/xgg/ - Xenogames General #87

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

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girlDog
girlDog

FLORA

Methnerd
Methnerd

ENTHRALLED, MUCH?!

TreeEater
TreeEater

Also the fanworks pastebin should be either updated or removed

likme
likme

I can see you're in need of my expertise.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

It's a new thread everyone!

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

LOOK ALIVE

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Here's the itinerary for the day...

viagrandad
viagrandad

What stage is best to get Poppi element cores? Or should I just grind 2 until I get the ether to make them?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Light Element can only be found in stage 5 from the big chest. everything else you can make if you want

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

So does anyone know what some good blades are for everyone? I've heard Perceval and Floren are good but I was just wondering about others.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Could you be a little less specific?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

So I rolled KOSMOS on Morag unfortunately, can she be played well as a DPS and put Tora back in to tank (I do have her final form, can just farm the minigame a bit for mods)?

I supposed I can also just put KOSMOS on rex since he can use anything, but two light blades on one person seem pointless, especially since Mythra is already so good.

massdebater
massdebater

You need a separate manual to craft the dark element
Fuck me. At least I'm at 7/8 elements in my party now.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

so I got ursula, I've heard you can make her merc missions take as little as 2 minutes, how? Do I just have to get really lucky with blade rolls that have both of the extra requirement things?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Overdrive her, she's useless on Morag

Techpill
Techpill

CUTE!!
the jiggle

StonedTime
StonedTime

I might try to meme and make Morag a dps, reading some things.

Will probably wind up driving her to Zeke though I guess.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Why do people say Nia is good with axes? Saw videos of her with Zenobia on YT before and kinda confused.

I always ran a full squad of three healers on her or just equipped her to Rex for when I wanted amazing heals.

Emberfire
Emberfire

I just arrived to the first floor of the world tree, chapter 8, how much story is left?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Can you post the link I'd like to see it in action

People say that Nia is good with axes because her art that recharges on crit has 3 chances to recharge vs the standard 2. Her str is the lowest though so its not like she completely outshines everyone like how she does w/ ether cannons

Supergrass
Supergrass

Would you take her to Elysium?

likme
likme

Yes and I'll choose her sister at the end.

Inmate
Inmate

useless
No blade is useless outside of Godfrey you minmaxing faggot

massdebater
massdebater

Having her on Morag is much more useful than she'll ever be on Rex

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

Merc Mission affinity nodes
WORST nodes. Can't fill them with merc missions until you've actually completed that many missions with them. Why even bother if I can't cheat fuck off commons

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Xenoblade 1
Melia gets cucked

Xenoblade 2
Nia and either Pyra or Mythra gets cucked

So about that next game they're making...

Techpill
Techpill

Aren't Pyra/Mythra supposed to be two sides of the same person? Like they share everything including memories.
Why do people argue about the "canon" version of the choice when you are just choosing a name/temper when they merge?

Flameblow
Flameblow

Three chances for a crit per art means she's hitting it a lot more often.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Well it's first girl you met and loved you since you met vs original bitch that has to warm up to you before showing that she likes you.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

how is xenoblade x?

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

1
girl never confesses and probably never gets over it

2
girl confesses, but never expected to have her feelings returned. Is over it and never had hard feelings, despite the MC fearing she would

3
girl with a crush on the MC is a bad guy, confesses, gets rejected, she goes crazy and you kill her

It's the only proper evolution and you know it.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Coffee and milk give us caffellatte but aren't the same thing.

JunkTop
JunkTop

Not really. I can still classify latte as a coffee or milk drink.

Techpill
Techpill

two sides of the same person
I want /v/ermin to leave.

SniperGod
SniperGod

The problem here is that Rex would never meet Pyra without Mythra creating her in the first place.

whereismyname
whereismyname

Nah natural would be
Girl not only confesses but try to push herself on the MC, gets rejected hard but somehow enjoys that

DeathDog
DeathDog

Just beat all the UM, complete the weapons skills and charts for the pilots, so this is when the switch wait in the dust until the dlc?

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

No, I am here to stay and shit on your headcanons.
muh nintendo pr trailer confirms
muh poor japanese confirms
muh old interview confirms
muh default choice confirms
muh flawed logic confirms

iluvmen
iluvmen

Clutching at straws indeed

Inmate
Inmate

That's like saying you can't love someone without loving their mom because the former would never be born without the latter. Flawed logic at best.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

you can't love someone without loving their mom
If the mom is literally the same person in every way but with a different attitude then why shouldn't I love her too?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

When you put it that way Rex should also fuck the Architect because he created her. They are the same coin as an individual, but they are separate beings with their mind. Also most of the romantic scenes are with Pyra not Mythra so that is the reasoning on why people choose Pyra over Mythra. After all it's Rex and not the Aegis who names the merge form.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

muh nintendo pr trailer confirms
For some reason, the trailer doesn't make Rex yelling both names, even though they went as far as selecting voice lines that aren't part of the same scenes.
muh poor japanese confirms
Except several people confirmed, while guys on /v/ claimed things that go against to the basic grammar rules of the language?
muh old interview confirms
Yeah, because a production note that still go consistently in that sense after the release of the game is "old"?
muh default choice confirms
Funnily enough, prior even the choice thing, the tutorial itself named her after Pyra, instead of mentioning both girl.

RavySnake
RavySnake

more Morytha fucking w h e n

Illusionz
Illusionz

They are the same coin as an individual, but they are separate beings with their mind
wat

Flameblow
Flameblow

Did you really play the same game? Why do you think both girls ask Rex if they want to talk with the other? Sharing memories doesn't mean jackshit when it comes to individuality, otherwise the numerous persona switch in the story wouldn't be necessary.

The fact they talk to each other further confirm they have their own individuality, and the fucking ending even goes as far as splitting them.

cum2soon
cum2soon

An acquired taste. Exploring, side quests, customizable builds are the game's strengths and it has some genuinely amazing moments. But it drops the ball on what a lot people consider key elements of Xeno. Characters, story, even themes are only glossed over and the plot stops just as it starts to thicken.

cum2soon
cum2soon

glossed over
So much this. The themes are strong and present, but they are so badly handled that they felt like a missed opportunity. Doug's doubt in the end hit home, but it happened so late in the game that it makes you wonder if you didn't play a different game at some point.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

For some reason
To not spoil you that there will be a fucking choice.
Except several people confirmed
Oh yes the vague phrasing confirms everything
a production note
is called like this for a reason
prior even the choice thing
so why does it matter?

You fags literally go against the fact that there is a legitimate choice presented in the game. Saying that Pyra is de only way is pure waifufagging.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Basically they share the body meaning that they are literally the same to Malos and Jin, but since the most stimulating part of the woman is the brain that makes choosing between them more important.

Flameblow
Flameblow

Since when admitting only 1 character makes sense for a certain pairing means they are your favourite?

You are missing the point: Mythra doesn't feel like a legit choice because she lacks so much development and actual interactions with Rex that she feels like more some extra to Pyra instead of being a second heroine.

StonedTime
StonedTime

Mythra is pure fanservice

Lunatick
Lunatick

And now you idiots are going to explain to me why title screen features both of them holding hands with Rex at the end despite the choice.
You can't.

Inmate
Inmate

every female blade is fanservice

WebTool
WebTool

responding to /v/
What's the point?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

holding hand
he must love both, guys!!!
Truly best logic.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

she feels like more some extra to Pyra instead of being a second heroine.
Ever since Mythra woke up I felt like she was in charge honestly.

TechHater
TechHater

?

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Azami is pure

TreeEater
TreeEater

mamiko noto's voice alone makes me orgasm

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

To be honest, Mythra sounds like the true Aegis, so I agree when you mean she was in charge (except when Pyra decides to give a big fuck you to Jin and Malos).
But as far as her interactions with the team goes, she is sidelined for weird reasons. She has 0 H2H with Rex, and it feels like her closest friend was Poppi.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Finch is the ultimate fanservice

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

You know what I meant

TechHater
TechHater

Agreed

Firespawn
Firespawn

Ok, so I just got to chapter 8 and got everyone back.

Can I farm for a rare core now? Or should I wait till post-game? I am still running around doing all quests that has been collecting dust.

FastChef
FastChef

I want to marry a generic Ardainian NPC.

Snarelure
Snarelure

When the fuck is the DLC coming? Why haven't they said anything about it yet?

MPmaster
MPmaster

trying to find my way to Genbu's brain
end up in a level 80 tirkin camp
I honestly don't even know how I got to the bridge to come down here because I was exploring some other tower before that.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

shitposters on /v/ saying the game didnt get good for them until 30 hours
???
Like, theres not some huge shift in level scaling or something. Obviously, holding chain attacks and toppling until Uraya was bullshit (and you could still topple just not with rex), but other than that theres not really some huge shift where the game goes from "alright" to masterpiece
The only 2 times like that are right after the first Morag fight where the game completely opens up and thats only a few horus into the game - and then in Uraya when the stop blueballing you with the mechanics.

TechHater
TechHater

Think you can take me?!

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

/v/
whats with all of these /v/ related posts here today?

Supergrass
Supergrass

i bought the digital version. faster loading.

Those goggles are straight up the monado/shulk color scheme

likme
likme

i bought the digital version. faster loading.
Mythra is only a canon choice for collectors edition owners. Enjoy your plebian Pyra.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

I bought the collector's edition and I still chose Pyra though.

w8t4u
w8t4u

Crossposters are upset that people on /v/ think the game is any less than great/perfect/good so they come over here to bitch after losing an argument instead of not giving a fuck.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Engage in battle alongside a female Blade
2/7
Party is Pandy/Sheba/Dagas, Mythra/Roc/Agate, Poppis
won;t go up from 2
haven't changed party at all

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

fag
people unironically read /v/ in 2018

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Try switching between them in battle?

SniperWish
SniperWish

Which character?
Maybe you're supposed to equip female blades onto the driver

trying to have an actual argument or fruitful discussion with /v/
Fuck that, I just skip that step and come straight here. I love complaining for the fuck of it.

MPmaster
MPmaster

Pyra best girl

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Apparently it actually means initiate the battle with Sheba out and females in the party. No idea why it stopped counting at 2 though when I had her in the lead for at least a dozen fights.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

I have only seen fruitful story discussion here than on the whole internet.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

two sides of the same person
If you're trying to imply that "same person" is Pneuma, you're wrong because Pneuma isn't really her own person.

takes2long
takes2long

I wanna marry Sheba

idontknow
idontknow

According to veekyforums.com/thread/201933203/video-games
We're using docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mKrSAAi_sj8xpt7t8s1JGMRUh4O-e7MxAb2P_g9AWOM/edit#gid=2006989440 for the google doc now. It's setup to not be lockable.

TechHater
TechHater

dr jekyll and mister hyde are the same person?

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Did you even read the OP

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

It is the same doc, tim.

Nope, and contrary to them, Pyra is a creation (not just a personality) altogether so it is even more distinct.

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

I did a search and the #grid fucked me

TechHater
TechHater

Dr Jeykll and Mister Hyde never spoke to each other or held discussions so that's a very hard questions to say.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Pyra/Mythra share the same body but they are a not clearly the same person

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

no shit Sherlock

Emberfire
Emberfire

Thanks Watson i'm the best

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

youtube.com/watch?v=LOqttplcR7Y

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Pyra's not even a person, she's a tulpa.

Emberfire
Emberfire

A tulpa is an entity created in the mind, acting independently of, and parallel to your own consciousness. They are able to think, and have their own free will, emotions, and memories. In short, a tulpa is like a sentient person living in your head, separate from you.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Then Mythra is a gulps too? Without Pyra (or Mythra) = no Pneuma

Inmate
Inmate

Tulpa*

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Thats why Rex needs a real deal.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Go the HECK away Nia

Firespawn
Firespawn

Nuuu poor girl

Firespawn
Firespawn

I honestly don't really get the speech Rex made to Jin during the chapter 9 fight. He claimed that Blades will stop humans from ruining Elysium after he dies, but how the fuck are blades meant to do anything when they lose all memories? The past selves becoming new selves makes no sense since your past self doesn't exist save for your personality, so how the fuck is it they're meant to remember what they should be doing?

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Love both of them so much.

likme
likme

Mythra is shit! SHIIIIIIIT!

5mileys
5mileys

The same way how humans leave a legacy to the next generation? It isn't rocket science: Rex tells him the bonds blades have when they are alive is pretty much the same as humans, as in other individuals, be it humans or blades, interact with each other, which leave something behind them, even when they lose their memories.

And rex was pretty much envious of them because even in the grand scheme of things, blades still can contribute after each of their cycle, and become titans later.

Flameblow
Flameblow

Hikari is __ok

whereismyname
whereismyname

But this seems so obvious, why the fuck was Jin so angsty about it?
Can't someone just tell him did you know that humans lose their memories too when they die so he can calm down?

askme
askme

Mythra x Pyra best ship.

Bidwell
Bidwell

Because the problem for Jin is the fact he cannot accept the way how God created them.
To Jin, the fact passing a legacy behind didn't come to his mind because of the immortal nature of them. That's the very reason why Malos' comment about "words can be a curse" hit home with Jin: Jin is basically shackled by Lora's plea, thus is unable to throw away his life considering the nature of the blade. He is inherently conflicted by this solely because he couldn't go forwards when it comes to his life with Lora.

Without any perspective in sight, he basically resented God for this. He didn't see any point of Blades' lives because they were inherently tied to humans, and as such, he couldn't consider them as individuals.

Spamalot
Spamalot

words can be a curse
Ah, okay. That makes a bit more sense. Thanks.
His motivations still seem pretty retarded the more I think about it since he's complaining about a non-existent problem to begin with. It sounded as though he's doing this for all blades or something but it turns out he just can't get over his dead waifu.

takes2long
takes2long

Honestly, if I was Rex I wouldn't really bother getting married with Pyra post ending. You can't have kids with her and you can't grow old with her and she will outlive you a hundred times. Why not just settle down with a normal human girl?

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Actually, it isn't inherently his fault.

Amalthus is pretty much the reason why everything have gone wrong, but even then, humans still follow his lead, which probably enraged him even more.

You have to consider this: Jin and friends were the very reason why the world wasn't turned into a pile of ashes. But even then, Amalthus just crashed the party and destroyed them just because he was afraid of the Aegis and the "blade and humans should be equal" thing. The direct consequence is the fall of Torna.

Of course, Lora's death is a huge catalyst for Jin anger, but the catch is that after knowing the truth behind the blade cycle, Amalthus actions revolted him even more: Blades are de facto needed for humans to live, yet humans treat them like tools. Of course, Jin doesn't think all humans are inherently bad (he did have hopes in Rex after all), but the problem is that Amalthus pretty much control the blades with all the shit with Indol, and every nation just accept that situation.

To Jin, seeing humanity accepting this situation and learning their past hubris (Morytha etc) made Jin despair, because humanity is just "wretched" and god didn't do shit. In fact, God seemly made a system that facilitate blade slave nature towards humanity. Seeing his masters AND creator completely nuts with that perspective made him conclude the world is not worth protecting.

Of course, Rex's answer is entirely different, and he realize that Blades are there to guide humanity instead, which is actually close to truth considering Klaus' explanations. But from Jin perspective, it was nearly impossible to compute because of the "curse of words" and his own knowledge of what happened in Torna.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Makes more sense after thinking about it. Thanks for the explanation.

viagrandad
viagrandad

So to be clear: Rex doesn't love Nia, he loves Pyra and Mythra. Pyra and Mythra are in love with Rex and also they didn't lose their memories at the end. Rex ends up in a threesome relationship with Pyra and Mythra. Is that correct ?

