Blizzard really wants you to use Tranquility don't they?
Camden Cruz
I genuinely chuckled
Jason Price
madmen
Ryan Ross
Okay, that's pretty good.
Caleb Price
>Warhead Junction is out of the rotation
Joshua Gomez
Remember when Abathurs spike damage was buffed by 1?
Wyatt Hernandez
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Austin Thomas
Too late to get your mom's portrait now.
Aiden Moore
WHERE ARE THE MECHA SKIIIIIINS
Noah Wright
>Hanzo buffs >no mecha skins Boo >samuro buffs >bunker buff >Valeera nerf >scaling changes to minions and structures Yee
Easton Myers
>hanzo got buffed but why that hero is fucking retarded strong
Adam Campbell
Oh boy
Oliver Turner
>Hitting a Hero with Storm Bow or Basic Attacks reduces their Armor by 5 for 4 seconds, stacking up to 25. What the fuck is even the point of Tyrande now? seems like everyone's getting vulnerability these days, Hanzo at 7 in this case
Alexander Ortiz
read that again
William Clark
Hanzo takes like 12 seconds to get 25% armor reduction up, Tyrandes is instant
Jordan Turner
Nice. Hanzo is fun. What build did they buff? (Please be Q build)
William Baker
Can't we remove BOE instead? Or rework it so that it allow for more character diversity.
Matthew Howard
>ONLY -0.25s Garrote nerf They have got to be kidding Should've just nerfed the duration harder and not the damage
Nathan Torres
>Valeera still shuts down anyone for 2.5s >on a 8s cd >this is fine because she has to put herself at risk!!! >nevermind she has the hp of a tank >and 50 escapes yawn I love wasting a ban every time because blizzard has a hard-on for stealthed sluts
Matthew Harris
Read the notes faggot
Justin Morgan
TLV rework when?
Chase Torres
>nevermind she has the hp of a tank She has less HP then Tyrael, she has a lot less HP then Muradin or Diablo. Her HP is on the same level as Garrosh but she dosen't have nearly as much survivability as Garrosh
Isaac Campbell
if I want to play a never dying tank that anchors for his team what is the best between johanna, muradin and arthas? I'm not a very good tank player so when I have to fill I want to make sure I never die
Jacob Barnes
Arthas or Muradin. Arthas has better in combat healing and lots of slows and roots. Muradin has better out of combat healing and lots of stun.
Zachary Howard
tyrande doesn't have 7.5 range
Ryder Price
Muradin is most versatile Arthas if dealing with tons of melees Johanna for peeling and dealing big dick damage
I'd go with Johanna honestly because I genuinely think she's overpowered atm. Playing Arthas is straight suffering if the enemy team isn't perfect for him and Muradin is strong but rather unremarkable.
Luke Turner
Johanna deals damage?
Ayden Sanders
Take Sins Exposed, Blessed Momentum, and Blessed Hammer then get back to me
Landon Powell
>valeera nerfed to the ground >malfurion meme build is over feels bad.
Kayden Baker
Servers up already?
David Ortiz
Johanna is really good in some maps, but also really good against some popular heroes like Illidan and many AA-based heroes.
now to convince my team the objective is weak and pushing structures is more value
Cooper Miller
Arthas and Johanna mainly counter AA heroes, Johanna is neverdying while Arthas has an engage that isn't his ult. Muradin is more all-around and has mobility but you need to know what you're doing. It's not rare to see Muradin players who abandon their backline to chase a support they can't kill alone.
Juan Clark
It's unironically a pretty nice map. I just hate the loading screen splash art. It's so unfinished.
Aaron Richardson
Gez Nova how come the HOTS team lets you be on so map loading screen?
Christopher Sanchez
Servers up.
>log in >still have a chest Well, that's a nice little surprise.
Brandon Bell
those anime Muradin eyes
Hunter Cooper
Merry Christmas user
Aaron Jackson
I wonder if aa Zera is a thing now.
Carson Johnson
>It's unironically a pretty nice map. agree, except for the 3rd objective which is fought on conveyor belt which is plain retardation, playing around it is minimal and it lends to chaotic, unfun teamfights
Gavin Wood
>150% W untouched Fuck. >Shieldbreaker gone Thank god, no one with 7.5 range should get 1k autos just because some Aba/Tyr accidently gave you a 100 hp shield. Too strong for literally clicking on someone with ZERO cd always >Never Outmatched untouched They could slightly nerf that one to 3s CDR >Spellpower still shit Not enough value for the effort, especially compared to the ezpz instant value of W or Armor Shred >Armor Shred Stupid good because you can easily keep any frontline hero at 15-25 armor reduction so both you AND your team can wreck them Meanwhile spellpower is skillshot dependent, drops super fast, and only buffs his own damage (only the skillshots tho)
Overall he gained one good talent so Never Outmatched isn't the standard while removing the shitfest that was Shieldbreakers. Now buff the fucking Q talent you cunts.
