for real around mid late december i've amassed 5 characters and still have enough for almost 4 more karin costumes are tempting though
Owen Ward
I'll join.
Isaiah Rivera
Sorry about the bad connection. I don't know what happened.
Julian Martin
I haven't played the game in a long while, so I'm super rusty.
>BLAZBLUE CENTRALFICTION:633 >THE KING OF FIGHTERS XIV:558 >ARMS:344
And I just realized that Injustice isn't part of EVO Japan
Blake Thomas
Why is Arms there? When will Virtual-On get it's eSports scene?
Brody Allen
Better ARMS than Melee.
Aaron Green
Injustass and MvC are American games. Japanese also moved on from Melee instead of living in the past. The KoF numbers look nice when comparing it to anything the US ever got but that's a low standard, the second lowest entry numbers along with no side tourney of '98, '02, '02UM or XIII.
I thought these fucks gave up after the XIIIUM petition not taking off.
Jose Sanders
>the one i win is the one i did the most stupidest execution mistakes
Xavier Ward
>meant to ex orochinagi >do regular dokugami instead fml
Aaron King
Nice - I do wish there was more art of classic Athena with her armor though...
Jace Cook
Is it weird that I always listen to classic SNK Arranged Soundtracks to start my mornings?
Isaac Martin
I suck so much with this character
Wyatt Martinez
SNK ASTs are usually dope, so no
Sebastian Evans
>random lag what
Wyatt Diaz
I'm not sure it's the exact same people who started the petition, but I find it interesting that the only word that was capitalized was "SHOULD" indicating an expectation or an obligation. It would be cool for them if they got what they wanted, but with what was stated in the past about XIII by SNK I think they will be kept waiting.
Matthew Thomas
>do most of my work with kyo (not my main) >my own main sylvie dies easily
Alexander Evans
You're jamming to good music. SNK's music is very underrated among the Fighting Game fanbase. There's so much soul in those ASTs and the musicians and producers were having so much fun and you can feel it.
The only time the music sucks was in 2001-2004 and that was because of the bankrupcy. But they picked themselves up again in 2005 with XI.
Julian Powell
Last one, need to order food.
Caleb James
I know that feel >tfw you want to git gud with Sylvie
Charles Howard
>Hey /neog/~
Aaron Jackson
Is orochinagi the website pretty much unavigatable, or am I just an idiot?
Charles Gray
in hindsight i know what i could have done but i freeze up a lot orochinagi is pretty shit in terms of that
Joshua Robinson
You don't have a boyfriend, do you?
Ryder Reed
After seeing Styleos's pixiv and twitter I see why /neog/ calls Angel a slut. She's literally a hentai character.
Chase King
how am i better at sfv than at kofxiv i don't even play sfv (nearly as much) maybe because i don't care and thus don't get shaken up about it???? >Error: You must wait 1 second before posting a reply >1 fucking second
Dominic Long
You don't need skill to play sfv user.
Carson Reyes
Because SFV is 2D fighting games stripped to it's bare essentials. Anyone can play it. Even Daigo lost to some shitty rapper lmao
Jack Bell
A smash player won Capcom cup. And beat all the pros who not only been playing street fighter for decades but also other fighting games such as KOF and GG. Yes I'm talking about sfv.
Thomas Wright
Please tell me /fgg/ is losing their shit.
Isaac Hall
they shitpost the thread which is just business as usual
Cooper Brooks
Being a fat guy from the Dominican Republic playing the game's fat guy and beating popular players was a bigger sticking point than his history.
Luis Price
I don't view the thread, so I cant answer that. People on other websites like to sugar coat the massive skill ceiling drop that Capcom hammered on the new SF title. I complain about XIV being easier than its predecessors but SFV is on another level, you wont see some XIVer even phase Xiaohai in a set. Maybe take 1 character down sure, this is KOF and taking down 1 character means fuck all. That character is there to build up meter, an OCV is an added bonus.
It's because for however gay maxmode is, the neutral game is relatively the same as most of its predecessors. The shit that's much easier in XIV is relatively trivial to high level play.
SFV got changed completely compared to the previous few entries in the series.
Jordan Scott
Pretty much. The foundation of KOF is still there, minus the walk speed being guttered but that can easily be changed in 1 small update.
Tyler Johnson
I think I found the inspiration to LB's Amano, Haguregumo.
Henry Wright
with all that said about sfv, at least it gets played the moment a room goes down in usa, nobody is left to play against on any mode i can find matches anytime on sfv it's really hard to get play time vs people on xiv it upsets me i probably could find more people to play with on blazblue or even arcana heart
Camden Gray
I know it sucks user. KoF is just really niche in an already niche genre. Maybe you should pick up the new DBZ game when it comes out. That'll have a huge population for sure.
Lucas Murphy
i barely scrape just under min specs of that game so if they have a low spec mode then maybe
Grayson Peterson
>at least people sti-
I'd rather not play a shitty game. DBFZ is a good 2D fighting game to play with a healthy playerbase. I'm not American so I don't have to rely on online to play KoF.
Mason Lopez
>I'm not American yeah exactly my point
Logan Morris
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Lucas Davis
what's the consensus on caro? it'd be nice if she actually got a good unit.