Playboyize
Playboyize

No. Rex is in love with the girl whose name you picked during the choice in chapter eight.
He is either in love with Pyra or Mythra. There is no in between.

Snarelure
Snarelure

At the end he hold hands with both tho. If what you say is true, then only one should be holding hands whike the other just stands by their side...

girlDog
girlDog

This is a very poor argument since holding hands is just a sign of a connection between individuals. I don't see why two people have to have romantic feelings for each other to hold hands, especially when everything in the final chapter heavily implies that Rex was only ever in love with one of them.

iluvmen
iluvmen

Mythra clearly still loves Addam, or Zeke but no Rex

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Zeke
WAT.

girlDog
girlDog

For scientific reasons I visited leddit and guess what - everyone there is vouching for Pyra/Mythra being one person and downvote anyone who rightfully disagrees. Really makes you think about nu /v/.

Methnerd
Methnerd

holding hands is lewd for nips you know.

w8t4u
w8t4u

le reddit is right.

JunkTop
JunkTop

What does that have to do with the fact that the ending strongly implies that Rex only loves one of them?
I genuinely don't understand the people who unironically argue threesome because of a title screen when it goes against everything in the story.

viagrandad
viagrandad

I just got to the part where dunban joins the group. I swapped him out with Reyn, but he is really lacking. I assume I need to level him up before he becomes useful. What skills should I focus on for him? Also, did /xgg/ ever have a doc for XB1? I'm not too sure what to gem for. I'm giving Reyn muscle, Shulk gets strength, and Sharla gets ether. I'm going to assume there is a much better way to gem.

StonedTime
StonedTime

Addam is dead and Rex proved to be better than Addam. Also her spirit is all warm because of Rex

Holding hands for Japanese is a great deal. Why are only Pyra and Mythra there ? Where are the rest ? That moment is romantic hence why only Rex, Pyra and Mythra are present.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Strongly implies
Explain yourself.
Goes against everything in the story
Rex said that he is going to Elysium for both of them, not just 1.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Pyra and Mythra there?
Because they're the Aegis and the story was focused on them?

That moment is romantic hence why only Rex, Pyra and Mythra are present
This is called "headcanon" and isn't supported by the story or ending.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Holding hand had no romantic vibe with the aion scene in chap7. I see no difference in the title screen as it is a symbolic image of them finally arrived to Elysium

Techpill
Techpill

twitter.com/sorayasaga/status/944550048854982656
How can you explain this?

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Yeah long story

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Well then, not a bad draw considering I only have maybe half the rare blades so far.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Because Rex made a choice between Pyra and Mythra when he made the choice as to what to address their combined form in chapter eight. It's that simple.

Rex said that he is going to Elysium for both of them, not just 1.
He's mostly doing it for Pyra, but how does this going to Elysium suggest that he loves them both?

girlDog
girlDog

explain.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Actually Rex loves Bana.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

So are Tantalese people half-spider or something?

eGremlin
eGremlin

We got time. spill it.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

He's mostly doing it for Pyra
Then why do you have the option to choose Mythra? We all know that if Rex had to choose he would choose Pyra but the fact that you can choose Mythra shows that it doesn't matter because they are the same.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Not really, Rex didn't make that choice. You did. Perhaps you would like to explain why you think Rex would love Mythra over Pyra?

Nojokur
Nojokur

Who the fuck said XC1 and XC2 were unrelated? This nigger is the other half of Zanza

Illusionz
Illusionz

To me that moment was one rare example where role playing actually applied to this Role Playing Game. I thought who it would make more sense for Rex to choose, and of course that's Pyra.

Spamalot
Spamalot

She has 0 H2H with Rex
For the other half of the main female lead, she had very little interactions with the male lead. Mythra is just sort of there. They could've just swapped in Pneuma and wrote Mythra out.

girlDog
girlDog

Takahashi.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

trusting his lies
You don't have to beat the main story to enjoy the DLC!

viagrandad
viagrandad

Pneuma being schizophrenic explains a lot.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Okay, well. That's fine. Rex loves Pyra over Mythra. Congratulations. That means the ending is not a threesome since he's only in love with one of them.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

he truly rused everyone who was stupid enough to think he wouldn't expand on the whole Alvis/other world matter

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

That guy answered for me lol. Mythra literally tells you that it doesn't matter who you choose because they are the same. Why would you go against the script user ?

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Even with the mega deep Japanese voice, who in their right mind would think that raven-haired beauty is a man?

Inmate
Inmate

Translation please

SniperWish
SniperWish

Author clearly pushes Pyra, storywise probably Mythra is still involved in Addam but marketing wise it is better not to disappoint customers.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Actually, that's not what she said at all. In the Japanese script, she said
Call it whatever you like. Be it Pyra or Mythra.
And Rex chose the name that meant the most to him.
Why are you going against the script?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

b-but they are the same!
yet they literally split at the end

Soft_member
Soft_member

What if Amalthus awakened Mythra first?

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

In case you can't tell, he's a shitposter from /v/.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

I don't think they are the same. Even if they say so themselves I still think they are not the same. What I do think Is that Rex loves them both and they both love Rex.

Illusionz
Illusionz

le yandere pyra meemay

iluvmen
iluvmen

It'd be logical to only the one you choose to come back at the end or at least not to split like that.
I really want to know if anyone considered Mythra a legit choice waifufagging aside tho.

hairygrape
hairygrape

He couldn't have. Malos said he can't use that core.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Really though, are you going to tell Indol what they can and cannot do?

Soft_member
Soft_member

No uterus intercourse, no love

takes2long
takes2long

aside from waifufagging
No. Unless you consider those people who picked Mythra not knowing the choice was literally about who Rex ultimately has feelings for.
I don't understand why people have this obsession for sad endings for the sake of having sad endings. Rex's journey was to help the two of them find a place in the world and a reason to exist. Why would only one of them find it while the other was left to die? Does who Rex loves between the two of them really matter that much?

Methnerd
Methnerd

When is it implied that that choice was about who Rex has feelings for ? Your head canon doesn't count

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

She's the girl you love. You got to accept her decision.
That's from Zeke.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

You will never tug on Vess' breast.
Why even live?

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

good, Vess was a mistake

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

really matter
Yes because I am not going to tolerate shitty writing. The ending as well as the stupid choice were a major disappointment. I don't mind that the ending itself is happy tho.
Either make me believe that both girls are in fact the same person and the choice doesn't matter or make a distinct development with both of them and not fucking make Rex drool all over Pyra 95% of the game and then somehow realize that Mythra is the one.

iluvmen
iluvmen

Explain this heresy.

StonedTime
StonedTime

Because they all thought they were one. Only Rex understands.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Because you roleplay as Rex in this roleplaying game and that's what the player decides as him.

whereismyname
whereismyname

anyone willing to translate this

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

truth is a heresy
Even her owner was so glad someone took the bait he died asap to finally pass her

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Some people spend over 300 hours and still nothing. Apologize

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Either make me believe that both girls are in fact the same person
They're the not the same person though. The game spends seven chapters telling you this.

not fucking make Rex drool all over Pyra 95% of the game and then somehow realize that Mythra is the one
That's exactly what the game did? Pick Pyra for the choice then since it's the one that makes the most sense given his interactions with the pair. Why are you this angry?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

I've yet to see examples of people who picked Mythra and did this not with their dick.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

user, are you "some people?"

farquit
farquit

I thought Mythra was cooler

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

You make the choice, yes but it's not implied that there is a deeper meaning to that choice.

Emberburn
Emberburn

I hate how hot Morag is. She's just so perfect

WebTool
WebTool

The choice means the same to Rex in the moment as it does to the player. If the player believes that he chooses whoever he loves most, then that's what it effectively means. Like you said, there's nothing to indicate otherwise.

Snarelure
Snarelure

No, She was my 8th rare, 81 common cores and 7 rare cores into the game in chapter 4.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

I really don't get why people think the choice was unimportant given how it looks and the fact that there's no option to change it to the other one.

SniperGod
SniperGod

Sorry but mental gymnastics won't convince me that the Mythra choice wasn't rushed or added for sole pr reason.They used two titty monsters in all promotion materials for a reason at the end of the day.
I am just sad that Takahashi didn't come up with a better resolution. Nia got cucked and Mythra stayed irrelevant.

Illusionz
Illusionz

I hate open endings and shit where the player is supposed to imagine shit. What a way to fuck a great game. I'd really love the ending if Rex ended up with both but I don't mind if he only loves one of them. What it's driving crazy is that there are no facts here. There is enough evidence to sustain multiple endings and choices having different meanings. Geez

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

I too believe that choosing Mythra for that choice makes literally zero in the context of the story as well in regards to Rex's motivations. You don't need high grade goggles to see that Pyra meant more to Rex than anyone else in the party in the previous seven chapters, even Mythra. But only the director knows why the choice was there. Let's just give him the benefit of the doubt instead of assuming things and choosing the one that makes the most sense.

if he only loves one of them
That's exactly what the ending implies though? Why do you think the choice in chapter 8 exists?

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Well it's not really that open. The question is whether it is a threesome or not. And the only evidence towards threesome is the fucking title screen.

viagrandad
viagrandad

for

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

The title screen and spending the whole fucking game sharing body, mind and feelings.

takes2long
takes2long

The choice is there so you, the player, can choose which girl you like better. Like picking a Pokemon version. Or Rei vs Asuka.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

this

Mythra has the bigger dps so she gets priority

Spamalot
Spamalot

So you're saying that Rex isn't a character, but just a self insert?
You'll excuse me if I'm not taking your seriously then.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Pyra is the waifu.
Mythra is a tool.
Get over it.

RumChicken
RumChicken

Besides choosing a name for Pneuma nobody knows what's the meaning of that choice because the game doesn't tell you anything.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

What does that have to do with anything when Pyra and Mythra are clearly individuals in their own right like what the game is telling you? Arguing that Rex loves both of them because of a title screen seems odd to me given all the developments that happened throughout the game since you don't have to be romantically involved with someone to hold hands with them.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

No, that's not what I said at all. I said that particular choice exists for the player's benefit. There are already a bunch of choices in this game that exists clearly for the player, yet affects the characters as their own entities, so I don't see why this concept is so hard to grasp. You have HtH dialogue and quest decisions where you can make characters say particular things. The choice is made by the player which, as the controlling entity behind the characters, affect their decisions. Have you never played an RPG before? You do realize these characters aren't real and have no decisions of their own within the context of the real world, and exist only to serve as a vehicle for the players to experience an interactive story, right? Within the context of an RPG's narrative the player's decisions become the character's decisions, even if they have their own fleshed out personalities. This is basic shit.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Because Zeke literally said
She's the girl you love
In the singular form. Zeke couldn't have been talking about their fused form because if you remember back to the conversation on the boat to Indol, Zeke of all people in the party sees Pyra and Mythra as different individuals. If he wanted to imply he's talking about both, then he would have used
they're the girls you love
Gramps, Zeke, and everyone during that scene clearly considered it as a wish from the girl Rex loves, again, in the singular form. Everyone in the party addresses their fusion form by that name. There is zero ambiguity there. It also makes no sense for Rex to love both of them yet only use a single name during that emotional part. Rex made a choice between the two of them, he is literally placing one of them above the other because the girl whose name he chose meant something to him more than the other one. Zeke outright said that it's love.
In addition, One Last You is sung from the viewpoint of a single person. That person is the girl whose name Rex chose judging by her final phrase. Again, only the girl whose name you chose utters the phrase we cannot hear. Why would only one say it if it was implying Rex loves both of them?
Then again, And thus, Boy met Girl. Again, singular version. Pyra and Mythra are in separate bodies. You can't even use the
they're the same person because they share a single body
argument anymore.

askme
askme

Just got zeke in xbc2. What should I do about muh blade resonation? I can go into specifics,
But i have two healers plus a few attackers on rex
Two lolihammer tanks on nia
And wulfric, vale, and boreas on morag

Halp

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

First, for Japanese people holding hands is a big deal. Second, what makes you think that they are two individuals ? They say they are 2 sides of the same coin, what makes you think that? "The development throughout the story" is too vague of an answer.

Emberburn
Emberburn

Open crystals on Zeke hoping to get Dagas/Zenobia/Perun/KOS-MOS and then look at what he got. If he didn't get anything good transfer Wulfric on him. He can get Herald soon and that's going to be amazing on him; also you can give him Sheba as well or Praxis.

5mileys
5mileys

Do i have to have tora/nia on my team if i truly need healers/tanks? Can i just rely on tank/healer blades rather than alotting a whole character to a role?

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Roll 30 rares on Morag
Nothing
Out of booster
Have 2 rares left, roll on Zeke
Got finch

Is this the power of Zeke V Ultimate Genbu sama.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Also i have zenobia on rex and finch on nia. If i release them, can I roll them again?

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Robots>waifus

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Robot waifus>*

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

I wish XCX was on Switch so I wouldn't feel bad about my Wii U being dead

SniperWish
SniperWish

what makes you think that they are two individuals
Unless Mythra is mentally ill and the whole story was a deep psychological drama, Pyra and her talking with each other is enough to prove that.
Even though they have shared memories they also know whose memories are whos. And after Pyra had her first different personal experience from Mythra she should be considered an individual anyway.

Soft_member
Soft_member

not feeling bad when xcx port makes WiiU even more dead than it already is

iluvmen
iluvmen

Well, I think the same as you but they are not completely separated individuals. They share feelings, like when Pyra cried when gramps told her that Rex reminded her of Addam. Why would Pyra cry if she only knew Addam through Mythra's memory aside from a few minutes before being sealed ? I'm pretty sure they both share their love for Rex.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Why would Pyra cry
Because the shit is tragic and she knows that it won't end well for Rex.

SniperGod
SniperGod

Was anyone else just pissed off how no one was really on Rex's side during his conversation with Pyra Verde during that ending part? Everyone was just telling him to get over it and accept her decision when Pyra kind of just tricked him into a situation where he just had to watch her die.
Felt like a shitty below belt to me.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Why won’t Rex fucking HEAL!? I always have to play him because he refuses to switch to a healing blade and use a recovery art unless I’m playing him for fuck’s sake. I can never tank because of this dumb shounen shitbag.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Why the fuck did they think it was a good idea to let an alien decide humanity's future anyways? I would have felt really shitty Elma hid that from everyone.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

I can almost guarantee it’ll get a port at some point, just be patient

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Because Rex isn't a fucking healer? Why are you telling Rex to heal when Nia is there?

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

because everyone would be fucking dead if she didn't help

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Why are you telling Rex to heal when Nia is there?
He has Blade Nia, one of those most OP healing blades in the game.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

So about that pee story Pyra wanted to hear...

massdebater
massdebater

Even though they have shared memories
And even then Pyra doesn't always remember everything that Mythra did.

idontknow
idontknow

user, one healing blade isn't fucking enough since the AI will prioritize elemental combos above everything else. If you need a fire combo, Rex will stay on Pyra until the element wears off.
If you want a half decent healer, use Nia and give her two Bitballs. Or just play Rex yourself. Even with blade Nia, Rex is only there for emergency heals.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Because since when have humans made good choices?

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

I like to think than both of them live a happy life with Rex like the dinner dream scene.

Emberburn
Emberburn

Well, I'd rather die on my own terms than let some alien decide all of humanity's future.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

What's the best build for lategame Morag?
I currently have Brighid, Aegeon and Theory on her but she's not holding aggro.
My other Tank Blades are Godfrey, Perceval, Electra and Kasandra.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Are you still using Pentagon chips?