Wyatt Hall
I find it very fitting for the map
Asher Bell
Id say Johanna, she's by far the most survivable of those tanks and the easiest one to play. Her only big vulnerabilities being bodyblocks and shield shatter varian if for some reason you go indestructible when he has battering throw. But Id say arthas and mura are stronger in certain situations. Johanna doesn't have really low lows but doesn't have sky high highs either
Jason Torres
I thought AA zera was the thing after the rework
Gavin Young
Thanks, I'll give Johanna a try, had 4k gold saved up
Aaron Peterson
No. You either went wormhole meme build or cleave meme build.
John Rodriguez
>Retarded monkeys on Blizzard forums and Veeky Forums believes that Valeera was nerfed to the ground.
Seems like the bronze shitters think their opinion matters one single bit.
Valeera was too damn good and reached the top 1 of the ambushers on GM because she was broken as fuck, now she's a bit more balanced but the 2.5 seconds silence is still something that will make her overpowered, plus the poison damage.
Wait I thought Shieldbreaker only did damage to shields? Why are they even removing it, this leaves Varian as the only shield breaker in the game. Do they really want Varian to be the only counter to Sonya, Artanis and Zarya or what?
Xavier Sullivan
You still go Might of the Nerazim with cleave meme build. Actually now that I think about it it's more of a cleave w hybrid meme build.
Robert Wright
>reached the top 1 of the ambushers on GM because she was broken as fuck Yes her 46% wr was impressive lmao
Tad too weak, now it's looking better Legit choice for PvE heavy maps, BoE and works fine and dandy without Nerazim
>AA build VP >Q build VP >full blowup DBZ teleporting Nerazim >Q build Nerazim (it's shit because it doesn't stack) All these work, though the last one is kinda memeing around.
Aaron Hernandez
Remind me again why EU has to wait till Wed for patch day?
Jayden Torres
>Valeera 885 1438 31,3 % 53,6 % 0,2 % This is the only league that matters you braindead bronzecucks, stay mad at how you're still trash at the game even with a broken hero.
Ryan Edwards
Because it's currently the time that most people play at and servers can't be closed for maintenance?
Angel Morgan
When is voice chat gonna drop?
Lucas Jones
I don't play not filthy knife ear slut stealth slut, I play the thinking man's Stealth character
Daniel Miller
>thinking man's Stealth character >The shitter hero AHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAH
James Long
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Brody Sanders
I meant before his rework and that wasn't and ultimate but even now VP is better for cleave meme build unless you're a retarded baddie
Thomas Long
Works like that for everything else, but his damage carried over onto health. That said, it was still too binary, either no one ever has shields so it's shit, or whoever has shields plays with 1-2 abilities, multiple talents and roughly 600 max HP less It oneshots Tassashields, a is CD and reason for his existence. On 7.5 AA range with no cooldown. That's more than Varian does with a later talent while being melee (activatable has a reasonable CD and will only strip one out of five shields from a distance on average)
Jason Torres
Wow, she deals less damage than the average bruiser
Camden Lopez
oh boy
Christopher Howard
Well lads is Firebat as fun as we wanted him to be?
Easton Smith
Fuck yeah, he's awesome.
Jackson Howard
>Garrosh buffed >Malfurion's healing nerfed even more
>inhales
Austin Johnson
"Buffed"
Cooper Parker
One toasty boi
Benjamin Hill
>red blaze somehow more useless than a beginner bot
Cooper Gomez
>Winston, Mcree, and Torb are indentical >Genji, Mercy, Reinhardt, and Tracer are posed different
Mercy and Reinhardt confirmed for hereos, Winston, Mcree, and torb confirmed for skins
Logan Ross
Another overpowered piece of shit huh You'd think they would learn, considering every other hero that can do literally fucking everything was or is OP too Blizzard just can't release a balanced tank/bruiser, can they?
Nolan Anderson
mate it was quickmatch, clam down
James Reed
>1-1 calibrations >zero (0) HL games played >1000 qm games >in masters 2k game wtf blizzard
Ryder Miller
There was a blaze in the enemy team too
Daniel Ramirez
Blizzard has always had shit matchmaking. The only game I can even think of where they had decent matchmaking was probably SC1 Ladder. After that, they kinda said fuck PvP in general.
Carson Bell
>Blaze has access to Nexus Blade at level 20 That's weird seeing how Nexus Blade is mostly reserved for brusiers
Christopher Williams
everytime
Jason Anderson
This is why I still come to this place.
Parker Hall
Well he CAN be a bruiser if talented towards it and even without them more damage is always a good choice for a tank that can already do fairly good amounts of damage.
Xavier Hernandez
It feels really underwhelming though, should've done a bit higher damage imo
Luis Anderson
anyone care to explain the joke?
Dylan Bailey
>samuro nerfs
okay. i guess 75 base hp is supposed to make up for nerfing the go to crit damage and wave clear talent by a quarter
Gabriel Cooper
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Hudson Bell
The point is that it stacks with everything else and works on minions and shit Constant damage over time and slow is hella good
Easton Hall
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Zachary Morgan
>nerfed mandatory talent and buff other ones Wtf blizzard??????
Dylan Smith
>lv 280 >Friends around of 100 >Everyone on the enemy team is 500+ with two 1000+ How is this allowed
Ethan Clark
How are you this retarded
Jeremiah Watson
Levels don't mean shit
Leo Martinez
Well they must've played for a fucking long time or been high enough when 2.0 rolled around