StonedTime
StonedTime

Yes.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Another proof for the threesome ending. My nigga !

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

not wanting a nice future with a cute ayy
what a fag

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Well, found your problem. Stop being retarded. What makes you think that 50 Agility will do anything if Morag isn't even doing enough damage to draw aggro in the first place?

Firespawn
Firespawn

is there a point where you get an upgrade that lets you jump higher or father or something?
a couple sidequests like the mysterious note or the one where you have to check the nopon murals are in places that I can't figure out how to get to, they're either too high or in the middle of a pond too far to jump to

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

There are airflows or diving points that let you get there. Look around

RumChicken
RumChicken

If you can't jump there normally then you usually need to pass a field check somewhere nearby or get momentum from going down a slide to make the jump.

MPmaster
MPmaster

Mythra got cucked by her own Tulpa
I don't know how I should feel about this.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

she got cucked by unnamed Addam's wife anyway so thats 2 times already

DeathDog
DeathDog

a fire blade is good at making fires
No fucking shit rex. This and that cloudy comment killed me.

cum2soon
cum2soon

You missed the point

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

I did some testing on specials and it turns out that the number of red skills unlocked for the special determines the level of the special. 1 node unlocked means level 1, 5 nodes unlocked means level 5. Just like leveling up Driver Arts increases their damage ratios, unlocking the red skills levels up the special and increases their hidden damage ratio value. This is also why Poppi has 5 levels for her specials on the charts.

Tested with Boreas since he has easy red skills to unlock. With his base chip equipped, damage of his first special went from 2600 with first level of red skill, to 4000 something with level 5 unlocked. Entering Max Affinity also raises the level of the special just like it does for driver arts, increasing its ratio. I think it caps at level 5, and not 6 though. Originally I thought the in game tip for max affinity was referring to 4th special becoming usable but it seems they meant these hidden levels and ratios.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

I don't see any for where I need to get to with the mysterious note
how the fuck to you get to that island or whatever

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

which driver has the fastest launch and smash?
rex has a fast smash but is only limited to Roc.

SniperGod
SniperGod

Rex with Pandy and Roc probably?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

This is a cat from warrior tribe, say something nice about her

Playboyize
Playboyize

she's getting barded by Ga Jiarg

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

If we get XCX2 we better get a cat party member.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

She was stuck in a poorly done plot

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Give her to Nia give Morag Zenobia.

Booteefool
Booteefool

It's cute how so much fanart is drawn by women.
Mòrag is so いけめん

SniperGod
SniperGod

Rex got cucked by Addam :(

w8t4u
w8t4u

So what did Pyra want Rex to know in the end?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

KOS-MOS
Ursula

Makes me mad tbqh. I put 200 hours into the game and the only blades I had missing were

KOS-MOS
Agate
Ursula
Zenobia

Now I'm about 230 hours in and I still can't get my final blade, Agate.

hairygrape
hairygrape

He got cucked by a lot of people. Addam, Jin, Amaltheus....later also Zake.

iluvmen
iluvmen

That she's carrying Jin's child.

JunkTop
JunkTop

XCX shows all these races in a plot around joining up with other races to survive
Party consists of mostly humanbots.

RumChicken
RumChicken

I LOVE THE ZEKENATOR AND SO DO YOU!!!!!!!!

Also where do I find poisonous gorgs for Wulfric's affinity chart?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Pyra was meant for breeding it's Rex's own fault that he didn't jump to it the moment he woke her.

TreeEater
TreeEater

the White Whale is apparently only for rich and corrupt people
filled to the brim with criminals and murderers
?????????

Snarelure
Snarelure

How many rare blades have you found from common cores?

I got Agate on Zeke and Perceval on Mòrag, so far.
Meanwhile any super virtue charged rare (and probably legendary in the future) core always gave me common blades...

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

I've had 3 rares from commons
By comparison, I've only had 1 rare blade show up from a Legendary

King_Martha
King_Martha

he was so nice that he waited for her to take the initiative that he got cucked more acertive people hell even Malos buster her so hard she couldn't even move for a whole chapter

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

tfw just restarted my game at 50 hours because nia had all my rare blades yet no healers other than common chakram dogs

Firespawn
Firespawn

So which one is Rex's true love?

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

how bored are we that this keeps getting posted every thread and we keep replying

Flameblow
Flameblow

Gramps. Now that he's a dragon again rex doesn't have to worry about paying rent anymore.

viagrandad
viagrandad

Ran out of Overdrive Protocols? Rex could've used all those rare blades on Nia anyways.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Nah he kicks him out after seeing him making millions without even needing him

SniperGod
SniperGod

It's an eternal question with no concrete answer and offers different perspectives from those who do answer.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Rex gets three story blades
Nia can only be useful with healers
All cores used before morag and zeke are a waste.

whereismyname
whereismyname

Both.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Okay, how about this. /xgg/, which Rare Blades fit with which Drivers the best based on their personalities/potential interactions, not gameplay?

Bidwell
Bidwell

But love is a complex thing. Who is to say that Rex only loved Pyra as his mother and actually loved Mythra romantically?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

What conversation might they be having?

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

if there were two guys on the moon and one of them killed the other with a rock would that be fucked up or what

StonedTime
StonedTime

Gramps telling him to pay rent.

WebTool
WebTool

Rex gets three story blades
And everything else including everyone else's main character blades
Nia can only be useful with healers
Wrong-o she makes good use Ether canons as well and honestly anyone can be anything thanks to the above spoiler.
All cores used before morag and zeke are a waste.
Where are you getting this from? Even if you do the autismchallenge and try to nab all rare blades before you leave Gormott there are still a number of sidequest exclusive cores later in game to toss on them that works well and, in Morag's case, the only blades she needs.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

I hate this thing that he got cucked so many times. Make me feel cucked as well

JunkTop
JunkTop

how she does w/ ether cannons
I always assumed Zeke was best with those

iluvmen
iluvmen

She's the girl you love
But what is love?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

baby don't hurt me

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

So eventually overdrive protocol is useless? I just wanna make sure i dont underheal and die against single lowerlevel enemies

Inmate
Inmate

As long as Nia has two rare blade healers you'll be fine.

Supergrass
Supergrass

What is free love?

SniperWish
SniperWish

The main difference comes from the driver arts

Nia

Adds 50/50/70/70/100% to damage ratio after canceling an auto-attack 180/220/260/300/340
Adds 50/50/70/70/100% to annul defense 300/340/380/420/460
Increases damage dealt to launched enemies by 100/100/120/120/150%. 220/260/300/340/380
Increases damage dealt by 100/100/120/120/150% when HP is 90% or higher 108/130/150/170/190

Zeke

Adds 50/50/70/70/100% to damage ratio after canceling an auto-attack. 108/130/150/170/190
Adds 50/50/70/70/100% chance to annul defense. 300/340/380/420/460
Increases damage dealt to launched enemies by 100/100/120/120/150%. 220/260/300/340/380
No special effects (Knockback) 300/340/380/420/460

Of the four, the increased launched enemies move is the one that shouldnt be used. Nia's moves all beat or are equal to Zeke's in addition to her slightly higher ether

Methnerd
Methnerd

I really wish they could have developed the relationship between Pyra and Mythra a little bit more. We're just told that the two of them are apparently sisters and that's pretty much it.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

It's a good game but the lacks of development makes me regret a bit about having bought it

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

is it just me or was tyrannotitan kurodil like super easy despite the fact that he's the strongest enemy? I easily beat him on my first real try when I wasn't even level 99 yet

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Did anyone ever beat stage 5 of tiger tiger with a pacifist perfect run?

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

I. Chapter 8 when tells Mythra that he kinda prefers ponytail she replied "you jerk". In japanese she calls him baka instead?

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

I'm having trouble triggering Dagas' Heart to Heart. I've got Rex as his driver, and I'm told to "Speak to Dagasa at the inn in Argentum". But I'm not sure how to trigger that cutscene. I've stayed at the inn with him in and out of my party.

What do I do?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

I loved this game but rewatching the cutscenes during chapter 6 ending I can't stop laughing my ass off at what Jin pulls off, including his body shining like he's a vampire from twilight

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Rex*

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

When the hell is the next update?

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

31st at 11:59PM EST

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

probably. same thing

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Are there any doujins for sale? I saw a screencap of something once next to Pokemon in some thread, but I haven't been able to find the same listing since. Just a Pyra and Mythra doujin, but I don't want to go through the bother of importing for one thing.

TechHater
TechHater

I-I guess I should have never overdrived KOSMOS to Zeke then. rip

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

There are 2 released, 1 scanned, 1 translated
2 in progress afaik

RavySnake
RavySnake

I only found the pyra and mythra one in english. Where can I find the others?

Soft_member
Soft_member

Nowhere

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

find them in Japan

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

What about the 2 in progress? Where were those announced?

Firespawn
Firespawn

There's one with Praxis
One is just a guess but the artist for the pyra/mythra one posted a sketch of Blade Nia

StonedTime
StonedTime

I probably will.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

depends on how retarded you are
Apparently /xgg/ opinion on the subject differs from le /v/ and le reddit so this question will come up every fucking day until some hard proof will be found.
Who is to say
literally no one

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

imagine Blade Runner 2049, but Blades as replicants in a world where the first Blade baby is born.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

What makes Zenobia so good? I rolled her on Morag by accident, but I supposed I can get her affinity chart up and use her on Rex whenever I feel like to be on a dps char (or maybe she's good on morag IDK).

I keep seeing that she's the most OP dps in the game but not sure why

MPmaster
MPmaster

Look at her affinities

RumChicken
RumChicken

I'm planning on overdriving the lesbian mermaid to Nia. She's already got KOSMOS, does Nia count towards the female harem buff?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Adding to this, there's that Tora X Dromarch one and I've also seen one of those sample images with doujin prices and covers with Roc on one of them so apparently that exists.

A few more Pyra ones being made too. Two of them seem to be just regular old sex with Rex and one has Bana of all characters.

TreeEater
TreeEater

They're near the poisonous pools of liquid at Uraya Head. Skip travel to the second point and head down the ramp. There should be one up ahead and one behind you. Just keep warping there to respawn them.

Methnerd
Methnerd

She is basically Mythra with her spamable crit refresh ability plus she hits hard as fuck. You can pretty much solo any boss in the game using crit heal build. Same with KOSMOS Nia.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Will she fine on morag or should I equip her on to Rex since he can hold anything?

I only have one overdrive left so kinda holding off on using it.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

It's been a while since I played XCX, but it seems pretty feasible to imagine that some criminals could have gotten on through some shady methods, right? It's a matter of life or death after all.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

Never overdrive a blade to Rex since he can use every blade. If you have her on Morag keep her with Morag. She uses her best anyhow. She's fine with Zeke too.

w8t4u
w8t4u

tfw have gone through 70 commons and 40 rares
tfw released 4 rare healers
still no healers on nia
It should be statistically impossible, yea?

Techpill
Techpill

Well I wouldn't OD something to Rex, just engage it to him.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

I promise, I won't let the world burn a second time! So please, STAND WITH MEEEEEE!

How can XC1 possibly compete?

DeathDog
DeathDog

Also
tfw released all but a handful of my rare blades out of role frustration
highly considering starting over

massdebater
massdebater

Yeah at lvl 5 its +30% for each female currently active on the field so it has a potential to be +120% from Morag + female and tora + poppi, in addition to Nia

likme
likme

roc
bana
Show proofs.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Really an axe on Morag is best? I've only ever seen her used as a straight agi tank. Never saw her built for DPS.

whereismyname
whereismyname

tfw i just use whatever the fuck i want cause the game isnt that hard at any point anyway

I made my Morag a DPS since she's the one I primarily want to play as. I have Zenobia, Praxis, and Vale on her and it works perfectly fine.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Wait, Zenobia has a crit refresh? Where? I don't see it on her skills?

MPmaster
MPmaster

Sorry, didn't think to save the images for proof. The Roc image was posted on /v/ a few weeks ago and the Bana/Pyra I found on Twitter at around the same time.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Each Driver has a crit refresh art

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

It's a great axe thing, they all have it. Zenobia is just the best with it because of how high her damage can get. For most, it's a two hit art, Nia has a three hit art.

likme
likme

good taste

RavySnake
RavySnake

Isn't the crit art on rex his 4th skill that like rng activates?

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

What are the best three Catalyst Scimitar arts and which should I focus WP on? Want to main blade Nia, she's a CUTE

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Most people refuse to go out of their comfort zone. Axes are basically the same thing on every character, with the biggest difference being the speed and amount of hits with the crit recharge art, Zeke getting topple, and Rex getting Launch. Because Zenobia does absolutely retarded damage, she'll be stealing aggro away constantly, so putting her on Morag will actually help her tank more effectively, especially when combined with avant-garde medals. The main reason everyone puts her on Zeke is because of unique dialogue and similar poses.

SniperGod
SniperGod

Man does Zeke get the most dialogue with every blade? I feel like everyone puts everything on him

StonedTime
StonedTime

The main reason everyone puts her on Zeke is because of unique dialogue and similar poses.
It's actually because of Zeke's marginally higher strength than the rest of the playable characters but yes the swimming thing helps a lot.

Evilember
Evilember

Water Flower and Hydro Blast if you want pure damage. Saber Slash does some pretty good, but it's a long animation and most of the time the potions aren't needed since the passives and Redemption are just that good.

JunkTop
JunkTop

Current setup
Rex with Pyra/Mythra, Gorg and Roc
Morag with Brighid, Theory and Perceval

Which healer blades would be the best on Nia for this comp? I have all of the healers unlocked.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

my niggga

idontknow
idontknow

What's the point of having two waifus if they can't bear your children

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

Floren and Vess for their elements and then whatever you feel like. Ursula is great on switch and KOSMOS heals the whole party with her level 2 special. Or Dromarch still. Nothing wrong with heelin hayyylow or double water.

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

So now that we have the ether blossom dance of the game, are you working for any specific build? I'm trying to see how far I can go with Electra spike damage

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

You don't really care about this when you are 15

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

wish I could play XCX

farquit
farquit

Is there any reason to not level up everyone to max at the inn every time?

viagrandad
viagrandad

If you have autism and need everyone's level to match, or if you don't wan to level up for some reason.

Inmate
Inmate

The game is easy enough, you want to make it even less challenging? That's the only reason.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

I wish I had paid attention to X threads back in the day. I'm pretty sure the way I played the game was entirely inefficient, especially for bosses. But I fucking loved servant sacrifice to end battles quickly.
Makes the game extra easy. And gives you less "Level up" flashes in battle if you're into that.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

Why does the block rate on Brighid's initial weapon need to be so damn high?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Nia can only be useful with healers

w8t4u
w8t4u

unless you want muh challenge then no

King_Martha
King_Martha

The problem with X unique monsters is that most debuffs are pratically useless and if you want to make them work you need debuff augments.

Emberfire
Emberfire

Reminder to feed Praxis cake!

likme
likme

making morag a heal slut

mhmmm yes this is fine.

Nojokur
Nojokur

You don't want retarded children. Rex is already a retard himself so he needs a girl that isn't retarded like Pyra and Mythra.

Inmate
Inmate

Getting slapped around by the tank when she ruins a raid !!
Craving the approval so the beefy tank doesn't leave her !!

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

working on Dagas' afinnity still
needs to use his level 1 special 26 times for this last node
19 times for the second to last level 2 node
12 times for the middle level 3 node
This guy has been nothing but a pain in the ass. It doesn't help that his specials all suck too. Level 4 looks great but they're so slow and weak.
Yeah that's a problem I ran into bosses. I could debuff them consistently but without minions to control or being able to kill them for my own gains my DPS was pretty booty.

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

that's because all axe users suck except zenobia

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Ridiculous passive boost
Ok passive boost
Defensive passive boost
Only axe that sucks is Gorg.

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

Can we agree he did nothing wrong?

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

He's a fool who repeated the same mistakes done to him.
All this time he was cursing the world, when he was exactly the same.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Better character than Rex desu

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

The genocidal antagonist who wanted everyone to worship him as a god did nothing wrong because he had a sad backstory :(
I hate this meme.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Well he was right about humans being horrible and his hatred for the world was justified.

He didn't want people to worship him he just wanted to be an "agent of god's will."

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

massive level 89 flying dragonsquids all over the place
level 81 krabs and roaches and sharks
weather clears up randomly and finally Tirkins show up in Tirkinlandia
Stupid game. AND I just did a level 6 fire level 7 electric check for literally nothing to happen after the snow melted.

RavySnake
RavySnake

do I have any reason not to do the final battle? Just got there and I'm already quite overleveled. There was a pop up warning me about the final boss which was nice.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Just send him to the Ursula mercenary missions, it's the fastest way to unlock nodes in the affinity chart after you have enough trust. You can run one in 5-7 minutes and level a couple of nodes each time.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

When you load your save after you beat the final boss it just puts you back at the door to the fight with a medal on your save file.
So yes there's no reason to not fight it.

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

I finished those already desu.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Thanks. I'll take the pop-up as a warning to get myself a drink for the inevitable post bost cinema

TreeEater
TreeEater

HEELIN HAYYLOW
HEELIN CYKA
tfw Nia is secretly Russian

Also, is Floren better than Nim? I get that Floren has an Ether modifier but I like Nim's healing specials and fusion combo bonuses. Both look really good though, not gonna lie. I've also heard some people prefer Kora over Vess, but her blade arts and battle skills are awful. The only thing Kora has over Vess is an Ether modifier. I will admit that Knuckle Claws are the worst weapon for healing, the only heal art they have is the one that drops a potion or two. Their only saving grace is that they do more damage and have access to Launch, but if you have Topple/Launch/Smash on Rex (Which you should ideally have, because even a common greataxe is worth it for having complete control over driver combos) then it's kinda pointless.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

You can still send people on Ursula's quests even if you finished her quest and have 99 of every stamp.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

The thing is you can redo those merc missions to level up your other blades. First you stuff your newly acquired rare blade with 600 pieces of meat to max their trust, then you send them to Ursula missions.

Emberburn
Emberburn

I might have to do that. I'm currently using him because Zeke doesn't have a darkie to complete the team and his affinity quest requires being where I am anyway.
Speaking of which, are there really only 3 quick travel points in the lower level of Tantal? I've gone around this entire circle and only found 3.
Not gonna lie I forgot that Nim and Kora are healers. They would also work, yeah. Kora heals you while you move so that's cool but I don't know what Nim has over Floren. Multiple knuckle users probably isn't the best option on your dedicated healer though, since their healing arts are shit compared to rings/bitball.

Firespawn
Firespawn

Speaking of which, are there really only 3 quick travel points in the lower level of Tantal? I've gone around this entire circle and only found 3.
I think there are 5, maybe 4. I remember one in the middle and one towards in each cardinal direction.

Illusionz
Illusionz

If I use Nim I'd have one knuckle user on Nia, if I use Floren I'd have no knuckles. I still can't decide who I wanna use more, but I'll give Floren a chance for a little while.

girlDog
girlDog

Nim has a level 1 and 3 teamheal and gives Nia Launch

RumChicken
RumChicken

I found a fourth one where the story wants me to go but haven't seen any to the south yet. Hrm.
jump into the crevice
level 80 enemies are still in there despite clear weather
Lesson LEARNED.
One knuckle is worth it for the driver combo alone. I was trying to suggest not using a combination of both Nim and Kora.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

totally disagree.

She's the girl you love In the singular form.

It's in the singular because it's one person since Mythra and Pyra are the same person. It's only one person which is Pneuma (Pyra/Mythra)

Zeke couldn't have been talking about their fused form because if you remember back to the conversation on the boat to Indol, Zeke of all people in the party sees Pyra and Mythra as different individuals.

When Zeke talks with Rex on the boat from Indol to Tantal, it's when Zeke learns that it's impossible for Rex to see Pyra and Mythra as different beings since it's the same person.

If he wanted to imply he's talking about both, then he would have used they're the girls you love Gramps, Zeke, and everyone during that scene clearly considered it as a wish from the girl Rex loves, again, in the singular form.

Again, it is the singular because it's a single person, Pneuma, Pyra/Mythra = Pneuma. Pneuma is the original being, Mythra came from Pneuma and Pyra came from Mythra, they are two personas of the same person.

If Zeke had used plural it would imply that they are two different beings, two different beings which isn't the case once Pyra/Mythra/Pneuma are the same person and so the singular.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Rex made a choice between the two of them, he is literally placing one of them above the other because the girl whose name he chose meant something to him more than the other one.

Pay attention in the context of the narrative, the player can choose the personal preference of the player himself:

Rex: Which... one of you is in that form? Deep down.

Mythra: It's not one or the other... it's both at once.

Rex: So you're... Pythra? Myra?

Mythra: It doesn't matter. Pyra, Mythra, they're both me. Call me wichever.

And then the choose.

They're both Pneuma. The choice only affects which name will be used in Pneuma form and for the preference of the player which one will say the words at the end. The choice doesn't affect Rex's feelings towards Pyra/Mythra and neither Mythra/Pyra's feelings towards Rex, they're the same person no matter who the player chooses nothing will change.

And thus, Boy met Girl. Again, singular version.

Yes, singular version because it's a single person. Boy (Rex) Met Girl (Mythra/Pyra/Pneuma). If it were in the plural, then they would be different beings, but since both are the same person there is no plural at all. Like I said, Pneuma is the original being, Pyra/Mythra they're both Pneuma, both have the same feelings, memories and thoughts.

Now is my question, why do some people try to prove something that the narrative of the plot was quite clear in establish?

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Not as long as they control the world's supply of super replicants

5mileys
5mileys

here we go again.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

As long as I still live this will never end boi.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Left or right?

Illusionz
Illusionz

Left

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

neither

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

since both are the same person
both have the same feelings, memories and thoughts.
Yeah yeah, then why the fuck Pyra literally talks to Mythra and they make decisions separately from each other? And in the end there are 2 clones of them, right?
You are delusional as fuck.

Techpill
Techpill

Right

SniperWish
SniperWish

If you open this door, there will be no turning back. Falling in battle will mean restarting from the title screen.
Your game will be saved before the final fight begins.
Begin the final battle?

So wait, what happens after I beat the final boss? Will I just reload back to where I was right before the fight? Does Xenoblade Chronicles 2 literally have no postgame content?

XC2 is getting a New Game+ DLC but the developers can't do proper postgame content
Meanwhile XCX had an actual postgame
Games that end after the final boss should be fucking ancient relics of the past, but game developers haven't learned to uphold good, modern standards
"Hurr durr just fast travel away from the gates that lead to the final boss to do everything you didn't do yet while the entire fucking world is ending before your very eyes"

This nonsense is unacceptable.

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

He can't suspend his disbelief
XBC 1 didn't have a postgame either. There was still stuff to do after the final boss, just like in XBC2

Flameblow
Flameblow

You return to the room next to the boss room but with the earnings of the boss battle. You can retry the final boss as many times as you want for XP.

RavySnake
RavySnake

It was the best part of the game. Leaves it mysterious, and is actually okay unlike the game's writing.

Nojokur
Nojokur

Can we agree that he did everything right?

Emberburn
Emberburn

This is now a Malos appreciation thread.

Snarelure
Snarelure

Why the hell wasn't it already?

Evilember
Evilember

XC1
Didn't have a postgame
Old ass game from last decade

XCX
Had a postgame
Also had online multiplayer and competitive raiding
Felt very interactive even for a game that was mostly singleplayer
Much newer game, not even 3 years old yet

XC2
Doesn't have a postgame
Doesn't have multiplayer
Zero interactivity whatsoever
Fresh game, came out a month ago
People will defend this devolution and faggotry

There is no excuse for taking one step forward and then two steps back. Zero. Fucking. Excuses. Don't get me wrong, I love XC2 but holy fucking hell I was not expecting a bomb this huge to drop at the very end of the game. If I was reviewing the game this would be an immediate -2 points.

shitposting this hard

/v/

Does it even drop anything good, then? Or is it just for muh xp?

Inmate
Inmate

no

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

What happens in Leftheria if you take the right path instead of the left path? Do the cutscenes in the cloud sea tunnel and Fonset have the same dialogue but in a different place?

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

Does it even drop anything good, then? Or is it just for muh xp?

You just level up one level each time you beat it but it's boring AF. You're better off killing the T Rexes in Temperantia.

Firespawn
Firespawn

Well, I'm glad you're not reviewing it then. It's not in the same vein as X, deliberately so. It's like final fantasy numbers, they don't mean anything. Wait for X2 if you want more miralike shit.

askme
askme

Are you questioning Chad, loser?

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

They don't make decisions separately wtf ? Did you even play the game ? Also, the game doesn't explain why they are separated in the end, you can guess but it's only head canon.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

shitposting
Game literally has Amalthus as a plottwist after you're aware he stole Fan's crystal
/v/ care too much about Dahlia tiddies and waifus to know about the horrible writing of this game.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

losing to a kid with a bigger dick
chad

RavySnake
RavySnake

I got 130 hours from XC, doing all quests and killing all super bosses.
240 hours from XCX, getting 100% survey and killing all super bosses.
320 hours from XC2 (pre DLC), doing all quests and killing all super bosses.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

the mad man actually did it

Illusionz
Illusionz

Nice.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

Stop dodging the main argument of Pyra and Mythra literally talking with each other the whole game ffs.
They don't even share all of the memories, for example, Pyra didn't remember what Mythra said to Brighid long ago while Mythra says that she remembers.
They don't make decisions separately wtf ?
Again, in ch. 5 during Fan's funeral, Nia asks Mythra why she isn't standing with Rex and that Pyra would do this. Mythra answers that it's actually Pyra's idea to stay behind.

RumChicken
RumChicken

Anyone has the picture of morag floating sideways?

viagrandad
viagrandad

I just bought XC2 today, how long until the Buyer's Remorse kicks in?

askme
askme

You tryin' to start somethin', huh punk?

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Until you start farming for that last rare blade

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Not killing Rex before he bonded with the Aegis
Obeying Jin and not giving chase for the Aegis
Other than that he was a good boy.

WebTool
WebTool

This is a better response:

Yeah yeah, then why the fuck Pyra literally talks to Mythra and they make decisions separately from each other?

a very poor response by the way.

Because they both think for themselves, and that doesn't mean they are different beings at all.

There's no explanation why at the end both were separated which also doesn't affect what the plot established. Nothing will change the fact they're both Pneuma.

If you don't like the idea that Pyra/Mythra are the same person, you can complain to Takahashi or to Soraya Saga, who on Twitter already said that Pyra and Mythra are actually the same person. Those who understood the narrative know that quite well.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

you have to eat all of the cake

DeathDog
DeathDog

What are you even doing in this thread, you're only ruining the game for yourself with all the spoilers posted here.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Thanks.

SniperWish
SniperWish

Sad backstory means shit to me if you're a piece of shit now. Malos deserves better than him.

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

Well, I'm glad you're not reviewing it then

To be fair, reviews are a fucking joke these days. They're absolute trash, 9 out of 10 times they're made by a "Gaming Journalist™" that doesn't play video games. People that work for garbage review sites and get paid to make reviews, because the owners of said review sites get paid by game companies to give their games a good review.

Wait for X2 if you want more miralike shit

You bet your ass I'm hyped for XCX2. Game ended on a sequel bait cliffhanger, shit sucked. Game was 10/10 though.

hurr durr the writing sucks and if you disagree you're from /v/

I will admit that literally every plot twist being DUDE FLESH EATERS LMAO is stupid, but the writing really isn't that bad. You confuse storytelling with writing. A game, TV show, movie or other piece of entertainment can have a poor story but still make up for it with solid writing. Don't generalize everything.

Implying XC2 has more hours worth of content than XCX

Mercenary missions artificially prolong game length, even if you do them 24-7. I could also pull up more arguments by pointing out content and other such things from both games, but then again everyone gets different mileage out of games than each other.

/xgg/ says XC2 has 90 hours worth of content if you speedrun the story
I'm 98 hours in, about to fight the final boss and I haven't been rushing the main story at all
2 of the extra 8 hours are time spent idling, 3 spent playing Tiger Tiger, and the remaining 3 farming various items, enemies, etc.
Many of the first 90 hours spent was just me dicking around and exploring until I get bored, then continuing the main story quests

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Mercenary missions artificially prolong game length
I did all mercenary missions long before I killed all the superbosses, and you're free to only do the two or so that are required for plot progression if you don't like that game mechanic.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

I'm 98 hours in, about to fight the final boss and I haven't been rushing the main story at all

Well I finished at 60 hours doing 2 or 3 secondary missions and some minor farming so you defintely did some secondary things.

WebTool
WebTool

Because they both think for themselves, and that doesn't mean they are different beings at all.
Are you retarded? Thinking separately means that they are separate persons, period. That's like denying the fucking definition.
you can complain to Takahashi
Oh, I will if I ever have a chance to do so.
Nothing will change the fact they're both Pneuma.
Except them separating at the end. You can't just ignore that. I am not denying that Pneuma is the sum of both but the argument is not about Pneuma but Mythra and Pyra.
Soraya Saga, who on Twitter already said that Pyra and Mythra are actually the same person.
You mean this lol?
assuming
Assume my ass.

Skullbone
Skullbone

Perun's breasts
Why. I like her design, but why so jiggly.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

/xgg/ says a lot of things.
I personally say each chapter is about 10 hours long each by average of past poles in this thread, and it kind of tapers off as you get to the last couple.
Depending on if you decide to grind your heart out for cores, that's give or take a couple dozen of hours.

Mercenary Missions only artificially prolong the game if you decide to do them and sleep until they're done, but otherwise can be done while you're doing other things.
I'd say Core Grinding and opening is more the artificial lengthener than anything.

X is a different story, where you're grinding almost all the fucking time for your skell or for some glamour item. It was a little bit more involved though.

Techpill
Techpill

I did all mercenary missions long before I killed all the superbosses, and you're free to only do the two or so that are required for plot progression if you don't like that game mechanic.

I thought the context was how long it took you to 100% both games. Then again, the requirements for 100% in XC2 are way worse than those of XCX. Shitloads of RNG and fagotry.

I already admitted that everyone gets different mileage out of games. That includes time spend clearing the main game and so on. Granted, the whole "90 hours unless you speedrun" thing was just an estimate people have been barking around, probably just a meme really.

Because when a character has no personality, they get sex appeal instead, aka DUDE TITTIES LMAO

Mercenary Missions only artificially prolong the game if you decide to do them and sleep until they're done, but otherwise can be done while you're doing other things.

Not necessarily, but context is sensitive here. If you're doing any% then yeah, otherwise they can eat up a lot of time. I do agree that core grinding eats up the most time though.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

I've done an all blitzball team and an all hammer team. Should I do an all knuckle team or an all shakra team next?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

All hammer team was surprisingly fun and viable, even if it means no driver combos ever.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

Playing as a blitzball
That can't have been fun

King_Martha
King_Martha

All knuckle will be the marvelous Alrest Juggling Act. If an enemy isn't in the air spinning madly, you're doing it wrong.

idontknow
idontknow

Because when a character has no personality, they get sex appeal instead, aka DUDE TITTIES LMAO
Poppi Alpha, Pandoria, Nia, Morag, Theory, Ursula, Sheba, Adenine, and Finch are flat or near flat
QTpi, Agate, Kasandra, Azami, Nim, Vess, Electra, Zenobia, KOS-MOS, and Herald are middle tier
Pyra, Mythra, Poppi QT, Brighid, Vale, Praxis, Perun, Kora, Newt, and Dahlia are all high tier
Pyra and Mythra have big boobs while Nia is flat

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

get adenine
arrogant nerd voice
merc squad name is "contrarians"
Is she /ourgirl/?

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

He said: "Stop dodging the main argument of Pyra and Mythra literally talking with each other the whole game ffs. They don't even share all of the memories, for example, Pyra didn't remember what Mythra said to Brighid long ago while Mythra says that she remembers.

This doesn't happen at all, just what happens is Mythra saying "Oh, I remember that" Pyra says nothing and she probably remembers since she says several times that her and Mythra's memories are the same.

As an example: when Pyra talk about the Aegises War she was refering to herself as " I " "I fought against Malos with all my might " But Mythra hadn't even constructed Pyra at the time, and Pyra refers to herself as "I"

Again, in ch. 5 during Fan's funeral, Nia asks Mythra why she isn't standing with Rex and that Pyra would do this. Mythra answers that it's actually Pyra's idea to stay behind."

This is due to their different personalities, Mythra says that leaving Rex alone more Pyra's idea than her's, and Mythra didn't disagree with it, since both are the same person, the way they think will be always the same.

Look at that Heart-To-Heart Family Ties as an example.

Pyra and Mythra deal with Morag's situation in different ways because of their personalities, but the way everything ends is always the same, the way they both think is equal, because both are Pneuma, Pyra is Mythra, and Mythra is Pyra, one will never disagree with the other. You can't stand your wrong interpretation of the plot because the plot itself was quite clear. Play the game again.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Can't tell if you're trying to bait me with garbage opinions by claiming the characters with the most development have no personality, or just shitposting to further prove my point that titties are a replacement for personality

Here's your (You) I guess, I couldn't make heads or tails of what you were getting at.

girlDog
girlDog

What are the best Arts to keep on Tora? All three forms of Poppi
Also his best accessories?

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

This is someone else's response to this:

The poor argument of people who want to destroy what the game has established is that '' Pyra and Mythra are two thinking beings with different bodies and therefore both are different beings"

It makes no sense in the context of the narrative at all. You realize that the person has problems with interpretations when he says. "the argument is not about Pneuma but Mythra and Pyra" WTF But Pyra is Pneuma, and Mythra is Pneuma, Pneuma is the original being. He knows that Pneuma is the original but still assumes that Pyra and Mythra are different beings. Give me a break. "

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

This doesn't happen at all
I suggest you rewatch the cutscene.
more Pyra's idea than her's
How could it be "more" if you insist on them thinking literally the same way? Also, Nia jokes there that Mythra actually wanted to stay near Rex at that moment.
You see, the way they are presented (and separated at the end which you again, dodged) at least during the first 7 chapters is in no logical way suggests that they are the same person but just with a switching temper and appearance.

Also, reddit spacing.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

This is someone else's response to this:
(You)

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

it was fun for the novelty of watching the attack animations, which are all great. nothing like beating the shit out of enemies by making touchdowns and baseball pitches

damn this is really fun. threw a gold tyrant ring on nia for extended launch time and a gold beta scope on morag for extra break.

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Hmm, this is inspiring my second playthrough. Heal slut Morag did not occur me.

I really hope the remove blade restriction in the future. Having to collect a very limited or being stuck with certain blades on certain characters fucking sucks.

cum2soon
cum2soon

Protip: Healer morag is barely passable.

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Today, we use our power to fell a god and seize our destiny

Wait, is XC2 somehow related to XC1? Is the alternate universe where Ontos and half of Klaus's body got sent to, the same universe where Shulk and his friends exist? What if XCX is a prequel to both games, and the the future of XCX (after the ending) ends up what causes the events of both games to occur due to Klaus's actions?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

My theory is that X is actually the sequel to all of this and Mira is Rex's world, EONS later.,
where as the Samaarians came from Shulk's universe.

I say this because Klaus never said his world was actually Earth

idontknow
idontknow

Agate the very first rare blade I cracked open from a crystal.

massdebater
massdebater

Why are rare blades so rare? I have less than 10 and I got 90% of those in the first few chapters from the core pack the DLC gives you.

I went out of my way to farm rare cores in Mor Ardain, using 99+ cylinders at the docks. Got 1 rare blade out of 50+ rare cores with 5 boosters used each time.

WebTool
WebTool

X's ending is a cliffhanger taking place after a huge plot dump in Ch12
DLC not only answers nothing, but Yelv's final mission adds more questions

2's ending is open ended
Hope you guys are ready for the DLC to answer nothing and ask even more questions. It's funny seeing how XB2's ending just kind of irritates anyone interested in the story. Endless debates about god damn threesomes.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Alrest is the original world. Morytha is the ruin of the civilization that Klaus' experiment wiped out. The universe he created and where half of his body and Galea went is Shulk's and Ontos is likely Alvis. Feeling guilty for what he did, the half left of Klaus on the original world decided to create Alrest and the blade/titan cycle using the remaining two aegis/cpus, Pneuma and Logos.

DeathDog
DeathDog

i couldn't care less for what happen to Rex after the game, i just want alternate world Malos Chronicles and save the world from Amalthus sex toy

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Rex’s AI has grade A autism. He’ll switch blades for the fuck of it. If you’re in Chapter 8 and Controlling Jin Rex will just spam blades. I had to make sure Mythra was not his first Blade or he’d switch around when it was time to do a driver combo. This is why you can’t trust Rex AI with that Blade.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

What if they make a direct sequel to XBC2 and tie it in with the events of X's ending and XC1. Combine all the different alternate universes into one place as some kind of feedback/side effect of destroying Zohar.

Also, It's been over a decade since I played the original Xenogears. How do these games tie into that one? If I remember correctly Xenogears had a beginning similar to XCX with the last humans surviving on a spaceship that gets attacked by an alien lifeforms and the crashland on a nearby planet. Difference being that Xenogears takes place several thousands of years later.

Emberburn
Emberburn

Got boreas on morag
Dammit am I fucked?

whereismyname
whereismyname

Overdrive

Playboyize
Playboyize

Okay, if you're questioning the narrative that was quite clear and putting your dumb interpretation ahead of the facts I'm going to ask you a very straightforward question.

Pyra tells the events of Aegises War referring to herself as "I" Mythra hadn't even constructed Pyra at that time.

Rex states: "They are the same person, I never thought about them separately"

Mythra states "Pyra, Mythra, they are both me, call me whichever.

Pneuma are both at once, which consists of the two personalities Pyra and Mythra at the same time, two personas of the same person who are in fact the same person.

Pneuma says that Poppi promised, the promise was with Mythra.

There's a lot more facts that clearly the game says "Pyra and Mythra are the same person.

So tell me, when the game established otherwise, when did the plot's narrative say "Pyra and mythra are different beings"?

The plot never says that, you can't have the answer you want. All that supports what you are saying is your dumb interpretation. Even if Pyra and Mythra think for themselves, the consequences will always be the same. When did Pyra and Mythra disagree with each other? This NEVER happens because both are the same person.

But answer my question, when the plot said that Pyra and Mythra are different beings?

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Be fighting final boss
Something instantly kills me halfway through
Literally all three of my party members go from 100 to 0 in an instant at the same time
Even Morag

So does the final boss scale to your level, or can I come back and beat his ass later? Also, is there a good way of farming Rare/Legendary cores around level 70? I'm missing a specific blade that I want to use.

Methshot
Methshot

You didn't notice everything getting brighter and him not attacking?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

malos sleepwalks into rex's bed

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

I see you little shit want to sleep with the big boys
this is my bed Malos
don't get cocky little shit
*Malos leaves doing pic related*

happy_sad
happy_sad

Rex's world is just Earth, though, which was destroyed in XCX.

takes2long
takes2long

Get hit by photon something
Survived that attack before, figure I can survive it again
No enemies nearby, no buttons to push, nothing at all
Die instantly

If there's a mechanic then the game genuinely doesn't tell you.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Did you try using a chain attack?

Spamalot
Spamalot

save a level 4 for that sort of shit

Techpill
Techpill

Oh, you just got a Seiren Buster
Prometheus is the one to watch out for.

JunkTop
JunkTop

hurr did you try plugging it in first

Yes, and that didn't work.

durr did you try turning it on

Didn't work either. I utilized everything the game taught me and failed.

TechHater
TechHater

Yes, and that didn't work.
Okay. I didn't know myself because I died to the same thing, but next time killed him before he did that attack.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

Does anyone have links for any of the other Xeno games' artbooks?

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

You gave up huh ?

Supergrass
Supergrass

Where in the hell do I find Warning Lamps? I need them to refine Affinity Max Evade V cores. Google said they're at Elpys but there are no salvaging spots there so I think I'm being memed. Also, I'm not sure where to get Affinity Max Evade V cores, I only have 1 but I'm gonna need a few for Morag.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Exhentai has XB1 and XBX's art books. Dunno about Perfect Works or any of the Saga stuff.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

War of the Servants

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

please respond

WebTool
WebTool

kill Dagas' behemoth on the third try
his ENTIRE affinity chart resets
including trust
Fuck me hard in the front yard. At least he got 3 slots now I guess. Fuck.

StonedTime
StonedTime

First floor.

Supergrass
Supergrass

Thanks. The Xenoblade x one's huge.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

first floor
not specifying where
not naming the closest skip travel point
not realizing that "first floor" can be taken the american way or the britbongistan way

Y'know, if you really intend to help someone you should prove it instead of giving a two word response.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

At least he got 3 slots now I guess. Fuck.
I didn't notice that.

He only needed like 3k trust in his first affinity chart, and he need like 7k in the second I believe. You can just shove 500 lettuces from Fonset down his throat and he'll be at max trust again if you want to max him out.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Mythra states "Pyra, Mythra, they are both me, call me whichever.
Not him, but this one was a mistranslation of the english script. The JP text states "BNe it Pyra or Mythra, it doesn't matter, so call that form however you want".

Also, note that in a lot of instances, Pyra and Mythra use "we" not "I" when referring to both of them.

Techpill
Techpill

That's like 500 more mashes I gotta sit through. If they were going to reset the entire fucking thing they should have had his quest unlockable way, way earlier into the game and affinity chart.
It also reset his favorite items from the pouch which is really weird to me since I doubt they change. Didn't reset his weapon chip though.
The quest also gave me a mirror matter chip which makes Mythra more busted and I love that.

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Just go straight down. It's before the bridge that has a heart 2 heart about Gramps talking about the place.

Nojokur
Nojokur

pssst don't make reddit angry

JunkTop
JunkTop

That's like 500 more mashes I gotta sit through.
I maxed out all my Rare blades' trust while watching the BotW speedrun at SGDQ, it doesn't take much time if you have a good max stock of pouch items in your inventory.

TechHater
TechHater

Here's why you're a colossal fucking faggot, user.

Check the entire place twice
No salvage points anywhere
Map doesn't show any either
Eventually after using different search queries through Google I find out that I need to do a quest first
Apparently the quest is called "Salvage King" or something

Don't reply to questions if you're a fucking worthless individual. Ignored.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Have fun

Skullbone
Skullbone

Okay, I will take the baton pass:

Pyra tells the events of Aegises War referring to herself as "I" Mythra hadn't even constructed Pyra at that time.
Pyra used I, because she refers herself as the Aegis and thus narrated what happened back then from Mythra perspective. It is interesting to note that Pyra -never- used "I" in reference to Mythra's memories anywhere else in the game, be it in English or Japanese.

Rex states: "They are the same person, I never thought about them separately"
Localization screwed. Rex said in Japanese that they "2 persons in 1", and used that as an excuse. In the Japanese dub, it is extremely obvious that Rex tried to play dumb with Zeke, then when Zeke pointed out how they are different, Rex elaborated further. Notice how Zeke never changed his speech into "her" but keep "them" all the time.

Mythra states "Pyra, Mythra, they are both me, call me whichever.
Another localization issue. Mythra says that since it is both at the same time, using any of them is fine.

two personas of the same person who are in fact the same person.
Actually, Pneuma is not even defined as a person. Mythra herself said it is both girls at once. By definition, your following points don't work at all, because it is simply 2 persons controlling the same body, hence why they react that way. It is pretty much the same basis as the fusion in DBZ: when Goten and Trunks fused into Gotrunks, it isn't a new individual, but both brats at the same time.
Since Pneuma is Pyra and Mythra at the same time, it is obvious she can respond Poppi promised to her.

So tell me, when the game established otherwise, when did the plot's narrative say "Pyra and mythra are different beings"?
Rex and the cast use "二人" when it comes to them, so they don't call "her" but "both of them". Rex NEVER fails to use both names except during critical moments or when it comes to Pneuma.

1/2

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Just go back to circle jerking with plebbit. Christ.

SniperWish
SniperWish

Lesson learned, just Google it from the start.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

DLC quests/NG+ when?

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

The plot never says that, you can't have the answer you want. All that supports what you are saying is your dumb interpretation. Even if Pyra and Mythra think for themselves, the consequences will always be the same. When did Pyra and Mythra disagree with each other? This NEVER happens because both are the same person.

When Pyra talk about Addam with Rex, she specially refers to Mythra's memories, and explicitely said, both in English and Japanese that she didn't get to know Addam herself, so she judged that based on Mythra's memories. It isn't the same thing as the whole stuff in chap 3.

Pyra and Mythra agreeing to each other doesn't mean squat when both actually consider the other one opinion.
For instance, Mythra was ready to nuke the ether accelerator in tantal, yet Pyra told her not to do that, and wanted to resolve it peacefully while giving them Addam's message. They didn't have the same opinion on that matter, but Mythra agreed and explicitely said she leaves that matter to her, to which Pyra thanked her for. This is obviously not something that makes sense if they are the same person.

In chapter 6, Even Malos noticed Pyra could control Siren, while he explicitely said it is Mythra's artifice. She basically bruteforced Siren's control permission which should be only Mythra's exclusive use. And no, it can't be a simple guess: Malos is himself an aegis and know how artifice works.

In chapter 7, Malos plainly refers to the fused form with -both- girls name. For someone who stole data from the core, it is extremely odd for him to bother with 2 names, if they "were the same person".

Let's not forget the countless number of times Pyra and Mythra use "we" and how Pyra herself stated she often talk to her.
Finally, but not the least, they treat each other as sister and not as a personality.

2/2

AwesomeTucker
AwesomeTucker

Zeke: Kassandra, Praxis, Kora(?)
Nia: Floren, Wulfric
Morag: Theory, Newt, Herald
Tora: Adenine, Boreas, KOSMOS,
Rex: Godfrey, Gorg, Ursula, Sheba

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

The Pyra/Mythra choice is very strange, considering it's the only branching choice in the main story the player can take that has any real consequence.

I like Mythra. I usually dislike tsundere archetypes but her gap moe aspects shine through it and I find her harsh personality to be a good foil to Rex's optimism. I find it insanely fascinating that she was so deeply consumed by fear of her power that she had to create a "sister" persona to hide and I think it's a goddamn crime that she didn't get proper screentime that wasn't devoted to anime memes. Pyra was the most flat and boring character in the party to me, but there's no denying that Rex wanted his stiffy in the fire crotch most of all and it's obvious why. She literally saved his life at multiple occasions and protected him when it mattered most.

By picking Mythra I feel like I cucked Rex. Him screaming her name feels so out-of-character for him and made me feel uncomfortable. It's me, the player, who prefers Mythra not Rex, and it makes me wonder WHY they gave the player that choice. That choice and nothing else.

The cynical side of me believes it was just shoehorned in for fanservice, for who the player thinks is "best girl", but it kind of messes with Rex's characterization to a damaging extent.

SniperGod
SniperGod

3* overclock bangles anyone? Where can I farm a couple?

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

the bunnies in tantal

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

guys but in this part Mythra looks like pretty intrigued by Zake. Love interest for him?

Flameblow
Flameblow

Okay fine but no kissing and I'll pretend I don't enjoy it

Lunatick
Lunatick

Mythra likes older guy like Addam, that's why is interested in Zeke

Soft_member
Soft_member

well if Zeke said he fucked Mythra no one would believe him, also he is good looking

likme
likme

the end of chapter 6
Holy shit that was way too anime. Everything about Jin makes no sense and Pyra's threat makes no sense and being able to control the artifice makes no sense. Where does this fucking Fire Emblem character' power come from in the first place? How can he just have all this power, way more than either of god's babies and not just use light speed to get up the tree? How did they not know about it when they fought WITH the guy for a whole war? If she could use a laser to blow a blade up why the fuck did she not target the enemies from the very beginning of their first fight? Why do the artificial blades look like baby mechon? Why not just kill off the aegis after opening the gate since they've had at least 2 days This is so stupid.
Rex gets blade combo'd
lmaoing @ ur lfie kid
Poppi almost put his ass through the wall
I was ready for it.

Emberfire
Emberfire

that's why Rex is jealous.

Rex: Zeke why do you keep eyeing Mythra during battle?
Zeke: I-I'm just making sure the power of the Aegis is being put to good use

King_Martha
King_Martha

Does anyone have a link to the limited edition OST?

Also, has Veeky Forums been stupidly slow today for anyone else? Images take forever to load and the site in general also takes a while to load properly.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

In Japanese it is even more evident that both are the same person, there's more evidence. In that particular sentence Hikari tells Rex to call her the name he likes. A correct translation would be "Call me whatever you prefer" which has the same meaning as the official translation.

In any case Hikari alludes to a single person. And there's nothing "We" in Japanese is also in the singular. I'm Japanese so I know what I'm talking about.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Pretty sure she was wanting to test her powers on a guys saying he wanted to test the powers of the Aigis.

TreeEater
TreeEater

Go away if you're not going to buy into the cuckoldry/ntr meme

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

Indol was threatening Tantal
been destroying Genbu for the sake of military might
everything the king did made everything worse for 500 years
It's almost as if Tantal and Uraya are finally realizing that Indol is the true enemy,
the third aegis sword
OH HECK.
sealed it away because he couldn't control it
then how did he seal it away you dummy

Snarelure
Snarelure

Yeah right.

The exact sentence is
ホムラでもヒカリでもどっちでも好きな方でよんでいいわよ

She doesn't refer to herself at all. She is referring to that for, to which she never mentioned it as "herself" but both, especially the
あれはあたし達の本当の姿
and
二人で一つ

MPmaster
MPmaster

Or he's a dude with a wandering eye.
It's implied he's had more of his fair share of fun with women while on the road with Pandy.

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Who /doesn't understand the Pyra-Mythra divide and just ignores both of them instead/ here? It's like a stupider version of the Fei-Id-Coward thing from Gears, or maybe Weltall-Weltall Id-Xenogears (Pneuma is Xenogears obviously) if you consider Blades as Gears. I'd rather try explain Gears' plot than explain how the Aegsisters dynamic works, it honestly does my head in.

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Makes perfect sense to me. Only reason anyone wouldn't understand is if they're just thinking too much into it. It's not like it's trying to be complicated, much like many of the things in this game.

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

An Aegis' core has the blueprints for all life
What did he mean by this? Why does Malos know this? How does he know they can survive without a core? Why didn't Mythra just make more titans for people to live on? Why does this guy keep showing up and bringing up never before seen plot shit then disappearing? And they still haven't covered flesh eaters.

JunkTop
JunkTop

Best way to grind idea?
Legendaries aren't givin me shit so I'm sure I need more thot cloud
Please tell me it's not cake spam

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Aegis Cores collect information from all the core crystals in order to help generate new life for Cloud Sea particulate matter.

eGremlin
eGremlin

How does Malos know this?
Are you a fucking brainlet?
Malos is himself a fucking Aegis. He has the same kind of data in his core, so he probably know the extent of the aegis core abilities.

Having information about life doesn't mean they can create it out of thin air, especially titans life is explained later.

And fucking flesh eaters were already covered a while ago.

TechHater
TechHater

It's an excuse for Rex to still be alive

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

t. Weeb

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

Find schlomo mc wasteofspace the blade
Feed him cake till he reaches all tiers unlocked
Have him slut it up with ursula a few times till his chart is maxed
Repeat

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

he has the same data but he knows everything about himself despite being removed from the world for nearly as long as Mythra and can explain it to people, who he's been working with and are also surprised to learn this
Something doesn't add up there. Plus, why would you make a god that has all of the information about life but not be able to create it? Especially when Malos seems to exist only to destroy it.
At no point in the game has any character said "Flesh eaters are those peopleblade fusions." That's all I want. It's obviously implied but the game never defines a flesh eater as that. They just started referring to them as flesh eaters in like chapter 4.
It seems that way.

whereismyname
whereismyname

"Flesh Eaters" should tell you what a Flesh Eater is user

Flameblow
Flameblow

tfw didn't need to grind any Idea and just ground out Legendarily until I had everything
it's 80% luck, I assure you.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Man, you can't be serious.

Malos AND Mythra/Pyra know the content of their core, and that's all about it. they don't know their purpose and follow whatever they feel like it.

It isn't like Malos needed to explain everything about the aegis core. All they need is a functional aegis core to get access to the world tree, which Malos can't because his was heavily damaged during the aegis war.

At no point? For fuck sake user, in chapter 3, Cole DID explain what was a flesh eater: it is basically the fusion of a blade with human cells. With a name like that, you can expect that a crude method exist.
Chapter 5 even explain why Judicium people created flesh eater in the first place.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

schlomo mc wasteofspace
I'm assuming this is Dagas?
Also, I'm quickly realized I do't actually think I have enough autism to get every rare blade

farquit
farquit

Literally any blade

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

It's literally any blade. Generics work too. Stuff them full of cake, then send them off to learn to be an idol

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Alrighty, I suppose I'll do that Saturday or something
I hate that Zeke's Bravery is the lowest, though
I just want Newt, that's it

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

People like you that can't pay attention, or wait for the game to explain it's story should not play JRPG's. Simply pay attention and follow context clues, and the game explains damn near everything.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Is there an easy way to raise affinity? I need to work on Praxis so I can unlock Theory.

askme
askme

Spam pouch items

viagrandad
viagrandad

Which ones though? I heard some items give more affinity than others.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Forcefeed her cake

Evilember
Evilember

We are, Ursala's New Groove! And we'll do what we can!

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

It's funny how the eyes can completely change the personality of the characters
Rex looks way more cocky, almost like a smug anti-hero
Pyra looks slightly more malicious, sort of like a gang leader's girlfriend

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

I wish Poppi Alpha got more art. It's the best Poppi.

Techpill
Techpill

See

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

then send them off to learn to be an idol
Have him slut it up with ursula a few times till his chart is maxed

Is this even necessary? The trust ranks themselves grant idea xp

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

WANT A BIT O DIS?
WANT A BIT OF DIS?
WANT A BIT O DIS?
WANT A BIT OF DIS?
TAKE DAT COPPAH

TreeEater
TreeEater

Well yeah, but if you can be getting more trust ranks while you cram cake down your other blades throats, what's not to love?

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

Just finished the game. Avoided going here until I did so sorry if this was brought up before, but who do you think would win in a one on one? Rex and his harem or Shulk and Muh Naw Doe?

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

That's a good point. I began questioning it after the chart gain slowed but I can just dump them and rotate in more since I got like 14 to A rank before I started sending them out. I forgot what my reasoning was

Crazy_Nice
Crazy_Nice

Pneuma died in space didn't she?

happy_sad
happy_sad

Rex, but if you put the whole gangs minus QTpi then Team Shulk wins. QTpi destroys Team Shulk and Team Rex

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

WHICH

ITEM

IS

IT

EXACTLY

Flameblow
Flameblow

Why are all the tantalese guards Kaibaman?

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

All the cake. Go to the dessert shop in Tantal, buy everything n the store, then cram it down her throat.

Lunatick
Lunatick

Literally anything. Every pouch item raises trust

takes2long
takes2long

Read the Google Doc, user. Christ. The best items to use for blades while getting the highest trust and least amount of voice lines are in there.

You're going to get 'cake' as the answer because you don't use the resources we provide.
Several anons died making that google doc.

Snarelure
Snarelure

decide to load up xenoblade x file to do postgame stuff i never got around to
all these items
all these mechanics i totally forgot
playing this after a lot of xenoblade 2 is throwing me off. Finding specific items is a pain in the ass, changing party members is a goddamn sin, and I still don’t know what potential does. Is it possible to get 100% without going insane?

TechHater
TechHater

check google doc
doesn't list cake among the best options

you guys are fucking faggots lmao

Nojokur
Nojokur

Start a new game and get used to the mechanics again

Techpill
Techpill

Rex, if only because he was able to keep Pyra and Mithra and the ability to use Blades in general at the end of the game, Shulk lost his Monado at the end though

farquit
farquit

play through 70 hours again
heck no I’ll figure most of it out as I go. Stuff like soul voice and whatnot is making sense again. And i never understood overdrive to begin with. Apparently I gotta pick up Primer/Ghostwalker to become some invincible maniac and actually kill the superbosses

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

If Shulk still had the Monado then he would win. The Monado out classes Pyra/Mythra/Pneuma.

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

why is rex's finger wet

Spamalot
Spamalot

He's checking what direction the wind is blowing in.

WebTool
WebTool

You won't be able to do a true 100% now.

Also I just did it too. I ended up doing squad tasks and missions. I forget how much fun the flame thrower with mag up is.

FastChef
FastChef

Tora swinging around QTpi's sword

This nopon is too fucking cute.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

Just finished XB2, should I play XB1? This was my first entry to the series and I loved it. All of know of the game is Smash Bros 4 and Shulk in underpants

Gigastrength
Gigastrength

absolutely

Emberburn
Emberburn

yes

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

Wouldn't it be like way more effective for her to use the weapon herself? Like he doesn't seem to be in the form of a good fighter

hairygrape
hairygrape

Tora want to be driver like the others!

Driver always uses blade's weapon, meh!

Lunatick
Lunatick

He just fingered Pyra.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

XB1 is even better, so yeah.

BinaryMan
BinaryMan

Which are the best trust raising items to spam?

StonedTime
StonedTime

I use these ponchos from fonsett village. They give 21 trust

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

soundtrack

5mileys
5mileys

Theyre 1k gold a pop an only stack to 22 though. Wouldnt the 31g cakes in Argentum that stack to 30 be better?

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

no clue, i have so much money from salvage spam I never tried anything else

how much trust are those?

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

God damn, Nia's knuckle weapon moveset is fucking awesome. Looks awesome and it hits pretty hard. Her launch move is so dumb tho, for a move named comet punch she doesn't even punch upward

Methshot
Methshot

I think theyre just the standard 12.

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

DOUBLE SPINNING EDGE
DOUBLE SPINNING EDGE
DOUBLE SPINNING EDGE
ROLLING SMASH
DOUBLE SPINNING EDGE

takes2long
takes2long

what blades is tachyon chip not optimal on besides mythra and poppi alpha?

askme
askme

Anyone who relies on critbuilds or block.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

BASARKA SLAAAASH
BASARKA SLAAAASH
BASARKA SLAAAASH
LEIBATA ELBOW
VALIANTOO CHARGE
BASARKA SLAAAASH
BASARKA SLAAAASH
BASARKA SLAAAASH
LEIBATA ELBOW

Snarelure
Snarelure

where?

MPmaster
MPmaster

Give dunban agility gems. You can bench him for now until you have agility gems, it's what I did. once he has them he can dodge pretty much every attack. I focused on moves that combo into each other

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Gale slash, steel strike, and worldly slash are some of his best stuff.

DeathDog
DeathDog

You should actually swap out Sharla because in that game dps/dps/tank actually works.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

It works once you have everybody's healing skills up to a decent level but for the early game Sharla is mandatory

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

I was actually shocked the name was literal
those cakes are probably only 9 trust though
i use the.. 18? trust? veggie aspics in fonsett, or else meat or fish from fonsett that has equivalent abilities if they like vegetables and won't shut up about it
doesnt she punch downward? yknow, like a comet? granted it's weird for a launch to go down
bless hikari

massdebater
massdebater

I had a feeling I needed to level him up first. Thanks for the help.

idontknow
idontknow

Something occurred to me you guys
I was trying to figure out what the fuck a weeaboo like meeaboo should be calling "Alrest" and I'm looking at it and..
arusuto
... Eartht?
it could be some more gnostic shit with 'Ars' as in the ars goetia, but ars just means art, and I guess it could be like both of those smashed together into arst

and then I realized earth and arse are both 'aasu' so that ru means you really do need to put a ru in there. aroost maybe. Definitely doesn't start wlth alr- or it'd be aaru, right?

Apparently final fantasy 15 has an arusuto they translate as 'alstor' and amazon gives me a few products for arusuto but mostly screenshots of some other game. meanwhile for alstor I get finnish farm equipment
she gets way too blushyblushy around Rex to not at least have a crush on him.
he's an agility tank. the concept confused the hell out of me back in the day. think "Danger Mario". He eventually gets skills that actually make him almost impossible to hit if he's armorless
dude I was so with you. That part was confusing.
Oh that thing? That never works for me. It doesn't seem to do anything.
Blonde isn't your color, my boy.
literally all I have cared about since I was 11.
AND WE'RE hyuuu
From what we find out at the end, no. it's not feasible for criminals to get their brains uploaded through shady methods.
wait, it's not 'tora! tora!' ?? really?
Nothing about Homura talking to Hikari makes any sense, and I mean any. For one thing it's always inside their heads. who "talks" in words inside their heads, unless they're having trouble concentrating? Karl Pilkington is who.
Incorrect. you beat 1, you start over with NG+
You are dumb. Finality is important for stories.
I like the armor
You find out he's bad but it's a while before you can do anything

Emberburn
Emberburn

I'm looking for excuses to not progress the story where Indol becomes a hostile state and you get locked out of it.
So I'm going to use the Tachyon Chips and overdrives I farmed in chapter 6 so Morag can threaten Zeke with every rare blade weapon she can use in the game in that certain heart-to-heart.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

I thought they stacked to 33, and other stuff stacked to 40

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

What the hell are you doing?

Emberburn
Emberburn

Probably? I just buy every cake in that store except the rare cakes and spam them while watching something.
I got it set up so that when Ive consumed them all a liked item is used to that a voiceline prompts.

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

Does anyone know if Nia's design originally had a tail? Her not having one bothers me a lot.

Spamalot
Spamalot

Quality post.

likme
likme

Not with that attitude

w8t4u
w8t4u

just move the story forward already

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

... Eartht?

Alrest => アルスト
Earth => 地球 or アース

So not even close.

VisualMaster
VisualMaster

Who the fuck makes all those core crystals storywise? I know Indol purifies them, but who shits them out?

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

the story tells you this later

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

They come from Titans. Did you forget when Vandham explains this in chapter 3?

cum2soon
cum2soon

Did you miss Vandham explanation in Chapter 3 or what? He outright explained where they come from.

hairygrape
hairygrape

Azurda

RumChicken
RumChicken

Are you stupid? Vandham fucking shows you.

Emberfire
Emberfire

Gee thanks guys, way to spoil this shit for me

Ignoramus
Ignoramus

I am sorry, I forgot. Could you give me a refresher please

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

The Womb
Seeing that dead blade that died in the process of transforming into a titan will never not unnerve me.

Inmate
Inmate

spoiler
when it is that early in the fucking game
Not even a plot twist since it is part of the backstory in the tutorial chapters.
If you call that a spoiler, I think you should gtfo asap considering there are much worse than that.

RavySnake
RavySnake

Why are you even here? That shit was pretty early in the game.

Titans son, they create core crystals inside them

massdebater
massdebater

shits them out

Ironic, Titans literally shit them out.

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

most animals don't die when they take a shit tho?

Evilember
Evilember

I'm the fag who made sure that /xxg/ follows Veeky Forums rule #3. And you're a retard if you think that's worthy of being spoiler tagged.

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

making up for being banned. no more political shit dammit
inorite? bugs me as much as the Lars not having the original dititigrade feet. If you're not going to put one in Cross's party, then why make that change?
Yeah see that part where I said "and then I realized" ?

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

If you know Indol purifies them you know they come from Titans.
You got your replies for your low effort though.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

They do shit when they die. Muscles no longer contract so your bowels empty after death.

SniperGod
SniperGod

No one is following that rule because you told them to. Get over yourself.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

Xenoblade has a much stronger story and locations. Biggest downgrade will be the battle system since it’s a lot simpler. Graphics have aged a bit but there are HD textures through Dolphin. Definitely give it a go.

Techpill
Techpill

Wow Hana final form really breaks down, those are some moves

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

This ain't /v/ son, but please, try it yourself and spoil maliciously if you think the rule isn't being enforced..

eGremlin
eGremlin

You asked for confirmation man, I gave you both spellings.

Snarelure
Snarelure

So there's only 4 pouch expansions? That's not fair.. Why isnt there one for everyone?

eGremlin
eGremlin

There is one for everyone you dope, look in the pastebin.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

No, there are 6 of them. Check the advanced faq, in the misc part for their locations.

Techpill
Techpill

they don't have to die, but you can generally find shit inside any dead animal

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

100 points missed by you
providing confirmation
Oh okay. Thanks! I'm glad I could make sure of that.
I am sniggering though that earth and arse would have the same pronunciation
Any theories on intended romanization or meaning for arusuto? Game like this, all the names have significance

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

All people dont spoil because of a rule, thats a needlessly reductive blanket statement.
Some do it because they dont want to spoil it for others or cant be bothered. Others may need the rule to convince themselves not to spoil.
An even if every single person here was not spoiling because of the rule , it wouldnt be because of you or some asshole who thinks theyre the thread police does it.

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

Titan's rest.

Illusionz
Illusionz

tfw you will never live on an archipelago made of gigantic flying jellyfishes

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Good, that was one of the worst areas of the game

Soft_member
Soft_member

Titans are called Kyoshin-ju or arusu
So it IS supposed to be Ars then. Maybe. Though that would probably still be aazu.. maybe. The Arma armadillo monsters are aruma so sometimes they respect the ru.
you reckon it's just abbreviated then huh? the last two syllables of rest.

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

b-but it had the northern lights

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

Beats me. The problem is that the actual spelling in romaji could be a mixture of Alst, Arst, and so forth.
It is probably tied to the JP name of the titans, アルス but past that, Takahashi is kind of criptic when it comes to the ethymology of certain stuff in XB2.

That's why I wish the localization didn't go completely apeshit with the location namechanges, because Takahashi definitely went something closer to latin instead of NoE obsession with greek stuff and random alteration of several languages mashed together.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

Shit taste.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

You level up faster doing quests rather than fighting mons right? Cause I've been farming the vamp and I'm still 4 levels below her.

Snarelure
Snarelure

Gameplaywise maybe, but it's the best visually.

Bidwell
Bidwell

Fight shit that's higher level than you and overkill them with a chain attack. Also, buy the EXP boosting accessories from Mor Ardain, as well as the EXP boosting deeds from shops.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Outside the cave it was probably the most titan like map of the game.

TreeEater
TreeEater

You level up the fastest from fighting higher level UMs. I went straight into postgame at level 69 grinding Territorial Rotbart to around mid 70s then went to level 110 UMs.

RavySnake
RavySnake

How did this stupid
Pyra and Mythra are the same person
line of thinking even start anyways? How could ANYONE think that after playing the game?

StonedTime
StonedTime

Yeah I respect the amount of work they put in, but... this, more than the past two, is a XENO game. it has THEMES. themes related to crazy obscure religiony stuff. You can't just change it. But at least they made it so if any character later is like "oh yeah the architect named the titans after the sins and virtues of man" there wouldn't be a plot hole, you'd just change him from a guy aware of catholic shit to a guy with a TON of different languages under his belt

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

Same entity, different sides of it.

Raving_Cute
Raving_Cute

what makes you say that?
I'm really not sure how you could think otherwise. They obviously are the same person by default, the only question is have they become separate over time. Maybobably.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

About Mythra-Rex crush don't you think she would behave in the same way on the same occasions with another guy? I mean, is it her way of blushing if maybe someone tries something with her or if she is in strange situations with a male, or not?

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Why do you fucking care?

TurtleCat
TurtleCat

Headcanon I guess they just try to make Mythra acceptable

FastChef
FastChef

Mental gymnastics. Same as usual

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

what makes you say that?
It felt organic going inside and out of the titan. Reminds me of Xenoblade 1 when you enter the Bionis interioir

iluvmen
iluvmen

That's why having a variety of name was quite jarring. They could go on with accent for all I care if they really think it gives more exotic feels to different populations, but it doesn't really make sense lorewise they would have names derived from so many different languages, yet speak a common language in Alrest.

It isn't even just the location names that irk me, but also concept themselves. Praetorium just doesn't fit Indol in general with the obvious religious stuff around, yet borrowing the name of roman structure, but for some reason, Morag is now an inquisitor, even though Mor Ardain is arguably nothing close to religion, let alone inquisition.

If they want to play the smartasses with some "flair", at least they should use the terms properly instead of making the lore worse.

Stupidasole
Stupidasole

I feel like an idiot for asking this but how are you disengaging the character's main blades? I thought you had to keep their story blades on them.

askme
askme

Get to chapter 8

StonedTime
StonedTime

Get to chapter 8.

JunkTop
JunkTop

After chapter 7 Rex gets the ability to grab anyone's blades. You put the original blade in slot 2 or 3, then rex engages them, and they're off.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

don't you think she would behave in the same way on the same occasions with another guy?
Well we didn't get to see that, did we? She only has one driver and the only other guys around are comedy relief
The times she blushed most at Rex were when he was being really nice, seemingly surprised by it.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

I'm literally an idiot then cause I beat the game and never once thought to store them on rex in order to swap them out.

Flameblow
Flameblow

Oh good point. Of course you get to go inside two others too, but not their outsides as well.
I'm actually more than a little confused about what the hell you're doing inside the cloudway. Does the central ars have ... two mouths and two arseholes?

eGremlin
eGremlin

Should I go full Ether cannon on Nia? I already have KOSMOS on her from rolling. I can overdrive over the Azami I got and finally use the Herald crystal too.

I don't really have much need of healing ever since I got classic medals, so Byakko doesn't need to stay on her. Or maybe the game will get harder soon and I'll need it..

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Try not to feel too bad

Spazyfool
Spazyfool

Do not waste an OD on Azami
Buy the 500k core crystal in Gormott and put that on nia instead.

Lord_Tryzalot
Lord_Tryzalot

Azami isn't really good. Just have Sheba.
That said, Herald is questionable on Nia because of the strength mod, and frankly, triple ether cannon isn't exactly great, regardless if you control that character or if you let the IA use that thing.

iluvmen
iluvmen

tl;dr
Thank you for adhering to Veeky Forums Rule #3. :)

Skullbone
Skullbone

What was she originally if not an inquisitor? I took it to mean 'detective' like 'if there's shit going down, find it out, capture them, and grill them' which is exactly what she did. or rather the guy under her.
Indol confuses me because it's clearly churchy but who are they worshipping? the architect, whom it's bizarre they are even aware of? and whom malthy admits he didnt find when he went up there (but he hid that it was all metal and shit so hmm)? Fan La Norne/Haze (what are her names in nihongo anyway? wiki aint helpin)? Just because she's been alive for a while? The Ars itself, as the music lyrics kind of imply, and the story at the beginning kind of indicates? Like they clearly revere it but..

SniperGod
SniperGod

It works just fine, ESL-kun

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

Same entity, different sides of it.
Is not this what Pyra and Mythra say all the time?.
They are both side of the same coin.

PurpleCharger
PurpleCharger

I think the game didn't do a good enough job because it didn't explicitly, blatantly say they were different people, it just implies it through action.

Personally, I would've much rather prefered they were the same person, entirely, just different levels of true self. Hell, make even more Freudean and make it so Pyra is the superego, Mythra the id and Pneuma the ego

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Not him but it's the only area of the game where you can always see you're running around on something alive. Gormott and Mor Ardain have their heads visible, but most of the time your camera won't be pointed at them, and Uraya and Genbu are just big, fancy caves.

Skullbone
Skullbone

Hm, what should the 3rd weapon be then?

Lunatick
Lunatick

it took me a while to get it too
sucks because for nia it's not a problem, but for zeke and meleph I actually like their tagalongs and want them around, but I also gave them all the newer blades I want raised up

hairygrape
hairygrape

From his example, he's not the thread police, but more like the thread senator. It sounds to me like basically he was saying "i'm the biggest rulesfag ever, I actually got the rules instated, and even I don't consider that a spoiler"

Garbage Can Lid
Garbage Can Lid

rape? rape

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

That does seem to be the case
I guess some people are just in love with the capitol building and don't want george washington coming along for the ride.
oh that's a good point. it's just the jellyfish barely look like lifeforms. they're completely sessile, not even with moving tentacles or anything... a few of them float, but they float like mechanical hovering things. and once you get to fonsett it still just looks like a normal island that has a few weird spikes
actually, it's reminiscent of the over the top weird continentlets on Mira. Those things inspired me like mad, someday I want to make a scifi all about an intensely impossible world with braintwisting physics that a civilization has found itself growing on. Someplace so crazy that the poles are considered mythical and nobody has ever been to them.

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

Morag original function is 特別執権官 which literally means Special Noble Official. You could simply change it into Special magistrate or officer. Inquisitor is quite precise since they are charged to hunt heresy to begin with, hence heavily related to religion.

Indol are pretty much acting as "arbiters" in the world. Although they do use the architect, preaching the way how the world should be which is why Amalthus could convince his goons to smash old torna because they were bunch of heretic thinking blades and titans should be on par or even higher grounds than humans..

Fan la norne is pretty much the same in JP. Her original blade name is Kasumi who was plainly translated quite literally which is kind of weird since they bothered giving "proper names" to blades, but went lazy with her.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

you wouldn't

Need_TLC
Need_TLC

Don't forget the whole thing about localizing all the blade names lost the significance of the name change.

Playboyize
Playboyize

If you want some offensive stuff, you could give her Adenine or Dalhia. But I admit I didn't really tried an "optimized" offensive build for Nia yet.

Emberburn
Emberburn

I guess when I hear "SPECIAL Inquisitor" I think of Clouseau's boss. I dunno. That is weird then, to remove a lot of religious references and then put other ones back in.

I thought malthy destroyed torna on his own or pulling the same shit he did at the end, it never occurred to me that anyone was ever with him on that, seeing that nobody knows it happens and they all believe it was the aegis, even though everyone still venerates that thing and only the aegis herself feels bad about it, even though she knows she didn't do it

oh yeah kasumi means haze doesn't it. I forgot about that. same with 'Misty'

thanks for all this clarification. Hey while we're here, what's Morytha called? was it left unchanged? Given what we find out about it, it seems odd that its meaning doesn't stand out. and do you think it even really is a 'rotting titan' or just a piece of old continent?

TreeEater
TreeEater

Mythra literally says she and Pyra are two sides of the same coin, doesn't she? Characters discuss them being the same or not like Zeke and Rex on the ship to Indol. There's room for confusion.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

why dont I have any merc missions in Indol for shops

I'm in chapter 8, have the place at 5 stars. No missions opened up. Need all the deeds

Emberfire
Emberfire

Yes, it is just so inconsistent I don't understand what they tried to do.
It is as if they had a general directive when it comes to stuff for the voice actors, but when they had to put things in common, things went to the gutter.

I'm still not sure why they didn't go all the way with their stupid obsession with Greek since it could at least stick to a pattern like how blades have JP names in the JP ver.
But I think my biggest gripe with them is how they don't give a shit about their own choices, like a bushido warrior called Perceval, Azami not changed at all, or Shin turned into Jin for obscure reasons.

Amalthus still mobilized Indol army against the old Kingdom of Torna, so they had to be aware of the purge but also the "official statement" about Torna's sinking. So they are obviously in cahoots, unless Amalthus somehow disposed of all the soldiers, which is unlikely.
And actually, Mythra wasn't aware if she wasn't the cause of Torna's sinking. All she knew was that 3 continents have sunk back then when Pyra explained that to Rex & co in chapter 4. My understanding is that Pyra learned historical facts with the play or before that point, and both girls concluded that the last fight on Torna took its toll on the titan, which is why Mythra didn't object when Jin claimed she was the reason why the titan has sunk.

As for Morytha, it is called モルス so something like Mors(e) or Mols(e). The JP script still considered that as a rotten titan too.

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

It's hardly intuitive so that's not surprising. To swap so-and-so from Blade to Driver you need them equipped ehich which is similarly annoying.

DeathDog
DeathDog

Ehe... um.... y-you'll find out soon.

askme
askme

It's finally over

Emberburn
Emberburn

Gotcha I'll just move on to getting deeds elsewhere. Thought maybe my game bugged or something.

Firespawn
Firespawn

And they left all the common blades alone, almost as if feeling guilty. That's the one place where it's kind of hard to keep track of a bunch of foreign names.

CodeBuns
CodeBuns

WE ARE

LuckyDusty
LuckyDusty

army
Okay I was confused about those scenes, it seemed to me the army was involved BEFORE he started helping to bandage people up
>Mythra didn't know if she sank Torna
... that's kind of dumb, but it's happened in a lot of anime, so i'll take it.
I just bet anything the characters are wrong about that, since they've never heard of land that wasnt a titan. Also neat, thanks. I'm gonna say Morth just so people roughly know what I'm talking about.
you are useful person. if only I had someone like you to help me wrap my head around 'hyrule'

RumChicken
RumChicken

I think the most hilarious part is that in the E3 demo, the generic blades names were actually changed (they looked too western to be any close to JP). So it is very likely they intended changing them too, but decided it wasn't worth their time.

But again, that's the localization team that managed to screw Dagas' skill description, while translating Memory Locket into Memory Rocket.

Soft_member
Soft_member

Also you can't steal someone's main if they're in the top slot
See it wasn't THAT bad. Unsatisfying ending, but...

Firespawn
Firespawn

is the skill description misleading?
memory rocket
hahahahahahahahaha I was wondering what the hell was up with that. Like what the fuck am I supposed to imagine I'm equipping, am I putting it in my pocket? am I firing it off at the enemy?

Poker_Star
Poker_Star

feeding blades for hours to raise affinity

now THIS is what i call gameplay, i wish there was a faster way to unlock these charts

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Dagas description says the following in JP:
キズナが最高の時、パーティ全体の与ダメージと攻撃範囲がX%アップする
Which means: When affinity is maxed, increases damage and range of all party members by X%

The translation basically omitted the "all party members" part, so in English, it looks like Dagas only affect his driver.

There are other fucked up description like Newt whose effect is quite different compared to English.

Thank goodness Dromarch was the only blade with the wrong location when it comes to a unique monster node.

The funniest thing is that those mistakes are present in other languages like French as far as I heard from France, so it is very likely that other language teams basically translated the game from the faulty English localization.

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

Thank goodness Dromarch was the only blade with the wrong location when it comes to a unique monster node.
Which?

Boy_vs_Girl
Boy_vs_Girl

Tell me the name of Theory's level 3 special please.

askme
askme

TIME FOR A ZEKE SPECIAL

Sharpcharm
Sharpcharm

yeah what, I guess I must have gotten it by accident, because I remember filling out his last ones and they were the right ones. not uniques either.
Ugh there's one unique that's a pain to get to so i'm waiting until both the blades that need to kill him are ready. it sucks those can't be "do it now and it'll unlock later when they reach the right tier"
also yeah it's standard practice to copy the english translation for everything, the assumption being ours had the most money and shit put into it

Lunatick
Lunatick

ophion is a fucking bitch what pouch items do I use to make this not cancer

CouchChiller
CouchChiller

Same ones you always use, cake and instruments

TechHater
TechHater

I never use pouch items but every other boss including tyrannotitan has been incredibly easy

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

Hmm, those paintings of each area that you see in some places, such as red room (over there), is that concept art reused as ingame paintings? I hope it is.

Illusionz
Illusionz

Dromarch node about Machine Gun Juno: for some reason, his node states the UM is located in Tantal, yet, Aegaeon who has a similar node properly indicate Juno's location to Cliffs of Morytha.

Thankfully, it is really the only rare blade with the wrong location for a UM.

シュヴェスターリベリオン
Schwester Rebellion

Oddly enough, while they tried to fix a bit the engrish in most specials, they didn't make major changes, so even stuff like "Prominence Revolt" were left untouched.

iluvmen
iluvmen

Trust requirements are too damn high for how few points everything gives you. Gotta mash that A button forever to get anywhere.

Methshot
Methshot

huh, Dondon implies that he's using an artificial blade, but it's clearly one of those indoline titan weapons that are just armored dagrons

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Schwester is german for sister
This needed to be translated

StrangeWizard
StrangeWizard

Doesn't Theory have an special called Rebel Sister or something

massdebater
massdebater

I think I might just create a localization faq pastebin since the normal and advanced faq are pretty much good to go.

I've initially played the game with jp dub, but as I'm playing my second playthrough with the JP ver, I'm more and more puzzled by the localization team decisions over time.

Thankfully, it isn't like they did grave mistakes or changes that literally screw a character (except maybe Tora in some occasions), but it really looks like the team wasn't consistent with their own lore choices.

takes2long
takes2long

It seems clear monolithsoft gets so much done by breaking up everything they do into parts, I have to imagine the localizers are similarly compartmentalized. They obviously decided early on for euro voices for regular folk and americans for blades

WebTool
WebTool

Zenobia's laugh when the enemy goes into enraged status
Nice.

Dreamworx
Dreamworx

That last Jin fight was harder than I expected. Disabling healing was unfun.

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

I guess that's the compromise they had to do if they wanted to deliver the localization on time for the worldwide release. So yeah, it isn't like they slacked or anything, far from it.

But then again, I'm not sure if any nintendo game will have a topnocht translation in the future considering how NoE and NoA are still obsessed with their family image and having a low age rating for their games.

In Japan, XB2 has a C rating (+15), but in europe, it is +12

Evilember
Evilember

have you tried paying attention to the game, retard?

farquit
farquit

EMPTY MOMENT
*aoe's u*
*cancels all ur healing*

Sir_Gallonhead
Sir_Gallonhead

Honestly, why can't Rex just settle down with a normal human? Why does it have to be Pyra? This blade human marriage seems more trouble than it's worth.

askme
askme

AoE
blocks healing
can do the full driver combo on you in one attack
I'm still trying to figure out how he got this power and no one new about it.

Nojokur
Nojokur

or just the moronic idea that certain things are only okay for certain ages. there's nothing wrong with the family image, it's just like, yknow.. fucking is how families happen. and violence is how you protect those families.
in any case this game clearly wasn't censored or wasn't very much, because for every thing that was softened, something else was hardened.
in japan this game is 15+
the fucking why. what happened to japan?

Stark_Naked
Stark_Naked

Finishing that quest post chapter 7
Casual

RumChicken
RumChicken

Jin's power is mainly his skills with his katana.
All the stuff about elementary particle (which is probably the reason why he can block heals like that) is thanks to his transformation into a flesh eater)

Evil_kitten
Evil_kitten

nice edit
who's to say they werent human at the end? what if all blades are mortal flesh and blood now?

lostmypassword
lostmypassword

you cant help when you pulled her
which is still pretty weird because there's nothing about either of those that should have that power let alone combined

BlogWobbles
BlogWobbles

I'm pretty sure the sexy stuff increased the rating a bit, but that didn't really affected NoJ.
a C rating for XB2 doesn't look too weird. I'm more surprised PEGI didn't blasted the game with a +16 because of the tits.

iluvmen
iluvmen

Well his original element is Ice, and he was the strongest Blade in Torna, so it makes sense.

Harmless_Venom
Harmless_Venom

I'm okay with him having an antagonist level nuttin poysonnel kid of power but how did becoming a flesh eater make him capable of both moving at the speed of light and controlling any and all particles? None of the other fleshies have that kind of power. At least that we've seen by trhe start of chapter 7. Furthermore, how did they actually write that he can move at lightspeed but siren's particle beam couldn't because its particles are "too heavy? That shit made me angry.

GoogleCat
GoogleCat

jin just doesn’t give a fuck

PackManBrainlure
PackManBrainlure

why did Amaltheus awaken Malos and not Mythra? Wouldn things have been different?
Klaus says that Malos also partook in the desicion to fucking nuke everything, so all of that wasn't just Amaltheus's influence

New_Cliche
New_Cliche

I mean, some particles are lightspeed, and some aren't, right? isn't that how particles work?

likme
likme

They wouldn't still have their core crystals.

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

Wouldn things have been different?
The impression I got is that evil's evil, so it really doesn't matter.

SniperGod
SniperGod

Mythra said Jin is Torna's strongest blade, and even Addam wanted to spar with him, so it was already hinted for a while that Jin has some serious skills when it comes to fight, even if he didn't like that.

As for the elementary particle control, the anti heal is hinted in chapter 7 when he negated Nia's healing as he literaly froze the water particles, thus effectively stopping the flow of water ether.

When Malos cursed the fact they don't have Judicium stuff to treat him properly, Jin specifically reminded him the benefits of flesh eater, so that's pretty obvious the lightspeed and heal nullification come from that (and also why Mythra didn't tell Rex about that in Chapter 6 since it was the first time she witnessed Jin in that edgelord form)

As for why Jin got that much power? He is probably only one crazy enough to eat the whole heart of his driver. Which explains the state of his core crystal: it is blood red, instead of blue tainted by stains of red.

As for the particle beam, I'm not specialist in that, but it doesn't really surprise me that a beam of energy would actually travel at a slightly slower speed than light considering the particles?

TechHater
TechHater

It seems that way. Unless his dragonbutt is some kinda magic telethia fusion or some whack shit it's just bonkers.
I'm a bio major, not physics. But as far as I know, no particle can actually be accelerated to lightspeed. Except photons but they're a special case because they are light.

Nude_Bikergirl
Nude_Bikergirl

He said he couldn't awake the other core. it is never explained why other than plot convenience

TechHater
TechHater

If Amalthus awakened Mythra, the same thing would have happened. Both Mythra and Malos were just data processing units. They had no subjective understanding. So whether he woke up Mythra or Malos, the result would have been the same.

BunnyJinx
BunnyJinx

So can Pyra just give Rex half of her core again and turn him into a blade eater?
At least they would have more time together.

Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

It is very likely that Aegis core require some sort of "compatibility" with the driver so the resonance would work, hence why Malos was certain Amalthus wouldn't have been able to resonate with Mythra's cose.

And yeah, it is very likely that Malos' core powers were mostly tailed for burteforce and destruction, so it was "naturally" a good match for Amalthus hidden hatred.
I personally think it is part of the balance of the trinity core: Logos is responsible for destroying stuff, so Pneuma can restruct things based on imagination, that can be computed by Ontos, which would explain why Alvis has such kind of powers (with also the fact he wasn't downgraded into a blade core)

likme
likme

We can actually consider that as just some whacky physics in a vidiya plot (remember that all stuff was basically made out of that special matter created by klaus, so we can give him the benefit of doubt regarding physic law bending particles in this case), but it also explain why Jin can't just perma teleport and attack at the same time, since he probably can't maintain such speed.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

It's just as illogical that they now have two
it's just reused assets
that said, am I crazy or didn't hikari have her X-missing core in a flashback once

Fried_Sushi
Fried_Sushi

Yeah so there you go. the targeting laser is a laser, so it is photons. (there are other things as fast as light too pretty sure, but theyre all photonesque in some way)

viagrandad
viagrandad

Which one? At least, in the training flashback with Addam, she definitely has her whole core.

5mileys
5mileys

That was his cover, but we saw in the flashback that in fact he willingly chose someone goodhearted to use the other one. he was still unsure at the time whether to be evil or not, unaware that his own evil is the main reason malos was eviling it up

Methshot
Methshot

Does rex even like mythra the way he likes pyra? They seem just like close friends to me.

Deadlyinx
Deadlyinx

I'm kinda confused about why Addam wanted to spar with him instead of just having the girl take out Malos with Jin's abilities. And why Haze's powers work on the aegis in the first place now that I think about that. And why all the damn Torna blades are apparently way stronger than any of the ones in the world currently, based on what I've seen so far.
No idea about the Judicium stuff and Jin eating his whole driver since I just hit the start of ch7 and haven't seen that yet.
doesn't really surprise me that a beam of energy would actually travel at a slightly slower speed than light considering the particles?
Right but Jin is obviously made of way heavier particles than any amount of light or laser which is why I'm angry that he can move at lightspeed but the laser can't. It doesn't make any kind of sense no matter how you look at it. He obviously has weight because he was stomping on Rex's face. There's no way for this to work.

TalkBomber
TalkBomber

If I remember correctly he literally says If I can't awaken this core, I'll find someone who can" in the flashback where malos leaves him. It is then implied that he searched all over until he found adamm, who could awaken mythra

Methnerd
Methnerd

As much as I love answering this, I'm also getting tired of repeating myself

Soft_member
Soft_member

You're overthinking it. In anime, people can move at the speed of light even thought it's physically impossible.

Soft_member
Soft_member

It doesn't fucking matter because we're never getting a direct sequel with the same characters. Even if another Xenoblade game is set in Alrest, it'll be so long after XB2 that everyone will be gone.

likme
likme

what's the best area song and why is it Uraya

viagrandad
viagrandad

Is there another element orb prioritizer core, or am I just screwed?

Playboyize
Playboyize

I'm just curious since v says he does but I don't feel that vibe at all.

Burnblaze
Burnblaze

wasnt downgraded
uhh he would have been had he remained in this dimension

ZeroReborn
ZeroReborn

Anime was a mistake, man. That kind of awful writing should never be a plot device.
youtube.com/watch?v=uPOIQ2HBzOI
Tantal is great around the block too.
There's a prioritize and an ender aux core.

Nojokur
Nojokur

fuck off

happy_sad
happy_sad

Remember that at that point in time, Jin is still a "regular blade". Probably a formidable warrior but still not exactly a beam spammer or anything that can deal with black hole-like energy spheres. Hopefully, we might have more exposition in the story DLC about the past.
I wouldn't be surprised if Jin had to deal with the horde of artifices with the other blades while Addam was busy with Mythra against Malos.

In the training cutscene, it is implied that Mythra could actually use her trumpcard (siren probably) even then, which means that Haze's powers affect the Aegis (since they are blades after all), but not to the point of being able to bind them completely. If Jin could withstood her power to a certain extent, a full powered Malos would probably be slightly slowed down, but not completely binded.

Next part is really a huge chunk from chap8-9, so don't read that unless you want to be spoiled
Regarding Torna's blades, it is very likely because of how they revered blades and titans, so they probably honed blades way more than any other nation. They put Blades on the same rank as humans, so it is also very likely the bond of the driver and blades were much better in Torna.
Also, remember that currently, Amalthus and Indol are shitting completely the blades in general, since they extract data from the cores. So except a selected few like Brighid, most blades are bunch of mob chars that have their EXP syphoned on frequent basis.

As for Jin being able to accelerate his own particles, well. Let's leave that to vidiya/anime physics I guess?

w8t4u
w8t4u

she was talking to someone.
i might have been confusing it for the present. i was confused that night.
it's more one-sided on hikari's end, but he's learning to see her as pyra's true self.
torna's the titan where blades go when they're ready. she has like, a coccoon-womb where they can get ready to turn into titans. naturally the best, strongest blades would begin gravitating there. and why wouldn't a power that works on blades work on the best ultimate 'Master' blade? as for your other concern, er, good point. but remember that technically all blades are 'newer technology' than any of the old artifices. They didn't have crazy superfast physics manipulation in the old universe because it was too big and heavy a universe

kizzmybutt
kizzmybutt

oh good point

idontknow
idontknow

No, like is there another element orb ender core other than the one in the chest?
Do any enemies drop them?

StonedTime
StonedTime

If he's a regular blade and she's a regular girl then how does he end up being more powerful than the aegises? The process of becoming a flesh eater must involve some kind of devil work to boost your strength that much.
That one I don't know about but probably.

w8t4u
w8t4u

Jin is never stronger than an Aegis.
Even when it's just Mythra, the big limitation they have is Rex's human body can't keep up with Jin. When Pneuma shows up, they have no problem keeping up, they also overpower him though that can just be a case of Jin being closer to death, but whatever.
Closer to death in anime just means stronger.
And we never see him go against Malos, but he'd definitely die the microsecond he gets close to Malos' annihilation field.

Carnalpleasure
Carnalpleasure

SACRED ARROW

haveahappyday
haveahappyday

The biggest surprise for me was that this wasn't a Weltal reference

Snarelure
Snarelure

I'm sure all 10 people who played Xenogears were also surprised

RavySnake
RavySnake

IS THIS THE REAL ME I'VE LONGED FOR
I WISH THAT WAS THE CASE

Methnerd
Methnerd

Thread's dying, let's spam xc2 battle lines. the more obscure the better.

NEWS FLASH: I'M STILL NUMBER 1!

SomethingNew
SomethingNew

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Fuzzy_Logic
Fuzzy_Logic

pyra's true self
Pyra is Pyra's true self. How can a completely different person be another person's true self?

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